PQs continued

December 22nd, 2009 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

just doesn’t learn and continues to misrepresent. He blogged today:

My post yesterday on John Key’s non-answer to some of my written parliamentary questions certainly got the Key apologists worked up. When Key does finally front up with the answers I’ll post the info here and people can then judge whether they were fair questions to ask.

The Key apologists seem to have forgotten that National MPs used to routinely ask tricky questions of the then Labour government. One of their favourites was to ask about staff Christmas parties and presents. Most government departments do some sort of end of year function for their staff, so National’s questions were basically intended to find examples of where they’d gone a bit over the top so that they could shout from the rooftops about “waste”.

This is a red herring. I have not once said the Opposition should not ask questions. It is an important right. But responsibilities go with rights. And you look like a whining wally when you file 4,000 questions in one day, and then complain they are not all answered within the five day target.

Incidentally I am told staff in the Office of the Clerk were forced to work until 11 pm to get all the 4,000 questions asked by Labour MPs onto the website. This would not have happened if they were organised or considerate enough to lodge them over a period of time.

Chris again fails to mention he and his colleagues have asked almost as many questions to the Minister of Ministerial Services in two weeks, than Helen Clark had over three years. And he commits further truth abuses.

Interestingly, they aren’t so keen to answer now that the shoe is on the other foot. I asked a written question of each Minister that’s almost identical to one Brownlee, McCully etc used to ask and they have all come back with the same answer: “The question the member asks relates to an operational matter which is the responsibility of the Chief Executive.”

Interesting to note that when Labour was the government and National was the opposition the questions were OK, but now that National is in government they seem to think a lower standard of accountability should apply.

Chris must think people are stupid and/or do not know how to do searches of the PQ database.

Searching the 2005-2008 Government for the phrase “responsibility of the Chief Executive” finds Ministers used it 745 times. So when Chris tries to lie that there is some “lower standard of accountability” he is being a prize hypocrite.

For those who like percentages, the 2005 to 2008 Labour Government used that response to 1.4% of questions. The National led Government has used it 162 times, which is 0.7% of questions. So Labour used that response twice as often as National.

But it gets worse when you look at the Prime Ministers. John Key has not used that response once, for the 739 questions he has had (all portfolios).

Helen Clark got asked only 569 questions over three years (around one quarter of the number asked of Key per annum) and used the phrase Chris Hipkins complains about on 25 occassions, which is 4.4% of the time.

At this point I must mention that before he became an MP, Chris Hipkins worked in Helen Clark’s office. He in fact probably wrote or approved the very answers that he is now complaining about.

How lucky we are not in , so people can use the H word.

Now again to keep it simple, here are the percentages for parties and PMs in using the “responsibility of the Chief Executive” dodge:

  1. Helen Clark 4.4%
  2. Labour 1.4%
  3. National 0.7%
  4. John Key 0.0%

I do so hope Chris carries on whining like this. It is such fun pointing out the facts.

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25 Responses to “PQs continued”

  1. Say Goodbye to Hollywood (562 comments) says:

    I would replace the phase “prize hypocrite” with “prize twat”. Ever wondered why Labour is so low in the polls Chris? Its stunts like this that just piss people off. The problem with idiots like you is you think you’re being smart when all the time people are just thinking what a complete fuckwit you really are. The day you idiots ever manage to get back into power will be a very dark day indeed. Merry Christmas dipshit.

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  2. XChequer (298 comments) says:

    Hipkins and Twyford should get together for a competition to see who can make the most dumb announcements!

    Too close to call on that one, Richie!

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  3. coventry (321 comments) says:

    If Chris & co keep this up, we won’t see another Labour PM until 2020. They are being prize wankers to make themselves look like bigger cocks than that guy over the shore, now what was his name ?

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  4. Minnie (98 comments) says:

    I understand there are a number of current first term Labour MP’s who served “apprenticeships” in PM Clark’s office. They’ve picked up a few skills!

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  5. Monty (978 comments) says:

    The one thing I have learnt about Labour MPs is that they very quickly accuse their enemy of their own worst sins. Clark accused Maori of being haters and wreckers when it was the Labour Party who were wreckers and Haters, she accused John Key of being untrustworthy – hell she was the biggest liar around.

    That clown Hipkins is a fool and carries on in the same vein. Here is yet another example – and some months back in question time (Which DPF blogged on) Hipkins ( http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/05/purchase_advisors.html). There are so many examples – the public grew very tired of Labour and their double standards and threw them out – The fools still fail to realise that they are generally despised and it will be a long time before they ever regain the Treasury benches as a result. Get used to that side of the house Trevor and Chris – you have a long penance to serve yet.

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  6. artemisia (242 comments) says:

    Gotta hand it to Mr Hipkins. He is singlehandedly creating jobs to mop up those redundant public servants.

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  7. kiwirights (48 comments) says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  8. tvb (4,432 comments) says:

    The whole point of these stupid questions is to try and set up the Prime Minister as someone who is dodging questions. Who really could be bothered responding to Hipkins anyway. And he continually refers to the Prime MInister as “Key”. I do not think the general public are going to warm to a silly little twerp called “Hipkins”.

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  9. dime (9,980 comments) says:

    BAHAHA this clown isnt even a hit on his own blog. what a snapperhead.

    he looks like the freak from mad magazine too.

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  10. Barnsley Bill (983 comments) says:

    Alfred E Hipkins

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  11. Inventory2 (10,342 comments) says:

    BB – hasn’t WhaleOil already annointed Phil Goff as the Alfred E Neumann of New Zealand?

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  12. Inventory2 (10,342 comments) says:

    This one seems to have slipped beneath the radar – Labour ends the year at 27.5%

    http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2009/4451/

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  13. Pete George (23,602 comments) says:

    Most of those poll results are within recent fluctuations, including the Green rise and the Maori fall. The only exception is Labour, dropping back, only once been lower, so not much to cheer about for them.

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  14. Inventory2 (10,342 comments) says:

    You’re right Pete. If ever there was a poll where Labour should have increased its share, it was this one. That Labour lost ground even against an unpopular ETS, Maori issues and Goff’s Nationhood speech does not bode well for them for 2010. I daresay that Phil Goff will be seeing shadows every time he hears the sizzling of a BBQ this summer.

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  15. KiwiGreg (3,255 comments) says:

    So do all these stats show Labour in opposition is working harder than National in opposition did?

    [DPF: PQs is as much about quality as quantity. And definitely about timing. They are a great source of info for media releases over the quiet month of January but Labour fucked up by leaving their ones to the last possible day, instead of preparing them in October and November]

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  16. Inventory2 (10,342 comments) says:

    KiwiGreg – I don’t believe so, and I have repled accordingly to Hipkins suggesting that over at his place with what follows:

    “So Chris, you admit that 5000 questions have been lodged in December – 21% of the annual total. That’s a deviation of around 250% to the average monthly output. Nor do you DENY that 4000 of these questions were lodged in one single day – around 16% of the annual total, and double the average monthly rate. It begs the question – what have you guys been doing for the rest of the year, and do you need Time Management training?”

    By all means; Hipkins should continue to fight this battle – he’s getting his butt kicked from pillar to post :-)

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  17. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    Does anyone want to mistake me for a “Key apologist”? As always when you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar you just produce a new smear label for those that busted you.

    Hipkins you’re a taxpayer money wasting buffoon.

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  18. tvb (4,432 comments) says:

    This political stunt of asking 4,000 questions on the eve of xmas (which could have been asked at any time in the last year) is a total waste of taxpayers’ money. I would be furious if any time is spent on this. This is yet another prime example of the Labour Party’s cpmplete, total and terminal disregard for public money.

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  19. kiwirights (48 comments) says:

    “Also one again if you try actually reading what I said and engaging both your brain cells, you would see that no one but you is saying John Key won’t reply. It doesn’t count when you invent things. The issue is when the replies will be done by.”

    Ha! We shall see… John Key is supposed to reply. Lets see if his reply says anything. I know where I am putting my money.

    And you are upset. Don’t deny it. You’re getting free cheap whacks at pretend targets and you know well you may end up regretting them. But by then the zombie army you command will have moved on to other pretend targets of yours. I used to think you were quite well balanced, but by paying more attention to this blog, all I see is that you are an increasingly-less-subtle apologist for your mates’ bad behaviour, and not a fair commentator.

    Actually we don’t know, do we, whether you are getting paid for it or not. I understand John Banks pays you, if Brian Rudman is correct. Are you paid at all by the National Party David?

    [DPF: Firstly Mr Troll you may have seen me criticise the appointment of Brian Rudman on this blog. But lets not divert this thread from Labour's abuse of the PQ system. I have no doubt that some of the responses will be unhelpful. This is what happens when you ask 4,000 in one day. The point I was making is that Hipkins lied when he claimed this was something unique to National - in fact as I showed their use of the "responsibility of the CE" response was one half the rate of Labour's.

    And finally Mr Troll I don't see the need to answer questions from a coward who won't post under his real name, but looks to smear me. I suggest you go read my detailed disclosure statement]

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  20. MikeNZ (3,234 comments) says:

    I wrote and posted to Hipkins and look forward to what he is going to get up to in the future as he is unrepentant when caught out deliberately lying. I suspect that unless he gets smarter he may fall from grace big time.

    I took him to task and ended with

    Chris if it was your intention to not provide all the info and to make Key look bad then you were deliberately creating a false impression.
    the short word for that is a lie.
    That you put it up on the web for everyone to see is reprehensible.
    Man up, apologise and put it right.
    MikeNZ

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  21. Inventory2 (10,342 comments) says:

    Someone touched a nerve, have they kiwirights? You seem VERY defensive :-)

    You’re not a dancer by any chance?

    http://whaleoil.gotcha.co.nz/2009/12/21/more-on-parliamentary-press-gallery-private-after-match-function/

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  22. kiwirights (48 comments) says:

    Invent-tory 2, not defensive, offensive :) In the fine tradition of this blog!

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  23. Blue Coast (165 comments) says:

    “Chris must think people are stupid and/or do not know how to do searches of the PQ database”

    NO we all know he is stupid no question at all on that front.

    Stupid little twat. Did he think tossing in 4000 questions would go unnoticed and then to alert everyone by whinging shows the level of his IQ

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  24. alex Masterley (1,517 comments) says:

    Forgive me for being obtuse but who is Chris Hipkins? I’ve been busy so haven’t had much time to lurk in the blogsphere.
    All the comments about him would seem to suggest that he is an eminent person, or some-one with a cv packed full of achievments.
    I know that we in auckland are from time to time accused of having our heads jammed up our arses but if he is an MP I have never heard of him.
    If he is a “..stupid little twat…” why is so much time being wasted on him?

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  25. david (2,557 comments) says:

    One thing is for sure alex, he is no relation of Jam Hipkins, poet, contributor-at-large to various periodical publications and keen observer of human nature and the political process.

    That Hipkins at least has a sense of humour!

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