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		<title>By: jackp</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638394</link>
		<dc:creator>jackp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have only one choice next election.. party vote Act. To bad the news isn&#039;t unbiased with Rodney by ripping another you know what. He&#039;s trying to save taxpayers billions and all the news wants to do is knock him down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only one choice next election.. party vote Act. To bad the news isn&#8217;t unbiased with Rodney by ripping another you know what. He&#8217;s trying to save taxpayers billions and all the news wants to do is knock him down.</p>
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		<title>By: KiwiGreg</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638300</link>
		<dc:creator>KiwiGreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^ Look at me I&#039;m now a computer nerd I can haz indents! :)</description>
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		<title>By: KiwiGreg</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638299</link>
		<dc:creator>KiwiGreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
“35. Zespri’s monopoly on the export of kiwifruit to markets outside Australia should be removed”

What? And let Turners &amp; Growers tear the pipfruit export industry apart? Have NZ pipfruit exporters forced to undercut each other till they break? Then coperate raider Turners &amp; Growers can pick up the ruins at fire sale prices? No thanks.
 &lt;/blockquote&gt;

What?  Allow growers to sell to whomever they wanted?  Force intermediaries to innovate and compete for markets?  It always astonishes me when (particularly the primary sector) suppliers think monopsonists are somehow good for them.</description>
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“35. Zespri’s monopoly on the export of kiwifruit to markets outside Australia should be removed”</p>
<p>What? And let Turners &amp; Growers tear the pipfruit export industry apart? Have NZ pipfruit exporters forced to undercut each other till they break? Then coperate raider Turners &amp; Growers can pick up the ruins at fire sale prices? No thanks.
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<p>What?  Allow growers to sell to whomever they wanted?  Force intermediaries to innovate and compete for markets?  It always astonishes me when (particularly the primary sector) suppliers think monopsonists are somehow good for them.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638296</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..The only party that’s ever had a plan is ACT, who took the trouble to The only party that’s ever had a plan is ACT, who took the trouble to cherry-pick the best-working policies from all round the world. If Brash’s policies looks similar, that’s why.

 Would we rather he drew inspiration from the basket-case countries?..&quot;

and..heh..!..number three..

&quot;..cherry-pick the best-working policies from all round the world..&quot;

here&#039;s a thought..!

why not cherry=pick the &#039;best&#039; working policies from those countries which self-evaluate as the &#039;happiest&#039; countries in the world..?

wouldn&#039;t that make some sense..?

but whaddaya know..!

those countries just happen to be those higher-taxing/higher social support/higher govt. spending as % of gdp..scandanavian countries..

y&#039;know..!..where there are no underclasses for scum to exploit/demean/persecute/scapegoat on..eh..?

oh..!..guess what..!..those countries also come with low levels of crime/social unrest/child poverty etc..

hey..ansell..!..didyahear how the decades of your &#039;wrong&#039; policies..(more on that later)..

have taken us to the top of the child poverty rates..?

we&#039;re number one..!..we&#039;re number one..!..noo zeeland..!

there&#039;s a lot there to be proud of..

now..back to the &#039;wrong&#039; policies..eh..?

you ansell..have obviously not yet seen the recant/mea culpa from allan greenspan..?

where he admits to a congressional inquiry..

that his life-long-held &#039;freemarker&#039;-beliefs..are..in his words..&#039;wrong&#039;..

and that those &#039;wrong&#039; policies.. are what caused the american/global economies to implode..

i really think you need to go and see that mea culpa ..eh..?

and why don&#039;t you take brash with you..?

eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..The only party that’s ever had a plan is ACT, who took the trouble to The only party that’s ever had a plan is ACT, who took the trouble to cherry-pick the best-working policies from all round the world. If Brash’s policies looks similar, that’s why.</p>
<p> Would we rather he drew inspiration from the basket-case countries?..&#8221;</p>
<p>and..heh..!..number three..</p>
<p>&#8220;..cherry-pick the best-working policies from all round the world..&#8221;</p>
<p>here&#8217;s a thought..!</p>
<p>why not cherry=pick the &#8216;best&#8217; working policies from those countries which self-evaluate as the &#8216;happiest&#8217; countries in the world..?</p>
<p>wouldn&#8217;t that make some sense..?</p>
<p>but whaddaya know..!</p>
<p>those countries just happen to be those higher-taxing/higher social support/higher govt. spending as % of gdp..scandanavian countries..</p>
<p>y&#8217;know..!..where there are no underclasses for scum to exploit/demean/persecute/scapegoat on..eh..?</p>
<p>oh..!..guess what..!..those countries also come with low levels of crime/social unrest/child poverty etc..</p>
<p>hey..ansell..!..didyahear how the decades of your &#8216;wrong&#8217; policies..(more on that later)..</p>
<p>have taken us to the top of the child poverty rates..?</p>
<p>we&#8217;re number one..!..we&#8217;re number one..!..noo zeeland..!</p>
<p>there&#8217;s a lot there to be proud of..</p>
<p>now..back to the &#8216;wrong&#8217; policies..eh..?</p>
<p>you ansell..have obviously not yet seen the recant/mea culpa from allan greenspan..?</p>
<p>where he admits to a congressional inquiry..</p>
<p>that his life-long-held &#8216;freemarker&#8217;-beliefs..are..in his words..&#8217;wrong&#8217;..</p>
<p>and that those &#8216;wrong&#8217; policies.. are what caused the american/global economies to implode..</p>
<p>i really think you need to go and see that mea culpa ..eh..?</p>
<p>and why don&#8217;t you take brash with you..?</p>
<p>eh..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard McGrath</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638295</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard McGrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, what do you think of Bill English&#039;s refusal to entertain the free market reforms outlined in the 2025 Taskforce report? And do you think Mr 21% will be a millstone around the Key Govt&#039;s neck in years to come?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, what do you think of Bill English&#8217;s refusal to entertain the free market reforms outlined in the 2025 Taskforce report? And do you think Mr 21% will be a millstone around the Key Govt&#8217;s neck in years to come?</p>
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		<title>By: Tauhei Notts</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638292</link>
		<dc:creator>Tauhei Notts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freedom101 at 9.53a.m.
Very good contribution.
Such a snap election would be a watershed in our lifetime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom101 at 9.53a.m.<br />
Very good contribution.<br />
Such a snap election would be a watershed in our lifetime.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638290</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..and phule will pop up to say mean things about SirRD...&quot;

heh..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..and phule will pop up to say mean things about SirRD&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>heh..!</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638289</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..What’s more, you are not completing screaming into the wind!!..&quot;

heh..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..What’s more, you are not completing screaming into the wind!!..&#8221;</p>
<p>heh..!</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: lastmanstanding</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638286</link>
		<dc:creator>lastmanstanding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Ansell  IMHO if NZ has a ETS and Oz doesnt it will just mean the gap widens more quickly and we join the ranks of the poor countries earlier.

Unless we have the structural changes recommended in the Brash Report there is no hope for us.

Our best and brightest young people will head off shore never to return and we will be left with the unemployed the unemployable and the aging baby boomers who will demand and get very costly health care and superannuation paid from ever increasing tax rates as the tax paying pool diminshes.

Key and English both know this as does Cullen et al  They dont care because it wont be their problem to solve.
They like almost all pollies are a selfish venal and feral bunch only looking to win the next election and retain the baubles of power.

They are intellectually lazy and too scared to take bold decisions in the best interests of the citizens.

They are the problem not the solution and until we can find some leaders with vision and principle we will continue to see our standard of living decline</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Ansell  IMHO if NZ has a ETS and Oz doesnt it will just mean the gap widens more quickly and we join the ranks of the poor countries earlier.</p>
<p>Unless we have the structural changes recommended in the Brash Report there is no hope for us.</p>
<p>Our best and brightest young people will head off shore never to return and we will be left with the unemployed the unemployable and the aging baby boomers who will demand and get very costly health care and superannuation paid from ever increasing tax rates as the tax paying pool diminshes.</p>
<p>Key and English both know this as does Cullen et al  They dont care because it wont be their problem to solve.<br />
They like almost all pollies are a selfish venal and feral bunch only looking to win the next election and retain the baubles of power.</p>
<p>They are intellectually lazy and too scared to take bold decisions in the best interests of the citizens.</p>
<p>They are the problem not the solution and until we can find some leaders with vision and principle we will continue to see our standard of living decline</p>
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		<title>By: lastmanstanding</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638282</link>
		<dc:creator>lastmanstanding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Owen I have just replaced the deck on my bach in Rodney  Cost of materials and labour $12000  Cost of structural engineer draughtsmen and Council fees $8500  And then the Council wanted me to have the front boundary i share with them resurveyed as the deck rail may have been 50mm   I repeat 50mm too close to their boundary I told them to FOXTROT OSCAR and they did.
This is right one small but important example of why we are slipping down the slope to 3rd world status. Dumbarse thinking by dumbarse pollies and civil servants straining at knats and swallowing camels</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owen I have just replaced the deck on my bach in Rodney  Cost of materials and labour $12000  Cost of structural engineer draughtsmen and Council fees $8500  And then the Council wanted me to have the front boundary i share with them resurveyed as the deck rail may have been 50mm   I repeat 50mm too close to their boundary I told them to FOXTROT OSCAR and they did.<br />
This is right one small but important example of why we are slipping down the slope to 3rd world status. Dumbarse thinking by dumbarse pollies and civil servants straining at knats and swallowing camels</p>
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		<title>By: Manolo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638279</link>
		<dc:creator>Manolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the detailed information, Owen.

It illustrates the pathetic performance of Nick Smith and his incompetence ind ealing with important matters.  How can a government leave ACC, ETS legislation, and RMA reform in the hands of a quasi-moron like Smith?

The spineless John Key has a lot to answer for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the detailed information, Owen.</p>
<p>It illustrates the pathetic performance of Nick Smith and his incompetence ind ealing with important matters.  How can a government leave ACC, ETS legislation, and RMA reform in the hands of a quasi-moron like Smith?</p>
<p>The spineless John Key has a lot to answer for.</p>
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		<title>By: freedom101</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638278</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>National promised to catch Australia by 2025 and then they made a whole lot of other promises which make it impossible for them to achieve the first promise.  I guess winning on election day is sweet, but then what do you do?  Well, you set up a whole of taskforces and hope they never report.  When they do, and they recommend the bleeding obvious, you duck for cover and say that you never actually intended to catch Australia and that it was merely &#039;aspirational&#039;.

Message to Key and English.  If you can&#039;t take the necessary decisions then call a snap election for a mandate to do so.  If you lose then the message will be clear that it&#039;s time to book that one way flight to Aussie, but at least the waiting and wondering will be over.

If you lose such an election then you too can head for Aussie and leave the Greens and Labour to fight it out in poverty.  But you will at least be able to sleep straight in your bed knowing you did your best.  Right now your efforts are plain embarrassing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National promised to catch Australia by 2025 and then they made a whole lot of other promises which make it impossible for them to achieve the first promise.  I guess winning on election day is sweet, but then what do you do?  Well, you set up a whole of taskforces and hope they never report.  When they do, and they recommend the bleeding obvious, you duck for cover and say that you never actually intended to catch Australia and that it was merely &#8216;aspirational&#8217;.</p>
<p>Message to Key and English.  If you can&#8217;t take the necessary decisions then call a snap election for a mandate to do so.  If you lose then the message will be clear that it&#8217;s time to book that one way flight to Aussie, but at least the waiting and wondering will be over.</p>
<p>If you lose such an election then you too can head for Aussie and leave the Greens and Labour to fight it out in poverty.  But you will at least be able to sleep straight in your bed knowing you did your best.  Right now your efforts are plain embarrassing.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ansell</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638229</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems the Australian Liberals are standing up on global warming. They may even fight an early election on the issue, which would force the media to accept big ads explaining all the facts.

And what do we think will happen to the Tasman wage gap if New Zealand has an ETS and Australia doesn&#039;t?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems the Australian Liberals are standing up on global warming. They may even fight an early election on the issue, which would force the media to accept big ads explaining all the facts.</p>
<p>And what do we think will happen to the Tasman wage gap if New Zealand has an ETS and Australia doesn&#8217;t?</p>
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		<title>By: Luc Hansen</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638228</link>
		<dc:creator>Luc Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Chris.

He makes a lot more sense when he is not in denial mode over rising sea levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Chris.</p>
<p>He makes a lot more sense when he is not in denial mode over rising sea levels.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Simpson</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638221</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Owen McShane. Just to let you know, some of us understand what you are trying to say! What&#039;s more, you are not completing screaming into the wind!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owen McShane. Just to let you know, some of us understand what you are trying to say! What&#8217;s more, you are not completing screaming into the wind!!</p>
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		<title>By: jackp</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638202</link>
		<dc:creator>jackp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doctors and Nurses carry most of the responsibility, dirty rat. . They also work hard. Harder than some administrator sitting at his desk patting himself on the back for doing nothing while his crony boss gives him a pay raise for showing no results other than spending his budget so he can get more the next year. I worked in a hospital while going to university. I saw the waste and I saw some of these doctors working night and day, coming in at midnight to see patients.  I lost a lot of respect for administrators, they always tried to control the doctors and nurses but the reason why the patient was at that hospital was because of the doctors and care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doctors and Nurses carry most of the responsibility, dirty rat. . They also work hard. Harder than some administrator sitting at his desk patting himself on the back for doing nothing while his crony boss gives him a pay raise for showing no results other than spending his budget so he can get more the next year. I worked in a hospital while going to university. I saw the waste and I saw some of these doctors working night and day, coming in at midnight to see patients.  I lost a lot of respect for administrators, they always tried to control the doctors and nurses but the reason why the patient was at that hospital was because of the doctors and care.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirty Rat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638199</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirty Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops posted before seeing Jackp&#039;s posr


Why are you in favour of giving the highest paid Government employees ( who also have their own medical practices anyway) MORE cash.

Doctors can go and get fucked, the blackmailing pricks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops posted before seeing Jackp&#8217;s posr</p>
<p>Why are you in favour of giving the highest paid Government employees ( who also have their own medical practices anyway) MORE cash.</p>
<p>Doctors can go and get fucked, the blackmailing pricks</p>
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		<title>By: Dirty Rat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638196</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirty Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don who ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don who ?</p>
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		<title>By: jackp</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_2025_taskforce_recommendations.html#comment-638167</link>
		<dc:creator>jackp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Queensfarmer, The argument labour would use about cutting social services could be turned around against them and made very simple to the average kiwi. Hire the front line as National promised and get rid of most of the middle management. Who likes management in the workforce? They aren&#039;t trusted. National could overcome Labour&#039;s objection easily and make them look desperate. Or, get rid of most of middle management and give doctors and nurses raises. I think that would be a winner. 
Or, how about this... when there are two administrators to one teacher, I am going to reverse that to one administrator to ten teachers. Is that cutting social services? No, it is making it more effecient and our children will get the instructions they need.  I could go on all day and you know what? It would all be true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Queensfarmer, The argument labour would use about cutting social services could be turned around against them and made very simple to the average kiwi. Hire the front line as National promised and get rid of most of the middle management. Who likes management in the workforce? They aren&#8217;t trusted. National could overcome Labour&#8217;s objection easily and make them look desperate. Or, get rid of most of middle management and give doctors and nurses raises. I think that would be a winner.<br />
Or, how about this&#8230; when there are two administrators to one teacher, I am going to reverse that to one administrator to ten teachers. Is that cutting social services? No, it is making it more effecient and our children will get the instructions they need.  I could go on all day and you know what? It would all be true.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen McShane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen McShane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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26. A high quality independent taskforce should be constituted as a matter of urgency to review resource management law from first principles, including identifying the policy goals that should be served by such legislation and assessing the best ways of achieving those goals.

I am unsure how much this differs from the RMA reviews underway.&quot;

The present reforms mean we are fiddling while Rome burns. Nick Smith has promised the EDS that he will make NO changes to part 2 of the Rma which means he is just fiddling with process. And the last round of reforms have been seized on by local bodies to actually make things worse at the local level.
Take note of his objection I have just made to a consent to divide a single lot into two.

&quot;5.	These Compliance Costs Add Up.
We live near the tiny town of Kaiwaka in Northland trying to create a section on which to build a house for our retirement.
Before Council will give us title we have to make the following payments:
•	a 5% reserve contribution estimate – 	say		$10,000. 
•	a roading development contribution – 		  $9,795. 
•	A double street crossing, estimate – 		         $35,000. 
•	consent fees of $2,500 (just gone up) 	           $2,500.
•	surveyors fee estimate				           $6,000.
•	challenge to consent conditions			     $600.
Total compliance costs 				         $63,895. 
SAY							    $64,000.
And we don’t have to pay our own consulting fees.
For most people who have to pay their consultants these compliance costs would be $70,000.
So this Kaiwaka lot has to carry $70,000 in compliance costs. 
That does not include the cost of the land.
These costs add nothing to the value of the property. Indeed the gross Panzer Division Street Crossing will undoubtedly devalue both properties.
The charge for challenging these consent conditions is particularly galling because these conditions are almost certainly the result of the failure to visit the site as claimed in the report.
And the condition requiring the massive crossing is wrong in law.
In Houston, Texas, a fringe section costs US$30,000 – in a city of over five million with the fastest economic growth and highest employment growth rate in the US. 
What are we doing to Kaiwaka?
And is this a taste of things to come?&quot;

Does that answer your question DPF?</description>
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26. A high quality independent taskforce should be constituted as a matter of urgency to review resource management law from first principles, including identifying the policy goals that should be served by such legislation and assessing the best ways of achieving those goals.</p>
<p>I am unsure how much this differs from the RMA reviews underway.&#8221;</p>
<p>The present reforms mean we are fiddling while Rome burns. Nick Smith has promised the EDS that he will make NO changes to part 2 of the Rma which means he is just fiddling with process. And the last round of reforms have been seized on by local bodies to actually make things worse at the local level.<br />
Take note of his objection I have just made to a consent to divide a single lot into two.</p>
<p>&#8220;5.	These Compliance Costs Add Up.<br />
We live near the tiny town of Kaiwaka in Northland trying to create a section on which to build a house for our retirement.<br />
Before Council will give us title we have to make the following payments:<br />
•	a 5% reserve contribution estimate – 	say		$10,000.<br />
•	a roading development contribution – 		  $9,795.<br />
•	A double street crossing, estimate – 		         $35,000.<br />
•	consent fees of $2,500 (just gone up) 	           $2,500.<br />
•	surveyors fee estimate				           $6,000.<br />
•	challenge to consent conditions			     $600.<br />
Total compliance costs 				         $63,895.<br />
SAY							    $64,000.<br />
And we don’t have to pay our own consulting fees.<br />
For most people who have to pay their consultants these compliance costs would be $70,000.<br />
So this Kaiwaka lot has to carry $70,000 in compliance costs.<br />
That does not include the cost of the land.<br />
These costs add nothing to the value of the property. Indeed the gross Panzer Division Street Crossing will undoubtedly devalue both properties.<br />
The charge for challenging these consent conditions is particularly galling because these conditions are almost certainly the result of the failure to visit the site as claimed in the report.<br />
And the condition requiring the massive crossing is wrong in law.<br />
In Houston, Texas, a fringe section costs US$30,000 – in a city of over five million with the fastest economic growth and highest employment growth rate in the US.<br />
What are we doing to Kaiwaka?<br />
And is this a taste of things to come?&#8221;</p>
<p>Does that answer your question DPF?</p>
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