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		<title>By: Pita</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644866</link>
		<dc:creator>Pita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manolo &quot;Economic suicide&quot; is another form of the bogey man designed to scare us into submission...one of the conditions that the China India Brazil bloc put forward was not to impose trade sanctions/tariffs against countries that didn&#039;t subscribe to any agreement or accord that arose out of the Copenhagen talkfest.

To suggest consumer backlash... is a red herring...a competitively priced commodity will always find its way onto the supermarket shelves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manolo &#8220;Economic suicide&#8221; is another form of the bogey man designed to scare us into submission&#8230;one of the conditions that the China India Brazil bloc put forward was not to impose trade sanctions/tariffs against countries that didn&#8217;t subscribe to any agreement or accord that arose out of the Copenhagen talkfest.</p>
<p>To suggest consumer backlash&#8230; is a red herring&#8230;a competitively priced commodity will always find its way onto the supermarket shelves.</p>
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		<title>By: Komata</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644844</link>
		<dc:creator>Komata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And ultimately a world to control!!

The socialists have had a set-back - give them time (with DL&#039;s expert assistance), they will return.  Perhaps the next attempt will be under a different guise, but never a different aim.  &#039;Ve vill haf kontrol auf die werlt&#039; (cue the German National Anthem with appropriate modifications . . .)

(Not sure though, how they are going to make peace with islam - the ultimate threat and a grouping that hates the west, but no doubt such things will be &#039;arranged&#039;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And ultimately a world to control!!</p>
<p>The socialists have had a set-back &#8211; give them time (with DL&#8217;s expert assistance), they will return.  Perhaps the next attempt will be under a different guise, but never a different aim.  &#8216;Ve vill haf kontrol auf die werlt&#8217; (cue the German National Anthem with appropriate modifications . . .)</p>
<p>(Not sure though, how they are going to make peace with islam &#8211; the ultimate threat and a grouping that hates the west, but no doubt such things will be &#8216;arranged&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Bird</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644841</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blockquote&gt; The real question is: for feathering his own nest or for the good of the country?  

Why does not someone ask him in Parliament if he has any interest in carbon trading directly or indirectly through a trust or some other mechanism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blockquote&gt; The real question is: for feathering his own nest or for the good of the country?  </p>
<p>Why does not someone ask him in Parliament if he has any interest in carbon trading directly or indirectly through a trust or some other mechanism.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644838</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why NZ has an ETS?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6852581/Copenhagen-climate-deal-London-faces-carbon-trading-challenge-from-New-York.html
Who gives a hoot about the science or the politics - there is money to be made!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why NZ has an ETS?<br />
<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6852581/Copenhagen-climate-deal-London-faces-carbon-trading-challenge-from-New-York.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6852581/Copenhagen-climate-deal-London-faces-carbon-trading-challenge-from-New-York.html</a><br />
Who gives a hoot about the science or the politics &#8211; there is money to be made!</p>
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		<title>By: backster</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644813</link>
		<dc:creator>backster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So only Switzerland and the EU besides NZ has a ETS system, so how come we had to have one to avoid being blackballed by all the world&#039;s trading Nations. Now to prove our Moral superiority should New Zealand ban trade with every nation that has no ETS system.

It was good to see Obamadinajad arriving home from Copenhagen on the Fox News last night to the heaviest snowfall ever recorded in Washington.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So only Switzerland and the EU besides NZ has a ETS system, so how come we had to have one to avoid being blackballed by all the world&#8217;s trading Nations. Now to prove our Moral superiority should New Zealand ban trade with every nation that has no ETS system.</p>
<p>It was good to see Obamadinajad arriving home from Copenhagen on the Fox News last night to the heaviest snowfall ever recorded in Washington.</p>
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		<title>By: Manolo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644810</link>
		<dc:creator>Manolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DPF, could you please tell us why the National government passed this ETS monstrosity?  

A few days ago, you said it would be &quot;economic suicide&quot; not to. Has your level of confidence decreased?  if not, why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DPF, could you please tell us why the National government passed this ETS monstrosity?  </p>
<p>A few days ago, you said it would be &#8220;economic suicide&#8221; not to. Has your level of confidence decreased?  if not, why not?</p>
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		<title>By: kowtow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644806</link>
		<dc:creator>kowtow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carbon trading is going to go the same way as all the other overhyped asset scams ,sorry schemes ,that have gone before it.The really frightening thing is that govts have learned absolutely nothing from even the most recent financial scam,ie the sub prime business. Tulips ,South Sea Bubble,tech boom, Enron etc. Some traders will make a fortune but the last ones in will crash and burn.It&#039;s just going to be a matter of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carbon trading is going to go the same way as all the other overhyped asset scams ,sorry schemes ,that have gone before it.The really frightening thing is that govts have learned absolutely nothing from even the most recent financial scam,ie the sub prime business. Tulips ,South Sea Bubble,tech boom, Enron etc. Some traders will make a fortune but the last ones in will crash and burn.It&#8217;s just going to be a matter of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Pita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine Key will also be keeping a close eye on Australia and what they do with their ETS, which (for them) is shaping up to be a key election issue...The outcome might just be the reality check that Key needs.

However, from a Government perspective, our ETS is wonderful tax grab opportunity that takes under the guise of saving the world... more like an investment really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine Key will also be keeping a close eye on Australia and what they do with their ETS, which (for them) is shaping up to be a key election issue&#8230;The outcome might just be the reality check that Key needs.</p>
<p>However, from a Government perspective, our ETS is wonderful tax grab opportunity that takes under the guise of saving the world&#8230; more like an investment really.</p>
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		<title>By: RightNow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644798</link>
		<dc:creator>RightNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod &quot;not just planning some leftist self-flagellating carbon tax scheme to hand our “guilt money” for driving cars to Chavez, Mugabe, Russia and co.&quot;

We&#039;re so lucky in NZ, we can hand our &#039;guilt money&#039; directly to Maori and have it stay in the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod &#8220;not just planning some leftist self-flagellating carbon tax scheme to hand our “guilt money” for driving cars to Chavez, Mugabe, Russia and co.&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re so lucky in NZ, we can hand our &#8216;guilt money&#8217; directly to Maori and have it stay in the country.</p>
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		<title>By: RightNow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644796</link>
		<dc:creator>RightNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod, I&#039;ve also wondered whether Key is more than just relaxed about AGW and the ETS. Given his background (i.e. as a trader) I think it is within the realms of possibility that he can see an opportunity for NZ to benefit economically from trading in carbon. With the market projected to be worth $2 trillion annually by 2020, it&#039;s conceivable he has something up his sleeve. The real question is: for feathering his own nest or for the good of the country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod, I&#8217;ve also wondered whether Key is more than just relaxed about AGW and the ETS. Given his background (i.e. as a trader) I think it is within the realms of possibility that he can see an opportunity for NZ to benefit economically from trading in carbon. With the market projected to be worth $2 trillion annually by 2020, it&#8217;s conceivable he has something up his sleeve. The real question is: for feathering his own nest or for the good of the country?</p>
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		<title>By: Fletch</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644795</link>
		<dc:creator>Fletch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The more the exposures come out each day the scarier this thing becomes. The list is getting too long to detail now, with puppet strings and tentacles leading all over the place&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Rod, I agree. I can&#039;t understand how anyone who has read the links posted on this board over the past few weeks can honestly still believe in AGW unless they are in favour of this one world govt thing.

I think sometimes people just like to have something to protest against because it makes them feel good; they want to be the hero saving the planet and they&#039;ll keep trying to be that hero long after the threat has been proved a hoax. It gives them a purpose. Very quixotic. 

Never underestimate the &#039;feel-good&#039; factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The more the exposures come out each day the scarier this thing becomes. The list is getting too long to detail now, with puppet strings and tentacles leading all over the place</p></blockquote>
<p>Rod, I agree. I can&#8217;t understand how anyone who has read the links posted on this board over the past few weeks can honestly still believe in AGW unless they are in favour of this one world govt thing.</p>
<p>I think sometimes people just like to have something to protest against because it makes them feel good; they want to be the hero saving the planet and they&#8217;ll keep trying to be that hero long after the threat has been proved a hoax. It gives them a purpose. Very quixotic. </p>
<p>Never underestimate the &#8216;feel-good&#8217; factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Elijah Lineberry</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644794</link>
		<dc:creator>Elijah Lineberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not mean to burst John Key&#039;s bubble.... but his contribution to Copenhagen was nil; no one knew he was there; no one cared he was there; no one spoke with him; no one wanted to; no one asked his opinion; no one would have had they known he was there which they didn&#039;t (etc)

He was an irrelevant non entity (which, come to think of it, is the usual state of affairs with John Key) in a farce designed for lazy loud mouthed Africans to receive further handouts from hardworking western folk.

He should have stayed home and gone to the beach.

www.nightcitytrader.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not mean to burst John Key&#8217;s bubble&#8230;. but his contribution to Copenhagen was nil; no one knew he was there; no one cared he was there; no one spoke with him; no one wanted to; no one asked his opinion; no one would have had they known he was there which they didn&#8217;t (etc)</p>
<p>He was an irrelevant non entity (which, come to think of it, is the usual state of affairs with John Key) in a farce designed for lazy loud mouthed Africans to receive further handouts from hardworking western folk.</p>
<p>He should have stayed home and gone to the beach.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nightcitytrader.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nightcitytrader.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: KevOB</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644793</link>
		<dc:creator>KevOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when did we become a vassal of the G20?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when did we become a vassal of the G20?</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644782</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more the exposures come out each day the scarier this thing becomes. The list is getting too long to detail now, with puppet strings and tentacles leading all over the place. The whole thing is now transparently a scam at the west&#039;s naive energy consumers&#039; expense. 
It is far from over - there are huge wealth transfers agreed at Copenhagen.
I cherish one hope ...
... that money man JK has seen how we can set up our ETS to follow the lead of China and India to transform the NZ economy through trading in obscure paper derivatives based on carbon. We don&#039;t need a big share of the world trade to make a vast difference here. If China and India can do so well out of it, why do we have to be on the losing end?
Let&#039;s hope he is onto it, and not just planning some leftist self-flagellating carbon tax scheme to hand our &quot;guilt money&quot; for driving cars to Chavez, Mugabe, Russia and co. for no material gain, justified by some fanciful concocted notions that we have the power to change the climate.
We don&#039;t need to be the guilt ridden victims of this scam - and now that the cat is out of the bag there are no votes in promoting that idea any longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more the exposures come out each day the scarier this thing becomes. The list is getting too long to detail now, with puppet strings and tentacles leading all over the place. The whole thing is now transparently a scam at the west&#8217;s naive energy consumers&#8217; expense.<br />
It is far from over &#8211; there are huge wealth transfers agreed at Copenhagen.<br />
I cherish one hope &#8230;<br />
&#8230; that money man JK has seen how we can set up our ETS to follow the lead of China and India to transform the NZ economy through trading in obscure paper derivatives based on carbon. We don&#8217;t need a big share of the world trade to make a vast difference here. If China and India can do so well out of it, why do we have to be on the losing end?<br />
Let&#8217;s hope he is onto it, and not just planning some leftist self-flagellating carbon tax scheme to hand our &#8220;guilt money&#8221; for driving cars to Chavez, Mugabe, Russia and co. for no material gain, justified by some fanciful concocted notions that we have the power to change the climate.<br />
We don&#8217;t need to be the guilt ridden victims of this scam &#8211; and now that the cat is out of the bag there are no votes in promoting that idea any longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644774</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kowtow
The whole system is bent it’s a UN contrivance to move money from so called rich nations to the poor countries. It has nothing to do with Global climate change at all, is just the front to achieve the goal and take the pressure of the UN for funding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kowtow<br />
The whole system is bent it’s a UN contrivance to move money from so called rich nations to the poor countries. It has nothing to do with Global climate change at all, is just the front to achieve the goal and take the pressure of the UN for funding.</p>
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		<title>By: davidp</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644770</link>
		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;“It’s progress, but there is a lot more to be done if we are going to achieve the outcome that we need,”

The &quot;science&quot; behind climate change has basically collapsed over the last couple of months. We&#039;ve found that the CRU and hangers on have adjusted data to fit with the predictions their computer models have generated in order to &quot;hide the decline&quot;. Evidence that fits the outcomes they want to achieve has been selected while similar evidence that doesn&#039;t is ignored. CRU and IPCC members have been found to have business interests in promoting carbon trading and other green schemes.

Future generations are going to use the IPCC climate change &quot;research&quot; as a text book example on how politics and religious belief can ruin proper scientific inquiry. Like Lysenkoism, or the &quot;science&quot; that the Vatican used to silence Galileo.

But still most politicians, including Key and Smith, act as if nothing has changed and that they still need to follow the policies promoted by the IPCC. Incredible!

They&#039;re like children who have been told that Santa Claus is actually their parents. But are still planning to leave some snacks for Santa and his reindeer on Christmas Eve.

(Apologies to any readers who hadn&#039;t heard about Santa. You would have found out the truth sooner or later, altho it is possible that Nick Smith is still a believer and planning a multi-billion dollar reindeer emissions trading scheme as we speak.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;“It’s progress, but there is a lot more to be done if we are going to achieve the outcome that we need,”</p>
<p>The &#8220;science&#8221; behind climate change has basically collapsed over the last couple of months. We&#8217;ve found that the CRU and hangers on have adjusted data to fit with the predictions their computer models have generated in order to &#8220;hide the decline&#8221;. Evidence that fits the outcomes they want to achieve has been selected while similar evidence that doesn&#8217;t is ignored. CRU and IPCC members have been found to have business interests in promoting carbon trading and other green schemes.</p>
<p>Future generations are going to use the IPCC climate change &#8220;research&#8221; as a text book example on how politics and religious belief can ruin proper scientific inquiry. Like Lysenkoism, or the &#8220;science&#8221; that the Vatican used to silence Galileo.</p>
<p>But still most politicians, including Key and Smith, act as if nothing has changed and that they still need to follow the policies promoted by the IPCC. Incredible!</p>
<p>They&#8217;re like children who have been told that Santa Claus is actually their parents. But are still planning to leave some snacks for Santa and his reindeer on Christmas Eve.</p>
<p>(Apologies to any readers who hadn&#8217;t heard about Santa. You would have found out the truth sooner or later, altho it is possible that Nick Smith is still a believer and planning a multi-billion dollar reindeer emissions trading scheme as we speak.)</p>
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		<title>By: Barnsley Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644768</link>
		<dc:creator>Barnsley Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, comparing the great climate swindle to the local chapter of ICANN is a stretch.
But not to worry, they can have another carbon intensive jolly in mexico in six months.
Meanwhile.... The lie gets bigger
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/12/19/lawrence-solomon-wikipedia-s-climate-doctor.aspx#ixzz0aApCEqRz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, comparing the great climate swindle to the local chapter of ICANN is a stretch.<br />
But not to worry, they can have another carbon intensive jolly in mexico in six months.<br />
Meanwhile&#8230;. The lie gets bigger<br />
<a href="http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/12/19/lawrence-solomon-wikipedia-s-climate-doctor.aspx#ixzz0aApCEqRz" rel="nofollow">http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/12/19/lawrence-solomon-wikipedia-s-climate-doctor.aspx#ixzz0aApCEqRz</a></p>
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		<title>By: MajorBloodnok</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644758</link>
		<dc:creator>MajorBloodnok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why did JK bother to go? And why do we have an ETS? Neither were/will be very effective, except at costing taxpayers for zero gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why did JK bother to go? And why do we have an ETS? Neither were/will be very effective, except at costing taxpayers for zero gain.</p>
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		<title>By: kowtow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644756</link>
		<dc:creator>kowtow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking of UN processes and lining pockets this item  from The Telegraph on IPCC Chairman Dr Rajendra Pachauri is priceless

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6847227/Questions-over-business-deals-of-UN-climate-change-guru-Dr-Rajendra-Pachauri.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking of UN processes and lining pockets this item  from The Telegraph on IPCC Chairman Dr Rajendra Pachauri is priceless</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6847227/Questions-over-business-deals-of-UN-climate-change-guru-Dr-Rajendra-Pachauri.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6847227/Questions-over-business-deals-of-UN-climate-change-guru-Dr-Rajendra-Pachauri.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: andrei</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/the_un_process.html#comment-644754</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah the EU has had it in operation for a while and it is doing its thing very well &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6798052/What-links-the-Copenhagen-conference-with-the-steelworks-closing-in-Redcar.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;costing jobs&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6847227/Questions-over-business-deals-of-UN-climate-change-guru-Dr-Rajendra-Pachauri.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;lining the pockets of the global elite&lt;/a&gt;. 

And do you know what &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRMgCufp5XQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mr J Key doesn&#039;t actually believe this Climate Change BS&lt;/a&gt; or didn&#039;t until he found out it could be used to divert money from the productive into the hands of the hands of the troughing class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah the EU has had it in operation for a while and it is doing its thing very well <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6798052/What-links-the-Copenhagen-conference-with-the-steelworks-closing-in-Redcar.html" rel="nofollow">costing jobs</a> and <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6847227/Questions-over-business-deals-of-UN-climate-change-guru-Dr-Rajendra-Pachauri.html" rel="nofollow">lining the pockets of the global elite</a>. </p>
<p>And do you know what <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRMgCufp5XQ" rel="nofollow">Mr J Key doesn&#8217;t actually believe this Climate Change BS</a> or didn&#8217;t until he found out it could be used to divert money from the productive into the hands of the hands of the troughing class.</p>
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