“The Church” is nothing more than a vehicle through which the living body of Christ occasionally expresses Himself amongst us, Viking2.

If you don’t feel Him close to you all the time, join the club. However, I have found over the years the more often you go, the closer you feel.

It’s not rocket science.

“If I was David Farrar I would give him 100 demerits for trolling and lying.”

If you were Mr Farrar this place would be deserted.

kris, I don’t think that there’s any evidence supporting your suggestion that people who are into casual sex at 18-24 are more likely to suicide, or be criminals etc. What you see as one form of bad morals (in this case sex between consenting adults) doesn’t necessarily predispose these people to other amoral acts or crime.

It doesn’t say if any of the 25% were married or not. You are only guessing by saying none were, but that may not matter much anyway.

Interesting that 80% were in exclusive partner relationships, only 20% shagging around.

Here’s the bottom line. For Marxism to achieve the political supremacy its followers wish it to, there are three cornerstones of traditional society that have to be destroyed. One is the church, two is the patriarchal family unit and three is the traditional morals and values advocated by those two former entities.

Pete George, (Mr Feelings) as a committed Marxist knows that well. If I was David Farrar I would give him 100 demerits for trolling and lying.

Read (re-read) my 4:04 pm comment and then get back to me.
It addresses that fact that the entire 1300 that took part in the survey were likely ALL in casual sexual relationships, while NONE were likely in committed marriage relationships. This is a NON survey dressed up to tackle the issues – which it doesn’t.

All good Catholics they were. Ha.

Without the teaching of biblical values, and/or good morals holding individuals in check…..

Self control is TAUGHT

That sounds like manipulation.

The survey proposed that there weren’t mental health issues. But their overall emotional status was no different than the four-fifths who said they were in committed relationships with their most recent sexual partner.

I think things have swung too far to freedom to do as you please without considering consequences. But how I feel about it is irrelevant, it is possible that different social practices are no worse than those I am familiar with, and the survey suggests that.

Society has removed any restraint that may have existed in the past, Pete, and we wonder why STIs, Aids, youth suicide, youth violence, youth crime, etc. are through the roof. Without the teaching of biblical values, and/or good morals holding individuals in check, and then studies like these, and those that write them encouraging (especially) kids to ‘if it feels good, do it’, then why are we surprised when that is exactly what they do?

Self control is TAUGHT, Pete, and if we don’t teach it then we end up with anarchy. This is what we observe in the sexual attitudes and practices of those that took part in this survey. And there will be mental health issues for them as a consequence.
Is this the sort of society you want to live in?
It’s not my idea of ‘happy camping’.

It’s a basic urge, and it’s fun. You don’t need to be told that.

Who is manipulating them? How are they being manipulated? Aren’t they doing as they please? Acting on basic sexual urges and freedom of choice?

We all know you’re not that naive, Pete.

Commies like you.

“How are they being manipulated?”

By Gramascian means.

As you well know you duplicitous poseur.

(When are you going to quit the innocent act?? It don’t wash loser.)

Kris, sometimes casual sex can be a mistake, sometimes not, depends on the circumstances, I’m not one of those “know what’s best for everyone else” socialist people.

Fuckwit, you’re just a fucked-up anti-social autocratic retard, with no life of his own who has to go around telling other people how to live their lives just so you can feel there’s some point to your own sad life. When I fire on you you moron, I’m not firing on my own ranks. Given the chance of having real power over others, I’ve no doubt you’d be just another fuck-up like Mugabe.

The wonder of it is, few of the students ever seem to realise how profoundly they’ve been manipulated.

?? Who is manipulating them? How are they being manipulated? Aren’t they doing as they please? Acting on basic sexual urges and freedom of choice?

You poor simple brained fuckwit. How unsurprising that such a superficial and completely devoid of wisdom comment would come from you.

” From where do you draw that conclusion Andrew? ”

From deep down in the depths of his 75 IQ.

It looks like half the commenters above think that sex is dirty, but for people in the age group mentioned it’s part of learning to be an adult, and learning about forming and developing relationships with the type of people from whom they’ll be looking to select a life partner.

Since when is ‘having (casual) sex’ part of “learning to be an adult” ?
All the above survey, and the liberal elite, encourages young people to do is have ‘no consequence’ sex. Of course, there are consequences, but such surveys hide it, and pretends to give balance to the debate.

And as Reid (4:17 pm) mentioned, the youth are being “profoundly manipulated”, and even if they do work it out for themselves, ‘sex is fun’, and it suits me to ignore the consequences so I can keep on ‘having fun’.

It’s only years later when they will actually realise that they were spun a lie, and that there are in fact consequences to their actions.