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Owners of the Auckland’s 443,200 homes would have to give the Treasury an extra $443 million if they were subject to a 0.5 per cent levy.
Superannuitants living in the wealthiest eastern and northern suburbs of Auckland and others on low incomes would be particularly affected as they would not necessarily benefit from the proposed tradeoff of lower income tax.
Remuera households could be paying $6500 each and those on the North Shore $1300-$4000 a year. Financier Mark Hotchin of Hanover could be paying almost $100,000 a year for his three-section block in Paritai Drive, Orakei, and Prime Minister John Key would be up for much the same on his slice of St Stephens Ave in Parnell.
Southlanders, living on New Zealand’s lowest-price housing land, would be paying just $30 a year for the average section.
Now I can see Bill voting for this, average cost to a Southlander for their tax $30.00 but I reckon “Hone” John Key will be a bit out out. Can’t imagine that his neighbours and the neighbours of all the existing and new Nat. MP’s being impressed with having to donate to the National Welfare Charity something around 3-4000 a year.
Lynn Fiebig stole $590,029 from the IHC. Looks like this money helped her set up the Ahuru Lodge (“king-sized beds with 1000-threadcount Egyptian cotton sheets, goosedown pillows and a New Zealand cedar sauna room”).
Absolutely disgusting! They’re bailing her to a luxury lodge she built with the money she stole!!!
Her son Alexander, and her partner Richard Chittock were also involved. I hope they get sentenced too! There’s too many families (e.g Harris’s in Christchurch) who benefit substantially from the crimes of family members, we need judges to enforce sentences on people abetting these assholes.
Owners of the Auckland’s 443,200 homes would have to give the Treasury an extra $443 million if they were subject to a 0.5 per cent levy.
Someone else scaremongering by highlighting one possible tax change without considering a total package.
And comparing extreme cases. I’d expect that Auckland incomes (and current income tax levels), especially of those living in Remuera, will be greater than those living in Southland, especially those living on the types of properties used as a comparison.
I had a day drinking and chatting in bars in Auckland yesterday.
I am getting the impression that an increasing number of New Zealanders are beginning to learn just how dreadful that Clark regime actually was. This makes Phil Goff’s job even more difficult.
Teachers Council director Peter Lind said a school’s board was allowed to apply to the Ministry of Education to suspend a teacher on full pay until a court case ended.
I fully accept that person is innocent until proven guilty. However, I have often seen teachers and police suspended on full pay for lengthy periods while charged with serious crimes.
I wonder if this applied in private industry. For example someone working in day care or the security industry.
If the person is found innocent I have no problem with them being paid. However, if they are found guilty should they not have to repay what they got paid while under suspension? At the very least this pay they have not earned could come off any superannuation of holiday pay they may have accumulated.
MT TINMAN
I posted yesterday in the Abbot virginity thread
MikeNZ (984) Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
I commented that Dr Greer and Family Planning and the MOE do teens a diservice (which I think is unprofessional) by not informing them that condoms don’t protect for many std’s.
I know this will out me as a reader of Red Alert but the way they censor people for absolutely no reason is pretty pathetic. At least we can keep all those nasty people together on one blog. Tiger Trev and Clare are blocking like its going out of fashion and Grant is just a smug little twat. I hope that the Labour Party spends many years out of power.
Viking2
Thanks for that link to democracymum, very thoughtful and it poses a good question about our biased wobbly media as well as Shonkey.
Wasn’t this precisely the sort of lobbying that got the Brethern and Don Brash into so much hot water? And yet the media appear to have glossed over this “request” from the Ratana leader completely. Would they have been so silent if the Catholic church had made a similar request? I think not.
She ends with
And so I continue to wonder about the silence and hypocrisy of the media in covering this annual spectacle, and the selectivity of those who choose to attend.
Chuck
Good point.
Yes if they get off then no repay but if convicted full repayment.
I would hope that in that time the NZPolcie would have profiled their cell phones and internet and also those who are most involved in their lives/lifestyle too.
These people rarely act alone and maybe one thing our media could do is profile the offenders, their lifestyles and friends so we can see the “others” involved in their lives.
Will he get 10yrs or more?
Doubt it.
Is he curable?
Doubt it.
Blair gave a typically smooth performance at the iraq Inquiry. Fascinating comments from the Guardian on what happened. Which was a surprise to most.
Verdict from the Court of Public Opinion:
It was ‘im what dun it!
Yes, NuLabour are really going to struggle once voters get into the privacy of the polling booth. With FPTP we can expect a similar surge to the one that National enjoyed.
O/T, can you imagine what life must be like in the UN with the gruesome twosome running roughshod over all that oppose. imagine what being in their top team must be like if you dissent at all.
re the girl offering her virginity to the highest bidder .. an arse squeeze could cost Robin Brooke $100,000 for each so based on that, go for a Million.
re Winston .. is he still alive??
re reading RednotsoAlert .. I do as well, I just stopped writing comments as they only want patsy replies and they won’t get them from me until they make major changes in policy (hell .. issue some policy) and personal.
now happy news. After seeing the dog massacre up north by the banjo boys, it was great to see the Polish ship saving the dog caught on the ice flow and offering it a home.
it was a silly attempt at a joke tristand. Nothing funny about what he did at all .. we have had this debate here before with many opinions .. the guy is an arse (joke) but $200,000??
anyway, good lick to the girl, maybe she will be the Greens next MP
Fox News is Americans’ most trusted source of news: That’s what Public Policy Polling reported earlier this week. Now a second poll has reached a similar conclusion.
This gives rise to a couple of questions-
Where do the left extreme left wingers who write here almost daily denigrating FOX news get their information from? Obviously their views are not based on objective and scientific information.
Given that FOX has been identified by University studies as the most balanced broadcaster, and given that it is now the most trusted broadcaster, why do the left hate it so much and feel the need to constantly attack and denigrate it??
I’ll tell you. The answer to question one is that leftists habitually avail themselves of a very narrow band of information sources. In New Zealand, that more or less means TV One, TV3 The Herald or The Dominion. All of these sources are really not balanced outlets like FOX. They’re basically just left wing propaganda organisations.
Consequently, leftists or even centrists who use the outlets as their only information sources are not going to know the real truth about anything. Their information is always going to be adulterated by the compulsory left wing slant.
The answer to the second question is that leftists, either knowingly or unknowingly, always fear truth. FOX has to be silenced because it brings reality and does not feed the innate delusions and prejudices that leftists always hold.
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In a poll commissioned by National Review Institute [PDF], McLaughlin & Associates found that Fox News was the top response from likely voters who were asked what source of news about politics and government they most trusted. Thirty-six percent of respondents picked Fox News, compared to 20 percent who picked CNN and 6 percent who picked MSNBC. NBC and ABC each got 6 percent, too, and CBS 5.
Anne Tolley has made a grievous error. She’s actually trying to do something (about NZ’s abymally performing inwardly collapsing education system) . And treading on the toes of sundry leftist ideologues while she does so.
So naturally, Anne becomes a target of NZ’s left wing media, with attacks on Mrs Tolley coming from both Audrey Young and Fran O’Sullivan in today’s Socialists Inc propaganda journal the NZ Herald (laughingly referred to by some as a newspaper).
Let’s hope Key shows some damn spine for once and stands up for Mrs Tolley. It will surprise me if he does.
Like most in National, he appears unable to make the distinction between the opinions of hard working man in the street style NZers and those of elitist Progressive media attack dogs.
This load of emotive garbage is what the Herald terms “journalism”???
If journalism had not been brought to its nadir anyway by means of its ugly perversion to a propaganda force for Progressivism, this article would be an utter stinking disgrace.
according to my ex teacher workmate, married to a school principal, Tolley didn’t consult enough .. I guess teachers are not used to politicians making decisions quickly after 9 very long years of talk. This is the “problem” with the so called Super City. All people want is talk talk talk .. Mayor Robbie would love Rodney’s action man attitude.
Simon and family are very lucky it isn’t the early 80′s .. I would swap my NO BENEFITS from the taxpayer to their huge handout.
I bet they can’t wait for the LAQC changes.
Mr Notts –
right minded people have long realised how repulsive Clark and her mob were – - but for 8 of the nine years they had the benches I could never get anyone other than my mother to admit that they had voted for them.
So that either meant that (1) there was a lot of embarassed people out there with no courage or
(2) the elections had been rigged – now even though Clark was a lying dishonest bitch she did not have the juice to rig the vote, so that means there was an awful lot out there who lied about who they voted for…….
Now it is all coming home to roost they will be looking to blame National, because that is what we are very good at in New Zealand, —looking for someone to blame for our mistakes.
Jon Stewart on the daily show let go a few f’s in his weekly roundup .. Looks like Obama is in trouble with both the Republicans, no surprise, but also a few of his own.
Don’t forget the MSM need “issues” to peddle to the public to show they’re doing their job,of being able to place themselves and their “liberal” agenda as challenging the “right wingers”,”of speaking truth to power”,of being relevant.In many ways this row between the Teachers and the Govt is tailor made for the tossers to do all of the above.You can picture them chomping at the bit over the holidays ,waiting to “get stuck in”.
It also appears to be personalised to Tolley, I’ll bet they’re hoping for a scalp on this one.No balance ,just their own agenda dressed up as the important protectors of liberty.
Fox News is Americans’ most trusted source of news: That’s what Public Policy Polling reported earlier this week. Now a second poll has reached a similar conclusion.
And if you really want to know what’s going on in the Middle East and Israel, you can’t go past the likes of Fox News and the Jerusalem Post. I still recall watching Fox in the wee hours during Israel’s foray against Hamas in Gaza in an effort to protect her citizens. Excellent coverage.
At the time you were lucky to get a biased sound bite in our liberal MSM. And usually they just chanelled the BBC – one of the most corrupt (non) news organisations I know of.
Just ‘cos I’m in the mood for a Biblical debate today… Kris K, you mentioned in yesterday’s debate that because I was not filled with the Holy Spirit and had been to Bible College, my ‘relationship with God’ is somehow lesser than children who attend your Sunday School class. You say because I lack this Holy Spirit which gives understanding, I am unable to comprehend the mysteries of the Bible.
Would you be able to please clarify the questions I have about it for me then?
Let’s take the New Testament.
Putting aside our translations, lets go back to the original language – Greek – and look at those texts.
The NT is written in a different language than what Jesus and the disciples spoke. Jesus didn’t speak Greek. Even in the original texts where it says: “Jesus said this”, there are already translational artifacts. It is impossible to translate 100% from one language to another by definition.
We don’t even have those original transcripts either. We don’t have the copies made from them either. We also don’t have the copies made from the copies. What we have is copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies.
And this presents a bit of a problem because every copy has slight differences from one another. It might be a letter or a word. Don’t forget that before spell checkers, and even before the printing press, spelling and written language were not universal.
And how many of these errors are there? To put it in comparative terms there are more differences in all the NT transcripts than there are letters in the entire NT.
So here is the problem. When we refer to Holy Scripture, what are we referring to? Scholars have done a good job of trying to piece together the transcripts and do their best to work out what the originals most likely said, and they’ve done a good job. Sometimes they aren’t sure though, and only some of those times do they put it in the footnotes.
I guess you could say you believe the Holy Spirit guides your understanding of the Scriptures. But if one transcript says one thing and another says something different, then what does God want it to say?
If the NT itself is not 100% accurate, how can you be sure that your understanding of God is?
Anna, I’ve read every word of the Bible – cover to cover – six times – it takes just over 3 years. I used to read a chapter a day and did that for twenty years. Since then I’ve concentrated on themes.
I used to meet regularly with a person who’d memorised the entire Bible. It was amazing, we’d be talking about a theme and he’d say take a look at say, John 6:9 and Luke 3:12 and compare it with Isaiah 7:8 then he’d quote all those verses (I just made those quotes up, but you get the picture).
My point is, my attitude after all of this exploration (which I might add will continue until I die), is that the Bible is just a book. Faith lives and breathes in us and it’s the work we do in the world in our relationships with everyone we meet that makes faith meaningful.
If a Christian tells you that you need to operate in accordance with every letter of every word, they’re technically correct, but IMO it’s in the sense that an academic is right when they try to tell you how to run a business. There are opportunities and obstacles that one meets in the real world that obviate the academics advice and require you to step outside the narrow confines of “the book.”
The Bible is the best operating manual for life that we have. You’re right, it’s been obscured over the ages by human and spiritual mis-interpretation sometimes benign and sometimes malicious so what, precisely, should we believe?
Perhaps that was what Kris was saying: that the Holy Spirit is G-d’s gift to us, to help us to discern right from wrong, when operating in the real world, when we don’t have immediate access to the manual.
Viking2, you’re a very astute person, I’m puzzled why it is that you don’t wish to discuss the most important subject ever?
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Just as “holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost” in the originals, so too did God use “holy men of God” moved by the Holy Spirit to ensure the Bible was accurately translated into English. I believe the KJV is God’s perfect word for us in English today.
Psa 18:30 As for God, his way is perfect: the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him.
God’s way is perfect, as is His word. His word has been tried (tested) and is not found lacking because of God’s hand upon it – He literally preserves it.
Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Even though heaven and earth shall pass away (prior to the new heaven and earth), God’s word will remain because it is eternal – God promises to preserve it.
Psa 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
God has magnified His word even above His very name[s]. So He holds it as extremely important. It is His truth, after all.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Only someone ‘in Christ’, who possesses the Holy Spirit, can discern the things of God – paramount in this sense is His word; for this is how we primarily know of God, of sin, of His offer of salvation.
Bottom line, Anna:
I trust God, rather than so called modernday scholars, to keep His word. After all, I have entrusted my eternity to Him on the basis that His word is perfect, complete, and accurate.
Not so blessed is Blair. Yes, Saddam was a monster. But he wasn’t an immediate threat to the world beyond Iraq, and not likely to be. So Blair is being dishonest saying they had to deal with him, they chose to deal with him behind a barrage of bullshit.
I can’t prove it, but I reckon the likelihood that there were in fact WMDs in Iraq at the time is pretty high.
Remember the weapons inspectors didn’t have free reign, and many areas (religious buildings, etc) were off limits.
Ever heard of Muslims storing weapon caches inside mosques, Pete?
I think Bush and Blair were right on the money. I bet some Mossad operative or Israeli intelligence has the REAL low down – perhaps one day we’ll know the truth.
The IPCC crook in chief was keeping mum knowing full well the data was bogus.
I do trust DPF’s pivotal NBR article elucidated the situation and suggested NZ repels the ETS monstrosity. Hold on, I just saw a pig flying past my window.
The bible was written to be read with the Holy Spirit, though it’s contents are God breathed and the words and concepts have life in them so you may be guided towards God in Yeshua if that is your heart’s wish.
This Holy Spirit you mention is a gift from Jesus/Yeshua for NT believers onwards and will give witness to Him and His words as well as give you strength against the world and it’s people as well as those in the spirit world arrayed against you.
You cannot have the holy Spirit without Jesus/Yeshua.
He the Spirit is a gentleman as He is Jesus’s ( the one who was born of a virgin, died on the cross and rose again on the 3rd day and is seated at the right hand of the Father) Spirit.
If you don’t want Him or choose to live a life of carnality then he will recede from you until you come right (after all He is the Spirit of God and Holy).
I hope this helps though I suspect you already know all this anyway so your acid is your problem with God and until you sort that out the Spirit won’t be as near as you need.
“I can’t prove it, but I reckon the likelihood that there were in fact WMDs in Iraq at the time is pretty high.”
Kris, suggest you get “In the Eye of the Storm” by George Tenet out of the library.
Tenet was CIA Director before and after 911 and he deals directly with the evidence surrounding the two most critical questions re: the Iraq invasion.
Firstly, did Saddam have any WMD’s and secondly, was there any connection between Saddam and Al-Qaida?
His conclusion re: the first is that yes, there was, but it was wrong. His conclusion re: the second was that the politicians made it up by knowingly and with malice aforesight cherry-picking the evidence to suit their own ends.
You’ll recall Powell’s UN presso when he talked about the mobile chem-weapons labs? Total bullshit. Powell was sucked into giving that by the WH. He believed it himself at the time, but the WH made it up. I don’t know but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was why he refused to serve a second term under Bush 43. He was about the only one in the entire Bush Administration with any sense of principle whatsoever.
Fact is, both Bush and Blair led their respective countries into the biggest foreign policy disaster since Vietnam based on a bunch of lies. Perhaps you could argue that Bush was so stupid that he has diminished responsibility for the real culprits were the neo-cons who were doing it in order to eliminate one of Israel’s two most significant regional threats (the other being Iran) and they pulled the wool over the idiot’s eyes – something not that hard to do. You could not however say the same re: Blair. Incidentally, the fact the neo-cons did that Israeli favour using US blood and treasure makes it traitorous.
All of those politicians and advisors deserve not just prison but execution because of the degree of blood that’s been shed as a result of their lies esp with respect to the Iraqi civilian casualties.
Unfortunately, I predict that no guilty party will be held fully accountable until they meet their maker. Blair will get out of this enquiry with a damaged reputation but that’s it.
That Tenet book is not the only element with evidence that supports my position, but it’s a goodie. Some say that because Tenet was a Democrat you can’t trust what he says because he’s biased. To me, that’s mind-bogglingly stupid. When someone is responsible enough to obtain a position like he held, they’re most unlikely to make up a fairy-tale in their biography simply to make a political point, unless they are a politician, which he wasn’t.
January 30th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Working for Families tax trap
This is not just on WFF, it has a look at various aspects and anomalies of tax and benefits, plus possible reform options.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Land tax – what it could mean for you
By Anne Gibson
4:00 AM Saturday Jan 30, 201
Owners of the Auckland’s 443,200 homes would have to give the Treasury an extra $443 million if they were subject to a 0.5 per cent levy.
Superannuitants living in the wealthiest eastern and northern suburbs of Auckland and others on low incomes would be particularly affected as they would not necessarily benefit from the proposed tradeoff of lower income tax.
Remuera households could be paying $6500 each and those on the North Shore $1300-$4000 a year. Financier Mark Hotchin of Hanover could be paying almost $100,000 a year for his three-section block in Paritai Drive, Orakei, and Prime Minister John Key would be up for much the same on his slice of St Stephens Ave in Parnell.
Southlanders, living on New Zealand’s lowest-price housing land, would be paying just $30 a year for the average section.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10623183
Now I can see Bill voting for this, average cost to a Southlander for their tax $30.00 but I reckon “Hone” John Key will be a bit out out. Can’t imagine that his neighbours and the neighbours of all the existing and new Nat. MP’s being impressed with having to donate to the National Welfare Charity something around 3-4000 a year.
Oh Yeh, About “Hone’ John Key did you all see the post at Democasymum? http://www.democracymum.co.nz/
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 11:24 am
I see a 19yo Waikato woman is auctioning her “virginity”.
Until now I thought Firepower was the biggest Australasian fraud of all time.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Yep and Lisa is going to stand for Hamilton City Council. What fun to be had.
http://gotcha.co.nz/
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Viking2 – we’ve come up with an even better suggestion – Lewis vs Laws
http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2010/01/vote-for-lisa.html
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Another judge being “tough on crime”…
Lynn Fiebig stole $590,029 from the IHC. Looks like this money helped her set up the Ahuru Lodge (“king-sized beds with 1000-threadcount Egyptian cotton sheets, goosedown pillows and a New Zealand cedar sauna room”).
Fiebig has been bailed to live at the lodge until sentencing in March.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3277435/Plush-bail-for-IHC-swindler
Absolutely disgusting! They’re bailing her to a luxury lodge she built with the money she stole!!!
Her son Alexander, and her partner Richard Chittock were also involved. I hope they get sentenced too! There’s too many families (e.g Harris’s in Christchurch) who benefit substantially from the crimes of family members, we need judges to enforce sentences on people abetting these assholes.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Someone else scaremongering by highlighting one possible tax change without considering a total package.
And comparing extreme cases. I’d expect that Auckland incomes (and current income tax levels), especially of those living in Remuera, will be greater than those living in Southland, especially those living on the types of properties used as a comparison.
An example of appalling “journalism”.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 11:46 am
I had a day drinking and chatting in bars in Auckland yesterday.
Vote:I am getting the impression that an increasing number of New Zealanders are beginning to learn just how dreadful that Clark regime actually was. This makes Phil Goff’s job even more difficult.
January 30th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
North Shore primary school teacher accused of paying boys for sex
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10623180
The article states
I fully accept that person is innocent until proven guilty. However, I have often seen teachers and police suspended on full pay for lengthy periods while charged with serious crimes.
I wonder if this applied in private industry. For example someone working in day care or the security industry.
If the person is found innocent I have no problem with them being paid. However, if they are found guilty should they not have to repay what they got paid while under suspension? At the very least this pay they have not earned could come off any superannuation of holiday pay they may have accumulated.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
MT TINMAN
I posted yesterday in the Abbot virginity thread
MikeNZ (984) Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
I commented that Dr Greer and Family Planning and the MOE do teens a diservice (which I think is unprofessional) by not informing them that condoms don’t protect for many std’s.
Do you think they also don’t tell women that they are 40% more at risk of cancer if they have used OC’s and have an abortion?
Vote:http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/175394.php
http://breastcancer.about.com/b/2010/01/08/abortion-birth-control-pills.htm
http://www.fhcrc.org/about/pubs/center_news/online/2009/05/Oral_contraceptives_and_breast_cancer.html
January 30th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Winston shows no sign of slowing down judging by his speech on MMP yesterday
http://www.democracymum.co.nz/2010/01/winston-peters-speech.html
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I know this will out me as a reader of Red Alert but the way they censor people for absolutely no reason is pretty pathetic. At least we can keep all those nasty people together on one blog. Tiger Trev and Clare are blocking like its going out of fashion and Grant is just a smug little twat. I hope that the Labour Party spends many years out of power.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
OT, but I feel the need to offer DPF consolations: one of his pollsters surveyed Fran O’Sullivan. Truly awful luck.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Viking2
Thanks for that link to democracymum, very thoughtful and it poses a good question about our biased wobbly media as well as Shonkey.
Wasn’t this precisely the sort of lobbying that got the Brethern and Don Brash into so much hot water? And yet the media appear to have glossed over this “request” from the Ratana leader completely. Would they have been so silent if the Catholic church had made a similar request? I think not.
She ends with
And so I continue to wonder about the silence and hypocrisy of the media in covering this annual spectacle, and the selectivity of those who choose to attend.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Chuck
Good point.
Yes if they get off then no repay but if convicted full repayment.
I would hope that in that time the NZPolcie would have profiled their cell phones and internet and also those who are most involved in their lives/lifestyle too.
These people rarely act alone and maybe one thing our media could do is profile the offenders, their lifestyles and friends so we can see the “others” involved in their lives.
Will he get 10yrs or more?
Vote:Doubt it.
Is he curable?
Doubt it.
January 30th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Blair gave a typically smooth performance at the iraq Inquiry. Fascinating comments from the Guardian on what happened. Which was a surprise to most.
Verdict from the Court of Public Opinion:
It was ‘im what dun it!
Yes, NuLabour are really going to struggle once voters get into the privacy of the polling booth. With FPTP we can expect a similar surge to the one that National enjoyed.
O/T, can you imagine what life must be like in the UN with the gruesome twosome running roughshod over all that oppose. imagine what being in their top team must be like if you dissent at all.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Hehe
Vote:Imagine our courts dishing it out to our wayward teens like this.
Not allowed cell phones in girls schools?
Our kids would shit a brick if they were cut off from their phones.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1244689/Saudi-girl-13–sentenced-90-lashes-took-mobile-phone-school.html#ixzz0dvUDdTrr
January 30th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
re the girl offering her virginity to the highest bidder .. an arse squeeze could cost Robin Brooke $100,000 for each so based on that, go for a Million.
re Winston .. is he still alive??
re reading RednotsoAlert .. I do as well, I just stopped writing comments as they only want patsy replies and they won’t get them from me until they make major changes in policy (hell .. issue some policy) and personal.
now happy news. After seeing the dog massacre up north by the banjo boys, it was great to see the Polish ship saving the dog caught on the ice flow and offering it a home.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
jaba, Brooke’s arse squeeze was a 15 year old girl, against her consent.
The auction is for consensual sex.
If you think they’re the same, you have something missing in your head.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
it was a silly attempt at a joke tristand. Nothing funny about what he did at all .. we have had this debate here before with many opinions .. the guy is an arse (joke) but $200,000??
Vote:anyway, good lick to the girl, maybe she will be the Greens next MP
January 30th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Fox News is Americans’ most trusted source of news: That’s what Public Policy Polling reported earlier this week. Now a second poll has reached a similar conclusion.
This gives rise to a couple of questions-
Where do the left extreme left wingers who write here almost daily denigrating FOX news get their information from? Obviously their views are not based on objective and scientific information.
Given that FOX has been identified by University studies as the most balanced broadcaster, and given that it is now the most trusted broadcaster, why do the left hate it so much and feel the need to constantly attack and denigrate it??
I’ll tell you. The answer to question one is that leftists habitually avail themselves of a very narrow band of information sources. In New Zealand, that more or less means TV One, TV3 The Herald or The Dominion. All of these sources are really not balanced outlets like FOX. They’re basically just left wing propaganda organisations.
Consequently, leftists or even centrists who use the outlets as their only information sources are not going to know the real truth about anything. Their information is always going to be adulterated by the compulsory left wing slant.
The answer to the second question is that leftists, either knowingly or unknowingly, always fear truth. FOX has to be silenced because it brings reality and does not feed the innate delusions and prejudices that leftists always hold.
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In a poll commissioned by National Review Institute [PDF], McLaughlin & Associates found that Fox News was the top response from likely voters who were asked what source of news about politics and government they most trusted. Thirty-six percent of respondents picked Fox News, compared to 20 percent who picked CNN and 6 percent who picked MSNBC. NBC and ABC each got 6 percent, too, and CBS 5.
http://article.nationalreview.com/423279/trusting-fox/ramesh-ponnuru
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Anne Tolley has made a grievous error. She’s actually trying to do something (about NZ’s abymally performing inwardly collapsing education system) . And treading on the toes of sundry leftist ideologues while she does so.
So naturally, Anne becomes a target of NZ’s left wing media, with attacks on Mrs Tolley coming from both Audrey Young and Fran O’Sullivan in today’s Socialists Inc propaganda journal the NZ Herald (laughingly referred to by some as a newspaper).
Let’s hope Key shows some damn spine for once and stands up for Mrs Tolley. It will surprise me if he does.
Like most in National, he appears unable to make the distinction between the opinions of hard working man in the street style NZers and those of elitist Progressive media attack dogs.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Who the hell is Simon Collins?
See-
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10623166
This load of emotive garbage is what the Herald terms “journalism”???
If journalism had not been brought to its nadir anyway by means of its ugly perversion to a propaganda force for Progressivism, this article would be an utter stinking disgrace.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
according to my ex teacher workmate, married to a school principal, Tolley didn’t consult enough .. I guess teachers are not used to politicians making decisions quickly after 9 very long years of talk. This is the “problem” with the so called Super City. All people want is talk talk talk .. Mayor Robbie would love Rodney’s action man attitude.
Vote:Simon and family are very lucky it isn’t the early 80′s .. I would swap my NO BENEFITS from the taxpayer to their huge handout.
I bet they can’t wait for the LAQC changes.
January 30th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Mr Notts –
right minded people have long realised how repulsive Clark and her mob were – - but for 8 of the nine years they had the benches I could never get anyone other than my mother to admit that they had voted for them.
So that either meant that (1) there was a lot of embarassed people out there with no courage or
(2) the elections had been rigged – now even though Clark was a lying dishonest bitch she did not have the juice to rig the vote, so that means there was an awful lot out there who lied about who they voted for…….
Now it is all coming home to roost they will be looking to blame National, because that is what we are very good at in New Zealand, —looking for someone to blame for our mistakes.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Jon Stewart on the daily show let go a few f’s in his weekly roundup .. Looks like Obama is in trouble with both the Republicans, no surprise, but also a few of his own.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Don’t forget the MSM need “issues” to peddle to the public to show they’re doing their job,of being able to place themselves and their “liberal” agenda as challenging the “right wingers”,”of speaking truth to power”,of being relevant.In many ways this row between the Teachers and the Govt is tailor made for the tossers to do all of the above.You can picture them chomping at the bit over the holidays ,waiting to “get stuck in”.
It also appears to be personalised to Tolley, I’ll bet they’re hoping for a scalp on this one.No balance ,just their own agenda dressed up as the important protectors of liberty.
Go Minister!
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Redbaiter 1:13 pm,
And if you really want to know what’s going on in the Middle East and Israel, you can’t go past the likes of Fox News and the Jerusalem Post. I still recall watching Fox in the wee hours during Israel’s foray against Hamas in Gaza in an effort to protect her citizens. Excellent coverage.
At the time you were lucky to get a biased sound bite in our liberal MSM. And usually they just chanelled the BBC – one of the most corrupt (non) news organisations I know of.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Just ‘cos I’m in the mood for a Biblical debate today… Kris K, you mentioned in yesterday’s debate that because I was not filled with the Holy Spirit and had been to Bible College, my ‘relationship with God’ is somehow lesser than children who attend your Sunday School class. You say because I lack this Holy Spirit which gives understanding, I am unable to comprehend the mysteries of the Bible.
Would you be able to please clarify the questions I have about it for me then?
Let’s take the New Testament.
Putting aside our translations, lets go back to the original language – Greek – and look at those texts.
The NT is written in a different language than what Jesus and the disciples spoke. Jesus didn’t speak Greek. Even in the original texts where it says: “Jesus said this”, there are already translational artifacts. It is impossible to translate 100% from one language to another by definition.
We don’t even have those original transcripts either. We don’t have the copies made from them either. We also don’t have the copies made from the copies. What we have is copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies.
And this presents a bit of a problem because every copy has slight differences from one another. It might be a letter or a word. Don’t forget that before spell checkers, and even before the printing press, spelling and written language were not universal.
And how many of these errors are there? To put it in comparative terms there are more differences in all the NT transcripts than there are letters in the entire NT.
So here is the problem. When we refer to Holy Scripture, what are we referring to? Scholars have done a good job of trying to piece together the transcripts and do their best to work out what the originals most likely said, and they’ve done a good job. Sometimes they aren’t sure though, and only some of those times do they put it in the footnotes.
I guess you could say you believe the Holy Spirit guides your understanding of the Scriptures. But if one transcript says one thing and another says something different, then what does God want it to say?
If the NT itself is not 100% accurate, how can you be sure that your understanding of God is?
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Oh bugger, the God botherer’s are back. Go find a chat room.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Anna, I’ve read every word of the Bible – cover to cover – six times – it takes just over 3 years. I used to read a chapter a day and did that for twenty years. Since then I’ve concentrated on themes.
I used to meet regularly with a person who’d memorised the entire Bible. It was amazing, we’d be talking about a theme and he’d say take a look at say, John 6:9 and Luke 3:12 and compare it with Isaiah 7:8 then he’d quote all those verses (I just made those quotes up, but you get the picture).
My point is, my attitude after all of this exploration (which I might add will continue until I die), is that the Bible is just a book. Faith lives and breathes in us and it’s the work we do in the world in our relationships with everyone we meet that makes faith meaningful.
If a Christian tells you that you need to operate in accordance with every letter of every word, they’re technically correct, but IMO it’s in the sense that an academic is right when they try to tell you how to run a business. There are opportunities and obstacles that one meets in the real world that obviate the academics advice and require you to step outside the narrow confines of “the book.”
The Bible is the best operating manual for life that we have. You’re right, it’s been obscured over the ages by human and spiritual mis-interpretation sometimes benign and sometimes malicious so what, precisely, should we believe?
Perhaps that was what Kris was saying: that the Holy Spirit is G-d’s gift to us, to help us to discern right from wrong, when operating in the real world, when we don’t have immediate access to the manual.
Viking2, you’re a very astute person, I’m puzzled why it is that you don’t wish to discuss the most important subject ever?
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Anna Sewell 3:53 pm,
Just as “holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost” in the originals, so too did God use “holy men of God” moved by the Holy Spirit to ensure the Bible was accurately translated into English. I believe the KJV is God’s perfect word for us in English today.
God’s way is perfect, as is His word. His word has been tried (tested) and is not found lacking because of God’s hand upon it – He literally preserves it.
Even though heaven and earth shall pass away (prior to the new heaven and earth), God’s word will remain because it is eternal – God promises to preserve it.
God has magnified His word even above His very name[s]. So He holds it as extremely important. It is His truth, after all.
Only someone ‘in Christ’, who possesses the Holy Spirit, can discern the things of God – paramount in this sense is His word; for this is how we primarily know of God, of sin, of His offer of salvation.
Bottom line, Anna:
I trust God, rather than so called modernday scholars, to keep His word. After all, I have entrusted my eternity to Him on the basis that His word is perfect, complete, and accurate.
Your issue is with God, not me.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Reid 5:08 pm,
What a blessing to have the ability to recall all or any of God’s word.
“The Bible is the best operating manual for life that we have.”
Vote:Some might say it is the ONLY one we have.
January 30th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
“What a blessing to have the ability to recall all or any of God’s word.”
Indeed, Kris.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Not so blessed is Blair. Yes, Saddam was a monster. But he wasn’t an immediate threat to the world beyond Iraq, and not likely to be. So Blair is being dishonest saying they had to deal with him, they chose to deal with him behind a barrage of bullshit.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Except the Dhammapada, of course.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Pete George 6:17 pm,
I can’t prove it, but I reckon the likelihood that there were in fact WMDs in Iraq at the time is pretty high.
Remember the weapons inspectors didn’t have free reign, and many areas (religious buildings, etc) were off limits.
Ever heard of Muslims storing weapon caches inside mosques, Pete?
Vote:I think Bush and Blair were right on the money. I bet some Mossad operative or Israeli intelligence has the REAL low down – perhaps one day we’ll know the truth.
January 30th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Ryan Sproull 6:33 pm,
Each to their own, Ryan
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Parents and commonsense do for many people. Now, and before the bible when people also managed to survive.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/29/climate-chief-knew-false-glacier-claims-copenhagen/
The IPCC crook in chief was keeping mum knowing full well the data was bogus.
I do trust DPF’s pivotal NBR article elucidated the situation and suggested NZ repels the ETS monstrosity. Hold on, I just saw a pig flying past my window.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
the wmd were moved to Syria according to internet I read at the time.
Vote:http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/saddams-wmd-moved-to-syria-an-israeli-says/24480/
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/3/2/230625.shtml
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2005/12/iraqs_wmd_moved_to_syria.html
http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=67;t=002083;p=1
January 30th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Anna Sewell
The bible was written to be read with the Holy Spirit, though it’s contents are God breathed and the words and concepts have life in them so you may be guided towards God in Yeshua if that is your heart’s wish.
This Holy Spirit you mention is a gift from Jesus/Yeshua for NT believers onwards and will give witness to Him and His words as well as give you strength against the world and it’s people as well as those in the spirit world arrayed against you.
You cannot have the holy Spirit without Jesus/Yeshua.
He the Spirit is a gentleman as He is Jesus’s ( the one who was born of a virgin, died on the cross and rose again on the 3rd day and is seated at the right hand of the Father) Spirit.
If you don’t want Him or choose to live a life of carnality then he will recede from you until you come right (after all He is the Spirit of God and Holy).
I hope this helps though I suspect you already know all this anyway so your acid is your problem with God and until you sort that out the Spirit won’t be as near as you need.
Vote:January 30th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Shock headline tomorrowJ
John Key praises Red Ruler
Vote:January 31st, 2010 at 10:37 am
“I can’t prove it, but I reckon the likelihood that there were in fact WMDs in Iraq at the time is pretty high.”
Kris, suggest you get “In the Eye of the Storm” by George Tenet out of the library.
Tenet was CIA Director before and after 911 and he deals directly with the evidence surrounding the two most critical questions re: the Iraq invasion.
Firstly, did Saddam have any WMD’s and secondly, was there any connection between Saddam and Al-Qaida?
His conclusion re: the first is that yes, there was, but it was wrong. His conclusion re: the second was that the politicians made it up by knowingly and with malice aforesight cherry-picking the evidence to suit their own ends.
You’ll recall Powell’s UN presso when he talked about the mobile chem-weapons labs? Total bullshit. Powell was sucked into giving that by the WH. He believed it himself at the time, but the WH made it up. I don’t know but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was why he refused to serve a second term under Bush 43. He was about the only one in the entire Bush Administration with any sense of principle whatsoever.
Fact is, both Bush and Blair led their respective countries into the biggest foreign policy disaster since Vietnam based on a bunch of lies. Perhaps you could argue that Bush was so stupid that he has diminished responsibility for the real culprits were the neo-cons who were doing it in order to eliminate one of Israel’s two most significant regional threats (the other being Iran) and they pulled the wool over the idiot’s eyes – something not that hard to do. You could not however say the same re: Blair. Incidentally, the fact the neo-cons did that Israeli favour using US blood and treasure makes it traitorous.
All of those politicians and advisors deserve not just prison but execution because of the degree of blood that’s been shed as a result of their lies esp with respect to the Iraqi civilian casualties.
Unfortunately, I predict that no guilty party will be held fully accountable until they meet their maker. Blair will get out of this enquiry with a damaged reputation but that’s it.
That Tenet book is not the only element with evidence that supports my position, but it’s a goodie. Some say that because Tenet was a Democrat you can’t trust what he says because he’s biased. To me, that’s mind-bogglingly stupid. When someone is responsible enough to obtain a position like he held, they’re most unlikely to make up a fairy-tale in their biography simply to make a political point, unless they are a politician, which he wasn’t.
Vote:January 31st, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Reid [January 31st, 2010 at 10:37 am]
Cheers, Reid – I’ll see if it’s available.
MikeNZ [January 30th, 2010 at 8:10 pm],
Thanks for the links, Mike – haven’t gone through them yet, but will do.
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