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	<title>Comments on: Hypocrisy and lies on state sector CEO salaries</title>
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		<title>By: ALS</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/hypocrisy_and_lies_on_state_sector_ceo_salaries.html#comment-655791</link>
		<dc:creator>ALS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David you make a very good point about government debt:
&quot;seek to reintroduce Gordon Brown’s “golden rule” – to keep Government borrowing below 40 percent of national economic output – wish Labour would tell us their debt target – seems to be the higher the better&quot;

While that relates to the UK, it is also relevant here, and we do hear little about what&#039;s happening with government debt. Does anyone know what it was at the time of the last  election here, what it is now, and whether our current government has a similar policy to link the upper bound of borrowing to national economic output?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David you make a very good point about government debt:<br />
&#8220;seek to reintroduce Gordon Brown’s “golden rule” – to keep Government borrowing below 40 percent of national economic output – wish Labour would tell us their debt target – seems to be the higher the better&#8221;</p>
<p>While that relates to the UK, it is also relevant here, and we do hear little about what&#8217;s happening with government debt. Does anyone know what it was at the time of the last  election here, what it is now, and whether our current government has a similar policy to link the upper bound of borrowing to national economic output?</p>
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		<title>By: Bevan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bevan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Maori, or other non-white depravities warrant racial condemnation of course.

But not white over-representation in crimes of sexual perversity and paedophilia.
&lt;/i&gt;

I guess you missed his posts on Clayton Weatherston then....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Maori, or other non-white depravities warrant racial condemnation of course.</p>
<p>But not white over-representation in crimes of sexual perversity and paedophilia.<br />
</i></p>
<p>I guess you missed his posts on Clayton Weatherston then&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Countess</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/hypocrisy_and_lies_on_state_sector_ceo_salaries.html#comment-655756</link>
		<dc:creator>Countess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Berend says the Netherlands has a semi official salary cap for the public service the Blakenende norm ( after the  current PM)

http://www.typically.nl/176/the-balkenende-income-cap/

Its currently EU160,000</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Berend says the Netherlands has a semi official salary cap for the public service the Blakenende norm ( after the  current PM)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.typically.nl/176/the-balkenende-income-cap/" rel="nofollow">http://www.typically.nl/176/the-balkenende-income-cap/</a></p>
<p>Its currently EU160,000</p>
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		<title>By: kowtow</title>
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		<dc:creator>kowtow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mjennings@346

This poster clearly has a problem with DPF but he should be careful about making wild claims about race ,crime, sex and the South Island.

A case that comes straight to mind is the poor Scottish woman who was killed in I think  Rotorua by a  fellow who was only 14 or 15 at the time and as I recall he&quot;s what some folk would call a tangata fenua.</description>
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<p>This poster clearly has a problem with DPF but he should be careful about making wild claims about race ,crime, sex and the South Island.</p>
<p>A case that comes straight to mind is the poor Scottish woman who was killed in I think  Rotorua by a  fellow who was only 14 or 15 at the time and as I recall he&#8221;s what some folk would call a tangata fenua.</p>
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		<title>By: Countess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Countess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Farrar snow job, with red herrings, strawmen and ad hominens thrown in. 

So you add a BIG list of Cameron ideas- big deal . hes not saying he supports any others  just the excessive salaries.

But thats to cover up where Cameron  had a similar &#039;policy&#039;  . You cant just so hes right can you!

And there is just a few in Camerons sights . Surprise surprise there is a &#039; few&#039; in Goffs sights too. Some say its only 14!.

Hoist. Petard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Farrar snow job, with red herrings, strawmen and ad hominens thrown in. </p>
<p>So you add a BIG list of Cameron ideas- big deal . hes not saying he supports any others  just the excessive salaries.</p>
<p>But thats to cover up where Cameron  had a similar &#8216;policy&#8217;  . You cant just so hes right can you!</p>
<p>And there is just a few in Camerons sights . Surprise surprise there is a &#8216; few&#8217; in Goffs sights too. Some say its only 14!.</p>
<p>Hoist. Petard.</p>
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		<title>By: mjennings</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjennings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder why the most sick, perverse, crimes seem to be committed by whites (noticeably South Island whites):

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10622979&amp;pnum=2

Of course Mr Farrar will have no interest in drawing attention to this most vomit inducing criminal case (linked) in a long time.

Maori, or other non-white depravities warrant racial condemnation of course.

But not white over-representation in crimes of sexual perversity and paedophilia.

&lt;b&gt;I challenge Mr Farrar to create a blog on the House of Horrors killer – surely more deserving of condemnation than even this sick animal abuser who fed kittens to his pitbull.&lt;/b&gt;

I doubt if he will though – because in this case the perpetrator is white.

[DPF: 10 demerits for off topic]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why the most sick, perverse, crimes seem to be committed by whites (noticeably South Island whites):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&#038;objectid=10622979&#038;pnum=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&#038;objectid=10622979&#038;pnum=2</a></p>
<p>Of course Mr Farrar will have no interest in drawing attention to this most vomit inducing criminal case (linked) in a long time.</p>
<p>Maori, or other non-white depravities warrant racial condemnation of course.</p>
<p>But not white over-representation in crimes of sexual perversity and paedophilia.</p>
<p><b>I challenge Mr Farrar to create a blog on the House of Horrors killer – surely more deserving of condemnation than even this sick animal abuser who fed kittens to his pitbull.</b></p>
<p>I doubt if he will though – because in this case the perpetrator is white.</p>
<p>[DPF: 10 demerits for off topic]</p>
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		<title>By: berend</title>
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		<dc:creator>berend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DPF, this salary cap is semi-enforced in The Netherlands. Too lazy to lookup the details but the term is &quot;Balkenende norm&quot; and I believe it is that you can&#039;t earn more than the PM (Balkenende).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DPF, this salary cap is semi-enforced in The Netherlands. Too lazy to lookup the details but the term is &#8220;Balkenende norm&#8221; and I believe it is that you can&#8217;t earn more than the PM (Balkenende).</p>
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		<title>By: lastmanstanding</title>
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		<dc:creator>lastmanstanding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to see how governments operate go to yesterdays Timesonline. The Labour government has set up a quango costing STG9million a year with 40 staff The chairman gets STG185,000 a year. But is cant operate because the government hasnt yet set the legal parameters around its operations It isnolved in Infrastructure Planning and Approval but duplicates other existing agencies.

the Conservatives say they will abolish it if elected and the government says it cant enact the enabling legislation before the end of the current Parliament.

This is a typcial piece of BS governance that the Poms and we have to suffer under. Dumb arse pollies and civil servants with no governance nous or skills</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to see how governments operate go to yesterdays Timesonline. The Labour government has set up a quango costing STG9million a year with 40 staff The chairman gets STG185,000 a year. But is cant operate because the government hasnt yet set the legal parameters around its operations It isnolved in Infrastructure Planning and Approval but duplicates other existing agencies.</p>
<p>the Conservatives say they will abolish it if elected and the government says it cant enact the enabling legislation before the end of the current Parliament.</p>
<p>This is a typcial piece of BS governance that the Poms and we have to suffer under. Dumb arse pollies and civil servants with no governance nous or skills</p>
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		<title>By: jaba</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/hypocrisy_and_lies_on_state_sector_ceo_salaries.html#comment-655647</link>
		<dc:creator>jaba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>grass roots Labour party supporters will not care that Robertson and Goff are bullshit artists over this, or indeed over any other rubbish they say.
I read that when Goff was quizzed over the fact that Labour had 9 frigging long years to sort this out, he said we are in a different situation now and .. the goody, Labour has a new leader ,, ffs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grass roots Labour party supporters will not care that Robertson and Goff are bullshit artists over this, or indeed over any other rubbish they say.<br />
I read that when Goff was quizzed over the fact that Labour had 9 frigging long years to sort this out, he said we are in a different situation now and .. the goody, Labour has a new leader ,, ffs</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Ranapia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Ranapia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CONSUMER ADVISORY: 

&#039;For The Many, not The Few&#039; has now been re-branded &#039;Do What I Say, Don&#039;t Say What I Do&#039;.

Carry on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CONSUMER ADVISORY: </p>
<p>&#8216;For The Many, not The Few&#8217; has now been re-branded &#8216;Do What I Say, Don&#8217;t Say What I Do&#8217;.</p>
<p>Carry on.</p>
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		<title>By: lofty</title>
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		<dc:creator>lofty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another confirmation that the transfering of my vote was the right decision.
ppppfffftttt to popularist bollocks.
Hypocrite goff and his cronies couldn&#039;t lie straight in bed, in fact they will need to use a cork screw to dig their graves, when the time comes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another confirmation that the transfering of my vote was the right decision.<br />
ppppfffftttt to popularist bollocks.<br />
Hypocrite goff and his cronies couldn&#8217;t lie straight in bed, in fact they will need to use a cork screw to dig their graves, when the time comes.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Fawkes</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/hypocrisy_and_lies_on_state_sector_ceo_salaries.html#comment-655626</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tories only voted to support the Labour Party based on the utter lies given by Blair to Parliament. Having re-read your crass comments, I have only one comment. You don&#039;t know what the F you are talking about. The Class war is over. Didn&#039;t work in Crewe and Alsager did it?

Expect ZaNuLabour to be a bereft, irrelevant and bitter as Labour are in NZ. Oh, how they miss the Wicked Queen of the South.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tories only voted to support the Labour Party based on the utter lies given by Blair to Parliament. Having re-read your crass comments, I have only one comment. You don&#8217;t know what the F you are talking about. The Class war is over. Didn&#8217;t work in Crewe and Alsager did it?</p>
<p>Expect ZaNuLabour to be a bereft, irrelevant and bitter as Labour are in NZ. Oh, how they miss the Wicked Queen of the South.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Fawkes</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/hypocrisy_and_lies_on_state_sector_ceo_salaries.html#comment-655619</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ex-pat, please could you clarify how the Conservatives spent money on the two Wars that you mentioned? We will know a little more about the lead up to the Iraq WarII. It will be fascinating to watch Fony Tony give clear evidence. 

From what I can see, which appears to be one hell of a lot more than that demented freak McDoom and Bust. You are really speaking in the same vane as NZ Labour. Lying is in Socialists DNA. You are sounding like a whinging Pom.

For the record, I am not an individual aligned to any political party here or anywhere. I just like to see what is pragmatic, and gives vent to hard work and aspiration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ex-pat, please could you clarify how the Conservatives spent money on the two Wars that you mentioned? We will know a little more about the lead up to the Iraq WarII. It will be fascinating to watch Fony Tony give clear evidence. </p>
<p>From what I can see, which appears to be one hell of a lot more than that demented freak McDoom and Bust. You are really speaking in the same vane as NZ Labour. Lying is in Socialists DNA. You are sounding like a whinging Pom.</p>
<p>For the record, I am not an individual aligned to any political party here or anywhere. I just like to see what is pragmatic, and gives vent to hard work and aspiration.</p>
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		<title>By: davidp</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Little more than a political stunt. That’s NZ Labour.

Do Robertson and Goff have a resource consent to spread thousands of tonnes of bullshit all over NZ?

Nick Smith should send this one to the environmental court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Little more than a political stunt. That’s NZ Labour.</p>
<p>Do Robertson and Goff have a resource consent to spread thousands of tonnes of bullshit all over NZ?</p>
<p>Nick Smith should send this one to the environmental court.</p>
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		<title>By: m@tt</title>
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		<dc:creator>m@tt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That raw nerve of yours is really buzzing isn&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That raw nerve of yours is really buzzing isn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: XChequer</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/hypocrisy_and_lies_on_state_sector_ceo_salaries.html#comment-655570</link>
		<dc:creator>XChequer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol @ kowtow

XChequer
http://thenzhomeoffice.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol @ kowtow</p>
<p>XChequer<br />
<a href="http://thenzhomeoffice.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thenzhomeoffice.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: kowtow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/hypocrisy_and_lies_on_state_sector_ceo_salaries.html#comment-655567</link>
		<dc:creator>kowtow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil Goff: 3 words; 

Foot,self,shoot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Goff: 3 words; </p>
<p>Foot,self,shoot.</p>
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		<title>By: scrubone</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/hypocrisy_and_lies_on_state_sector_ceo_salaries.html#comment-655566</link>
		<dc:creator>scrubone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to be a bit going around today. I&#039;ve just written a post outlining Obama&#039;s Hypocrisy, it&#039;ll publish in an hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to be a bit going around today. I&#8217;ve just written a post outlining Obama&#8217;s Hypocrisy, it&#8217;ll publish in an hour.</p>
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		<title>By: XChequer</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/hypocrisy_and_lies_on_state_sector_ceo_salaries.html#comment-655564</link>
		<dc:creator>XChequer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New slogan for the Labour Party:

Labour: Why let truth get in the way of a good press release?

XChequer
http://thenzhomeoffice.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New slogan for the Labour Party:</p>
<p>Labour: Why let truth get in the way of a good press release?</p>
<p>XChequer<br />
<a href="http://thenzhomeoffice.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thenzhomeoffice.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Inventory2</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/hypocrisy_and_lies_on_state_sector_ceo_salaries.html#comment-655558</link>
		<dc:creator>Inventory2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed DPF - and Goff is of course bound by the convention of collective Cabinet responsiblity for decisions made whilst he was a member of the Labour Cabinet. If he now thinks that the more-than-25% pay rises given to departmental CEO&#039;s was a mistake, he should be honest enough to say so. 

Perhaps instead of focusing on &quot;ordinary New Zealanders&quot; this year, the Labour Party should make its 2010 goal to re-write recent history :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed DPF &#8211; and Goff is of course bound by the convention of collective Cabinet responsiblity for decisions made whilst he was a member of the Labour Cabinet. If he now thinks that the more-than-25% pay rises given to departmental CEO&#8217;s was a mistake, he should be honest enough to say so. </p>
<p>Perhaps instead of focusing on &#8220;ordinary New Zealanders&#8221; this year, the Labour Party should make its 2010 goal to re-write recent history <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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