Parents blast teachers union

January 21st, 2010 at 6:54 pm by David Farrar

The NZ School Trustees Assn (effectively the voice for parents) is getting sick of the union tactics:

The continued “shotgun approach” by the primary teachers union () and the (NZPF) to the Nationals Standards issue is not helpful to anyone says the New Zealand School Trustees Association.

President Lorraine Kerr says the constant shifting of the ground, and arguments, hoping that one of the approaches will score a response with the school community, Boards of Trustees, and others, does not strengthen the unions’ case at all. Indeed, if they are not careful, there is a risk they may end up shooting themselves in the foot by way of an ever increasing credibility gap.

In other words, stop scaremongering.

The concerns appear to shift constantly, so it’s no surprise that many people find the whole debate somewhat confusing, and, in fact it is rapidly becoming quite tiresome, she says.

“I have every sympathy for those many parents/caregivers, who see nothing wrong with the idea that they should know how their children are doing in key areas, including literacy/numeracy, from wondering what the fuss is actually about,” Lorraine Kerr says.

And that is all it is about. Allowing parents to know how theri kids are doing in terms of meeting or exceeding the national standard for numeracy and literacy.

has also struggled at times to identify what the issue actually is, but did get some clarity at a meeting in late 2009 when the president of NZEI stated that NZEI would have no problems at all with if the threat of league tables was removed.

Lorraine Kerr says that if that is the real driving concern, it needed quickly dealt with.

The unions need to recognise this is the Internet age. You can not prevent parents from sharing info on schools.You can’t prevent any number of people or organisations from doing comparison tables – just as you get in the health sector, the police sector, the finance sector etc etc.

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12 Responses to “Parents blast teachers union”

  1. MajorBloodnok (361 comments) says:

    The teachers are after only their own self-interest in this. They are not serving the children, or the parents. Some of them are scared that they might be finally shown up to be less competent than they imagined.

    Everywhere else (almost), the best workers are rewarded for their skill and hard work. And the worst are weeded out. Teachers need to live in the same world as the rest of us.

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  2. gravedodger (1,570 comments) says:

    On the nail Major sir. The bad teachers have no idea how incompetent they actually are and the poor bloody parents find out too late for the remedy to be applied if they ever find out. Ask the realists at university and they will relate many many cases of inadequate numeracy and literacy presenting for admission to courses that require a reasonable standard of either or both.

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  3. mickysavage (786 comments) says:

    The NZ School Trustees Association is not effectively the voice for parents. It is the voice for a bunch of right wingers who managed to get themselves into positions of authority while Labour was in power.

    I know many teachers and the suggestion that they are not anything but totally committed to the education of the children in their responsibility is bollocks.

    They have no problems with BOTs except when incompetent trustees insist that their understanding of education is better than that of the teachers.

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  4. Whafe (650 comments) says:

    Micky, pull your head in…. There is no doubt there are some absolutely awesome teachers, but the ratio of awesome teachers is not high enough….. When a parent works out that their child has a shit teacher and people suffer, it is too late and nothing happens to the teacher…

    I was no angel at school, but when I cast my mind back, and rate teachers, I had some absolute shitters, and my grades and reports tell the story…… I made it in the end, but hard work was needed.

    Teachers are just shitting themselves that this will identify the “shitters”

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  5. MajorBloodnok (361 comments) says:

    Then, mickysavage, explain why teachers dread the thought that parents might find out that some schools are hopeless at educating children in the things that the parents think is important?

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  6. burt (8,316 comments) says:

    The unions need to recognise this is the Internet age.

    Perhaps we could set them up a social network site called ; “www.sticking-it-to-the-man.com”

    Trotter can be the web site administrator and post lengthy diatribes about the good old days of wharf strikes, natural justice using lead pipes to bash scabs and other romantic reminiscing of the past when being in the union was something to feel proud of.

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  7. expat (4,050 comments) says:

    I’d like to know how my kids are going relative to the national cohort present and historical, whats wrong with that?

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  8. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    Interesting to observe the exacte same thing happening in Australia and the teachers are saying they will “boycott” the system.

    The government (by the way they’re not ‘right wingers” you enourmous penis mickey) have invited them to observe that its a leaw and they can do their jobs or find new ones.

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  9. KiwiGreg (3,259 comments) says:

    In mickey’s world I guess the only people with the kids’ interests at heart are the teachers and their union…god alone knows what the agenda of the government, adminstrators, trustees and parents are.

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  10. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    Grag if sat in enough staff rooms to know that in fact that is exactly what they think. Not only do most teachers believe they have a right to raise other peoples children but the duty to do so.

    Their conviction of their own moral superiority rivals the faith of Augustine.

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  11. simo (151 comments) says:

    Shut up micky

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  12. jackp (668 comments) says:

    I have come across some teachers that wouldn’t cooperate with me. What was I doing? I was asking questions about my son’s math test. All I wanted was a copy of his test to take home and we go over it. The teacher wouldn’t give me his copy. Other teachers said this is standard practice. I fought very hard but kept getting stonewalled. I think national standards are a must in New Zealand because the teacher union are not there to help the parent find out how their children are doing. NCEA is a joke. I read my stepson’s report, he graduated from high school, and still to this day have no idea how well he is did. You immediately know by the old method, abcdf. Now, it is all bullshit. to much fuzzy feel good stuff.

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