Which Republicans said this about Obama?
January 11th, 2010 at 8:22 pm by David FarrarThe first quote is:
A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee
The second quote is:
a “light-skinned” black man “with no Negro dialect unless he wanted to have one.”
So was this Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin? Dick Cheney and Bill O’Reilly?
No, according to a new book called Game Change, the first quote was made by Bill Clinton to Ted Kennedy, and the second by Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Clinton’s quote is of course incorrect. If it involved serving himself and Ted Kennedy, there is no way they would have been getting served coffee – whiskey is far more likely.
January 11th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Watch the left wing media in the states (MSNBC and CNN in particular) gloss over this, had McCain said this about B Hussein Messiah Obama they would be all over it, accusations of racist behaviour would be flooding their news channels.
Vote:January 11th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee
A little context here might help. A few years ago Clinton was president and Ted Kennedy was a Senator, while Obama was a young activist in the democratic party, ie the kind of guy who might get coffee for Clinton and Kennedy – irregardless of race.
Vote:January 11th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
And right on cue Danyl demonstrates exactly how the left will treat this.
Would Danyl rush to offer the same explanation if these words had been uttered by McCain or Palin?
I doubt it.
Vote:January 11th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
mmm .. whisky/whiskey
Vote:January 11th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Danyl: Irregardless? Sounds like a George W Bushism!
Vote:January 11th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Danyl put foot in mouth and said “irregardless of race.”
Arghhhhhhhh! No such word as “irregardless”, regardless of anything you say in reply.
Vote:January 11th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Americans are Racist in Shock Racist American Scandal.
Vote:January 11th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
some crucial little detail:
So he acknowledged it and apologised.
[DPF: Apologising was not enough to save Trent Lott from resigning as Senate Majority Leader]
Vote:January 11th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
What makes you think Bill O’Reilly is a Republican?
He:
1. Is a registered independent.
Vote:2. Supports civil unions and doesn’t personally oppose gay marriage.
3. Accepts global warming.
4. Doesn’t think abortion should be illegal.
5. Supports gun control.
6. Opposes the death penalty.
January 11th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Danyl – the Clinton quote was made in 2008. Obama was elected to the State Senate in 1996. I have never heard of a period of 12 years being called “a few years ago” despite your rather desperate attempt to make it so.
Incidentally Kennedy himself didn’t see the comment as benignly as you. It so infuriated him, he went out and endorsed Obama, and told people about the conversation as he was so offended by it.
I also note that at the time Clinton made the statement, Obama was aged 46 – the age Clinton was when he was elected President – so he couldn’t possibly be suggesting Obama is simply too young. Also JFK was elected President at age 43 and a Senator at age 35. RFK became Attorney-General at age 35 and Ted Kennedy himself was a Senator at age 30 – the constitutional minimum.
It is possible he was saying Obama was too inexperienced (which he is, and it shows)? Well it is possible, but a damn unusual and patronising way to show it.
Vote:January 11th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
I’m finding a lot of crossover between “acknowledging it” and “being called on it” lately.
Vote:January 11th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
I posted this in the general thread.. but ill repost here.
WASHINGTON, Jan 10 (Reuters) –
Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele said Reid should step aside as Senate majority leader, saying if a Republican made the same remarks Democrats would be “screaming for his head.”
“Oh yeah, there’s a big double standard here,” Steele, who is black, said on the NBC program “Meet the Press.”
“There is this standard where the Democrats feel that they can say these things and they can apologize when it … comes from the mouths of their own. But if it comes from anyone else, it’s racism,” Steele added on “Fox News Sunday.”
Steele said Reid used “anachronistic language,” adding, “It harkens back to the 1950s and 60s, and it confirms to me a mind-set that’s out of step with where America is today.”
Vote:January 11th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Did he say they have ‘big hands’ or ‘big feet’
That would have got him drummed out of the National Party- or least ‘kicked upstairs’ where he would not scare the children
Vote:January 11th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Who said “How many times is Biden gonna say something stupid?”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31302.html
Of course, the Liberal media knew all this information BEFORE the election. The only previously published stuff is from the McCain/Palin campaign. Anything that cast the other team in a bad light was kept queit.
Go figure!
Vote:January 11th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Deceiver quotes Obama talking about Lott: “The Republican Party itself has to drive out Trent Lott. If they have to stand for something, they have to stand up and say this is not the person we want representing our party.” And asks why the same standard doesn’t apply to Reid or Clinton.
They also note that “Practically everyone on the Internet” can see the racism in the Reid and Clinton statements. The “practically” qualifier is there for the tiny minority who will jump through hoops to excuse racism. The tiny minority like Danyl McLauchlan.
http://deceiver.com/2010/01/11/let-us-now-praise-famous-negroes
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 12:11 am
Well the left is all about inclusion and love, peace and harmony and shit like that, hey they market themselves on it after all. Pity they let themselves down every time. Just like Young Labour nicking free piss, sorry, re-distributing booze owned by others.
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 12:14 am
Yes, but you failed to mention it anyway.
And Trent Lott did not resign just over that one comment. He had a history of, shall we say, controversy over civil rights. He made similar comments about Thurmond more than once, defending his views.
Now Thurmond was racist and a hypocrite. Fought for segregation while he shagged a black maid and even fathered a child with her.
Saying that Thurmond would have been a good president and would have saved us a lot of problems, well it pretty much speaks for itself.
So exactly what is the point you are trying to make with this post? It is not quite clear to me.
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Thurmond was a racist yes, as is the Democratic Senator Robert Byrd who was in the KKK. And Lott said Thurmond would have been a good President on his 100th birthday party – you tend to say nice things about people when they turn 100.
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 7:29 am
DC Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton on Fox explaining why Sen. Reid should stay.
And Lott was rolled by his own side.
Who’s closer to stepping down: Reid or Steele?
Vote:Chris Cillizza: It’s a tie.
Cillizza adds: I think the better way to frame this question is if Reid loses in the fall since that is a FAR more likely prospect than him resigning.
January 12th, 2010 at 7:57 am
But its all trivial at the end of the day, no?
Glen Greenwald described Game Change as just royal court gossip.
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Who descrided Obama as “this black boy”?
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 8:29 am
@Murray
Silvio Berlusconi?
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Jimah Carter.
Another prize from the dems.
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 9:41 am
Again, Murray, are any of these quotes important in the grander scheme of things?
If people latch onto things others say off the cuff and make big politically correct song and dance about it, then so be it. It’s all very titillating.
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Its important if a Republican says it, not if a democrat does.
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 9:57 am
A Republican with “a long record of support for neo-segregationist politics and white supremacist groups in his home state”, who other Republicans want to oust, compared to a Democrat with a strong record on civil rights and anti-discrimination, and is not being challenged?
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 10:21 am
A day without pete is a day with labour party funded gibberish.
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Why would the Labour Party only gibberise on days I’m not here?
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Race is a big issue in the US always has been. I am not too shocked by the colourful way US pols privately speak about race. And little surprises about Clinton.
What is far more interesting about the book was the dysfunction of the McCain campaign and the reckless way Palin was chosen. They knew nothing about her and she knew nothing about public policy or international affairs.
To think that was the Republican Party’s offering for someone to be heartbeat away from the Presidency. Its truly shocking for a 1st world democracy.
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 11:43 am
@Murray
I know what you are getting at, but don’t think it is too important if a Republican big-beast says anything something vaguely racist either. Probably because I’m a kiwi and it isn’t my fight.
Republicans vs Democrats is an interesting topic, but does their tit-for-tat really need to spill into the NZ blogosphere?
We have plenty of our own, thankyou very much
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Hey Pete, pop quiz: which party in the US has the darker history in regard to civil rights and race relations?
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
“What is far more interesting about the book was the dysfunction of the McCain campaign and the reckless way Palin was chosen. They knew nothing about her and she knew nothing about public policy or international affairs.
To think that was the Republican Party’s offering for someone to be heartbeat away from the Presidency. Its truly shocking for a 1st world democracy.”
And Palin has been taking Obama to school ever since.
Vote:January 12th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Race is a big issue in the US always has been. I am not too shocked by the colourful way US pols privately speak about race. And little surprises about Clinton.
Yet if a leading Republican had said that, you’d be screaming for blood.
What is far more interesting about the book was the dysfunction of the McCain campaign and the reckless way Palin was chosen. They knew nothing about her and she knew nothing about public policy or international affairs.
To think that was the Republican Party’s offering for someone to be heartbeat away from the Presidency. Its truly shocking for a 1st world democracy.
No, what is far more interesting is that the current President thinks his Vice President is a moron – and Joe Biden IS one heartbeat away from the Presidency!
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 3:27 am
[DPF: Apologising was not enough to save Trent Lott from resigning as Senate Majority Leader]
If Harry Reid ever opines that America would have been a better place if Strom Thurmond had become President, then kick the fucker to the curb too.
And Lott said Thurmond would have been a good President on his 100th birthday party – you tend to say nice things about people when they turn 100.
Or you decide some free dinners just aren’t worth it, and plead a previous engagement. Just a thought.
Vote:January 15th, 2010 at 6:29 am
“A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee”
So what was his meaning?
Vote:That he’s boasting that he thinks America has changed and because of that change African-American people are getting to be elected as senior politicians, or was he saying that things were better when African-Americans were more restricted in their employment opportunities and them getting elected as senior politicians was rare? Or are people suggesting there was some other meaning to his phrase?