Who said this?

January 25th, 2010 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

The Jakarta Globe reports a former Prime Minister of a certain country saying:

said on Wednesday there was “strong evidence” the US faked the September 11 terror attacks as an excuse to go to war against Muslims.

“There is strong evidence that the attacks were staged. If they can make Avatar, they can make anything,’ …

and as with many 911 conspirayc nutsm they are also anti-semites:

The former premier also blamed Jews for hindering progress in US foreign policy. Voicing his disappointment that Barack Obama had not yet ended the war in Afghanistan or closed the US terror detention center at Guantanamo, he explained that “there are forces in the United States which prevent the president from doing some things. One of the forces is the Jewish lobby.”

And the highlight being his disappointment over the final solution not being final:

Jews “had always been a problem in European countries. They had to be confined to ghettoes and periodically massacred. But still they remained, they thrived and they held whole governments to ransom,”

“Even after their massacre by the Nazis of Germany, they survived to continue to be a source of even greater problems for the world.”

This shows how extreme some anti-semites are. You would think such a speech should get the former PM condemned around the world, but instead his comments get largely ignored.

Now as blogged elsewhere, consider how people in Israel feel, when the former premier of one of the most economically advanced Muslim-majority countries openly endorses the view that Holocausts against Jews are natural and inevitable.

The former PM may surprise some (but not those who know him). It is not Iran, or a gulf state. It is Mahathir Mohamad of Malaysia.

Hat Tip: Whale Oil

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39 Responses to “Who said this?”

  1. Grizz (610 comments) says:

    Mahathir Mohamad has always been a nutcase. I wonder Minto will discredit him for this innapropriate and downright predjudice outburst……..unlikely.

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  2. Swiftman the infidel (329 comments) says:

    He also hates whites (as does Minto).

    Assholes, both of them.

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  3. Bevan (3,924 comments) says:

    Bloody Hell DPF! Have you only just discovered that guy is bat shit crazy? Where the hell have you been?

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  4. kowtow (8,770 comments) says:

    Nothing from the mouth of Mahathir should surprise.

    No wonder the largest opposition grouping in Egypt ,the Muslim Brotherhood would prefer a Malay Muslim over an Egyptian Copt to be president of Egypt.

    And yes Israel as a state has a lot to fear from its neighbours with nuts like these gaining influence all over the place.

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1263147950688&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

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  5. gravedodger (1,570 comments) says:

    Another bit of convincing evidence supporting the “fact” ” that Islam is a religion of peace”

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  6. Bob (497 comments) says:

    Of course John Minto will now demonstrate outside the Malaysian embassy or it’s representative. Incidentally I saw Minto demonstrating at Waihopi against the spy base. It doesn’t seem to occur to him that intercepted communications there can help in detecting terrorists such as those who were planning to blow up a number of airliners over the Atlantic.

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  7. Jeff83 (745 comments) says:

    Is indeed quite disconcerting, and much like the extreme of any group of views bring more disrepute to those that would argue it than anything else.

    However one can still be very critical of the Jewish lobby and the power it does wield in the US but not be an anti semite, some refuse to acknowledge that one can.

    Pretty sure its Malaysia isnt it that is currently having riots because Christians there used the word “Allah” to describe “God”, considering they come from the same background and are techinically the same being all a bit of goodness knows what.

    The spread of the Saudi Arabian take on Islam (Wahhabist) has allot to answer for in the world. All fueled ironically with oil profits.

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  8. Whafe (650 comments) says:

    Bob – dont under estimate it when I say that Minto is the first living brain donor…..

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  9. ben (2,384 comments) says:

    For evidence of the US Government’s competence, look at Medicare, Medicaid, Nasa, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the ethanol subsidy program, and now GM/Chrysler. It is a terminally and deeply incompetent and ill-disciplined organisation.

    Forget 9/11, the US government could not organise a piss up in a brewery.

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  10. mikh (33 comments) says:

    And Minto’s other loopy mate, Hugo Chavez, has just declared the Haiti earthquake to be caused by a new US terror machine.

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread536465/pg1

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  11. Sean (301 comments) says:

    Malaysia still doesn’t recognise the State of Israel. As a result there are no commercial flights between Israel and Singapore (despite the business and other ties between the two nations), since all flights from Singapore must pass through Malaysian airspace…

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  12. andrei (2,668 comments) says:

    Psalm 82 (83)

    1 Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.

    2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

    3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

    4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

    5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

    6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;

    7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;

    8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

    9 Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison:

    10 Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth.

    11 Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna:

    12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.

    13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind.

    14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;

    15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.

    16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD.

    17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish:

    18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

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  13. lastmanstanding (1,300 comments) says:

    Now Now You must know that critics of America or the west in general are protected persons

    they can say what they like and no one is allowed to raise any compliants.

    Critics against the Muzzies Now that different, they are to be reviled and told they dont understand etc etc etc and they must not raise any criticism against the peace loving Muslims. LOL

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  14. kD (12 comments) says:

    DPF – where is your blog entry re Bin Laden recently reiterating 9/11 and subsequent terror attacks were in response to US supporting Israel financially and politically (eg vetoing the UN unfailingly)

    Can you confirm the killing or displacement of millions of Palestinians since Israel’s inception was/is natural and inevitable?

    [DPF: If you think Bin Laden’s attacks are only about Israel, you’re mad. But what has this got to do with what the Malaysian ex PM said – he was advocating that it was good to wipe out the Jews – do you agree with him?]

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  15. Kris K (3,570 comments) says:

    Of course, many of the views expressed by Mahathir Mohamad regarding the Jews and Israel are common among many/most that worship the moon god, and follow his prophet Mohammed.

    This is the Islamic world view.

    Psalm 83 that Andrei quoted at 3:35 pm makes this clear regarding the Ishmaelites et al.

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  16. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    This man is definitely UN material.

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  17. kD (12 comments) says:

    DPF – You’re aware the 911 Commission itself states “blowback” against support for Israel (and interferring in the Middle East generally) as the sole reason for the attacks.

    You’ll also have noted Bin Laden spelt it out quite plainly a couple of days ago. Straight from the horses mouth, as they say.

    I’m sorry, your link must be broken – there are several quotes, probably taken out of context, none of which advocate wiping out Jews.

    [DPF: I’m sorry,but you have avoided the question. Do you think the Holocaust was a good thing or a bad thing?]

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  18. MikeNZ (3,234 comments) says:

    Griz
    You are incorrect sadly.
    Mahathir Mohamad is not a nutcase in Islam, he is the elader of a country that is considered moderate by the West.
    He is an educated man who walks with ease on the world stage and especially in the Organisation of Islamic Council (OIC) that seeks to promote Islamic Dawa throughout the world.

    I am so glad DPF has linked to this as whilst I agree with OB1 thast we need to war against Al Quaeda and not Islam per se, Islam per se is the problem per se.
    This is a conversatioon that needs to be had until everyone is aware of the drivers behind Al Quaeda, Wahhabism and their reading of the Koran within Islam.
    This is a serious thing, your very freedom is at risk as others are finding right now in the UK, France, Denmark, Holland and even Germany.

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5723371/the-thin-blue-line-of-jihad.thtml

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  19. MikeNZ (3,234 comments) says:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/01/jews_had_to_be_periodically_ma.html
    http://blogs.news.com.au/couriermail/andrewbolt/index.php/couriermail/comments/mahathir_jews_had_to_be_periodically_massacred/

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  20. Kris K (3,570 comments) says:

    MikeNZ 7:02 pm,

    I am so glad DPF has linked to this as whilst I agree with OB1 thast we need to war against Al Quaeda and not Islam per se, Islam per se is the problem per se.

    Indeed, Mike.
    Every act of terrorism committed by a Muslim can be justified from the Koran, the Hadiths, and the example that Mohammed set.

    Islam itself is the world’s largest terrorist organisation.

    The West needs to wake up to this fact.

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  21. metcalph (1,434 comments) says:

    kD DPF – You’re aware the 911 Commission itself states “blowback” against support for Israel (and interferring in the Middle East generally) as the sole reason for the attacks.

    You can quit lying. “Blowback” is only mentioned once in the entire report in a context that has nothing to do with support for Israel and it is not cited as the sole reason for the attack (nor would the Commission make such a stupid statement).

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  22. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    Israel’s just a stick AQ can use because they know the Western left hate the place. Bin Laden won’t be happy until there’s an Islamic caliphate stretching from the Atlantic to the Ganges.

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  23. grumpyoldhori (2,362 comments) says:

    Mahathir Mohammad is a nutter but, I notice a lot of posters seem to support Israel.
    Very short memories you have, I have not seen a report of a Muslim committing treason against NZ unlike a bloke who is a Jewish Kiwi.

    So how many want that bloke back so he can stand trial for treason, or should we because of the history of the Jewish people forgive and forget ?

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  24. TimG_Oz (865 comments) says:

    Oh GrumpyOldHori… You make this statement about treason all the time.

    What did the bloke actually do? You don’t even seem to know…..

    Tell me, please, because I don’t know either

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  25. metcalph (1,434 comments) says:

    He’s talking about someone who left the country when the passport scandal broke out.

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  26. cha (4,081 comments) says:

    Oh GrumpyOldHori… You make this statement about treason all the time.

    What did the bloke actually do? You don’t even seem to know…..

    Tell me, please, because I don’t know either

    David Resnick

    As an ardent Zionist with dual Israeli-New Zealand citizenship, Resnick fitted the bill of a “sayan”, an assistant hired by Mossad from Jewish communities to help in a supportive role.

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  27. grumpyoldhori (2,362 comments) says:

    TimG_Oz, Resnick did not commit treason ?

    We should just accept what he did ?

    Would you have the same understanding for a Muslim ?
    And no I would trust no ardent Zionist the same as I would trust no ardent Muslim who flew off to fight for the Taliban.
    I would go further, any Kiwi who swears allegiance to Israel while serving in the IDF should be stripped of their NZ citizenship.

    I wonder how many others we have in NZ who have served in the IDF and so are not to be trusted ?

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  28. TimG_Oz (865 comments) says:

    Hey GOH

    I have sworn allegiance to another country – strip me of my rights. I dare you.

    What did he do? I don’t know … so tell me, rather than making opaque accusations (over and over). Just because you don’t like Israel and you want to single it out. There were Kuwaitis caught with false NZ passports – what happened? It was swept under the carpet, and you don’t seem to ever mention that.

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  29. grumpyoldhori (2,362 comments) says:

    Hey Tim, swore loyalty to Australia’s Queen, well, big deal.

    You do not get it do you, I dislike any arsehole who commits treason against NZ, my answer would be a hemp swing and then a fair trial.
    Why did he do it easy, he saw himself as an Israeli not as a Kiwi, but he did not dump his NZ citizenship which made what he did treason.

    Kuwaitis with false passports, they should have got what those Mossadd types got, three months.

    You immigrants seem to be very flexible when loyalty to country comes up, amusing how many of you believe you are owed entry to NZ.

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  30. TimG_Oz (865 comments) says:

    What a complete double standard.

    You haven’t defined what it was that was treasonous. What did the guy do – go jogging with the Israelis?? You’d be hanging a lot of people…. Maybe there’s a few more hanging offences you could implement. Like annoying sports spectators that paid for their tickets

    Owed entry? It wasn’t long ago John Key was begging me to come back. Nobody at all complained with me bringing my Aussie bucks back to spend in your struggling retailers at Xmas.

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  31. grumpyoldhori (2,362 comments) says:

    TimG_Oz , fuck you convicts are slow, you really should have paid more attention at what you called school.
    Treason, fuck it’s easy, he is a yid therefore guilty.
    Should you not be on the Palm Island forums discussing how to kick an Abo to death then arrange a trial for the kicker with an all white jury and judge ?
    Jeez, you convicts must be proud of that piece of shit you call a copper.

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  32. Spoff (275 comments) says:

    I suggest some clarification of what what Dr Mahathir actually said is warranted. Here is a video of the speech given on 10 January. The money quote is at 6.53 when he says:

    “The Jews had often been persecuted, confined to ghettos and even massacred periodically but whenever they were persecuted in Europe they had always found safe haven in Muslim countries”

    I am not sure whether there is another speech to which this thread pertains but from this version it appears that there has been a subtle alteration of one word that changes the whole context.

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  33. Kris K (3,570 comments) says:

    TimG_Oz 10:56 am,

    Now your Kiwi schools have gone to shit with NCEA having ruined academic excellence. Aussie kids are trumping Kiwi kids in everything science, arts and sport.

    And look at the best Aussie schools – see a trend that’s missing from NZ schools???:

    http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/full-marks-for-mount-scopus-in-vce-rankings-20091216-kxi1.html

    It’s pretty clear that of the top schools here (3 of the top 4, 5 of the top 10) all really like Israel!!!!

    Very interesting, Tim.
    Maybe we need some more Jewish schools in New Zealand – not to mention getting rid of the NCEA.
    It has always intrigued me that no matter what the Jews put their hand to they always manage to attain to near perfection or excellence – they always seem to rise above ALL opposition and hatred.

    As a Christian I view this as God’s special hand of providence upon His people – despite them being largely secular and atheistic – He will forever preserve them.

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  34. MyNameIsJack (2,415 comments) says:

    Kris, kindly pop over to GD for a few Q’s.

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  35. jackp (668 comments) says:

    Mahathir, I don’t agree with infact he sounds like a muslim extremist. But there are also lots of questions the US government won’t answer about 911 which raises eyebrows and I am not thoroughly convinced that was a teorrist attack. To say I am an anti-semite is ridiculous because my ex-wife is Israeli. I believe Minto is an educator but not to smart. Most of the surrounding countries want Palestine to be oppressed to have an excuse to attack Israel. Israel gave the gaza strip to Palestine and yet the Palestinians kept attacking Israel with suicide bombings. You have treat 911 and Israel totally separate.

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  36. grumpyoldhori (2,362 comments) says:

    Oh typical right winger are you, whines about the taxation system in NZ then bludges an education at NZ taxpayer expense.
    Tell me, when you went to university how much tax had YOU paid, fuck all is my guess.
    What were you owed by the NZ taxpayer and why ?
    As for Israel well the IDF keep on ranting that the Arab armies they meet were up to the standard of the 90th light, the 15th armoured, the NZ 2 and the Aussie ,6,7 and 9 divisions.

    They will get a surprise if they ever believe having a crack at Turkey is a good idea.

    Unlike you, I’m old fashioned, I believe helping agents from another country try and steal NZ passports is treason.
    No doubt you believe Aussies should just hand them over when asked for.

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  37. Spoff (275 comments) says:

    Mikh.
    Hugo Chavez Did Not Accuse the U.S. of Causing the Haitian Earthquake.
    Within the actual story, ABC noted that the information came from an obscure opinion post on the website of a Venezuelan state television channel, VIVE Television. The post referenced a supposed Russian military report on American seismic weapons.

    All quotes subsequently attributed to Chavez regarding Haiti and earthquake weapons were in fact direct quotes from this web posting — none of which was ever uttered by Chavez.

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  38. TimG_Oz (865 comments) says:

    Oh God now you think I owe New Zealand something?

    Israel and Turkey are political allies. Israel is never going to attack Turkey or vice versa

    So what is the definition of helping? In New Zealand, that pretty much equates to giving someone directions to the Post Office… If you can’t tell me what he did, then stop making accusations with no backing.

    Go ahead, be old fashioned. But seriously, it’s not the 70s any more … get with the times!

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