Young Labour Summer School
January 6th, 2010 at 8:11 am by David FarrarMy spies in Young Labour report that they will be hosting at their upcoming summer school a representative of the Communist Youth League of China – the youth wing of the Chinese Communist Party.
I think this is an excellent move. The Chinese Communist party is far more capitalist than the average member of Young Labour. Hopefully they will learn something about the importance of economic growth!
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January 6th, 2010 at 8:21 am
Will John Minto and his gang of angry confused wankers be protesting outside the Young Labour camp at the inclusion of an official representative of the ruling party from a barbaric regime that doesn’t respect human rights?
Or is he too busy harassing young female tennis players to actually make an ethical political point?
January 6th, 2010 at 8:21 am
yeah and internet suppression, taking bribes and positions for political favours.
not to mention turning a blind eye to human rights abuses or even aiding and abetting them, supplying ammo to Al Quada and other groups destabilising democracies, committing social genocide on people groups, wholesale stealing of copyright.
Oh you meant it tongue in cheek.
silly me.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Like the Chinese Communist party I doubt whether Minto can spell the word ethics, let alone knows what it means.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Maybe they could invite some of the Iranian democrats next year if there are any left.
Haven’t heard from Mr Goff on this one.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5671676/they-do-not-stand-alone.thtml
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Quote from Mombiot’s blog:
“In a new paper published in Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society, Sir Partha Dasgupta makes the point that the problem with gross domestic product is the gross bit(6). There are no deductions involved: all economic activity is accounted as if it were of positive value. Social harm is added to, not subtracted from, social good. A train crash which generates £1bn worth of track repairs, medical bills and funeral costs is deemed by this measure as beneficial as an uninterrupted service which generates £1bn in ticket sales.
Most importantly, no deduction is made to account for the depreciation of natural capital: the overuse or degradation of soil, water, forests, fisheries and the atmosphere. Dasgupta shows that the total wealth of a nation can decline even as its GDP is growing. In Pakistan, for example, his rough figures suggest that while GDP per capita grew by an average of 2.2% a year between 1970 and 2000, total wealth declined by 1.4%. Amazingly, there are still no official figures which seek to show trends in the actual wealth of nations. ”
Vote:http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2010/01/04/consumer-hell/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email
January 6th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Maybe the young communist will teach young Labour about economics and maybe young Labour will teach the young communist something about democracy.
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 8:57 am
lets be fair here.
DPF is actually right on this. The Chinese communist party is a strong believer in capitalist development, it requires its SOEs to be highly commercial, and demands that successful business people succeed so that China can succeed.
The Chinese Government is also deeply concerned about prudent fiscal management. They would clearly consider that the NZ welfare system is ridiculously generous, fiscally unsustainable, and encourages shirking.
And for the reasons that others above point out, the Chinese government is kinda unsympathetic to shirkers. But I guess the organ traffic business based on longterm sickness beneficiaries, while another woefully unexploited natural resource, is largely uneconomic (too overweight, too much smoking and drinking to make for really premium stock).
Anyway, wonder if Sue Bradford will be there? Although it wouldnt be clear whether she would be protesting in support of oppressed workers – or brushing up on her Mandarin…
January 6th, 2010 at 9:27 am
The Chinese Government is also deeply concerned about prudent fiscal management.
They do a mean stimulus package allright.
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Would love to know what their motivation was in inviting someone from the communist party to speak – interesting no doubt but are they being ‘schooled’ in something?!
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 9:57 am
I suspect its as David somewhat tongue in cheek points out. NZ Labour is a global outlier in its hatred and fear of private ownership. If even the Chinese communist party has moved on, then Young Labour might learn something.
In return Young Labour can explain how to run fair elections, deliver social equity, become carbon-neutral, and the right way to treat party bigwigs caught in corrupt acts. Hmm, there’s a Tui ad in there somewhere
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 9:58 am
It’s good to see Young Labour have improved the quality of their guestlists though.
Communists are surely a step up? Eh David?
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/04/blogging_and_journalism.html
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 10:06 am
DPF
Labour are still in denial that their fiscal policies caused a recession in NZ ahead of the global crisis. Had National had some balls and had certain Labour dim-bulbs charged under the public finance act then the idiots would be required to face the music for the mess they created and tried to hide prior to the 2008 election.
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Chinese government another way to spell train wreck.
Massive bubble building in China. Housing trading at 80 times average income. Massive over capacity in the economy, business men don’t talk about factories anymore its property property property and the Chinese govt want to devalue their currency.
The Chinese govt are every bit as retarded as Labor. It is a good mix.
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 10:42 am
You have spies in young lairbor? I thought you were a member.
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 11:21 am
I have no doubt a member of the young China communist party (or whatever) will be no different from the young Labour people, completely out of touch with reality having never faced real life but think this is a great move by the young labourites.
I also hope this moves gains maximum attention, particularly from the slime, pushing home the reality of Labour party aspirations to the not-so-great unwashed.
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 11:29 am
MT_Tinman, I think I recall either DPF or a Labour type saying one of the ‘nice’ and unique things about these ‘young’ groups is that they often invited ‘interesting’ characters along and noone really gives a shit. So sinister agenda revealed, probably not.
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Maybe Jacinda and her Young Labourites can ask their Chinese comrade about this kind of atrocity-
http://www.friendsoftibet.org/main/execution.html
Or is it best swept under the carpet so as not to embarrass their unctuous little friend???
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Will the delicate James Sleep read the speech written by his “mentor” Charles Chauvel?
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Would he throw himself infront of a tank or does he reserve his act of courage for people he know will actually stop?
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Yes, and that will probably be that is is easier to defeat democracy with welfare than tanks.
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
I thought Charles Chauvel was James Sleep (in drag).
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
To me they are just showing their true colours…Home grown red hypocrites .China and India are engaged in a huge military build ,up nuclear included,while most folk in those countries cant even get rid of their shit with a flushing crapper. In the meantime back here in Aoteoroa its” Yankee go home” from these young prats until they want something off them.
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Hattip redbaiter
maybe the items in this article will be up for teaching/sharing
http://www.judicialwatch.org/foiablog/2009/dec/china-espionage-cold-war-levels-0
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Young Labour delegate to Chinese comrade
Do you have elections in China?
Yes…evely morning
I’ll get me coat
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Thanks Mike.
Wonder if these peace loving anti-nuclear globalists in Labour will chastise their Commie comrade over the fact that China spends a large percentage of what it earns from selling junk to the west to continuously build up its fleet of nuclear submarines.
http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/chinese-build-secret-nuclear-submarine-t61173.html
I reckon not. Subversives.
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
of course not according to DPf they are capitalists in training
More like Chinese Intelligence operatives working for companies owned by the military oligarchy, like in Indonesia and Iran.
Vote:January 6th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Labour need to do something .. anything!!!
Vote:At the momemnt their main concern is .. The Govt buting more self drive cars that cost a bit more than they did in 2005, why Bill English didn’t sort his haircut time better and why his driver didn’t wait somewhere else and pick him up later, why the driver didn’t get prosecuted and fined and why do Key and English need more DPS (is that what the bodygaurds are called) than Clark and Cullen!!! FFS, no wonder they are doing so bad in the polls.
Oh, that’s right, they picked up a few % points when Philin pulled out the Maori speech which he is trying to fix up by taking his wife and a few MPs to the East Coast Pa wars (games) to fly their flag.