A new low for political correctness

February 1st, 2010 at 4:30 pm by David Farrar

The Telegraph reports:

Nicole Mamo, 48, wanted to post an advert for a £5.80-an-hour domestic cleaner on her local Jobcentre Plus website.

The text of the advert ended by stating that any applicants for the post ”must be very reliable and hard-working”.

But when Ms Mamo called the Jobcentre Plus in Thetford, Norfolk, the following day she was told that her advert would not be displayed instore.

A Jobcentre Plus worker claimed that the word ”reliable” meant they could be sued for discriminating against unreliable workers.

I really don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

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65 Responses to “A new low for political correctness”

  1. eszett (2,268 comments) says:

    Isn’t this more a case of an idiot at work rather than “PC gone mad?”
    After all, they did post it and said there was no such policy in place:

    A spokeswoman for the Department for Work and Pensions refused to comment on the phone call made to Nicole Mamo.

    She said: “We cannot comment about the phone call. I can confirm that we took the advert from the employer and put it onto our website. Every advert goes onto our website and onto the job points.

    “Reliability is important to employers, as it is for Jobcentre Plus – and we welcome ads seeking reliable applicants.”

    [DPF: It is the culture of political correctness that leads to staff doing stuff like the above. It's like how you can't use the term experienced if it is a proxy for age]

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  2. Pete George (21,806 comments) says:

    I’m more worried about all the soft workers out there, how are they ever going to find work with such blatant discrimination like this?

    And those who like dirtying things – what hope is there for them?

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  3. Rex Widerstrom (5,125 comments) says:

    “Reliable and hard working” would also rule out anyone wishing to stand for elected office.

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  4. MikeNZ (3,234 comments) says:

    DPF Cry is correct over laugh as to get to that level on the local level, it must be permeated and aided and abetted at a National level in the psyche, heart of the nation.

    Rather like working for families here, the middle class benefit.

    Yeah Rex.
    Can just see that going down here.

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  5. XChequer (350 comments) says:

    HC1, in her office in New York, will be delighted to see her program expanding so readily beyond New Zealand!

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  6. Sean (294 comments) says:

    This is presumably the sort of thing Tapu Misa had in (her soft) mind – see http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/headlines.cfm?c_id=466

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  7. kiwitoffee (383 comments) says:

    Cry.

    Because it’s more evidence of the decline (from within) of Europe.

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  8. Inventory2 (9,788 comments) says:

    That’s not political correctness – it’s just plain old stupidity.

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  9. Sushi Goblin (419 comments) says:

    Uh Rex, didn’t you seek political office in 1996 (ultimately not standing but you did wish to stand for NZ First…)

    Maybe you got better….

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  10. big bruv (12,352 comments) says:

    Before we take a dig at the Poms we might want to have a closer look at the crap that goes on here.

    Yesterday a man was stabbed to death for the sake of a $20 taxi fare, I have seen this item reported at least four times on the TV news and only once have the repeaters told us who the Police are looking for in connection with the crime, even then they did so in almost whispered tones.

    It seems….and this will come as a huge suprise…..that the Police are looking for a ‘brown skinned youth”, now I suspect that ‘brown skinned youth’ is the modern PC term for Maori.

    Have we become so PC that in an effort to pretend that Maori are not a walking crime wave we are going to ignore or hide the crimes that the commit?

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  11. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    Yeah BB “brown-skinned” is our equiv of “african-american”. Once upon a time we used to use their real names.

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  12. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    I’ve often wondered what would happen if MLK made his “I have a dream” speech today. The PC Lefties would probably be OK with “not being judged by the color of their skin” ( they would naturally assume this doesn’t apply to judging whites ), but the bit about judging people by the “content of their character” would make them think he was a closet fascist…

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  13. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    Big Bruv could it be that we have more than one group of brownskins? and all of them are walking crimewaves. eg tongan crimewave, samoan crimewave, niuean crimewave. Theres some pretty good whiteskin crims too

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  14. mickysavage (786 comments) says:

    Obviously Helen is to blame (joke).

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  15. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    Mickysavage thats not a joke on this channel my friend

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  16. kiwireader (48 comments) says:

    Reminds me of a story about a manager who gave an employee the following comment in their performance review: “xxx would be perfectly suited to unemployment”. I don’t expect such forthright honesty would wash these days unfortunately. Pity, we have such high numbers of useless crimewave types who fit the description.

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  17. peterwn (2,935 comments) says:

    Best one since Wellington College copped it for advertising for a ‘Headmaster’. They did appoint a man and he is still there.

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  18. big bruv (12,352 comments) says:

    mikeysmokes

    1. “could it be that we have more than one group of brownskins”

    Yes, of course we have more than one lot of “brownskins”

    2. “and all of them are walking crimewaves. eg tongan crimewave, samoan crimewave, niuean crimewave”

    There you are wrong, sure, there is some crime committed by Pacific Islanders and as you say, some is committed by white skin people, however, none of these groups are as likely to commit crime as are Maori.

    The real point here Mikey is this, has the murdering low life been a PI or a “white skin” then the press would more than likely have made that information a central part of their story, the fact that they have not made it a bi issue says so much.

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  19. redqueen (342 comments) says:

    This sort of thing is highly unsurprising in the UK and just another reason not to live there. The culture of groupthink that prevails, which is heavily influenced by ‘Political Correctness’, makes life dreary and boring. While the Torygraph may notice it, the basic problem will prevail.

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  20. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    PI’s have not been raised to believe that they were screwed by the whiteys and that they are owed a living for doing nothing.
    I would hire a PI anyday in preference to a Maori they are much better workers.

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  21. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    Really Big bruv? could it be that it was just a description of the attacker you know like “medium height,heavy set with brown skin”?
    could it also be that they dont want to play a guessing game over what kind of brownie he is? Like caucausion, Asian etc was he white or was he welsh of polish extraction, was he korean or just asian or just yellow skinned?
    When Clayton Weatherston was on the news every night was it “a central part of their story” that he was whit

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  22. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    So all PIs are better than Maoris Johnboy?

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  23. noodle (151 comments) says:

    All bloody nonsense. A cleaners job? What’s wrong with a sign in the window, JOB AVAIL. APPLY WITHIN.
    Sigh … except today you’d have to post it in 25 languages, many of the applicants wouldn’t fit through the door, have a grasp on reality, understand the concept of actually working for pay or not desire to bankrupt you if you told them that they were the wrong gender, idle tossers, greedy or generally useless.
    Actually, if I still employed people, I would resolutely ignore all current “guidelines/restrictions” and go loudly public with my contempt of such idiotic thinking. Someone has to!

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  24. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    Qualifications being equal PI’s generally have a better work ethic and a smaller shoulder chip than Maoris mikey. Its all in the breeding I guess.

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  25. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    Know any Maoris Johnboy? dont tell me, your best mates with Alan Duff right?

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  26. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    Been hiring all races for 33years young mikey and speaking from my experience.

    Maybe I just don’t know them as well as you. Tell me more.

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  27. Fale Andrew Lesa (473 comments) says:

    What’s even more disturbing is the fact that a North Shore city primary school teacher has been paying two 12 year old children (both male) for “sexual” favours.

    What I take issue with is the fact that name suppression was granted almost immediately and national media have failed to highlight the importance of this incident. How safe are our children with incidents such as this one coming to light?

    Maori crime might well be more identifiable but that doesn’t mean in the slightest that “white-coated” crime is next to non-existent. They’re just better at covering their tracks.

    The school is now fighting to end the name suppression but will obviously meet legal boulders along the way, not to mention the time and money that this legal battle will incur.

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  28. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    Maybe your right and its an age thing Johnboy, but most of the Maori I know would know less about the treaty and its workings than you do, and their sense of entitlement has little to do with being owed by whitey. Most of the older Maori I know pride themselves on their work ethic and the fact they’ve come so far.

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  29. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    Proud people don’t sit around on the dole or dpb producing children they can’t afford to bring up properly and bleat about how the world owes them a living mikey.
    As for the young it is a cruel joke to let them believe that being proficient with a taiaha or dancing a haka is a substitute for a real education. The only country that those skills may help them get a job is NZ. In the real world they are just falling further and further behind the eight ball.
    The bad news is that this attitude has been taken up by our PC educators hence all of NZ’s children are condemned to falling standards of education.

    ps: Never met Allan Duff in my life! :)

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  30. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    Johnboy I know white people who sit around on the dole producing kids they cant afford and I know Maoris who are paid to swing a taiaha and do a haka in London, Ireland and other places in europe. I dont think its that black and white my friend

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  31. big bruv (12,352 comments) says:

    mikeysmokes

    It seems you would rather hamper the police investigation by not giving out any information on the suspect if there is a slight chance he may be Maori.

    A man was murdered for a $20 Taxi fare, yet you seem more concerned about being PC.

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  32. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    “Johnboy I know white people who sit around on the dole producing kids they cant afford ”

    For Gods/G-ds sake don’t bring that up or Phil Ure may come back. Its been bloody good here without him.

    Don’t forget that Sitting Bull performed in Europe in the Buffalo Bill show in 1885 but it did SFA for the rest of the Indians back at the reservation.

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  33. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    Never said that Big bruv, I merely suggested that he could have had brown skin.
    You guys throw this PC thing around like we used to throw double happys on guy fawkes in the good ol days

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  34. big bruv (12,352 comments) says:

    ” I know Maoris who are paid to swing a taiaha and do a haka in London”

    As a full time job, earning a decent wage?

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  35. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    But its true Johnboy, I also know a Maori film maker, some handy athletes and a heavily tattooed chap who recently had a show in france.
    Lets face it Johnboy as HST said “you bought the ticket take the ride” you couldnt kill them all so you signed on the dotted line, you cant renege on a deal now can you bud?

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  36. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    yes Bigbuv as a full time job earning pounds sterling

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  37. big bruv (12,352 comments) says:

    I sense a Tui Billboard in the making.

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  38. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    I was in hospitality fellas and I met and dealt with alot of Maoris, most if not all of them were hardworking, focussed and good team people. If I was to pick a worst ethnicity to have working for me it would easily be white australians and white americans closely followed by south americans who always seemed tired.

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  39. eszett (2,268 comments) says:

    # big bruv (5337) Says:
    February 1st, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    mikeysmokes

    It seems you would rather hamper the police investigation by not giving out any information on the suspect if there is a slight chance he may be Maori.

    A man was murdered for a $20 Taxi fare, yet you seem more concerned about being PC.

    You seem hellbent that the suspect is Maori. Wouldn’t that hamper the police investigation more, if you put out the the suspect is probably Maori, when you don’t really have that information?

    There is nothing pc about the police being open to all avenues and only putting out information that they are certain of.

    You are only trying to create a “pc gone mad” scenario here to feed your own prejudice.

    By the same token, if the suspect were white skinned, the police wouldn’t put out that he is likely to be off British heritage, would they?

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  40. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    Dont worry about billboards Bigbruv, stay vigilante or the PC monster will get you, he is after all lurking around every corner

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  41. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    I wouldn’t let it be known that you know Lee Tamahori mikey.

    I’ve missed the relevance of the handy people and the freak from France.

    I’ve only killed Deer/Goats/Rabbits/Possums/Rats/Cats/Dogs/Flies etc.etc. No Maoris yet.

    I’ve signed a marriage agreement, a few HP documents and many cheques. Please explain re: “Dotted line”?

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  42. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    I guess PC is winning but it well be a hollow victory. I’m old enough to know the difference between reliable and being full of shit and so is 98% of the population. It’s a bit like a pig with lipstick, it’s still the pig and these lefty dropkicks only become more irrelevant everyday.

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  43. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    Dont know tamahori mate he’d be in you and Eyeliner Laws camp wouldnt he?
    Dotted line refers to the contract you signed with the Maori you couldnt kill, the one that you try to renege on, the treaty of waitangi
    And relevance of handy people and a freak showing art in france is that not all Maori are on the dole mate

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  44. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Johnboy, you left out pigs, cows, stock agents, insurance agents, real estate agents and council shit pond inspectors ( top of the list ).

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  45. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    joking about the treaty Johnboy, just trying to wind you up

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  46. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    Maybe in Trevor Rupe’s camp perhaps.

    I don’t recollect ever being called Captain William Hobson in a previous life and I think the Poms really started to try and kill the Maoris AFTER the treaty was signed (around the 1860′s).

    Not all of any race are on the dole pal. Many Maoris just seem to like making a career of it as if it was owed to them somehow.

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  47. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    All assholes to a man bob. I hope none of them are Maoris though cause that would be racist. :)

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  48. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    Trevor Rupe??? must be before my time. Most long term beneficiaries have that outlook Johnboy not just Maori. Plenty of white solo mums in my old neighbourhood too

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  49. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    Never said you were racist either Johnboy, that would make me a PC commie wouldnt it?

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  50. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Ha ha, to true Johnboy. How can you be a racist in NZ ??. I’m a honkey the wife is Maori and the kids are Kiwi, I really don’t know what else you can do to be a grownup.

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  51. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    AKA Carmen–Maori transvestite.

    “Plenty of white solo mums in my old neighbourhood too”.

    You bloody, dirty, lucky bastard. I hope you send all your kids a birthday card even if you have shot through and left their mum’s in the lurch.

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  52. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    Try wearing a bone round your neck bob it seems that the bigger your bone the better you are (or so they tell me).

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  53. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    nope only transvestite I know by name is the old man on the simpsons Michael laws

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  54. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Sorry Johnboy not into that bone wearing shit, most of the good bones are in the freezer, t bones, soup bones, spar ribs etc. But I’m happy if I have a bone between my legs before milking in the morning.

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  55. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/photo/carmen-coffee

    mikey

    Real Wellington character. Stood for mayor once with Bob Jones’s backing. Another chap who liked taking the piss.

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  56. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    A man is truly measured by the size of his bone and his milk production.

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  57. Jim (385 comments) says:

    A Jobcentre Plus worker claimed that the word ”reliable” meant they could be sued for discriminating against unreliable workers.

    Unsurprising. I have friends with a similar story in NZ a couple of years ago. Tried to place a classified ad in NZ Herald for someone to assist in furniture delivery. Were forced to remove the “must be strong” requirement, and told that they must add “youth rates may apply” – in spite of the fact they were intending to pay generously for the right person.

    Result of the diluted advertisement: first applicant was a skinny schoolgirl. When asked if she could lift furniture answered “No.”

    I suppose it is illegal to list intelligence as a requirement too.

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  58. GPT1 (2,042 comments) says:

    Not so sure it is political correctness as militant unionism.

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  59. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Sad isn’t Jim, it seems socialist dick pullers and mad childless woman have decided that the world does not function without stupidity at the helm.

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  60. Rex Widerstrom (5,125 comments) says:

    Yes Sushi Goblin, I did… and it’s worse than that, I “went all the way” in 1992. So yes, I include myself in that… I’ve always said the major disqualification for political office is the desire to seek it (and no, that’s not even an original epithet… I’m just that lazy :p)

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  61. Haiku Dave (273 comments) says:

    a PC gone mad
    post goes all racial on us
    who da thunk it eh?

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  62. willtruth (245 comments) says:

    Great post Eszett! You totally nailed Big Bruv. It is illogical that he is suggesting that the media describe a suspect as Maori even if all we know about him is that he is brown skinned. I note he has gone pretty quiet since your post :)

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  63. libertyscott (355 comments) says:

    It is Thetford of course, which has been blessed (and motorists between civilised Norfolk and London have been blessed more) by the A11 bypassing it.

    Given how it is described here http://www.chavtowns.co.uk/2005/10/thetford/ it perhaps is unsurprising that the Job Centre hires imbeciles and that reliable people are hard to find. It is frankly one of those places that people with aspiration make sure they leave before they are engulfed in the culture of nihilistic mediocrity.

    Fundamentally, it should be up to an employer how to specify a job – if you don’t like it, then don’t apply and campaign for others to boycott the employer. Employers create jobs, nobody is entitled to the jobs or even entitled to be seriously considered.

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  64. Brian Smaller (3,915 comments) says:

    Well my best mate is a Maori, my second best mate who I lunch with each week and game with is a Maori, my kid’s godfather is the first best mate, so I think that I can say, with some honesty, that some of my best friends are Maori.

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  65. Richard Hurst (710 comments) says:

    “I really don’t know whether to laugh or cry.”

    The answer is cry. If I tried laughing at something like that it would just turn into a sob.

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