A punishment fitting the crime

February 28th, 2010 at 11:30 am by David Farrar

news.com.au reports:

THE owner of a goat allegedly raped is demanding the two accused make traditional wedding arrangements.

State media also said the two young men accused of having sex with a goat in central Mozambique faced criminal charges.

The young men, whose names and ages were not released, were caught in the act by police and arrested outside the rural town of Mbucuta in central Mozambique, the website of the state broadcaster said.

“One of the young men was naked and holding the goat’s head, and the other was having sex with the animal,” witness Mario Creva told Radio Mozambique.

District prosecutor Leonides Mapasse said the two would face trial for simple larceny.

The goat’s owner may also file a civil suit against them, he said.

The owner was demanding the young men pay him damages and initiate a traditional wedding ceremony by paying “lobolo,” a dowry, a family member told Radio Mozambique.

Well how’s that for restorative justice, and making the punishment fit the crime? I’m glad that someone is thinking of that goat.

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29 Responses to “A punishment fitting the crime”

  1. David in Chch (448) Says:

    Oh my! How DO you find these sorts of items, DPF? Bizarre!!

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  2. black paul (124) Says:

    He finds them the same way anyone does – by googling “GOAT SEX THREESOME TWO MEN” on a sunday morning. :)

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  3. David in Chch (448) Says:

    Thanks for that, BP! (shudder)

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  4. Redbaiter (13,197) Says:

    “I’m glad that someone is thinking of that goat.”

    There is no proof the goat did not consent.

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  5. Kieran_B (75) Says:

    “Tags: goat sex”

    Made me laugh on a hungover Sunday.

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  6. Brian (Shadowfoot) (76) Says:

    So it’s true. After gay marriage is allowed then people want to marry their pets.

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  7. Pete George (17,596) Says:

    Deja vu? Didn’t something like this come up a couple of months ago?

    Thought so: http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/01/kiwiblogs_2009_stats.html

    Weird.

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  8. Nomestradamus (2,391) Says:

    This blog post is pretty revealing:

    Kiwiblog’s 2009 Stats

    Top search terms that includes sex used to find Kiwiblog:

    1.group sex video 681
    2.sex shop k road auckland 412
    3.animal sex 213
    4.casual sex 176
    5.bridget saunders sex 157
    6.goat sex 149
    7.banned sex videos 129
    8.more on green sex for votes plan 126
    9.comedian charged with committing a sexual offence 112
    10.sex 106

    So DPF is qiute possibly thinking ahead to his 2010 blog stats :)

    As an aside, it was also interesting to note that Phil Ure was the 7th most popular search term last year – at 3900 searches! At least he wasn’t part of a sex search term!

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  9. peterwn (2,165) Says:

    In NZ this is a crime punishable by three years jail. Consent by the anmimal is irrevelant.

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  10. Dirty Rat (504) Says:

    Was it a spitroast ?

    I agree peterwn, this horrible crime is punishable by three years jail, except in Canterbury, where the locals are expected to Divorce their sisters and carry out the Mozambique option ( lobolo included).

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  11. Falafulu Fisi (2,168) Says:

    The question to ask is, who owns the animal/s ?

    LibertyScott has an excellent explanation?

    Dutch ban bestiality

    Read about scott’s insightful logic & reason to understand about property rights.

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  12. Pauleastbay (3,726) Says:

    But will the goat get name suppression if this was a consensual act?

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  13. Pauleastbay (3,726) Says:

    Dirty Rat

    re: Except In Canterbury

    In Christchurch if your parents divorce are they still brother and sister though?

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  14. toad (3,545) Says:

    black paul said: “He finds them the same way anyone does – by googling “GOAT SEX THREESOME TWO MEN” on a sunday morning.

    More likely by having an Alert that emails DPF about anything that ever gets posted on a news site about “goat sex”.

    I wonder why? Do you have an ex named “Billie”, perchance, DPF?

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  15. toad (3,545) Says:

    @Falafulu Fisi 3:29 pm

    I’ve just been to the link you provided to libertyscott’s blog:

    If it is your animal or you have the owner’s permission, you can do with it as you see fit, but not inflict cruelty or wanton neglect.

    That’s like the old law that allowed men to rape their wives because their wives were their property – a very bad look. Because animals are incapable of communicating in human languages, animals cannot give consent for sexual activity. And for the same reason, we cannot know how the animal actually feels about it.

    End of story – it is abuse.

    There is a strong case for penalties being reviewed though: – You can get 7 years in prison for fucking a goat, but only 3 years for starving or beating it to death. That seems a bit arse-about-face to me.

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  16. MT_Tinman (2,227) Says:

    Dirty Rat (239) Says:
    February 28th, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    Was it a spitroast ?

    I agree peterwn, this horrible crime is punishable by three years jail, except in Canterbury, where the locals are expected to Divorce their sisters and carry out the Mozambique option ( lobolo included).

    No, no Rat, that’s just NI visitors who are beaten to the Sheep by Cambridgeites.

    There is no punishment for Cantabrians as there is no need for such.

    The goat keeps asking after you. Just what did you promise it?

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  17. Rex Widerstrom (4,965) Says:

    All joking aside, it is restorative justice. The goat’s owner gets compensated whereas under our puritanical system he’d have got nothing while the two men were sent to prison at the taxpayer’s expense.

    I know if someone molested my goat, or stole my car, or defaced my property, or basically committed any crime that didn’t involve violence, I’d much rather them put to work to compensate me rather than being told I had to provide for their food and lodging for a few years.

    Perhaps we can swap Simon Power and Judith Collins for their opposite numbers in Mozambique…

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  18. jaba (1,920) Says:

    I’m just hopeful they were practicing safe sex and were using condoms

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  19. Put it away (2,887) Says:

    Weird, I wouldn’t expect goat bothering to be a two-man activity. I wonder how the conversation went when the one who thought this up broached the subject with his buddy ?

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  20. Steve (3,644) Says:

    Well Goats are easy.
    Nine out of ten men who have tried Camels, prefer Women

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  21. jaba (1,920) Says:

    unless they are male Labour MP’s of course

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  22. Paul Marsden (801) Says:

    If you’re acting the goat, then you should be prepared for the consequences.

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  23. Luc Hansen (4,573) Says:

    The posting by DPF of this so-called news item is indicative of default racism.

    I remember a case a few years ago of a Canterbury guy fined for sex with a rabbit. Don’t ask me the details, I can’t remember, but my son who works in Melbourne took great delight in apprising me of the details. Yuk!

    But I suppose it’s less newsworthy when it’s Europeans involved!

    [DPF: I love it when people see racism a anywhere. If you bothered to check you will find I have covered extensively the proclivities of certain Nelsonians with local goats and also of the Kiwi in Sydney with the parrots]

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  24. Graeme Edgeler (2,909) Says:

    In NZ this is a crime punishable by three years jail

    Actually, that’s seven years’ jail.

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  25. Luc Hansen (4,573) Says:

    [DPF: I love it when people see racism a anywhere. If you bothered to check you will find I have covered extensively the proclivities of certain Nelsonians with local goats and also of the Kiwi in Sydney with the parrots]

    Good for you.

    So how do you define your slavish support for Israel over the rights of the indigenous people of Palestine?

    Non racist?

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  26. Sonny Blount (1,753) Says:

    support for Israel over the rights of the indigenous people of Palestine?

    Jews have been in Israel much, much longer than Maoris have been in NZ. What do you mean by indigenous?

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  27. Luc Hansen (4,573) Says:

    Indigenous people are defined as the first inhabitants.

    The original Jews in Palestine, long, long before they were called Jews, a Catholic invention, were simply indigenous ie Palestinian adherents to Judaism, the then new-fangled religion to supplant paganism.

    The new kid on the block, so to speak.

    Maori are indigenous. European Jews in Palestine are not.

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  28. Barnsley Bill (855) Says:

    This post and associated tag is the clearest sign yet that david is looking over his shoulder in the blog stats.
    Well done sir.

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  29. James (1,338) Says:

    “That’s like the old law that allowed men to rape their wives because their wives were their property – a very bad look.”

    Wrong….humans have rights…the violation of which is what constitutes a crime.Animals do not have rights so fucking one can’t be a crime.If its owned by someone else who doesn’t consent to the activity then there is a crime but its a property crime.

    “Because animals are incapable of communicating in human languages, animals cannot give consent for sexual activity. And for the same reason, we cannot know how the animal actually feels about it.”

    Judging by whats on the net it seems they like it just fine.Dogs seem to willingly mount those sick slappers who are into that sort of thing.

    “End of story – it is abuse.”

    Not always it seems…..eugghhh!

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