Bid for the Key Flag

February 8th, 2010 at 5:55 pm by David Farrar

TVNZ have just put out a PR saying:

Prime Minister, John Key was asked to draw his version of an alternative by TVNZ’s Pippa Wetzell on Breakfast at 7:15am this morning.

By the time the programme went off-air at 9am, TVNZ had received many pledges of money for the A4 sized doodle, the highest being $1000.  Mr Key gave his consent for the drawing to be auctioned for charity and it has been listed on Trade Me this afternoon with all proceeds going to the children’s charity, Cure Kids.

Mr Key described his drawing as a “silver fern”.  Pippa Wetzell described it, perhaps more accurately, as a “lop-sided Christmas tree”.

I have to say Pippa has the more accurate description. But at least John drew it himself!

The interview Breakfast interview is above. Will be nice if bit of fun during a TV interview can raise some money for charity.

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38 Responses to “Bid for the Key Flag”

  1. Tim Ellis (253 comments) says:

    How do we know really that Mr Key drew this? New Zealand has a history of Prime Ministers signing art works they didn’t do themselves. It looks like Mr Key doing the picture, but how do we know it isn’t a stand-in?

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  2. Steve (4,524 comments) says:

    Drew it himself and signed it!!

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  3. KiwiGreg (3,224 comments) says:

    I see he has tried to copyright it or at least alledge (sp?) copyright. This is a worse constitutional breech than Hawawira.

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  4. adc (582 comments) says:

    if he drew it, and didn’t copy anything, he does own the copyright.

    But to me it looks like a pine tree in the wind… he shouldn’t give up his day-job

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  5. KiwiGreg (3,224 comments) says:

    @ adc yeah I know, I’m not being serious.

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  6. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    if he drew it, and didn’t copy anything, he does own the copyright.

    But to me it looks like a pine tree in the wind… he shouldn’t give up his day-job

    I’m trying to imagine the first draft of the Mona Lisa……

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  7. adc (582 comments) says:

    heh.. probably would look like that copyright symbol…. with a couple sticks out the bottom

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  8. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Bruce Farr will be filling his pants.

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  9. Inventory2 (10,181 comments) says:

    Tim Ellis – watch the video – the copyright symbol at the foot was a stroke of genius, in view of past events you refer to :-)

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  10. Kimble (4,415 comments) says:

    mmmm Dorritos

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  11. Michaels (1,318 comments) says:

    A nice little touch the “c”

    dig dig oink oink

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  12. maurieo (95 comments) says:

    As a paid employee of the people of New Zealand can he claim copyright given that he did it as part of his job. We the people of NZ own the intellectual property as we paid him to do it? Or was he moonlighting. I would go for a flag with a Kiwi on it rather than a silver fern, the Kiwi is a more recognisable and unique symbol of NZ found only in NZ and much easier to spell.

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  13. Michaels (1,318 comments) says:

    Lighten up maurieo

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  14. Steve (4,524 comments) says:

    Um Maurieo, if you need spelling lessons that is your problem for not learning.
    Why not have a flag with black background and white font “NZ”
    No spelling involved, no symbols, no nothing; then even the stupid will know the “NZ” flag is New Zealand.
    You are one of the reasons people pay so much TAX maurieo, you drag out a simple thing which should be done by the voters, into litigation of Intellectual Property.
    Get a real job.

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  15. burt (8,035 comments) says:

    maurieo

    Relax, if there is a problem with the copyright then it will just be burnt to ensure there isn’t a court case and we will hear John Key say the famous “Move on”.

    (Translation for “Move on”: I’m above the law and you can f##k off ! )

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  16. Pete George (23,345 comments) says:

    the Kiwi is a more recognisable and unique symbol of NZ

    Is it? I was talking to an American who thought a kiwi was a small furry fruit, they were surprised to hear it was also a weird bird.

    Most people won’t know what the fern or kiwi or whatever we end up with stands for. But it will be a distinctive flag that will be become recognisable by a lot more people than the current one.

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  17. Steve (4,524 comments) says:

    side show bob,

    The ghost of Conner has returned huh?

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  18. Steve (4,524 comments) says:

    Pete,
    Small furry fruit is correct, except he is overseas on a junket

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  19. Fale Andrew Lesa (473 comments) says:

    I find it rather indecorous for the Prime Minister to originally state (quite clearly) that the movement towards NZ Republicanism wasn’t considered urgent or important for his particular administration, at this particular time…

    and yet he seems more than happy to indicate to the press his preferred flag design: on prime time national television.

    This is obviously more ammunition for those who argue that John Key is a puppet Prime Minister who will flow easily with popular public opinion, even if it shows leadership inconsistency, a lack of direction and clarity but more importantly the lack of great leadership in our very own prime minister.

    Furthermore, he will do and/or say anything for public approval, regardless of what the truth might actually reveal.

    Another grim day for NZ Politics, certainly not the first nor will it be the last.

    [DPF: Oh you really need to lighten up. Sketching a doodle when challenged to do so is hardly launching a campaign]

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  20. Steve (4,524 comments) says:

    So JK is not allowed to say which flag he would like?
    He is Prime Minister so his personal preference of a flag is judged?
    John Key can not vote on a flag issue?
    Who are you Fale Andrew Lesa to say John Key can not voice his own opinion?
    Stick it where the global warming sun don’t shine Andy

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  21. Fletch (6,151 comments) says:

    Re: the flag – anyone see the cartoon in today’s Herald? :)

    I think he hits it right on the head. It’s like we’re ashamed of ‘Mother” Britain (or at least some others of you are).

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  22. Fale Andrew Lesa (473 comments) says:

    Steve,

    I’m not sure if you realize this but changing the NZ Flag is in fact one of the earlier steps in favour of Republicanism, it is often an indication of support for being a Republic.

    It might be his own personal opinion but he is also leader of an administration that has shown reluctance towards Republicanism and also serves the NZ Constituency as Prime Minister, a constituency that hasn’t been given an opportunity to voice its opinion on the matter as of yet.

    Its a bit like opposing Maori Sovereignty but providing your preferred structure for it to exist under, it just seems rather indecorous to me.

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  23. Pipkin (9 comments) says:

    That was a great cartoon Fletch.

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  24. adc (582 comments) says:

    how about a rugby ball, cut open to reveal a kiwi-fruit center?

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  25. Guy Fawkes (702 comments) says:

    Surely Helen should be invited to submit her design?

    It is only fair given her Artistic prowess, and she still owns the Labour Party.

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  26. Robert Black (423 comments) says:

    The PM is absolutely right.

    When I saw the example of the black flag with the silver fern my heart rate shot up and I almost shed a tear all the way from Beijing.

    And as you know I am not the proudest of Kiwis these days.

    The bleeting sheep country is culturally doomed.

    So there is no way there is going to be a great flag for the country.

    It was a nice idea though, wasn’t it?

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  27. Pete George (23,345 comments) says:

    It’s like we’re ashamed of ‘Mother” Britain (or at least some others of you are).

    If you like the current flag how would you now how some others feel about it? Britain is our past not our present. I don’t feel ashamed, just don’t see the need to cling to the past.

    Britain has gotten over Rome and the Angles and Saxons and Jutes and France and doesn’t feel a need to represent any of them on it’s flag.

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  28. MT_Tinman (3,054 comments) says:

    Having given this some consideration I think the National Party should bid and obtain this drawing.

    A tree bending with the breeze is the perfect representation of that party’s proven attributes.

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  29. tvb (4,255 comments) says:

    And Helen Clark signs her name in secret on someone else’s work and then one of her enthusiastic supporters destroys it while a police investigation is underway. John Key is a genius politician compared to all that. And the Labour Party and their bitter supporters know it.

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  30. Matt Long (89 comments) says:

    Can we bid on one signed by Helen? I love Helen Clark originals

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  31. Richard Hurst (797 comments) says:

    Its a pine tree blowing in a Canterbury Nor-wester wind isn’t it?

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  32. MikeNZ (3,234 comments) says:

    black flag with fern on it or white flag with same but in black for sports.
    still think our two islands on the flag is great.

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  33. Fletch (6,151 comments) says:

    If you like the current flag how would you now how some others feel about it? Britain is our past not our present.

    Then perhaps we should replace the Union Jack with the yellow stars and red field of the Chinese flag; we’re more tied up with China now than with the US and Britain with regard to free trade agreements and such. China is also ” look[ing] to acquire assets in the Australasian resources and food sectors, market sources say.” (the Chelsea sugar works etc).

    I wonder how long it is before we don’t own anything in this country.

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  34. KiwiGreg (3,224 comments) says:

    “I wonder how long it is before we don’t own anything in this country.”

    Well as long as we keep spending more than we earn it will happen. Note Chelsea sugar works is already foreign-owned so dont worry about that.

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  35. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    “I love Helen Clark originals”

    Hard to find any though Matt due to their rarity. :)

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  36. kowtow (7,953 comments) says:

    Silver fern flag is OK as a sports flag/ national symbol.Lots of places do that :thistle ,rose,shamrock,leek.

    The national flag is a different issue ,keep it that way and keep it the same.

    There’s no need for a change.

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  37. Paulus (2,565 comments) says:

    Pippa Wetzell is much prettier than JK.

    So put Silver Fern under Union Jack – that will satisfy anyone who cannot indentify with the Aussie flag

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  38. John Ansell (874 comments) says:

    Good that John backs the fern.

    Now vote on which fern: http://johnansell.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/fern-favourite-but-which-fern/

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