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		<title>By: John Ansell</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659882</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good that John backs the fern. 

Now vote on which fern: http://johnansell.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/fern-favourite-but-which-fern/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good that John backs the fern. </p>
<p>Now vote on which fern: <a href="http://johnansell.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/fern-favourite-but-which-fern/" rel="nofollow">http://johnansell.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/fern-favourite-but-which-fern/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paulus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pippa Wetzell is much prettier than JK.

So put Silver Fern under Union Jack - that will satisfy anyone who cannot indentify with the Aussie flag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pippa Wetzell is much prettier than JK.</p>
<p>So put Silver Fern under Union Jack &#8211; that will satisfy anyone who cannot indentify with the Aussie flag</p>
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		<title>By: kowtow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659486</link>
		<dc:creator>kowtow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silver fern flag is OK as a sports flag/ national symbol.Lots of places do that :thistle ,rose,shamrock,leek.

The national flag is a different issue ,keep it that way and keep it the same.

There&#039;s no need for a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silver fern flag is OK as a sports flag/ national symbol.Lots of places do that :thistle ,rose,shamrock,leek.</p>
<p>The national flag is a different issue ,keep it that way and keep it the same.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no need for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659480</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I love Helen Clark originals&quot;

Hard to find any though Matt due to their rarity. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I love Helen Clark originals&#8221;</p>
<p>Hard to find any though Matt due to their rarity. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: KiwiGreg</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659478</link>
		<dc:creator>KiwiGreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I wonder how long it is before we don’t own anything in this country.&quot;

Well as long as we keep spending more than we earn it will happen.  Note Chelsea sugar works is already foreign-owned so dont worry about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wonder how long it is before we don’t own anything in this country.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well as long as we keep spending more than we earn it will happen.  Note Chelsea sugar works is already foreign-owned so dont worry about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Fletch</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659477</link>
		<dc:creator>Fletch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you like the current flag how would you now how some others feel about it? Britain is our past not our present. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then perhaps we should replace the Union Jack with the yellow stars and red field of the Chinese flag; we&#039;re more tied up with China now than with the US and Britain with regard to free trade agreements and such. China is also &quot; look[ing] to acquire assets in the Australasian resources and food sectors, market sources say.&quot; (the Chelsea sugar works etc). 

I wonder how long it is before we don&#039;t own anything in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you like the current flag how would you now how some others feel about it? Britain is our past not our present. </p></blockquote>
<p>Then perhaps we should replace the Union Jack with the yellow stars and red field of the Chinese flag; we&#8217;re more tied up with China now than with the US and Britain with regard to free trade agreements and such. China is also &#8221; look[ing] to acquire assets in the Australasian resources and food sectors, market sources say.&#8221; (the Chelsea sugar works etc). </p>
<p>I wonder how long it is before we don&#8217;t own anything in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeNZ</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659438</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeNZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>black flag with fern on it or white flag with same but in black for sports.
still think our two islands on the flag is great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>black flag with fern on it or white flag with same but in black for sports.<br />
still think our two islands on the flag is great.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Hurst</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659429</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a pine tree blowing in a Canterbury Nor-wester wind isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a pine tree blowing in a Canterbury Nor-wester wind isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Long</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659427</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we bid on one signed by Helen? I love Helen Clark originals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we bid on one signed by Helen? I love Helen Clark originals</p>
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		<title>By: tvb</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659424</link>
		<dc:creator>tvb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Helen Clark signs her name in secret on someone else&#039;s work and then one of her enthusiastic supporters destroys it while a police investigation is underway.  John Key is a genius politician compared to all that.  And the Labour Party and their bitter supporters know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Helen Clark signs her name in secret on someone else&#8217;s work and then one of her enthusiastic supporters destroys it while a police investigation is underway.  John Key is a genius politician compared to all that.  And the Labour Party and their bitter supporters know it.</p>
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		<title>By: MT_Tinman</title>
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		<dc:creator>MT_Tinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having given this some consideration I think the National Party should bid and obtain this drawing.

A tree bending with the breeze is the perfect representation of that party&#039;s proven attributes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having given this some consideration I think the National Party should bid and obtain this drawing.</p>
<p>A tree bending with the breeze is the perfect representation of that party&#8217;s proven attributes.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete George</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659400</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s like we’re ashamed of ‘Mother” Britain (or at least some others of you are).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you like the current flag how would you now how some others feel about it? Britain is our past not our present. I don&#039;t feel ashamed, just don&#039;t see the need to cling to the past.

Britain has gotten over Rome and the Angles and Saxons and Jutes and France and doesn&#039;t feel a need to represent any of them on it&#039;s flag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s like we’re ashamed of ‘Mother” Britain (or at least some others of you are).</p></blockquote>
<p>If you like the current flag how would you now how some others feel about it? Britain is our past not our present. I don&#8217;t feel ashamed, just don&#8217;t see the need to cling to the past.</p>
<p>Britain has gotten over Rome and the Angles and Saxons and Jutes and France and doesn&#8217;t feel a need to represent any of them on it&#8217;s flag.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Black</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659398</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PM is absolutely right.

When I saw the example of the black flag with the silver fern my heart rate shot up and I almost shed a tear all the way from Beijing.

And as you know I am not the proudest of Kiwis these days.

The bleeting sheep country is culturally doomed.

So there is no way there is going to be a great flag for the country.


It was a nice idea though, wasn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PM is absolutely right.</p>
<p>When I saw the example of the black flag with the silver fern my heart rate shot up and I almost shed a tear all the way from Beijing.</p>
<p>And as you know I am not the proudest of Kiwis these days.</p>
<p>The bleeting sheep country is culturally doomed.</p>
<p>So there is no way there is going to be a great flag for the country.</p>
<p>It was a nice idea though, wasn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Fawkes</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659392</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely Helen should be invited to submit her design?

It is only fair given her Artistic prowess, and she still owns the Labour Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely Helen should be invited to submit her design?</p>
<p>It is only fair given her Artistic prowess, and she still owns the Labour Party.</p>
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		<title>By: adc</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659389</link>
		<dc:creator>adc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about a rugby ball, cut open to reveal a kiwi-fruit center?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about a rugby ball, cut open to reveal a kiwi-fruit center?</p>
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		<title>By: Pipkin</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659386</link>
		<dc:creator>Pipkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a great cartoon Fletch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a great cartoon Fletch.</p>
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		<title>By: Fale Andrew Lesa</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659369</link>
		<dc:creator>Fale Andrew Lesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I&#039;m not sure if you realize this but changing the NZ Flag is in fact one of the earlier steps in favour of Republicanism, it is often an indication of support for being a Republic.


It might be his own personal opinion but he is also leader of an administration that has shown reluctance towards Republicanism and also serves the NZ Constituency as Prime Minister, a constituency that hasn&#039;t been given an opportunity to voice its opinion on the matter as of yet.

Its a bit like opposing Maori Sovereignty but providing your preferred structure for it to exist under, it just seems rather indecorous to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if you realize this but changing the NZ Flag is in fact one of the earlier steps in favour of Republicanism, it is often an indication of support for being a Republic.</p>
<p>It might be his own personal opinion but he is also leader of an administration that has shown reluctance towards Republicanism and also serves the NZ Constituency as Prime Minister, a constituency that hasn&#8217;t been given an opportunity to voice its opinion on the matter as of yet.</p>
<p>Its a bit like opposing Maori Sovereignty but providing your preferred structure for it to exist under, it just seems rather indecorous to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Fletch</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/02/bid_for_the_key_flag.html#comment-659366</link>
		<dc:creator>Fletch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: the flag - anyone see the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nzherald.co.nz/news-cartoons/news/article.cfm?c_id=500814&amp;objectid=10624747&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cartoon&lt;/a&gt; in today&#039;s Herald? :)

I think he hits it right on the head. It&#039;s like we&#039;re ashamed of &#039;Mother&quot; Britain (or at least some others of you are).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the flag &#8211; anyone see the <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/news-cartoons/news/article.cfm?c_id=500814&amp;objectid=10624747" rel="nofollow">cartoon</a> in today&#8217;s Herald? <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think he hits it right on the head. It&#8217;s like we&#8217;re ashamed of &#8216;Mother&#8221; Britain (or at least some others of you are).</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So JK is not allowed to say which flag he would like?
He is Prime Minister so his personal preference of a flag is judged?
John Key can not vote on a flag issue?
Who are you Fale Andrew Lesa to say John Key can not voice his own opinion?
Stick it where the global warming sun don&#039;t shine Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So JK is not allowed to say which flag he would like?<br />
He is Prime Minister so his personal preference of a flag is judged?<br />
John Key can not vote on a flag issue?<br />
Who are you Fale Andrew Lesa to say John Key can not voice his own opinion?<br />
Stick it where the global warming sun don&#8217;t shine Andy</p>
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		<title>By: Fale Andrew Lesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fale Andrew Lesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it rather indecorous for the Prime Minister to originally state (quite clearly) that the movement towards NZ Republicanism wasn&#039;t considered urgent or important for his particular administration, at this particular time... 


and yet he seems more than happy to indicate to the press his preferred flag design: on prime time national television.




This is obviously more ammunition for those who argue that John Key is a puppet Prime Minister who will flow easily with popular public opinion, even if it shows leadership inconsistency, a lack of direction and clarity but more importantly the lack of great leadership in our very own prime minister.

Furthermore, he will do and/or say anything for public approval, regardless of what the truth might actually reveal.


Another grim day for NZ Politics, certainly not the first nor will it be the last.

[DPF: Oh you really need to lighten up. Sketching a doodle when challenged to do so is hardly launching a campaign]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it rather indecorous for the Prime Minister to originally state (quite clearly) that the movement towards NZ Republicanism wasn&#8217;t considered urgent or important for his particular administration, at this particular time&#8230; </p>
<p>and yet he seems more than happy to indicate to the press his preferred flag design: on prime time national television.</p>
<p>This is obviously more ammunition for those who argue that John Key is a puppet Prime Minister who will flow easily with popular public opinion, even if it shows leadership inconsistency, a lack of direction and clarity but more importantly the lack of great leadership in our very own prime minister.</p>
<p>Furthermore, he will do and/or say anything for public approval, regardless of what the truth might actually reveal.</p>
<p>Another grim day for NZ Politics, certainly not the first nor will it be the last.</p>
<p>[DPF: Oh you really need to lighten up. Sketching a doodle when challenged to do so is hardly launching a campaign]</p>
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