Finally a parent against national standards

March 15th, 2010 at 7:33 pm by David Farrar

The Wanganui Chronicle reports:

Parent said the new standards were totally untried  and had been developed in  three months without involvement from the community and teachers.

By pure coincidence a Stephanie Mills is the NZEI Communications Director.

Do you suppose they could be the same person?

And why then does the not mention this rather pertinent fact? Were they not told, or did they just think the public don’t need to know?

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30 Responses to “Finally a parent against national standards”

  1. LeftRightOut (622 comments) says:

    Could be, but are they?

    And, if so, so what? Does that negate her being a parent and having an opinion as a parent?

    And why do you need to resort to misleading headlines? She is most certainly not the only parent opposed to National’s lack of stanards in education as 500 signatures in 2 hours shows.

    [DPF: It would be like interviewing Roger Kerr on employment law and describing him as an employee]

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  2. Put it away (2,872 comments) says:

    The greenpeace moustache lady was also called Stephanie Mills, could they be one and the same ?

    http://www.nationalstandards.org.nz/photo/bus-trip-auckland-091?xg_source=activity
    http://file.stuff.co.nz/1237929303/068/2290068.jpg

    I wouldn’t say the resemblence is 100% conclusive, but it looks prettly likely

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  3. Patrick Starr (3,674 comments) says:

    same colour hair (and keeps similar company)

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  4. RKBee (1,344 comments) says:

    This sort of thing goes on all the time in NZ… We are just too small in population to get truly independent reviews. Every body knows somebody.
    Most of our professionals work for or are associated in same way .. In this case the association is the wife of someone who works for the NZEI.
    It is all to easy in NZ to sway public perception by setting up someone in favor of ones motive or goals
    When there is no real professional cross checking or proper independent reviewers.
    Hoodwinking the media is not that hard.
    Especially a small provincial town like Wanganui.. Look at Micheal Laws.
    I would not be surprised if the national papers dont now pick this story up and run with it, without doing their homework.

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  5. Inventory2 (9,380 comments) says:

    It’s a moustache on a lady!

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  6. Put it away (2,872 comments) says:

    So what are we to conclude from this story. From a sample of 1 professional lobbyist employed by the NZEI to campaign against the National Standards, 100% are against the national standards ? LOL.

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  7. Steve (4,536 comments) says:

    Does anyone care about the mo? The important thing is Green bullshit pumped into children at school.
    NZEI Communications Director. Does that not scare you far more than the hair? Hormone imbalance big deal.
    She is one of the people who pump AGW into the minds of children.

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  8. Rex Widerstrom (5,013 comments) says:

    You expect in-depth journalism from the Wanganui Chronicle?! The same newspaper that’s uncritically printed every utterance made by their Mad Mayor over the years (including his own polling on just how wonderful he is)? That uncritically prints the plans for the newest white elephant without ever questioning the cost? That attends meet-the-candidates meetings and then writes articles about how rude people were because they dared ask questions?!

    The Wanganui Chronicle regularly runs stuff without any fact checking… all Ms Mills would need to do to convince them of AGW would be to sneak in in June and turn up the editor’s radiator.

    It ain’t called the Chronic for nothing, you know.

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  9. ben (2,279 comments) says:

    Inventory stole my line!

    Did you get the t-shirt too?

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  10. TripeWryter (716 comments) says:

    Rex:

    The Chronicle would not be alone in running stuff from the Greens and Greenpeace without checking and rechecking. It has been going on for more than 20 years. I have always been amazed at how Greenpeace has got away with it

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  11. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    http://file.stuff.co.nz/1237929303/068/2290068.jpg

    Aha!

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  12. PaulL (5,449 comments) says:

    500 signatures in 2 hours. Got a copy of the question?

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  13. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    Yeah, and given the jackup “parents” who have been in Tolley’s meetings, and dodgy surveys with ludicrously low response levels promoted by the Nat supporting President of the NZSTA, I would say the propaganda score is 2-1 to NZEI.

    Tolley’s policy is untrialled ideological bullshit that resembles “national standards” programmes that have been implemented overseas and are now being rejected overseas. So a yellow card for Tolley, and I suspect she is not far from a red card.

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  14. Michael (913 comments) says:

    Toad – that’s a fail for you. Contradicting yourself in your own arguement:

    “Untried” then “resembles … programmes that have been implemented overseas” in the same sentence. Mixing up your slogans a bit there.

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  15. kD (12 comments) says:

    Cue strange rant from Redbaiter re communist infiltration of all forms of media

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  16. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    @Michael 10:15 pm

    Untrialled (not untried). Your FAIL – you didn’t even quote me accurately! Although I probably should have said “untrialled in New Zealand”, given that a one-size-fits all approach across various cultures and countries is bound to fail.

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  17. PaulL (5,449 comments) says:

    toad, if it is different in every country (and therefore needs a local trial) then it is irrelevant if it resembles national standards programmes that have been rejected overseas. Your argument is still self contradicting.

    Explain again exactly what is wrong with national standards? If we have no measures, we have no way to know where problems lie, and no way to improve.

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  18. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    Frogboy, your days of indoctrinating children are over. It’s a pity the Gweentards can’t accept it and annihilate themselves.

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  19. francis (617 comments) says:

    Gotta say I’ve never seen before the idea that everything about NZ is so unique that everything we do must be invented from scratch just to fit. New Zealand is a totally bespoke setting! How … green, how … pure!

    I know. Let’s just keep on doing what we’re doing. Because it works so well. Maybe in another ten year’s time, it’ll be 30% of the kids leaving school who can’t really read, write or do basic maths. Now THAT would be unique, at least among developed countries.

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  20. Tim Ellis (251 comments) says:

    This “trial” argument from NZEI and Labour really is a nonsense.

    The last labour government didn’t “trial” its tax increases before forcing them on the economy. The last labour government didn’t “trial” Working for Families. They didn’t “trial” the anti-smacking legislation.

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  21. Murray (8,803 comments) says:

    Yeah i only got has far as “Parent Stephanie Mills”.

    That told me everything I needed know. Just like that other great “parent” Sue Bradford.

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  22. GMDI (70 comments) says:

    classic, this from toad “given that a one-size-fits all approach across various cultures and countries is bound to fail.”

    and yet the green movement has only one answer to the totally untrialled and unrpoven agw policy worldwide.

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  23. jcuknz (689 comments) says:

    How would “a parent” know anything about the matter. Last I read from overseas was that President Obama was going to clean up the American educational system and have a ‘national standard’. It seems sensible people everywhere want it.

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  24. jcuknz (689 comments) says:

    These brilliant educationalists who know what is right and the public don’t … they for years had a national standard that failed 50% of the kids simply becuase they thought 50% of the population was dumb .. remember School Cert?

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  25. Murray (8,803 comments) says:

    Since when did 50% of kids sitting school cert fail it jcuknz? Go check your stats… or are you an NCEA success story? Pronounced fairy tale.

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  26. MT_Tinman (3,317 comments) says:

    jcuknz (369) Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 8:57 am

    These brilliant educationalists who know what is right and the public don’t … they for years had a national standard that failed 50% of the kids simply becuase they thought 50% of the population was dumb .. remember School Cert?

    Of course, you omit the one fact …. as an (now ex thank the gods) employer who employed young people and who needed people with ability rather than just intelligence I can assure you that School Cert worked very well.

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  27. burt (7,425 comments) says:

    If we can’t measure it we can’t manage it. Why do these self serving muppets continue to place the opportunity of an easy life for the teachers and administrators ahead of the quality of education we provide for our children?

    A simple question; if all education was provided by private enterprise funded by public money would we allow the private providers to each operate according to their own interpretation of the standards ?

    The only difference between having private provision and public provision is that under private provision we would be concerned that the individual operators are accountable for how they spend public money. This same concern should be equally applied to public provision.

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  28. mpledger (425 comments) says:

    My two points were that
    1) this won’t improve educational standards – The “no child left behind” policy (national standards plus testing) hasn’t raised standards in America – just dumbed down teaching.
    2) this won’t measure educational standards.

    If you want to measure something then you have to measure it right.

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