General Debate 15 March 2010

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Angus

“Those new anti-psychotics take a while to kick in – but they will help”

Well, you’d know. You leg humping ‘lil nonce.
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March 15, 2010 3:15pm
philu

aarrgghh..!!..harry connick jnr..michael bubble..

all you need to add are that guy with the huge hooter..bolton..

and that caterwauling over-actor..whitney housten..

and you’d have a version of musical hell..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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March 15, 2010 3:16pm
Inventory2

Philip Ure asked

r u a wages-clerk..?

No Phil; I’m a business owner, and immensely proud to be so. In three and a half years we have gone from employing three staff to 25; I guess we’re doing something right.
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March 15, 2010 3:17pm
philu

what area of endevour are you in..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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March 15, 2010 3:21pm
malcolm

Yeah it was a great evening, Mike. Lucien Barbarin is mesmerising.

Well, you’d know. You leg humping ‘lil nonce.

Angus, you’ve only got two weeks to perfect your Redbaiter routine – you’ll need to try harder than that.
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March 15, 2010 3:22pm
philu

now..what have been the ‘growth-industries’ over the last three years..?

..that would explain such a leap in staff numbers..?

are you in the debt-collection/loan-sharking/pawn-shop ‘business’..?

..or any of its’ affiliates..?

y’know..!

those who prosper/profit from the misery of others..?

are you one of them..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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March 15, 2010 3:39pm
Inventory2

I’d love to be able to say that we’re contractors to MSD Phil; getting people into work and off benefits. But I prefer to tell the truth 🙂
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March 15, 2010 3:51pm
philu

which is..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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March 15, 2010 4:23pm
philu

farrar has (unexplained) flooding problems in his apartment..(oo-err..!..)

this could explain..y’know..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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March 15, 2010 4:28pm
MT_Tinman

Pete George (4210) Says:
March 15th, 2010 at 2:51 pm

It sounds like you want people to hate her (to fit your frothy rants?), but who has said they do?

I have no reason to hate Palin, or Paris Hilton. The media gives them both plenty of attention, but I hope Americans have enough sense not to vote either in as president.

Paris would be great.
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March 15, 2010 4:29pm
Murray

Hey phool gob off me again will you. I like to watch those demerits add up.
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March 15, 2010 4:30pm
MT_Tinman

Pete George (4211) Says:
March 15th, 2010 at 9:24 am

I don’t see the point Dave. Isn’t it just an opposite bandwagon you are trying to get rolling?

I’d like an earth hour every clear night, the night sky is amazing when you are away from all our light pollution. I love the secluded spot where I live, the worst aspect is a street light that no one else needs and we don’t want – we are the last ones on our street and would rather have darkness when it is dark.

Pete, was earth hour about just enjoying the planet and it’s skies I’d agree.

It ain’t!

It isn’t even about “saving” the planet, it’s about a small group of fuckwits demanding that their way is best and all people bow to their “expertise”.
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March 15, 2010 4:34pm
philu

“..Hey phool gob off me again will you…”

you must be thinking of that other ‘phil’ you must know..

eh..?

does he do the ‘grown-ups-playing-dress-ups’ thing with you..?

that other ‘phil..?

do you ‘gob’ each other..?

is that like the navy-bunk-practice of ‘snorkling’..?

weren’t you ‘in the military’..?

you’d know..!..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)

[DPF: 20 demerits]
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March 15, 2010 4:38pm
philu

so..inventory..

your silence just leads one to the conclusion..

that you are involved in/make money from..

..vulture-capitalism..?

..eh..?

that’s been the real growth industry of the last three years..eh..?

(i understand why you won’t/can’t use yr real name..eh..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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March 15, 2010 5:47pm
dad4justice

Demerits are UNFAIR in a socialist haven. Can’t we call a spade a spade? I am due a EIGHT MONTH sin bin. Such is life said Ned.
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March 15, 2010 5:57pm
philu

whatever you do..d4j..

never..ever..mention the fact that a ‘spade’ may cross-dress..eh..?

even if said ‘spade’ ids an ‘adult’..yet has already admitted getting dressed up in ‘robes’..to play grown-ups-dress-ups..

don’t do that..eh..?

(on a serious note..that demerit system has always been at best..a totally random exercise in enforcement..

and if you are a rightie..you can say much more..than if you are not a rightie..eh..?

we have all seen that happen..time and time again..

but..hey..!..greenfly still holds the demerit-record..

two life-bans..

whoar..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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March 15, 2010 6:29pm
Inventory2

Phil – I choose not to use my real name so that my business is not compromised by any views I might express as an individual.

Here’s a hint for you though; the business has nothing to do with financial services, unless you count investing in people.
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March 15, 2010 6:49pm
philu

a slave-owner/peddler..!

i knew it..!

(or..do you buy corpses..and dismember them for body parts to sell..?)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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March 15, 2010 6:57pm
big bruv

“I am due a EIGHT MONTH sin bin. Such is life said Ned.”

There is a god!
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March 15, 2010 8:10pm
dad4justice

a tuffey god?
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March 15, 2010 8:18pm
big bruv

Still got the anger issues aye D4J?
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March 15, 2010 8:21pm
dad4justice

haha
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March 15, 2010 8:23pm
big bruv

When does the eight month ban kick in D4J?
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March 15, 2010 8:29pm
dad4justice

you got a hard on thinking about it.
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March 15, 2010 8:31pm
big bruv

What?

Are you gay as well D4J?
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March 15, 2010 8:40pm
LeftRightOut

Gay? He’s never had a happy day in his life!
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March 15, 2010 9:48pm
pjje

Social marketing, it’s called. All those adverts that upset you. I think they have value. I know there is a view that passing a law should do the trick. But that suggests that laws work for everything. Think about the days of six o’clock and Sunday closing. There was always a back door. Always a “house bar”. Even home brew. Think about the prohibition on abortions, and the consequences of that. Not a lot of back street abortionists, but enough to ruin lives. Enough unwanted children to blight futures. Think, even, about drunk driving.

Laws don’t always work, and one of the reasons is that there are plenty who don’t recognise the consequences in advance of their own fate. For some it’s stupidity – not in some awful sense of evil, oppressive lack dullness, just the simple stupidity that doesn’t get past arithmetic to mathematics, that thinks bronze age science should determine one’s ethical and scientific view of the world. For some it’s the recklessness of youth – you may grow out of it, or may instead fail to survive it. For some it’s mere ignorance – perhaps contributing to such things as the Type II diabetes epidemic. Though a reliance on bronze age science may be an example of ignorance rather than stupidity in some cases. In some cases it’s addiction – back to Type II diabetes and drunk driving again. Social marketing can help address these things.

And save money into the bargain, if it’s effective.

And let’s hope they don’t limit their efforts to advertising. Because that’s only one way of trying to influence our behaviours.

You may well argue that you don’t want your taxes spent on harangues directed at you. That you don’t want your taxes spent on attempts to branwash you into doing things that you might not want to do. But do you want even more money spent on wheelchair-bound accident victims? Or dialysis treatment for alcholic, never-employed kidney-failed diabetic no hopers (I think there’s a lot of them coming down the pipeline)? Or educations that bleed out into the seat of a car crash or down the gutter of a street-side brawl? Maybe even better to suggest some social marketing goals of your own. Like the ostracism of lazy stay-at-homes whose children are an income source. Or the evil of 12-year old brides and 14-year old motherhood. Or the advantages of organ donation.

My partner and I pay what I consider a near unconscionable amount in taxes (and there’s an irony in that, believe me). So I really would like to see Phil get a job. I don’t mind if that “Political Busker” gets out and pushes his barrow, but I really was pleased to see him told to get of his bum and support himself (I was surprised to read that he continues to get the accommodation supplement). And I’m not too happy if I’m helping to pay for the support of his children (though I guess if his partner was motivated enough to get shot of him, she may also have been motivated enough to do more than that, and I have to concede that there are circumstances in which devoting time to the kids is of real value in and of itself). I really would like to see Red get in charge of his depression and get paid employment. And I would really like to see lots of the costs of foolishness and stupidity cut back by education or brainwashing, or whatever one might call it.

So whinge and cringe at those adverts if you like. But I think that as a general rule you’re wrong.

BTW – Does anyone recall the adverts for middle class social welfare: that phone call across the room to call the teenager to the table? I haven’t seen them for a good long while. What exactly were they designed to make us think about?

After midnight. Stupid myself. I have to get on line earlier if there’s to be any point. Given the hour, there’s no point in proofing or editing. Apologies to the estimable Mr Farrar for subjecting him to this diatribe.
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March 16, 2010 12:17am
ari.sargent@powershop.co.nz

@Dave Mann:

It is not Powershop’s style to preach to anyone at all. Irrespective of anyone’s views on climate change it just makes sense to understand your power consumption and reduce it if practical to do so. EarthHour represents a high profile opportunity that is topical and relevant to our business. It also allows us to promote technology we have developed (our PowerSaver application) at relatively low cost. As you have also noted EarthHour also has some big media sponsors, so from our point of view the bang-for-buck is great. We do have some brains, and we are not just jumping on a band-wagon – we are merely promoting our business to a target audience in a cost effective way, it’s just common sense.
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