Sunday News on Jacinda

March 8th, 2010 at 9:17 am by David Farrar

The Sunday News gushes over :

Ardern is sleek and luminous today, despite running late after a morning spent hearing submissions on the Super City.

She says she’s flustered but it doesn’t show. Her classy tan-and-black dress is by Christchurch designer Carolyn Barker. Her make-up is flawless, her hair frizz-free. The overall impression is one of both energy and calm.

Sleek, luminous, classy, flawless, energy and calm. It sounds like an interview with Angelina Jolie :-)

Ardern’s single and has been devoted to Labour since before she could vote.

So it’s a little strange that she has been compared to former National MP Katherine Rich, who bowed out before the last election to spend more time with her family.

Ardern: “Someone said to me, `are you the new Katherine Rich?’ I said, `you know I am in Labour?”‘ She laughs.

I would have thought the more appropriate comparison is to a young Helen Clark.

“Helen [Clark] dedicated her entire life to what she did, in lots of ways. As long as I’m able to make a difference, I’d be willing to do that as well, I think.”

Like Helen, Jacinda plans a life in politics.

Good friend and fellow Labour MP Grant Robertson shared an office with Adern through the “extraordinarily stressful” 2005 election year, when they were both advisors to Clark.

He says Adern defies her age.

“I think she’s made a great beginning. I’d like to think Jacinda will be a cabinet minister in fairly short order.”

Labour are unlikely to be in Government until 2014 or even 2017+, but I have little doubt Jacinda will be a Minister in the next Labour Government – as will Grant.

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55 Responses to “Sunday News on Jacinda”

  1. Clint Heine (1,571 comments) says:

    This sleek creature surely does like to defy her socialist ideals… all kitted out in her flash rags. Why don’t they ask her the tough questions. I don’t care that she *may* be attractive, young or has a nice smile… she’s getting off scot free!

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  2. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    What a shame we don’t have a media who could tell us the truth about the big government worshiping Jacinda- that she is a brainwashed leftist bimbo who wants to take away our rights to property, legislatively steal our income, and grow the state until it has stomped on every last vestige of our liberty. No doubt exactly what the “journalist” who “interviewed” her wants to do as well.

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  3. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    “Labour are unlikely to be in Government until 2014 or even 2017+ ” – DPF

    Thats your considered opinion eh ? So Whats the science for basing your prediction on and does it take into account variable fuck ups by the current govt which may swing voters back to the left ?

    [DPF: Three major reasons for my prediction. 1 – The last time a Govt got kicked out after one term was 35 years ago. 2 – the current Govt is 20%+ ahead in the polls. 3 – I can’t see NZers voting in an Opposition Leader who entered Parliament when Muldoon was still PM]

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  4. Angus (536 comments) says:

    Ardern & Robertson are nothing more than politically one-dimensional Klarkinista era apparatchiks with dubious levels of experience outside of student politics and cliquey circle-jerking left-wing quangos. When the inevitable day arises when either of these two lifestyle sponges gets hold on the tiller of power, the country will end up even more fucked than it is now.

    What a disgrace.

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  5. bchapman (649 comments) says:

    Doesn’t this article strike you as a bit sexist? Don’t see many mainstream articles referring to Simon Bridges clothing, John Keys arse or Gerry Brownlee as sleek, classy and flawless!

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  6. malcolm (1,952 comments) says:

    Lovely. Just what NZ needs, another career politician who’s apparently destined to become a cabinet minister after a career spent doing nothing but being groomed by the Labour party.

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  7. Pete George (23,681 comments) says:

    So Whats the science for basing your prediction

    Past election patterns and common sense. You’d have to be a Labourite labouring under false illusions to think they have more than a small smidgen of a chance in 2011. And 2014 is looking a long long way away for Labour too. Goff will probably be off, so it will depend on whether they can find a credible leader and whether they can work out how to appear to be a credible governing party.

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  8. wikiriwhis business (4,115 comments) says:

    “So Whats the science for basing your prediction on”

    Liarbour scared the crap out of everyone with their communist EFB bill. Thousands protested against it.

    Then say turned around after the election and said they lost because of shower heads and light bulbs.

    That’s how juvenile and demented they think we are.

    They had so long to succeed in good times and they lost the opportunities. Instead they used there extended tenure to cement their ideology which is simply not Kiwi. WE are not a full fledged communist nation.

    Because of the way business has slowly been victimised and drained in this country, starting with Muldoon, who really attacked the middle class and caused thousands of bankruptcies, New Zealand has gradually been handed over to the uneducated and unemployable in the pretext their day is coming. The Greens are a propaganda front for that lie that has become so obvious National will certainly enjoy a long stay in treasury seats by not tampering with the illusion the voting public still has a valid say in the direction of this country.

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  9. radvad (772 comments) says:

    “As long as I’m able to make a difference,”

    Boilerplate pollie code words for “I can’t wait to get into power so I can remake everything in my image”.

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  10. dime (10,100 comments) says:

    god the left are desperate to promote anyone young.

    a young helen clark?? they have similar teeth…

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  11. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    DPF: “Three major reasons for my prediction. 1 – The last time a Govt got kicked out after one term was 35 years ago. 2 – the current Govt is 20%+ ahead in the polls. 3 – I can’t see NZers voting in an Opposition Leader who entered Parliament when Muldoon was still PM”

    1) so its about time then. The longer the time between events happening increases the chance of it happening again sooner.

    2) it wont take much hardship for the less fortunate at the expense of the well to do to swing polls back.

    3)so Goff is far more experienced and is showing that compared to Key while most young voters know nothing of Muldoon and care less about who entered what when.

    I’ll bet you a dozen beers Key loses the next election, Hide and Dunne wont be there and the Maori voters go back to labour ? Based on Keys shortcomings as a leader of substance and a weak cabinet. Hides fuck ups over the supercity. A media backlash over Dunne being a waste of space and the foreshore and seabed not being resolved satisfactorily causing an implosion of the Maori party :)

    [DPF: I have money on iPredict saying National will win. I suggest you go and buy up some Labour stock, as it is around one third the price of National’s – you’ll make a huge profit if you are right]

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  12. Scott (1,817 comments) says:

    Jacinda is pretty- sure-but I am amazed how the media seems to find left wing women attractive and give them interviews that are soft and positive.

    Would be interesting if she was on the right of the political spectrum-would she get the same soft treatment? Has the Sunday News interviewed a young attractive National MP and given them the same treatment?

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  13. Don the Kiwi (1,794 comments) says:

    Pollywog.

    Get your head out of your socialist arse and look around. Liarbore are still promoting the things that lost them the govt benches.
    Oh……..sorry, of course, you won’t understand what I’m talking about.

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  14. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    Perhaps the biggest factor in losing the election will be the AB’s losing the world cup, because history is not on our side there either. Despite having home advantage that might still be a weakness for a team of chokers in the big show…. i’m pickin the ozzys or the saffas.

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  15. kyotolaw (52 comments) says:

    The profile is in the entertainment section of the Sunday News.

    A comment on what the Sunday News thinks of politics in general, or a comment on Arden in particular?

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  16. davidp (3,587 comments) says:

    >Like Helen, Jacinda plans a life in politics.

    I wouldn’t let these politics-obsessed people anywhere near public office. I prefer people to live a bit before they ask me to let them govern the country.

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  17. helmet (807 comments) says:

    She must be pleased with that interview, but look, I actually know her. And there’s no fricken way that she should be in charge of a ministerial portfolio. She’s a professional arse-kisser and nothing more, her rise on the Labour list simply proves that she won the Clark sycophant competition over her colleagues. She’s kind of a fun person I guess, but definitely not run-the-country material.

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  18. KiwiGreg (3,259 comments) says:

    “1) so its about time then. The longer the time between events happening increases the chance of it happening again sooner”

    Like if you throw 4 heads in a row the chance of a tails goes up.

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  19. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    “Pollywog. Get your head out of your socialist arse. Liarbore are still promoting the things that lost them the govt benches. ”

    Bro…I have no idea what a socialist is ? The thing that lost labour the election, was that a vote for Key was a vote against Helen, more than it was a vote for National. I doubt the next election will be won on having a cult of personality behind you. It’ll be about issues and policies that promoted a widening of the wealth disparity chasm and a track record of broken promises.

    Meanwhile the current gov’t is still pointing the finger at the expense of owning and claiming the problems then putting up credible solutions. I’m sorry, but sooner rther than later, people are gonna realise that nothings happening but the deck chairs on the Titanic getting shifted.

    You can fool some people some time but you cant fool all the people all the time.

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  20. Falafulu Fisi (2,179 comments) says:

    I advise Jacinda to learn more about economics because she has no clue at all. Despite me posting some economic research links at RedAlert last year for her to read about why raising minimum wage lead to the rise in youth unemployment, she is still advocating that minimum wage should be increased. It’s beyond belief that a politician and a policymaker like her doesn’t want or willing to learn about economic facts.

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  21. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    “Like if you throw 4 heads in a row the chance of a tails goes up.”

    haha…nah, more like if we haven’t had a major earthquake/eruption for while, the time for one is getting closer…

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  22. malcolm (1,952 comments) says:

    Good point, Falafulu Fisi. A lot of people are mentally lazy and understanding the minimum wage problem requires an appreciation of second order effects. Which as you say comes down to understanding economics.

    I had a similar experience yesterday at the Newtown Fair talking to the dear old lady with Anti Water Meters petition. I ask her if she thought it would be a good idea to get rid of electricity meters and just pay a flat fee through your rates. No she said, because water is essential for life whereas electricity is not.

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  23. queenstfarmer (782 comments) says:

    Perhaps the biggest factor in losing the election will be the AB’s losing the world cup

    Interesting that Labour supporters are pinning their 2011 hopes primarily on the All Blacks not winning the 2011 RWC. To be fair it is probably their only chance – it’s not as though most people would actually vote for Labour’s current policies or “leaders”. Better not let any party members do the catering eh :-)

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  24. dime (10,100 comments) says:

    >Like Helen, Jacinda plans a life in politics.

    lol why wouldnt she? she will never get turfed under MMP. shes making 130k now? 200+ when shes a minister ruining the country. sweet deal.

    oh yeah, she gets to hate the “rich” while she is doing it.

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  25. Pete George (23,681 comments) says:

    How sad is that for political dreams, hang in there with the same old bullshit and hope the ABs lose the world cup. I guess there isn’t much else for them to cling to.

    Maybe they also hope the All Whites will be severely embarrassed at the soccer world cup so their polls improve.

    Seems like a similar mentality to the GOP in the US – hope (and try and ensure) Obama crashes and burns so they get elected by default. And the seem to almost wish that the country crashes and burns too.

    Political hope, national suicide?

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  26. Fletch (6,488 comments) says:

    Falafulu Fisi, I think you’re right and that is Labour’s (and all Socialist’s) problem.
    They come up with these lovely sounding (but ultimately flawed) ideologies, like Sue Bradford’s smacking law, that sound all fine and noble but they refuse to think them through using common sense to the resulting consequences.

    Another example is the removal of corporal punishment in schools and the outcome is that the ACC is paying out for attacks on hundreds of teachers in our schools, not to mention the undisciplined generation of kids coming up.

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  27. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    I’m hardly a Labour supporter and i dont know what the same old bullshit they’re touting is, only that if it was them fucking up the state of affairs as i think the current gov’t is, i’d be dogging their performance too.

    I’m not hoping the AB’s lose either, it’s just that history is against them and we, as in previous times, look to be peaking to early. The other thing is, saffas play the big tourney better than anyone and i rate Deans over Henry as a coach, So it’s another of those, it hasnt happened yet but it will soon enough, things for Deans to get one over and where better than in the big show.

    I’d say Key would be pinning his hopes on winning the rugger world cup more than Goff given his ‘party central’ theme but like the National party, i just don’t think there’ll be enough depth or experience in the AB’s bench come next year.

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  28. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    [DPF: I have money on iPredict saying National will win. I suggest you go and buy up some Labour stock, as it is around one third the price of National’s – you’ll make a huge profit if you are right]

    Yeah nah…i’ll wager for beers cos chances are i get to drink em even if i lose but i dont waste money gambling, not even on lotto pipe dreams.

    Sure, i cant win if i don’t play but by the same token, i can’t lose either. Besides i’m a notoriously bad loser and an even worse winner :)

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  29. somewhatthoughtful (467 comments) says:

    clint, when will the right grow up and realise that socialism no longer means being trapped in a perpetual proletariat struggle. our ideas have advanced, just look @ the last labour govt, why don’t yours?

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  30. Matt Long (90 comments) says:

    Or look at the current socialist Government for that matter

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  31. Bevan (3,924 comments) says:

    I wonder what the feminists in the Labour party have to say about this – surely if the article was about Nikki Kaye we’d be hearing endless screams about her setting back womens rights by decades, and giving in to mysogynist fantasies….

    Mind you it is only the Sunday News, one step up from the titty shot in the Truth.

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  32. Bevan (3,924 comments) says:

    I’m not hoping the AB’s lose either, it’s just that history is against them …

    Haven’t you just finished argueing that the longer time between events increases the chance of it happening again?

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  33. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    “I’m not hoping the AB’s lose either, it’s just that history is against them …”

    “Haven’t you just finished argueing that the longer time between events increases the chance of it happening again?”

    yeah so i’m a walking contradiction, your point being ?

    The flip side is, we have a 100% winning history for times when the tourney has been played here in NZ ? The point being, you cant really predict much from history so just because a one term gov’t hasn’t been chucked out in ages, doesnt mean it’s not gonna happen this time.

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  34. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    “and does it take into account variable fuck ups by the current govt which may swing voters back to the left ?”

    [DPF: Three major reasons for my prediction. 1 – The last time a Govt got kicked out after one term was 35 years ago. 2 – the current Govt is 20%+ ahead in the polls. 3 – I can’t see NZers voting in an Opposition Leader who entered Parliament when Muldoon was still PM]

    heh…so that’s a NO then

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  35. Manolo (14,040 comments) says:

    Arden represents the intake of new blood in the ranks of the socialist Labour Party.

    As you would surmise from her brief CV her experience in the real world is next to nothing. Student politics, political science, politician’s minion/lackey/cum-gopher are some of her “achievements”.

    The longer NZ delays getting her in charge of anything, the better we’ll all be.

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  36. RRM (10,007 comments) says:

    Yet more “evidence” that the MSM are puppets of the evil Liarb… oh, never mind.

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  37. kowtow (8,755 comments) says:

    Radvan and anggus are spot on with comments above.

    I’ve just watched her maiden speech on You tube.

    Same old socialist trade unionist drivel, poor health, poverty,suicide,Aotearoa,causes of crime,climate change……….
    COMPULSORY universal Te maori in school,really useful that!

    This woman would leave the country broke if she ever got a handle on power.

    If you want to see their idea of social justice look at Britain today with their divisive equality and human rights legislation that puts foreigners,immigrants and minorities ahead of Britons and you ‘ll start to get an idea of where NZ will be if this lot gets back in any time soon.

    She also doesn’t know the difference between the verbs to buy and to bring ,I hate BOUGHT when it should be bRought.(Pet hate)

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  38. Patrick Starr (3,674 comments) says:

    “a young helen clark?? they have similar teeth…”

    except they are pointing in exactly the opposite direction

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  39. lastmanstanding (1,300 comments) says:

    Re malcoms comment about her being groomed by the Labour Party

    When I read that I had a cold shiver. Reminded me of dirty old men grooming young boys.

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  40. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,753 comments) says:

    Jacinda and Grant simply won’t cut it in Canberra.

    No one will listen to a couple of dumb hicks.

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  41. edhunter (552 comments) says:

    speaking of dirty old men I’d put her over my knee & give her a good spanking, which is something I’d never had dreamt of doing to Helen, shivers going down my spine just typing that

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  42. Rex Widerstrom (5,354 comments) says:

    The NZ media, proudly peddling unthinking hagiography as journalism since the 80s.

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  43. JiveKitty (778 comments) says:

    No thank you, I don’t want another career politician. I’d rather individuals in politics be those who have spent a decent amount of time in more real world, less insulated careers before they decide they want to be part of the governance of a nation. And I don’t care what they look like, although many might. Of course, that doesn’t happen much these days, it seems, John Key being an exception, with politics as it is.

    @Pollywog: It seems that people are cautious in changing their votes. Last election may have been a vote against Helen, but there seems to be a good likelihood that many people will believe that one term is not enough to test a government on (and/or dissatisfaction with changes may just take a while to seep into where people place their vote – even taking into account “variable fuck ups”). These may be reasons for the rarity of one term governments over the past 35 years. Regardless as to the underlying reason/s for this, there is a trend that one term governments are unlikely in NZ, so it’s a valid point based on statistical trends.

    With regard to “variable fuck ups”, by your inference, I assume that in your mind they are already occurring. I don’t deny that they may be, but as DPF has noted, there is still a significant polling gap between National and Labour in favour of National. Doesn’t this at least partially imply there’s not been a large swing back to the left? While there is still a good amount of time until the next election, your hypothesis is AS YET not supported (it might be later on, although the trend of one term governments seems to show that swingbacks do not often occur to a large enough degree to count in the second election of a government in NZ).

    Are you also discounting the possibility there may be a swingback to the “right” (to use your terminology)? Many who voted National may be disappointed by the government’s policies, but many of these may who are dissatisfied may be centrists who lean to the “right” and whose votes swing between ACT, National and other parties with somewhat “rightist” policies. Which in effect means that National don’t really lose too many votes as the majority of the swing could go to ACT, and ACT are only going to offer support to a National government. (I’m not suggesting some “left”-leaning people won’t go back to Labour, more that the majority of those dissatisfied enough with National to change their vote could potentially be “right”-leaning, particularly as National has been relatively moderate in times where hard decisions have to be made, even with the mooted hike in GST.)

    Furthermore, your points about Phil Goff ignore that he’s a vestige of a discarded order (and I think that’s what people here have been getting at). He’s old. Those who remember him from two decades ago are the ones who probably do care about his track record. And he hasn’t got the sleek image to appeal to those who’re too young to remember those days. He seems out of touch, and he’s unlikely to do a Norm Kirk and have a big enough image makeover that people can’t see that he’s pushing the same old tired ideas.

    As it stands his opposition at present seems to be opposition for opposition’s sake rather than opposition because he’s got anything constructive in his bag. He might object to some of the effects of the GST hike for example, but he’s been extremely vague about what his policy is, and furthermore, there are costs to every policy. He hasn’t explained how his policy costs will be any less. He’s just said, “Labour won’t raise GST!” “Poor people are going to be hurt.” What about deficits? What about the macro-effects of such policy? Where is Labour intending to change taxes? Or do they intend to cut services (to trot out the old line that’s usually used in relation to right-wingers and taxation)? It seems that National has stolen his ground (the centre) and he’s got no answer.

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  44. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    Are you posting from a government computer JiveKitty?? Just asking.

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  45. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    Seems like a similar mentality to the GOP in the US – hope (and try and ensure) Obama crashes and burns so they get elected by default. And the seem to almost wish that the country crashes and burns too.

    Butthurt.

    As for donkey girl, anyone who tried to go all touchy-feely social worker on Islamists after the 11th September attacks probably shouldn’t be in charge of national security.

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  46. KiwiGreg (3,259 comments) says:

    from the article “In her maiden speech to parliament, Ardern spoke about ridding the country of poverty, of compulsory Te Reo for school children and our shameful attitude to climate change. ”

    As poverty is conventionally defined as a % of average income, the only way to eradicate it is for everyone to earn the same. I leave you to work out what that sort of country looks like. Reducing “poverty” can be achieved by pauperising the “rich” or driving them out of the country.

    Compulsory Te Reo (I assume she means more compulsory Te Reo as a certain amount is already built into the syllabus) will presumably displace something less vital to educating our young like maths or english.

    I’d like to think “our shameful attitude to climate change” was our kowtowing to the nonsense of the IPCC but given where she stands on the political spectrum she can only be a warmonger.

    Three stupid goals and a long time in politics to achieve them. One shudders.

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  47. Pete George (23,681 comments) says:

    Good summary Jivekitty, can you post the at Red Alert and The Standard? Should be compulsory reading for any Labourites if they are interested in getting back into government this decade. They seem to be stuck in “opposition for opposition’s sake ” with too much of the past hanging over them.

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  48. JiveKitty (778 comments) says:

    @Redbaiter: No, I’m not. Why do you ask?

    @Pete George: Thanks. I hear, uhh, they’re not so big on freedom of ideas at Red Alert and The Standard. Have I been led astray?

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  49. Patrick Starr (3,674 comments) says:

    “Have I been led astray?”

    no…. you can still buy the book and recite from it freely

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  50. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    Yup…good post alright JiveKitty. For what it’s worth, I’ve said before Goff is not the one and maybe they should roll him this year. With Cunliffe and Jones squaring up against Key and English it should make for a good stoush.

    I dont know what the same tired old policies Labour are re-treading, just that theres a lotta hurt going to be inflicted by the current gov’ts ones if they go ahead and it might backlash into voter dissatisfaction cos the fact is, the assurance of “not being worse off” translates to ‘probably being worse off’ given Key has broken a few assurances already

    Sure, given the current polls, National could govern alone but without any partners, should Hide and Dunne get routed and the Maori party swings or implodes, it could be tighter than polls forecast.

    and GO SAMOA IN THE RUGBY WORLD CUP !!! :)

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  51. V (745 comments) says:

    Oh God the idolising of non-achieving politicians movement has arrived on our shores, someone shoot me now.

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  52. Tauhei Notts (1,746 comments) says:

    My mate, the agricultural consultant, took his former neighbour Jacinda out on farm visits recently so that she could learn about the productive sector.
    Time spent with Jacinda must be good for his golf as he scored 47 stableford points yesterday.

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  53. francis (712 comments) says:

    Aw, c’mon. The best seasoning happens in the pan. She’s so young, there’s no way to tell how well she could manage even a minor ministerial portfolio from this distance out. And once in the pan, smart/pretty isn’t anywhere near enough. She might have what it takes – and it wouldn’t be visible from this distance to the date. Hope for the country’s sake that when she gets those portfolios she manages them well.

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  54. Clint Heine (1,571 comments) says:

    I’ll be up for that wager Pollywog. I always like taking beers from mugs :)

    Is Jacinda still president of the International Socialist Youth? I wonder what they do at their meetings?

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  55. JiveKitty (778 comments) says:

    @Pollywog: The problem was that he became the leader at all, but at the time they didn’t have anybody else who it really seemed was viable as leader. It would’ve been too soon for someone like Jones (just on the risk factor). they didn’t want to bring someone in too early and end up like National did in the early 2000s. I see Goff as a caretaker leader more than anything else, giving time for Labour to bring in some new blood and get those like Jones a bit more experience. But I don’t think that they’d have enough time to get the support they need even if they were to roll him soon, particularly if it was an acrimonious rolling.

    And there may be a lot of hurt inflicted by National, but take it back to the late 80s and there was also a lot of hurt inflicted there with the Douglas-led reforms. However, Labour got another term there, in part because the changes were seen as necessary (as many of them were, some would argue they didn’t go far enough). The same can be said here. National are trying to make changes that are necessary due to the current world economic situation and what they’ve inherited from the past Labour government to deal with it. They’ll hurt a lot of people, but we’ll be better off in the long run. This may or may not be true, but I think people will accept that line, at least through this term, and depending upon what happens with the world economy and how gradual the changes National make are, they’re likely to at least get a second term, and may even make it to a third. It’s probably worth noting that a big part of Labour only going two terms from the late 80s, aside from the schism which developed in the party, was that the changes they made were not very gradual. They all came relatively quickly and didn’t minimise or spread the harm over a longer period. Labour got a lot of flack for this and were seen as callous. If they’d been a bit more gradual and concerned with harm minimisation, there’s a decent chance the schism wouldn’t have developed or wouldn’t have developed so much, public opinion wouldn’t have been as vicious as it was and they may have even been able (with a longer time scale) to go further with their changes.

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