The urinating Mayor walked past a public toilet

March 28th, 2010 at 5:47 pm by David Farrar

This little screenshot has the red line showing the path you would take to go from GPK to the Council offices, as Mayor Williams did on Thursday. It is not a long distance – around 500 metres.

Now we already know that the Mayor could have used the toilets at GPK. We also know he could have accessed the Council building, and used their toilets, rather than urinate outside.

But what many may not know, is that he would have actually walked past a set of public toilets – where the thick green arrow is. According to locals, there is a tourist i-site at this location, with a public toilet.

So just 200 metres after passing perfectly good public toilets, the Mayor decides he needs to urinate outside his own Council building. This just makes it worse.

I note with amusement that the website has a front page poll on whether there are enough liquor bans in public areas. Maybe they need a liquor ban within 500 metres of the Council offices!

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96 Responses to “The urinating Mayor walked past a public toilet”

  1. krazykiwi (9,188 comments) says:

    I’m sure Williams knows how excatly much isn’t spent on cleaning the public loos in his kingdom. The tree was almost certainly safer for him.

    Edit – Love the squiggly red line. Depicts the staggering quite well :)

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  2. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    I like how LeftRightO- sorry, Andrew Williams disappeared from the last thread after I identified him.

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  3. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    to be fair to the fool he probably would have walked down The Strand, as the NSCC carpark is closer to the ‘C’ in Channel view (and there are lots of trees on that route)

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  4. MT_Tinman (2,790 comments) says:

    Damn, a man can’t even spot a thirsty tree and remedy the situation without you lot picking on him.

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  5. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    There are many worse things we can do in public than urinating on a tree. Being liquored up enough to walk past a public toilet and use a tree is one thing, proceeding to drive afterward is another. Resignation seems like the only option in light of the driving. It’s one thing to say ‘oop’s I got drunk and pissed on a tree’ but you can’t say that when you drove afterward….

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  6. starboard (2,447 comments) says:

    the mans a drunken buffoon…stand down now you fool while you still have a smidgen of dignity.

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  7. Blue Coast (165 comments) says:

    Starboard

    What dignity are you talking about?

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  8. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    This is the sort of investigative journalism people like Martyn Bradbury crave for yet cry about when evil Reich-wing blogs do the leg work. Still upset, Martyn? There there, it will all be better soon.

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  9. Banana Llama (1,105 comments) says:

    Who is this comrade Bradbury Hurf?

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  10. Guy Fawkes (702 comments) says:

    Just what has he done wrong? When you are in Public office, why do you have to do what the public does? Or use Public conveniences?

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  11. Inventory2 (9,787 comments) says:

    Ha – Arnie is The Terminator; Andy is The Urinator :-)

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  12. Steve (4,314 comments) says:

    Maybe they need a liquor ban inside Council Offices.
    Ever remember that pesky kid that was always a problem at kids birthday parties? the one that was a loudmouth at the teen parties? the one that just pissed everyone off?
    Yeah, you do remember, and then you voted for him. Why? Because you need to be controlled by leftist suckholers that’s why. Time to stop the blamestorming Andrew. You are the only one who can help yourself.

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  13. Luc Hansen (4,573 comments) says:

    No person with a public profile would want to be seen visiting a public toilet, surely. So maybe Williams wasn’t THAT pissed!!

    But look, this is one sick puppy. His election was an accident, and he is about to bow out soon, thankfully.

    Let’s just be kind and not bully him into something silly.

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  14. George Patton (330 comments) says:

    Luc – are you out of your mind?

    The man is the Mayor. He is responsible for the safety and cleanliness of all public toilets. If he, or for you for that matter, are saying that public toilets are not safe and clean, then what does that say about his success in the job of running the city?

    This is Takapuna, one of New Zealand’s most affluent suburbs.

    If the public toilets in Takapuna aren’t clean enough for the Mayor of North Shore to use, then frankly, North Shore NEEDS a supercity.

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  15. RKBee (1,344 comments) says:

    Hay.. i’m Andrew Williams Mayor North Shore City Council… Hick… and I can do what I like.. Hick.. this is my town.. Hick..

    Sorry Andrew you can’t..

    and Act will make sure of it..

    How is it Rodney always fulls on his feet .. smiling.

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  16. TomYum (26 comments) says:

    Well I feel sorry for Amelia’s granny/uncle/auntie/friends etc who, proud as punch, come to see her having made it (politically) on to Kiwiblog, only to find her bracketed by cunts, one way or another.

    Edit: actually, it feels weird to type that word

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  17. Guy Fawkes (702 comments) says:

    Could have been worse. Might have pissed his pants before or when he got into his car and apparently drove off.

    As tired and emotional as a NEWT. And there was me thinking Wind in the Willows was mainly about a Toad.

    Oh wait……………..

    There is no option, but for him to resign tout de suite. PDQ or Right now will do!

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  18. Michaels (1,317 comments) says:

    We all know one of the best songs around……… [courtesy Whale]

    “Ding dong the witch is dead”.

    Well here comes…..
    “Ding dong the drunk is dead)!!!!

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  19. Brian Smaller (3,915 comments) says:

    I suspect that that serial mugger who got old Keith Allen back in Wellington all those years ago has got out of prison and mugged the Mayor. What was his name? Jack something.

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  20. Michaels (1,317 comments) says:

    Brian…. sure it wasn’t my mate Rob’s friend Gordon?

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  21. malcolm (2,000 comments) says:

    What a beat up. Any bloke who hasn’t had a quick piss on a tree in a public garden is either a liar or needs to get out a bit more often.

    Talk about mock outrage.

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  22. Michaels (1,317 comments) says:

    sure malcolm, your right, EXCEPT WHEN YOU GET ELECTED TO OFFICE!!!

    Why do you think Bill Clinton got into so much trouble?
    Sure we all get regular blow jobs from our secretary under the office desk, BUT NOT THE ELECTED!!!

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  23. Guy Fawkes (702 comments) says:

    Think it would be rather splendid for the reporters and media to have a wee chat with the folk that the good Mayor was talking to on the day in question.

    Whilst he was getting tired and emotional, there are bound to have been plenty of folk in GPK who would have also have been in earshot of him.

    There is bound to be a lot of fascinating material there for us all to enjoy, and enjoy, and continue enjoying.

    What an arse.

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  24. Steve (4,314 comments) says:

    See you at 7.30am by the tree Andrew, breath test

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  25. Monty (944 comments) says:

    TVNZ story is up here http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/calls-grow-mayor-s-resignation-3436536/video and I expect TV3 will also run a similar story.

    Bring on Paul Henry tomorrow morning – that should be fun.

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  26. LeftRightOut (622 comments) says:

    You’re right Malcolm. Faux outrage indeed.

    I piss outdoors at lweast 4 times a week

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  27. dad4justice (7,406 comments) says:

    I piss on my lemon tree 3 times a day.

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  28. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    Back again, Andrew. Put your wife back on her leash?

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  29. LeftRightOut (622 comments) says:

    With 11.5 inches in my pants, she doesn’t need a leash.

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  30. Michaels (1,317 comments) says:

    But D4J, I would like to think it is in your OWN back yard!!!
    And of course that’s all good.

    A thought to hand….. I hope Baloo doesn’t piss on his…… he’d make a mess on the carpet :)

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  31. jaba (2,068 comments) says:

    proof that Andy Williams can’t handle the piss .. yes that was an attempt at humour
    in a way, it was good he kept out of the public loo while drunk at night on his own .. a George Michael song springs to mind after an unfortunate episode in a loo .. there have been many public figures, some no doubt innocent (as Andy would be), caught up in dodgy situations so the lemon tree may have saved him from even more grief.

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  32. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Pity his blood alcohol level can’t be measured from his urine sample.

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  33. heathcote (101 comments) says:

    Why do you think Bill Clinton got into so much trouble?
    Sure we all get regular blow jobs from our secretary under the office desk, BUT NOT THE ELECTED!!!

    Surely that would be ERECTED

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  34. Paul Marsden (935 comments) says:

    ‘Let he without sin cast the first stone…..’ Perhaps, but when you’re the Mayor of a major NZ city the voters expect (and are entitiled to), a little decorum from those in high office. Mirroring North City city perhaps, Williams should have more class and style, and continually getting soaked in public is not a good look as the position of his office sinks before his very own eyes. Cry baby.

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  35. Guy Fawkes (702 comments) says:

    The Mayor has been know to get tired and emotional, and full of piss quite a few times. If you drink very hard, then you will get a very full bladder. Just wonder whether Andy Pandy ever got tired and emotional with that other well known artist, Winston Peters?

    I-Predict will surely have interesting odds on his imminent resignation.

    If he was spotted getting into and driving a car, then the Police really do need to back check his alcohol consumption in the prior 24hrs.

    The staff in GPK, and the clients that day and night really do need to do a bit of a correlation with his imbibing and his payment receipts.

    If he has consumed a verifiable level in excess of what would be considered normal fair and reasonable he needs arresting straight away. The man is a criminal. A buffoon, and a criminal actually.

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  36. jcuknz (648 comments) says:

    Really you need to appreciate that “When you gotta go, you gotta go” and alchohol reduces inhibitions.

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  37. lloydois (268 comments) says:

    Absolutely shocking.

    Much more shocking than this.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10634799

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  38. sean14 (62 comments) says:

    I dunno David, as big a clown (trademark: Whale Oil) as Williams may be, this strikes me as the politics of the smear. I would expect such from a Trevor Mallard type, but you have consistently shown you can do better.

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  39. Right of way is Way of Right (1,125 comments) says:

    Vivienne Keohane, one of Mr Williams ‘enablers’ has stood in our local ward for the past two elections. I am giving serious consideration to running agaist her!!

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  40. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    jucknz

    Really you need to appreciate that “When you gotta go, you gotta go” and alchohol reduces inhibitions.

    For sure, we’ve all been there. I wouldn’t normally drive like that, how about you?

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  41. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    He use the Dover defense, prostrate problems…. not drunk at all….

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  42. MIKMS (163 comments) says:

    Well. there goes his Knighthood…and chance at power Lol :p

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  43. valeriusterminus (242 comments) says:

    So a claim that Mr Williams was “intoxicated” while at GPK has serious implications for the Bar/Duty Manager?
    GPK is not allowed to have a drunk patron on their premises. Williams either was or was not. The obligation is on the management of GPK to ensure that the patron does not become intoxicated. I feel confident that GPK management will assert that Mr Williams was not intoxicated

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  44. valeriusterminus (242 comments) says:

    GF
    “bit of a correlation with his imbibing and his payment receipts”
    Payment rarely indicates consumption.
    I’ve paid for many rounds without reciprocation, how about you?

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  45. Guy Fawkes (702 comments) says:

    Yep, but people actually like me.

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  46. Rich Prick (1,319 comments) says:

    Going by the red line, that’s quite a stagger.

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  47. Grizz (476 comments) says:

    He is the Mayor. So long as he is within his own jurisdiction, he can piss where he wants!

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  48. valeriusterminus (242 comments) says:

    .

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  49. Guy Fawkes (702 comments) says:

    Does he actually own the Council, its assets, the IP, trademarks, services, history and culture. Or is he just a paid for servant of the people.

    Given his outbursts, apparent random communications at strange hours, and now a possible clear case of DIC.

    He has to go, and go now. He is a FREAK.

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  50. Rich Prick (1,319 comments) says:

    Pissed mares on the other hand are a whole different kettle.

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  51. valeriusterminus (242 comments) says:

    Shoot messenger – never hear the message.
    Actually – Mr Williams advocacy on issues affecting North Shore City, resounds.

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  52. Rich Prick (1,319 comments) says:

    “Mr Williams advocacy on issues affecting North Shore City, resounds.”

    What, like piss hitting the gutter and splashing up your trouser leg?

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  53. Rex Widerstrom (5,124 comments) says:

    With all credit to Inventory 2 for concept and free under Creative Commons licence for… oh, I dunno… whatever you like :-D

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  54. valeriusterminus (242 comments) says:

    So who here is authoratively asserting that Mr Williams was intoxicated “barside at Takapuna’s GPK bar and restaurant around 10pm on Thursday?”
    GPK management? (trained and legally obligated to prevent this)
    Andrew Williams?
    Unamed observer from SST?
    Does Mr Jonathan Marshall actually claim to be that observer?

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  55. Rich Prick (1,319 comments) says:

    “(trained and legally obligated to prevent this)”

    Errr, care to cite some authority for this point of law you raise? Go back to your desk in the Mare’s office and stay off the blog machine, he will be needing it soon for sending email, its after mid-night afterall, and probably pissed.

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  56. Guy Fawkes (702 comments) says:

    V, we just want much more digging. Going back 5 years in a forensic fashion will maybe suffice. All his mails, internal and external.

    Ditto for SMS, snail mail, and communication in fact.

    All traces of inappropriate behavior needs thorough investigation.

    He should welcome the same with open arms.

    Let no stone be upturned. If he has nothing to hide, he has nothing to fear.

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  57. valeriusterminus (242 comments) says:

    RP
    Try the Sale of Liquor Act
    Precis here
    http://resources.ccc.govt.nz/files/LLChecklist-docs.pdf
    “Allows any intoxicated person to be or remain on licensed premise – A fine of up to $4,000″

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  58. valeriusterminus (242 comments) says:

    GF
    Do you advocate the same level of scrutiny for all politicians? Would be interesting to see Mr Hides’ correspondence (and SMS) around the time of his Global excursions mit Girlfriend!

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  59. Rich Prick (1,319 comments) says:

    valeriusterminus, heh, think about the law as it relates to pissing in public places then taking a drive while you are on the Mare’s blog machine. Maybe we are more concerned about the actions of the Mare than we are about the bar staff that served him the wine. Do you intend to pin the blame for his appalling acts on them for forcing the booze down his throat?

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  60. valeriusterminus (242 comments) says:

    Russell Brown says at;
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/11/havoc_does_dj_service_for_fines.html
    “The Sunday News journalist Jonathan Marshall got a court to agree to to wiping $47,000 worth of parking fines this year by agreeing to place himself under a four-nights-a-week curfew!
    If this is the same Jonathan I trust Thursday was not his curfew night!

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  61. valeriusterminus (242 comments) says:

    RP
    Alleged urination – thats all!
    See the pee?
    The credibility of Mr Marshall is paramount.

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  62. Guy Fawkes (702 comments) says:

    V, er not really. Just one at a time will keep us entertained, and chomping on the popcorn. BTW. I feel the same way about any hue of Politician. It up to the 4th Estate and now the Blogosphere to keep them honest.

    If they are not honest, then they will be expected to resign immediately.

    You can’t be a little bit pregnant!

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  63. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,664 comments) says:

    You’ve just got to admire the lefty’s ability to shoot the messenger. Makes you wonder whether this whole story was actually about that American singer Andy Wiliams.

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  64. Inventory2 (9,787 comments) says:

    Is valeriusterminus Mrs Williams? Or is he/she the Mad Mayor himself?

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  65. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    I would like to know why nobody has bothered to ask the tree how it feels about all of this.

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  66. wreck1080 (3,522 comments) says:

    No doubt this story has legs………. gpk staff will be interviewed as to the mayors sobriety or lack thereof.

    The person who saw the mayor spraying against council buildings will provide more detail.

    Historical drinking will be investigated.

    Former employees , work colleagues etc will be sought for comment.

    I don’t get how this guy became mayor, he sounds more like a uni student from the 80′s.

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  67. slightlyrighty (2,448 comments) says:

    There does seem to be some outrage from the left regarding this issue and how we seem to be treating it with some sort of delight.

    All I can say is what goes round, comes round.

    Remember the Blumsky episode?

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  68. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Always wondered who Valeriusterminus was as I suspected it was some pinko pollie, now I know I’m right (well, soon to be pinko ex-pollie).

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  69. Pete George (21,796 comments) says:

    I would like to know why nobody has bothered to ask the tree how it feels about all of this.

    The tree huggers haven’t rushed there to find out?

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  70. bchapman (649 comments) says:

    The story says “The Sunday Star times’ observed ……. Now if you want public officials to be held account it may pay to get slightly better clarification of who it was and what they were doing there. It could easily have been a chance encounter but how would you know.

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  71. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    It might also behove the NthShore City Council to hold their elected officials to account for such alleged behaviour instead of letting them run amok pissing around town like a mad dog.

    Shades of Dover Samuels.

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  72. david (2,482 comments) says:

    It would be far worse for Williams if he was a regular at the public toilets after dark. Then there would be some real speculation about what kind of man he is … but then ” ….. pulling down his pants to pee … ” Ya gotta wonder !

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  73. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    Andy Wliiams dignity has been spotted!

    It was behind a unicorn that was being ridden by the Tooth Fairy who was on her way to visit Santa and the Easter Bunny.

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  74. Chuck Bird (4,401 comments) says:

    It would be interesting to know if Williams paid for the food and drinks for himself and others of charged it to North Shore City. If he charged the bill to the Council his actions would be mush worse.

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  75. bchapman (649 comments) says:

    expat- isn’t that why we have elections? Its a mystery to me how George Wood got dumped by the voters, though it does seem as though polarising figures do quite well in NZ mayoral elections. This is what you get with FFP.

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  76. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    True Mr Chapman. Williams does seem a bloody idiot who needs to go though.

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  77. voice of reason (491 comments) says:

    “the red line showing the path you would take to go from GPK to the Council offices”

    No it doesn’t – GPK is on the other side of the road and another 100 mtrs further along

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  78. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    And where were you that evening voice. A little too much knowledge being displayed I’m thinking.

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  79. voice of reason (491 comments) says:

    Thursday ?? I can’t recall !!

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  80. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    as most of his indiscretions seem to occur after dark – perhaps he’d be better known as the ‘Night Mayor’

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  81. RRM (8,988 comments) says:

    Citizen pisses in street after a session on the turps.

    OH.

    MY.

    GOD.

    THIS.

    IS.

    A.

    TRAVESTY!

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  82. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    Citizen happens to be Mayor of NZ’s 3rd largest city….. yes it is

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  83. RRM (8,988 comments) says:

    Well never let it be said that *only* the left stoops to character assassinations based on trivial matters in the private lives of their opponents… :-)

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  84. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    Hardly character assassination, but what are Jonathan Marshall’s politics again?

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  85. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    RRM

    Citizen pisses in street after a session on the turps.

    THEN DRIVES HIMSELF HOME – This is the big problem.

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  86. mpledger (428 comments) says:

    I can’t believe you guys think it’s o.k. for someone to lose his (or her) job over unsubstantiated allegations that were never reported to the police.

    Urinating in the street is nasty but hardly a major crime and I am sure that more than a few people writing here have been caught short. Especially when public toilets can be locked at night to stop vandalism. Did you check that on your map!

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  87. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    Burt

    It isn’t just that. It is that AND the fact that after about 7 hours on the piss; he lurches into Chez Williams and fires off another drunken email; bullshits on the telly about his attitude towards Williamson; gives the predictably weasely, evasive and dishonest response to the tatty repeater brigade. In other words, this is yet another example of why this idiot is just a complete arse to boot- just like all the other well documented examples. Will the pain medication excuse get dragged out again …?

    But the flak for pissing on a tree (during a drought!) – well, arguably a beat up as the weary old pinkos suggest. But even so its hardly desirable behaviour in a Mayor who ultimately has responsibility for littering and ensuring that the dog-walking fraternity don’t leave a trail of Charles the Thirds around the streets.

    We need to look at this for what is is. Further evidence (if indeed any is required) that he’s a complete idiot, but more importantly, a source of enormous humour on the back of the previous texting and email escapades and in particular, getting the old biddy the heave from the Northcote shopping Centre because she made the place a bit untidy.

    BTW, will anyone be requesting details of his expense claims under the OIA?

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  88. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    …. and of course, in the humour context – the full down trou. Hilarious – was he having trouble finding it??

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  89. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    How much taxpayer money was wasted on this junket? Oh so this just about some guy who pissed on a tree

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  90. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    Bummer Bradbury stumps for The Clown, posts picture of Hide doing a Roman salute. The fiend! And nothing of value was learnt.

    Citizen pisses in street after a session on the turps.

    I like to think we hold our elected representatives to better standards, don’t you?

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  91. Steve (4,314 comments) says:

    thedavincimode,
    I thought they were Richards, not Charles

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  92. Eisenhower (134 comments) says:

    Urinating in the street is nasty but hardly a major crime and I am sure that more than a few people writing here have been caught short.

    Not a major crime but a crime nonetheless -

    Summary Offences Act 1981
    32 Excreting in public place

    (1) Every person is liable to a fine not exceeding $200 who urinates or
    defecates in any public place other than a public lavatory.

    And he couldn’t go at GPK? He’s the mayor ffs, not some street wino. Shouldn’t we expect a greater degree of decorum from elected officials?

    There’s also the none too small matter of driving with excess breath/blood alcohol. Its now reported he woofed back 2 bottles of wine. That’s another potential $4.5k fine or 3 months in Sing Sing – more if he’s a multiple offender, which is entirely possible.

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  93. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    Steve

    You may well be right.

    But then that’s the great thing about dog shit – it means different things to different people!

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  94. jaba (2,068 comments) says:

    so now the GPK workers say he shared 2 bottles with 4 mates .. he arrived after 6pm .. his mate paid for the wine .. he wasn’t pisssed??
    now, he was at another restaurant/bar from midday yo 6pm .. what’s the truth here??
    New Zealand’s Les Patterson lives on the Shore

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  95. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,664 comments) says:

    Jerusalem has its Wailing Wall.

    North shore City has its Pissing Tree.

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  96. big bruv (12,321 comments) says:

    I love the way the left have come out in force to tell is this story is no big deal, it reminds me of the way they spun the Ruth Dyson drink drive incident.

    Can you imagine how they would have attacked this story had it been John Banks who got pissed and urinated on a tree before driving home?

    Fucking hypocrites, every single one of them.

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