Rugby World Cup Odds
April 26th, 2010 at 8:57 pm by David FarrarThe TAB has announced the following initials odds for the Rugby World Cup:
New Zealand $2.20
Australia $4.00
South Africa $4.75
France $9.00
England $15.00
Ireland $15.00
Wales $20.00
Argentina $25.00
Scotland $100.00
Italy $250.00
Fiji $250.00
Samoa $500.00
Tonga $500.00
The current IRB world rankings are:
- NZ
- South Africa
- Australia
- France
- Ireland
- Argentina
- England
- Wales
- Scotland
- Fiji
How unpatriotic would it be to put some money on South Africa?
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April 26th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Smart money if you ask me DPF.
I will be doing the same, along with a bet on the French, putting money on the NZ team makes no sense at all.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
seems like a good bet to me at present – off to the TAB tomorrow.
My wife just asked why would I put $100 on South Africa. Obvious Answer – so they (SA) do not win – any team I bet on will be jinxed.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
DPF, great bet if you ask me, when I think of the All Blacks, first thing that comes into my mind is CHOKERS!
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
I don’t know if NZ will win the world cup but I hope they do. If they don’t win this one they may never win it again. Professionalism has changed the sport forever and NZ may become nothing more than a breeding ground for player and coaching talent. Nothing wrong with that as long as the NZRU change the stupid rule preventing overseas players from playing for the AB’s. If Spain did that in soccer they wouldn’t have enough players to form a team!
The big money in the northern hemisphere will damage NZ game and strengthen theirs.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Punt those Aussies until your nose bleeds, you wont get them at $4.00 after the Tri-nations and they will be at about $1.25 after next years before the World Cup
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Sud Aaafrikaa are the best team on the planet.
The aussies will be interesting but not in the same league.
But it will really come down to the rule interpretations setup by the IRB, and I mean setup.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
That is seriously good money on the Boks.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Put $2000 on Tonga. You could become a millionaire!
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
and the TAB haven’t got the books up on their website yet, nice one guys.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Don’t write off England.
They have a habit of being average, and getting their shit to-gether for the big occasions.
Ireland are now ageing, Wales have peaked, and Scotland are the wild card.
France will put on a good show, but will choke as much as the AB’s come the day.
My money is on a Final of ENG/SA v AUS
The All Blacks will get far too much pressure from media here. And if Dan gets injured it will be an uphill battle.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Mmm, England without Lawrence or Martin on the field and a Johnny Bionica, only if the IRB really tweak the rules….but that would never happen would it?
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
“Put $2000 on Tonga. You could become a millionaire!”
Ha Ha a high risk taker….. put another $2000 on Samoa a double your chances.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
NZ will never win the cup with three Canterbury coaches and a cheating Canterbury captain.
There are many reasons why I hope that the NZ team does not win, one of the main ones is it may well just spell and end to the fucking government investing MY money into sports events.
If the NZRU wanted the RWC then they are the bastards who should be paying for it, the average joe is not going to see one cent of the money that is going to come into NZ, just like the Americas cup was sold to the people as being “good for NZ” this is being sold the same way, the reality is that the Americas cup was good for a few select business in Auckland and by and large that is exactly the same thing that is going to happen with the RWC.
The only enjoyment I will get out of the RWC will be listening to talk back the day after we lose, it is always bloody hilarious.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
“a cheating Canterbury captain.”
Clearly you are not the full tin. New Zealand would be a better place if you moved big blouse. Go the All Blacks!
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Why are Australia ahead of S.Africa?
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Last year I thought SA were at least 20 points better than the AB’s with Australia the big improvers through to the World Cup. France as always the unknown quantity which is why I do not rate the AB win against them the way so many others do. France are also 15/20 points better than any of the other Northern Hemisphere sides.
At this stage I see a SA v either France or Austrlaia final with the AB’s ranked 4th at best.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
nz will not win. on current form.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
NZ don’t deserve that favoritism. Aus are improving at the right time. As others have said SA are a good bet at those odds. As long as they can hold together despite the coaching.
I think it’s open for any of NZ, SA, Aus, France and England, with Ireland and Wales outsiders. All but one will be “chokers” – I think that’s a piss poor sporting term. It all comes down to who handles the sudden death finals format the best, along with a bit of luck.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
If you see an All Black drowning, do you jump in and save him? No, because he’ll choke in the finals anyway.
Excellent odds for South Africa, I might put $100 on them. And I’ll try and find Suzy to make sure that the kiwis don’t win if they get to the final and play SA, just to make sure I get my winnings.
Rugby is a has been game, the S14 has all but destroyed it thanks to its encroachment into the cricket season (seriously, nobody wants to watch rugby in the middle of January) and I’ll follow the motor racing and cricket thanks. When NZ Cricket start a decent domestic T20 competition along the lines of the Australian one, they will shit all over rugby union.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
So if you were to back four of the top five teams, excluding NZ of course, at current odds and assuming NZ choke in the semis, at the least you will break even, or at best you could make a 15-1 return. Not bad odds at all.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
wreck1080
nz will not win. on current form.
NZ Rugby will not win. on current form.
Vote:April 26th, 2010 at 11:52 pm
Pete George (4742) a good point about the SA coaching – they also probably need Smit, Matfield and du Preez to hold together.
For those pushing Englands case think about this – how many NZ provincial sides would Flutey make? Yet he is seen over here as the mainstay of their backline.
Australia and France are the big dangers to SA – especially Australia who are developing very nicely under the man who should be coaching the AB’s.
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 6:31 am
It would be very unpatriotic. But also a superb hedge.
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 6:47 am
BB
If you are going to spout crap all the time, make it accurate crap
Try two canterbury coaches , last time I looked Graham henry was the ex Auckland coach!!!!!
You sound like the fat union wanker that I used to have to suffer at the freezing works many moons ago
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 7:37 am
No, it wouldn’t be unpatriotic to put money on South Africa, but business savvy. Realistically, our chances re on par or even inferior to the Boks.
Vote:Also, watch out for the new wave of Australian players: the Wallabies will be up there.
April 27th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Pauleastbay
Graham Henry (born 8 May 1946 in Christchurch)
Now I know why you worked in the freezing works….
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 8:27 am
“Punt those Aussies until your nose bleeds, you wont get them at $4.00 after the Tri-nations and they will be at about $1.25 after next years before the World Cup”
even if they dominate the Tri-nations you would only see a drop to $3ish
$1.25 is so short it would be safe to call it almost near impossible
once you get to the final you might see odds of $1.25 but even then its unlikely
I dont tend to bet on on outright winner in the Rugby World Cup
got Habana at 13/1 to be top try scorer last time
plus got 29/1 for there to be no tries in the final
is it completely off topic to ask people their thoughts on the FIFA World Cup fast approaching???
if so then sorry DPF
I think the overs is Portugal at 24/1
Vote:and Im going to punt Chile to make the semis while taking Suazo to be Golden Boot (he should be at 59/1 or more)
Group H (Spain, Chile, Switzerland, Honduras) would be a great bet for group with most goals too (NZs group will be severly under the odds in this option, hopefully pushing the rest out)
April 27th, 2010 at 8:41 am
all this choker talk is a bit harsh — it ‘s a world cup, one team can come from nowhere, have a blinder game, and 80 minutes isn’t enough time for the better-on-average team to get back. Let’s not forget the influence of the ref…
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 8:48 am
announcing a $14 million loss with more projected losses, the NZFRU is walking a fine line.
if they don’t win the world cup, combined with the complete saturation of rugby by the end of the tournament, i cant see much hope for them.
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 9:17 am
I’d take the SA bet out of those options.
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 9:36 am
The Meat eaters, the Convicts, the Frogs and the Chokers in that order. Hard to go past the Saffas but the Aussies have possibly the best in the world come cup time in Will Genia, hes like George Gregan only bigger and faster.
Vote:The All Blacks will struggle in the Tri Nations this year as well.
April 27th, 2010 at 9:42 am
The TAB betting only opens today. So these are simply the starting odds trying to attract bets across the spectrum, rather than a current indicator of likely winner. I’d guess that opening odds in Aus, Sa, England etc would be different, aimed at different markets.
If they opened with NZ the same as SA and Aus they would likely get a lot more money piling onto NZ.
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 9:49 am
The Ockers are targeting the WWE tournament and I expect them to beat the Poms in the final.
Having Carter and McCaw (Yes BB, not only is he a cheat but he’s a bloody good cheat, the best in the business by far) in the NZ “team” may just get them past the round-robin stage before the handicap of having a Jafa-tainted “coach” catches up with them.
Oh, and Big bruv, wrong again.
FULL NAME Wayne Ross Smith
Vote:BORN Friday, 19 April 1957 in Putaruru
April 27th, 2010 at 9:50 am
I expect SA to win it, as I am still not yet convinced on the All Blacks. Until they get the midfield sorted (and no longer play full backs at Centre like they did at last 3 World Cups) then there is 0 chance of them winning a World Cup.
Also if Henry and Co started to play our BEST 15 players for every game from this season onwards (and no longer rotate them and all that crap) then we might actually stand a chance, you have to take the risk of injury as that is what made the All Blacks of old so great…
And also we no longer have as many world class players playing in each position, not since about 97 have I been convinced that we had the best in the world in each position on a reliable basis…
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Tinman
Cry baby Smith is a naturalised Cantab, as you are well aware, they are some of the worst examples.
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 10:25 am
All you got to do is look at the Super 14 at the moment to see the answer to your question….
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 10:35 am
The Melbourne Storm rorting of the salary cap has got me thinking, while it is no surprise that this sort of thing goes on inside the game of bulrush given the high number of thugs and criminals who play, coach and support the game it does make me wonder why questions were not asked a lot earlier.
Under any socialist salary cap system a team that dominates for such a long period MUST be cheating the system somehow.
The NZRU need to start an immediate investigation into the Canterbury Union and it almost certain cheating of the NZRU salary cap.
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Keep digging a bigger hole for yourself big blouse. What a silly twit you are. Do you read the insanity you write?
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Shit the poms are even crazier than the TAB! ABs at even money!!
http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/EN/betting/g/8911/Outright.html
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
The AB’s are such favourites because of our home record – have a look at how often SA and Aus beat us in NZ. SA have done it a couple of times recently, but Aus last did it in 2001.
And for those talking up Australia so much, have you forgotten they have lost their last 8 games to us and recently lost to Scotland????
So the Reds have gone okay in the Super 14. Irrelevant. 1999, all NZ Super 12 final. 2003, all NZ Super 12 final. Had zero influence on tests. 1998, the All Blacks’ worst season in recent history, 3 NZ teams in the semis!! While I’m not writing off the Aussies completely, I’ll need more evidence that they are any good before giving them any chance.
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
All Blacks are talked up going into every world cup. Inevitably they choke – NZRFU marketing BS counts for very little on the field.
France and England feel like worthwhile bets out of those.
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Zapper the Aussies have a superior record in world cups than the ABs so do the Saffas and the Poms must be close. The Saffas will be confident of winning in NZ after last year and unfortunately for us having never lost to Scotland means nothing when it comes to winning the cup.
Vote:SA have lost to Scotland 4 times and won 2 World cups
Aussie have lost to Scotland 7 times and won 2 world cups
NZ have never lost to Scotland and have won one world cup, the one in the amateur era without the team that is tied for winning the most cups(SA).
We also havent lost to Ireland. Aussie and SA have
April 27th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
# big bruv (5998) Says:
April 27th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Tinman
Cry baby Smith is a naturalised Cantab, as you are well aware, they are some of the worst examples.
I don’t disagree with your point but you must be consistent.
Either the lying loser is a Jafa or the cry-baby is from your area of expertise.
On your other point I seriously hope you are correct and the Good Guys are rorting the sporting communism laughingly called the “salary cap”.
Like taxes it is every man’s (teams) duty to avoid (rort) such anachronisms.
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Remember there is aways “plan B”…the problem is the AB’s have difficulty remembering what that is.
After England got cleaned out in their first game in the last world cup they demonstrated their “plan B’ By going back to hard-fought physical grind, boring perhaps, but they got to the final.
Frankly, I don’t think our players are capable of this type of play any more.
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Pita – that is how big games are won. To win World Cup finals you need:
Discipline
A no8 who goes forward from both defensive and attacking scrums.
A 9 & 10 who control field position
A 12 who can cover at 10.
A goal kicker who doesn’t miss.
Someone to drop goals and a mindset to do it..
A coach who inspires players.
You are right our players do not know how to grind out wins. SA do and by the time we get to World Cup time the Aussies will and if we lose either McCaw, Carter or if Ali Williams does not come back as good as he was 3 seasons ago we are no chance.
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
So what you’re saying mikeysmokes, is that history has nothing to do with it – I agree. It is more related to who has the best team and a slice of luck.
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
We have ground out many wins in recent years – it’s a myth that we can’t
Vote:April 27th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Zapper – not in games that really matter.
Vote:April 28th, 2010 at 10:01 am
pdm agree I think discipline is the NUMBER One thing (as the others can’t always be under your control as the talent might not be available…)
But remember also to add to the list a proper world class Number 13 and no more fullbacks playing at 13 like at the last 3 World Cups (this hasn’t been a problem for us in World Cup finals, but it certainly has been crucial in terms of making World Cup finals in recent times)
I also think there is too much emphasis in recent years (since the 1999 World Cup campaign) on utility players and not enough world class players in each position, a world class player at 12 who can also cover 10 would be nice, I would prefer a world class player who can’t cover 10 than to a journey man (like Luke McAlister) who can play 12 and 10… The utilities should be on the bench not in the starting 15 as you need them there if someone comes off over a spread of anticipated positions.
I also think it is unlikely that we will lose McCaw as I don’t think he will be injury prone and will hopefully rise to the occasion (this will only happen if the pieces are all in place as opposed to France in 07).
On Carter I don’t think his form has been anywhere near up there since the Lions Series a few years back but it would be nice for him to get it all together, the next 3 season phases (i.e. Tri Nations, end of year tour and Tri Nations next year are crucial) for all the pieces to be there for him to get confidence again. Thankfully he is reliable but it would be nice to see him in amazing form again.
On Williams if we get in a situation that we think he has to be good (like ages ago – 3 years and counting) then that is a worry if he is the only one in the picture (if others are able to come up to the mark if he can’t find form again).
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