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game (Portugal v Spain) not finished yet BUT Ronaldo is an over paid show pony and he ref is the best I have seen so far .. all may change in next 10 mins of course and those fkg trumpets are getting on my nerves
The irony is Manolo that they are so often Progressives who have attacked the family unit for decades. Now they seek to repair the damage by turning to their great god of government. When it was government, mostly under their stewardship that was used as a political weapon to destroy the family and attack civilisation.
That we are now apparently a nation of knuckle dragging drunkards and drug addicts is all down to the very people who now seek to posture as our protectors and saviours.
I agree Murray. The guy has a 16-year history of offending when he is pissed, and was also convicted of assaulting his mother (while pissed). He deserves whatever he gets. There’s no controversy as far as I am concerned, and I’ve blogged accordingly.
Great article showing How Turkey has been turned by Islamists, well worth a read.
The question for policymakers, however, should not be whether Turkey is lost but rather how Erdogan could lead a slow-motion Islamic revolution below the West’s radar. This is both a testament to Erdogan’s skill and a reflection of Western delusion. Before taking power, Erdogan and his advisers cultivated Western opinion makers. He concentrated not on American pundits who found U.S. policy insufficiently leftist and sympathetic to the Islamic world but rather on natural critics, hawkish American supporters of Turkey and Israel who helped introduce Erdogan confidantes to Washington policymakers.
I find this report truly disturbing. What sort of level of “groping” earns a strike? What man hasn’t “groped” sometime? Like late in the night at a party, during a kiss under the mistletoe at a company bash, brushing past a hot babe in a bar and giving her left buttock a light pinch…even rubbing “inappropriately” while dancing.
While I agree with Murray’s (above) general sentiment, I do think it’s a matter of degree and environment.
If my wife was subjected, for example, to a drunken grope, depending on the actual circumstances and given the serious consequences now awaiting the offender if convicted, I would be loath to press charges, whereas before I would have happily agreed to the guy getting a wake up from the courts.
I wonder if the victim understood that this conviction could result in this person’s future long term incarceration for perhaps relatively minor offences, which may include the inevitable miscarriages of justice?
Prosecuting Sergeant Neill Ford told the court Mercer went to the victim’s house on June 11 after a night drinking and asked to use the toilet. He asked to stay the night and was allowed into the spare room, but later approached her in her bed and indecently assaulted her.
After she yelled out and threatened to call police, Mercer swore and called her a “slag” as he left. Mercer denied the assault when stopped by police.
This AGW stuff is completely out of hand. Why didn’t the woman who is a victim of a sex attack from Al Gore report the offence immediately??
“Later, she talked to friends, liberals like herself, who advised against telling police. One asked her “to just suck it up; otherwise, the world’s going to be destroyed from global warming.”
Me for a start, Luc. I’ve always managed to find people to consensually get my jollies with and have never been reduced to copping a feel as I go through a room. You sound charming, though. I imagine you’re like a Volkswagen at parties – just one clutch after another…
“For example, I met Helen Clark while I was in Wellington. I was invited to her official residence, and waved in by a lone policeman who didn’t even check who I was, then I had a barbecue with her. I congratulated her on the public’s enlightened attitudes towards racial issues, but she disagreed. She said to me that New Zealand was really a very racist country , and she was determined to do everything she could as prime minister to change that.”
Not content with the disappeared (almost) “reds under the beds” threat, he is just determined to find a new boogey man. And now that Turkey is no longer (probably temporarily) best friends with his favourite racist oppressor, Israel, it becomes a fair target.
Mike, Turkey is not upset with Israel because Turkey is an Islamic country with a democratically elected Islamic party in power. That’s democracy. It’s upset because it was shat upon (again) by a country it considered a friend but which carried out the first state attack on Turkish citizens in the 87 year history of the Republic of Turkey.
Erdogan withstood imprisonment and torture to arise victorious as the fairly elected leader of a former military dictatorship, and has since faced down the military to cement democracy in that country.
Just what worries you Mike? Osbama under your bed? (You know Obama’s a Muslim, don’t you? I heard it on Fox Noos)
Best way to end heavy drinking culture is to free up tax laws/compliance. People busy making cash/starting businesses don’t have time to be drunk or hungover.
It’s not his particular case that concerns me. It’s more the scope of the charge. This guy obviously has a problem, but I question whether it is one that warrants a long term imprisonment – and he will inevitably offend again unless some miracle worker takes him on.
Bearhunter, good on ya mate. I guess a different species of fur turns you on, huh? A step up from sheep?
From parliament’s question time yesterday, it appears Bill English can’t comprehend that he fucked up due process in handing 4.8 mil to his PEDA LTD buddies to squander on bullshit styled pasifika themed programmes that, in all likelihood, will not make one bit of difference to the apalling Pasifikan youth jobless stats.
I mean, who the hell decides to buy 4.8 mill of something from somebody then decide later what is they want to buy and how they want it delivered ?…Bill English thats who. Now thats all well and good if he’s using his own money but he’s not, he’s using OURS !!!
Our dear leader of finance thinks the public purse is his own to play fast and loose with, from paying himself to live in his own house, to dishing out unneccessary taxcuts to his fatcat mates and now rewarding some dodgy company in Auckland to play gatekeeper and pseudo gov’t agency to the Pasifika community under the guise of caring about poor jobless yoof.
Meanwhile, JR Pereira and Inga Tuigamala, the two men who will most profit from the handout are, according to pacificeyewitness.com, off on a gov’t sposored junket trip trade mission to China. Nice work if you can get, but i wonder what they’re going to trade with China ?….dead bodies and empty words being their relative real life trade expertise.
I’m reminded of the last time a grant for services to the ‘hiphop’ community was squandered on a junket trip with the ‘guilty’ party being spirited away to Australia away from the media heat generated at that election time to avoid embarassing the gov’t.
Given the runtime of this PEDA project (4 years) and the high level of scrutiny by the Pasifika community, i’d be using the time in China to give JR and Inga some media training to handle the jandal they’re surely gonna get when they get back. Playing the jolly brown humble christian isn’t going to cut it anymore.
As the close links between Tuigamala and PEDA LTD, and those of the PEDA extended family heirarchy to the National party are slowly exposed, it becomes plainly obvious that Bill English should either resign or scrap his promise to handover the dosh and put it up for recontesting to the wider community.
More likely though, he will downgrade the deliverable component of PEDA contract, in the way of real outcomes that may lead to jobs, in favour of more airy fairy Pasifika styled dataminining of people as statistics that then get referred to subcontracted agencies to up skill and train for the workplace, with ‘real’ jobs going to people like aspiring National party candidates Michael Jones and Inga Tuigamala to act as mentors and role models.
I imagine one big circle jerk of payoffs and bullshit with, I dare say, the only visible opportunities this scheme will create for Pasifikan youth being as cannon fodder in endless photo ops for ‘smile and wave’ to meet the lads hard at work, mentoring the yoof while raising their profile in the community for an easing into the cushy lifestyle of a list MP and tame Pasifikan lapdog that loves to linger in the halls of power, but is largely ineffectual apart from token windowdressing.
Good to see Russell Brown has decided to shine some more light on the PEDA issue on Media7 tonight. Every bit of illumination helps…
I think you’ll find that the groping didn’t earn the strike, in isolation, it was the tipping point. The man has a drinking problem and a history of assault while drunk. His missus says it’s not his fault, he was drunk. (Anything’s fine, as long as you’re drunk, huh?) The 3 strikes law is there to stop this kind of long running problem. The downside is that prisons will fill up pretty quick, because anyone who’s travelled much of NZ knows that there are large tracts of the country full of people damaged by drugs, alcohol, unfortunate life events and limited education. Their minds don’t work past an emotional/instinctual level. They can’t reason. They will never think ahead. They defy laws like toddlers against parental instructions. This was always going to be the problem. Blunt tool justice system meets specialised reality of NZ life. But how many assaults from a single person are ok? How many are OK when drunk? What exactly is the alternative?
If my wife was subjected, for example, to a drunken grope, depending on the actual circumstances and given the serious consequences now awaiting the offender if convicted, I would be loath to press charges, whereas before I would have happily agreed to the guy getting a wake up from the courts.
Luc, It’s bad enough that you defend groping, but you would be loath to press charges?!? Hardly the mindset of a supporter of women’s equality!. As a claimed supporter of such equality, how about you stop deciding what’s right for your wife and let her decide, mmm?
@ pollywog – if you want to be taken seriously, it’s probably better not to say things such as you did at The Standard th other day. To those who didn’t see it, pollywog suggested that it would have been funny if the media had chased Paula Bennett through the corridors of Parliament as they did with Chris Carter, and if she’d fallen down stairs and died. I kid you not!
It certainly gives pollywog a credibility issue, don’t you think?
“I guess a different species of fur turns you on, huh? A step up from sheep?”
Wrong sort of bears. And I’m not a sheepshagger either, comes from not being born here. So you like to rub up against people in crowded trains as well Luc? Or do you just like to leave a trailing hand as you move through crowded rooms? Classy, Luc, real classy.
According to the Herald. So much for the disgraceful government of the party of “lower” taxes.
“Petrol prices will rise tomorrow as the Government’s emissions trading scheme hits households and businesses already facing rising costs that threaten to cancel out the gains from October’s tax cuts. The Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) takes effect on transport, the energy sector and industry tomorrow, and the Government is predicting petrol prices will rise 3.1c a litre and diesel 3.3c a litre.
But the introduction of the ETS tomorrow comes as international oil prices are falling. At about US$78 a barrel, crude oil is down about 6.6 per cent over the past three months because of signs the economic recovery in developed countries is slowing.
The ETS will also add as much as 5 per cent to electricity prices and 0.4 per cent to inflation.
Prime Minister John Key and his ministers this week cautioned power companies against using the ETS as an excuse to raise prices unnecessarily.
Households and businesses also face other rising costs in the form of October’s GST increase, and higher ACC levies and vehicle registration fees. But Mr Key said taxpayers would still be ahead as wage increases were expected to outstrip overall inflation.”
PHILU … It does sound hilarious to normal thinking people although I guess she thinks that her personal private income would be better if the government was out of things even if she was loosing her govt. pension and healthcare.
What sot of specimen goes around groping women against their will and calls himself a man? A steaming left wing arsehole apparently.
There is nothing that socialists wont defend in order to expound the virtues of their failed ideology.
To be fair, you can be a right wing arsehole too.
hell you can be an arsehole period, politics doesn’t necessarily come into it.
Character will out in the end.
Have we all done stupid things?
Would we rewind if we could on some parts of our lives?
It is the repeating them or condoning them that marks you as a plank.
“..although I guess she thinks that her personal private income would be better if the government was out of things even if she was loosing her govt. pension and healthcare…”
um..!…
barking/gibbering…totally batshit-crazy..
kinda like redbumbiter in drag..
she is one of those tea-party clowns-with-signs…that the ‘organisers’ bus from spotaneous/’populist’-demonstration…
This is a very simple thing so I will try to use short words and as few syllables as possible (maybe even you will then be able to grasp it.)
The man commited a crime. The crime is on the list for 3 strikes. Ergo it is not a “relatively minor offence”.
If he doesn’t want to spend a great deal of time in jail then it would be in his own interests not to offend. (It look like it might also be in his own interests to look at his drinking.)
Why don’t we extend it to all crimes?
Don’t we want to discourage crime per se?
Not all crime is impulsive by nature.
It is the heart value that allows someone to think they are above the law or won’t get caught that needs to be dealt with.
education doesn’t cut it.
Consequences and showing societal disapproval in making them felt does.
wot…?…brown is going to use media7 to do some actual ‘hard news’..?
that’ll be a first..!
..eh..?
hold tight my negro…i’m reserving judgment til after the show
What i’m struggling with though, is the reluctance of mainstream media to blow this issue up for the scandal it is ?
It started with an inoccuous mention in the budget and some initial questions by the Samoan Labour MP Su’a William Sio directed at Minister for PI affairs Georgina Te Heu Heu. She couldn’t answer cos it turns out it was Bill English who hooked the PEDA bro’s up.
So next question time, Deputy Labour leader, Annette King asks Bill a few choice questions, to which he sputters some shit about caring for jobless Pasifikan youth *cough* bullshit*cough…yeah right
and now the Leader of the Opposition, in question time yesterday, asks the first question of Bill, in effect saying “What’s the deal ?” and even with his boss in tow beside him for moral support Bill can’t answer what it is they bought off PEDA LTD, why them and how it’s going to be delivered ?
WTF ???..if thats not a poltical story of cover up, intrigue and scandal then let’s throw this in the mix as well.
In between the parliamentary sideshow, a leading Pasifikan broadcaster, Efeso Collins, has been ‘rested’ from his job for publically calling to account the process and personell involved in this shonkey piece ‘privatisation’ by stealth and cronyism. Incidentally the brother of the company awarded the funds is the boss of the radio station which rests the broadcaster…hmmmm ?
As if thats not enough, a witch hunt has been started to find the government leak who rightfully exposed this crap to the public…like shooting the messenger in this case will make the whole thing go away.
I can understand the right leaning commenters here not being able to defend the indefensible in standing up for Bill Englishs failings yet again, but surely this is in the wider public’s interest to know how Bill is frivolously dishing out our dosh and thus worthy of wider mainstream media coverage ?…not just the invisible underclass token media of the Pasifikan community because it’s not just a Pasifikan issue anymore.
About time Dunkin’ Garner pulled his head out of Chris Carters arse and started looking around for the real stench of corruption and abuse of privilege and he need look no further than the PEDA LTD debacle….don’t you think ?
I expect an angry ETS meeting tonight, and one stacked with eco-pinko-liberals to counter the voice of the back-stabbed National supporters
A question for Nick Smith tonight:
“Dr Smith, Al Gore has demonized carbon and then become wealthy from carbon trading. Rajendra Pachauri, head of the IPCC has become wealthy from carbon related business interests, notably Tata steel contracts moving from Europe to India. It seems the most senior and most vocal proponents of impending carbon doom are profiting enormously from their prognostications.
And so, as New Zealand’s most senior and most staunch advocate of carbon trading and taxation-driven management of global climate, the following question is appropriate:
Dr Smith, can you go on record and categorically state that neither you nor interests closely associated with you have any pecuniary interest in carbon trading and, further, will you fully open your personal and family trust investments to public scrutiny to confirm your assertion in this regard?”
I wrote to my “local” MP, Michael Woodhouse and warned him that the ETS had ensured I wouldn’t be renewing my membership nor favouring National with my party vote in the next election.
His reply was that the National Government were only doing what had been campaigned on, and that their scheme was significantly less costly than Labour’s.
While the reply was certainly the party line, I hope on some level that the message of dissatisfaction is getting through (particularly with those borderline list MPs).
Actually they campaigned on NOT being Helen Clark.
The baggage they brought along is their own (yet seemingly borrowed from Clark) and if they choose not to listen to the warning bells then its at their peril.
It is the heart value that allows someone to think they are above the law or won’t get caught that needs to be dealt with.
I agree. Let’s hope the three-strikes is a success and then we can vote for it to be increased to cover less serious offences (it should have included burglaries from the get-go IMHO).
There’s a relationship between minor and major offences; people doing the former often end up doing the latter. E.g. our law still has the quaint notion that burglaries are property crimes committed by likeable rogues, yet there’s now a lot of evidence that home invasion/burglaries are a common stepping stone for violent criminals.
With Len [Jesus] Brown falling apart at the seams, and John Banks talking about hosting the Olympics in Auckland, as possibly stopping his campaign dead in its tracks, who else is left for Mayor of the Super City?
To those still not sceptical about recent claims of NZ mineral riches, please read this article from the Canadian Financial Post about the Afghan mineral riches bulldust. I found it through Dennis Dutton’s great web site Arts and Letters Daily (aldaily.com)
You dodged the question, Phil. And you raised the topic of floggings in the first place. So again: Do you think a public flogging would have been helpful in diverting you from the path of becoming a drug addict, armed robber and now a perpetual bludger (i.e. unarmed robbery)?
Manolo , if you are going to the meeting tonight please give the useful idiot heaps. I find it incredible that the general public seem to be waking form their slumber, way to little way to late. Would love to have given the arsehole his pedigree but it seems our area was not on the meeting list, fucking scumbags. I’ll never vote for the pricks again.
However abhorrent, this tirade does have the virtue of truthfulness. Shahzad’s willingness to name his Islamic purposes and spend long years in jail for them flies in the face of Obama administration efforts not to name Islamism as the enemy, preferring such lame formulations as “overseas contingency operations” and “man-caused disasters.”
Americans – as well as Westerners generally, all non-Muslims, and anti-Islamist Muslims – should listen to the bald declaration by Faisal Shahzad and accept the painful fact that Islamist anger and aspirations truly do motivate their terrorist enemies. Ignoring this fact will not make it disappear.
“Mercury’s general manager James Munro conceded in a radio interview today that the exact impact of the ETS on power prices was impossible to calculate accurately, despite a statement last month that its tariffs would rise to reflect the ETS from July 1.”
So they are raising prices but don’t fucking know an exact impact of the ETS?
“Competition watchdog, the Commerce Commission, is warning businesses they face potential court action under the Fair Trading Act if they misrepresent price rises as being caused by the Emissions Trading Scheme or the increase in GST.”
That’s good, but …
” “Businesses are not required by law to give reasons when they raise prices,” said the commission, in what it described as a pre-emptive statement, although two electricity companies – Contact Energy and Mercury Energy – have already cited the ETS as a partial reason for raising tariffs.”
And, for some reason, the power company has a liability under the ETS so passes penalty costs on to the consumer.
Finally I guess they will take measures to stop whatever emissions they are responsible for, so the costs of that too will be passed on to the consumer [ Contact says it will raise prices to reflect the ETS impact, but that it is raising prices by between 10 percent and 17 percent in Dunedin at present because of "costs of generating electricity, building new power stations, purchasing gas, and providing retail services." ]
Why have an ETS? What not just fix the faults in power generation to start with?
Otherwise we pay the EST and the improvements.
Nick Steenhout regards it as a public service. He publishes photos of cars parked illegally in disabled parking spots. But on Saturday, wheelchair bound Nick got more than he bargained for when he confronted a woman for parking in a disabled carpark outside a supermarket.
John Banks has just suggested a proposal of launching an Auckland-NZ bid to host the 2020 Olympic Games. One thing he failed to mention is how the money will talk for such a preposterous proposal, the 2016 Olympics is being hosted on a budget of $17 Billion US Dollars, $1.8 billion on security alone.
By 2020 I expect the cost of hosting these games to be slightly higher, which to put it bluntly is money Auckland and (all of New Zealand combined) just does not have.
I expected better economic logic from the likes of John Banks, especially as he campaigns to take charge of Auckland’s purse strings from November (or whatever’s left of it anyway).
I should also mention that Len Brown has slammed the idea. I would call this idea economically reckless, outrageously stupid and foolishly pathetic!
Banks has gone mad! He has joined the legion of stupid politicians and local authorities, who dream of spending our money on grandiose plans instead on concetrating doing the basics well.
Do we deserve these clowns? Yes, since we elected them.
Yep Krusty sure seems to be well qualified for the job.
“Krusty wastes money almost as fast as he earns it: lighting his cigarettes with hundred-dollar bills; eating condor-egg omelets; spending huge sums on pornographic magazines; and losing a fortune gambling on everything from horse races to operas to betting against the Harlem Globetrotters.[12]”
Could even be a shoo in as a Labour MP if he misses out on the Mayors job.
#1 GLENN BECK
#2 SARAH PALIN
#3 RUSH LIMBAUGH
#4 GEORGE W. BUSH
#5 ANN COULTER
#6 MICHELLE MALKIN
#7 THE TEA PARTY PATRIOTS
#8 DICK CHENEY
#9 BILL O’REILLY
#10 MICHELE BACHMANN
#11 KARL ROVE
#12 SEAN HANNITY
#13 MATT DRUDGE
#14 NEWT GINGRICH
#15 ANDREW BREITBART
#16 MARK LEVIN
#17 LAURA INGRAHAM
#18 ROGER AILES
#19 CLARENCE THOMAS
#20 RUPERT MURDOCH
Correction – there’s a hundred, concocted by those who want to portray themselves as hated for publicity.
The list has been constructed by the right, and is promoted by the number 1 wannabee on the list:
media.glennbeck.com/docs/100americans-pg1.pdf
The poor wee self made victims, trying to make out they are battling some supposed “left” enemy. I wonder what victim would try and promote it here.
I see Luc Hanson reaches new lows on this thread. Some readers may be interested in what Luc, who claims to be a man, had to say on a recent thread about desirable times for copulation:
Luc Hansen (1610) Says:
June 26th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Well, since it’s late, I can tell you guys and gals that threesomes, foursomes and moresomes, in which I indulged in a previous life, are all life enhancing.
And it’s not time that enables a women to squirt. It’s the combination of passion and technique! I’ve experience the squirt, that lovely warm flood, as early as two minutes into copulation.
5 Smoking in workplaces prohibited
(1) An employer must take all reasonably practicable steps to ensure that no person smokes at any time in a workplace that is not—
(a) a vehicle in which smoking is permitted under section 5A; or
(b) a dedicated smoking room in which smoking is permitted under section 6.
(2) No employee or volunteer may smoke at any time in a workplace that is not a vehicle in which smoking is permitted under section 5A.
Section 5: substituted, on 10 December 2004, by section 5 of the Smoke-free Environments Amendment Act 2003 (2003 No 127).
6A Smoking in prison cells
(1) The superintendent of a prison must ensure that there is a written policy on smoking in the prison’s cells, prepared for the protection of the health of employees and inmates.
(2) The policy—
(a) must be based on the principles that—
(i) as far as is reasonably practicable, an employee or inmate who does not smoke, or does not wish to smoke in the prison, must be protected from smoke arising from smoking in the prison’s cells:
(ii) unless it is not reasonably practicable to do other wise, an inmate who does not wish to smoke in his or her cell must not be required to share it with an inmate who does wish to smoke in it; and
(b) must state the procedure for making complaints under this Part.
(3) The superintendent—
(a) must ensure that the policy complies with subsection (2); and
(b) must take all reasonably practicable steps to ensure that the policy is complied with.
Section 6A: inserted, on 10 December 2004, by section 5 of the Smoke-free Environments Amendment Act 2003 (2003 No 127).
Fuck, one has to laugh, we have people saying do not vote Labour or Nats because they are bloody useless.
Nope, people should vote for a party whose leader rants on TV that he was entitled to the use of tax payers money for trips.
Just how the fuck are the ACT types any fucking different ?
Turkey versus Israel, now that could get interesting if Turkey decides to build it’s own nukes instead of just storing some yank ones.
How paranoid would that make Israel ?
Just how the fuck are the ACT types any fucking different ?
@Gumpy – If you assume all poli’s the same in terms of self-servingness (I don’t, but that’s a view you may hold), then setting that realization aside the question is what’s best for NZ in the long term?
If you think a continued bloating of the state, new taxes, and an overall diminishment of productivity and growth is a good thing, then vote National or Labour. If you think that’s a bloody good idea.. and that Marx was a top guy, then vote Green.
However if you want to expand NZ’s economy, to promote productivity and growth for the benefit of all NZers, then party vote ACT.
Ha ha, thanks guys. I knew those wind-up comments would excite you all. So predictable.
Now, did I tell you about that gang rape I took part in one dark and stormy night?
Meanwhile, I see that:
1. The groper’s wife has come out in support of her man and my contention that the the potential eventual punishment for this drunken escapade may, and I emphasise the word may, not fit the crime. Just as in some rape and domestic violence cases, men are going to become innocent victims of false accusations.
I expect this to become increasingly prevalent as time marches on and eventually the law will be altered to ameliorate the most egregious injustices.
2. Bill O’Reilly advocated on today’s show that Obama should order wanton killing in the AFPAK conflict zone – bullets in the backs of heads, executions, in other words. Where has the man been hiding? What does he think the US and their cohorts have been doing these last nine years – playing tiddlywinks? And of course we can all see just how successful that particulare strategy has been, can’t we?
3. I see Al Gore has been accused of groping so I get that just proves that AGW is a con, right?
Time to go and bath the baby. Do have fun while I’m away and keep that towel handy.
1. Sir Roger Douglas
2. John Key
3. Rodney Hide
4. Paula Bennett
5. Whaleoil
6. Sir William Birch
7. Ruth Richardson
8. Owen Glenn :-p
9. John Banks
10. Leighton Smith
11. to 20. (fill with other random Act and Nat MPs)
Luc Hands-on 1. The groper’s wife has come out in support of her man and my contention that the the potential eventual punishment for this drunken escapade may, and I emphasise the word may, not fit the crime. Just as in some rape and domestic violence cases, men are going to become innocent victims of false accusations.
What ? Since when did the opinions of a criminal’s spouse have any bearing on the serverity of the crime ? Surely the only interests that matter here are justice for the victim and the protection of society at large ? If you get murdered tonight should the murderer get a lesser sentence if his wife thinks he’s an ok guy ? You’re clutching at straws to try to extricate yourself from an indefensible position.
Grumpy
I said to be National’s minder.
That’s so they (National) don’t go all Labour lite and give the rest of you a continuance of the previous 10yrs screwing over NZ got.
Did you read the article at Commentary magazine I linked to, or are you just a dimwit anti-Semite?
Israel is already paranoid, you would be too, if you faced death since your inception from both your so called friends stupidity or lies and hypocrisy and your enemies.
At least their enemies have openly stated what they are about.
What is fraught is your so called friends are becoming Dhimmis one by one, but are too proud and stupid to realise it.
krazykiwi yes I do believe all politicians are a self serving bunch with a very few exceptions, and neither Hide not Douglas come into those exceptions
Now you seem to be stating that we voters should support a party whose leader seems to be ruled by the mantra, do as I say not as I do.
ACT against socialism, so why the fuck are they part of a socialistic coalition ?
Or is it those minister’s cars etc ?
Someone was saying the other day there’s actually more freedom there. What kind of lame dumbfucks vote themselves into tyranny?? What an abuse of democracy.
@grumpy – No vote is a pure ‘win’ for me. I suspect this sentiment may be shared by quite a few (most?) voters. So there’s upside and downside. I weigh the options and choose to party vote ACT. That’s a better choice than would be abstaining IMO.
MikeNZ anti-Semite, you seem confused about that, a fair proportion of those who practice the Jewish faith in Israel are not Semite, but the majority of Arabs in the area are Semite.
There has been some interesting DNA studies on it.
The magazine article, seems to be stating that the Islamic faith should have no input into Turkish political life but ignores the fact that Israel is a country where the Jewish faith does have a bit of input into political life.
Not smart of Israel to get the Turks peefed, unlike some Muslims they are one bunch who can do a bayonet charge from hell.
If Israeli army decide to have another summer tour in Lebanon they could well find themselves facing a couple of hundred thousand Turks.
Phool you really seem like you’re typing with one hand when you start hyperventilating and drooling about these non-existent riots and countdowns to disaster and other products of your drug-abused brain. Some states in Oz have done it. 25 states in the US have done it ( even Virginia… ), maybe you could give us a rundown of the death toll so far ?
phool – “i used pot to ease me thru nicotine-withdrawals….”
He swallowed the spider to catch the fly. I don’t know why he swallowed the fly. Probably just a bit thick ?
Government introduces new tax causing Government owned enterprises to increase prices. Government then warns said Government owned enterprises not to increase the price too much or they’ll fine em. What’s the name of this game?
Genesis Energy, just quoted on ONE NEWS, has said they will not raise prices yet “until they know the true cost of the ETS” to them. The implication here is that those raising costs form tomorrow, are not passing on a cost but hedging against one. Surely this already qualifies for Commerce Commission questioning.
redeye – another angle on tax increases: Owners of state integrated schools (Catholic, Christian, Rudolf Steiner etc) are contracted to charge attendance dues inclusive of GST to a maximum amount which is inclusive of GST. This means the GST increase must be absorbed by the schools and can not be passed on. I’m investigating further.
WebWrat , yes old Shonkey thinks Al’s the bees knees. Al Bore came to NZ some years ago to show the ruling elite his piece of shit ” The Inconvenient Truth”. Seems old Shonkey had some sort of eureka moment and came out of the theater claiming the world is fucked and Al is God. As I said one born every minute. I just wish someone would tell Shonkey the truth according to Al should be taken with a very small grain of salt..
Misleading Statement Number 1
In the next 12 months the government has to pay $1.1 billion to foresters, in the form of emissions credits for forests planted since 1990.
The Truth
Nick Smith’s own officials confirmed to me that this was not correct. This figure is a combination of payments for both pre 1990 forests and post 1989 forests. And there is a very important difference. The first is a lump sum; non-recurring payment ($420 million) and the second ($685 million) covers forests planted in 2008, 2009 and 2010 and has an ongoing recurring element Also, those who planted forests in the 1990s and early 2000’s did so without any expectation of emissions credits or subsidies from their fellow taxpayers.
The governments budget documents this year also showed that the payment due to foresters who planted post-1990, is $1.6 billion over the years 2008-2012 . This $1.6 billion is based on an assumption that 67 percent of eligible post-1989 foresters will take up their entitlement. Unfortunately for National, government officials have advised me that recent projections show that some 87 percent of foresters may now be planning to take up their entitlement. If this happens, the $1.6 billion will blow out to over $2 billion.
When will they come clean on that?
These subsidies will go to New Zealand and foreign-owned forests alike. These payouts will be funded by all New Zealanders, forced to pay more for electricity and fuel – and all for no environmental gain whatsoever!!
ACT says we should defer the ETS and compensate foresters who planted after the forestry aspect of the ETS came into effect on 1 January, 2008, because they did so with the expectation that they would receive carbon credits from the government. So it is only fair to compensate them. That would cost no more than $20 million and would be a much cheaper option.
Misleading Statement Number 2
The Government’s revenue in the first year from the ETS will be about $350 million.
The Truth
Nick Smith’s officials also confirmed to me that this figure excludes the windfall profit gains from the three government owned electricity generators. So Act expects the government revenue from the ETS will be in excess of $500 million pa
Misleading Statement 3
New Zealand is not leading the world with our ETS, because 29 other countries have one.
The Truth
The New Zealand ETS is a single country scheme; no other country in the world has a single country scheme. The European Union as a trading bloc has a scheme which covers 29 countries. The European ETS imposes costs on the entire European trading bloc and 80 percent of European exports are internal, only 20 % go outside of Europe. In contrast, 85% of New Zealand’s exports go to countries that do not have an ETS. New Zealand truly leads the world, in penalising our exporters and farmers, all for no environmental gain. The European ETS also excludes major parts of their economy, whereas our government has been very proud of the fact that our all gases/all sectors ETS is a world first.
Misleading Statement 4
New data shows that the moderated ETS has reversed the trend of deforestation which was a major worry under Labour.
The Truth
New Zealand’s plantation forest area grew extensively through the 1990s. In the lead up to 1 January, 2008, there was excessive harvesting of forests, only because people rushed to fell them before January 1 so they wouldn’t be subject to a bill of $17,000 per hectare. This would never have happened if it weren’t for the ETS.
Misleading Statement 5
National’s development and implementation of the ETS is in line with National’s 2008 election policy.
The Truth
It is true that National said they would continue with an ETS albeit an amended version. ACT was the only party last election who campaigned to “dump the ETS”. However, bear in mind that John Key also said in October 2008; “we shouldn’t be the world leader because that will come at the expense of our economy”.
Since the election, many things have changed. We are now the only single country with an all encompassing ETS. We are now world leaders.
Misleading Statement 6
In response to ACT’s statements about carbon taxes on petrol, you will be told that “29 countries have implemented an ETS. Most of the schemes include some kind of coverage of petrol, diesel and electricity generation.”
The Truth
The UK – has a carbon tax on petrol but it does not apply to the transport or domestic sector.
Sweden – has a carbon tax on petrol and its introduction coincided with a major tax reform with the aim to reduce taxes on income and capital and to increase environmental taxes.
Norway – has a carbon tax on all fossil fuels but some industry sectors were granted exemptions to preserve their competitive position.
Denmark – has a carbon tax on diesel only and does not cover the transport sector.
Finland –has a carbon tax covering fuels used for heating and transportation.
Ireland- has recently introduced a tax on petrol and auto-diesel which includes the transport sector but excludes the 12,000 installations, covering industrial and stationary energy activities already covered by the EU ETS
So of the 29 countries that come under the umbrella of the European ETS, only three have a carbon tax on petrol that covers the domestic sector. Nick Smith stretches the truth when he claims that “Most of the schemes include some kind of coverage of petrol…”
Outside of Europe Quebec has a small carbon tax on petrol of 0.8 cents per litre.
Misleading Statement 7
The Government views this issue as one of risk management. There are uncertainties in the science, just as there are over earthquakes, but the prudent approach is to take steps to reduce the risks.’
The Truth
This is ridiculous. Not only are there uncertainties over whether global warming is occurring – and if so, whether it is man-made – everyone agrees New Zealand is too small to make any difference to world climate. The Prime Minister’s own Chief Science Advisor Professor Sir Peter Gluckman has said ‘anything we do as a nation will in itself have little impact on the climate – our impact will be symbolic, moral and political.
Misleading Statement 8
The government is also conscious of concerns specific to New Zealand’s economic resilience, namely the high value consumer markets where issues of carbon footprint pose a long term risk to our key export industries.
The Truth
49% of New Zealand’s exports go to our top 4 trading partners, Australia, United States of America, People’s Republic of China and Japan. These total $18 billion per annum or 48.5 % of our total exports. None of these countries have an ETS and are unlikely to ever have one. Our exports to all of the EU countries combined total $5 billion per annum or 14.3 % of the total.
No Friend of Dissent: Like many Pakeha politicians who have embraced the Maori Nationalist cause, Attorney General, and Treaty Negotiations Minister, Chris Finlayson, reserves his most deadly venom for those who dare to question the State’s race relations policies.
AM I THE ONLY New Zealander feeling less than a respected citizen today? Or that the full and equal protection of the laws no longer applies to me? Am I alone in suspecting that, constitutionally-speaking, something important is about to take place – without the nation’s consent?
What set me to pondering these questions was an extraordinary interview broadcast by Radio New Zealand on Tuesday morning.
Morning Report’s Geoff Robinson was talking to Treaty Negotiations Minister, Chris Finlayson, about the agreement secured between National and the Maori Party over the repeal of the Foreshore & Seabed Act.
Preceding the interview listeners had heard reactions to that agreement from Dr Grant Morris, a law lecturer at Victoria University. Michael Barnett, CEO of the Auckland Chamber of Commerce. And Hugh Barr, spokesperson for the Coastal Coalition – a group devoted to preserving public access to New Zealand’s beaches.
All of these men had expressed critical views of the National-Maori Party deal and Finlayson had been asked to respond to their remarks.
What followed was extraordinary.
Rather than address the trio’s arguments, the Treaty Negotiations Minister immediately launched into a series of aggressive put-downs of his critics.
“I didn’t know that Grant Morris knew anything about this subject,” sneered the Minister, “I thought his specialty was legal systems or feminist legal studies.” Michael Barnett, according to Finlayson was “just sounding off because it’s Tuesday morning”. Hugh Barr received a ministerial tongue-lashing for “writing some crummy article in The Dominion Post which contradicted everything I had told him.”
Huffed Finlayson: “I can’t be bothered wasting my time with him.”
But, oh, what a difference a change of ethnicity produced in the Minister. When Morning Report asked for his reaction to the Maori MP, Hone Harawira’s, charge that the whole consultation exercise surrounding the Foreshore & Seabed issue had been “bullshit”, the Minister couldn’t have been sweeter:
“I’m a bit disappointed in Hone,” crooned Finlayson, “because in my opinion he’s a first class chap, and he’s a fantastic MP for the Far North, with John Carter. But one of the things I picked up, from his rohe [tribal territory] actually, was the idea that folk didn’t want to have to go to court, or negotiate, to prove their mana. And I thought that was a fair enough point. So, we’ve added in the universal recognition order as a result of that. So, I think Hone’s a little unfair, with the greatest of respect to him, because I was listening and I was the one who was up on the road hearing what people were saying.”
The contrast: in the Minister’s tone; in his careful choice of words; and most particularly in the extreme care he took not to give offence; was, to say the least, instructive.
The Minister’s Pakeha critics: the CEO of the Auckland Chamber of Commerce (an institution not noted for its hostility to National governments); a university lecturer whose comments were measured and utterly lacking in any kind of personal animus; and a champion of New Zealanders’ right to recreate themselves amidst this country’s spectacular natural beauty; were all the recipients of Finlayson’s disdain, and he expended no serious effort responding to their arguments or questions.
How different it was for the Te Tai Tokerau MP. The man who infamously referred to his fellow New Zealanders as “White Motherf***ers” was responded to with “the greatest of respect” because, in the assessment of the Treaty Negotiations Minister, he is “a first class chap” and, like his colleague, John Carter (the National MP who once impersonated a Maori dole-bludger on John Banks’ Radio Pacific talk-back show) is “a fantastic MP for the Far North”.
The Minister’s Pakeha critics had dared to suggest that the interests of thousands of New Zealanders had been sidelined in the Government’s rush to reach an agreement with the Maori Party.
As Mr Barnett observed: “We still don‘t know what contact has been made with the recreational and conservation interests, the business interests, the local government interests. But we do know that Government has been dealing with Maori, and that it doesn’t seem to be the so-called ‘balanced’ conversation that they suggested that they were going to have.”
Mr Harawira colourfully described this one-sided process as “pandering to the rednecks”.
*Roll Back: G20 Summit Drops Green Energy Pledge
Deutsche Presse Agentur, 28 June 2010
The leaders of the world’s 20 most powerful developed and developing states (G20) on Sunday dropped a pledge to invest in climate-friendly energy generation from their final summit statement.
Climate change topped the world agenda last year, but was eclipsed after the relative failure of a massive summit in Copenhagen in December. The G20′s decision further tones down international pledges to invest in the fight against global warming.
Earlier drafts of the statement for the summit, which brought together the leaders of key states such as China, India and the United States, said that G20 members “reiterate our commitment to … investments in clean energy.”
But that phrase was left out of the final version, which instead reiterated leaders’ “commitment to a green recovery and to sustainable global growth.”
G20 members are deeply at odds over the climate question. The European Union and Japan have already pledged to make deep greenhouse-gas emissions cuts, but other developed and developing states are at odds over the question of who should do how much.
“The issue shows that the G20 can’t do everything,” one diplomat commented drily.
Hey Philip, I’d ask why TVNZ is using taxpayers money to show MSNBC filth on TVNZ7, a channel all of about 20 people watch, when we should all be tightening our belts. Heard of that, Philip? How have you altered your budget to prevent any profligate spending? We’re all in this together after all. Communalism forever!
The best thing about power companies raising power prices for the ETS is that we make 70% of our power from renewables ( hydro, steam, wind), but because of the way the industry is set up, with the auction system, the highest price offered from, for example, companies with a coal fired station that need to pay for carbon credits, is the price that everyone gets. So companies that produce power from hydro, steam or wind get a windfall as they don’t need to pay for carbon credits but still get the equivalent price as companies that do.
In other words, the consumer (that’s us) is paying extra for the 70% of power that doesn’t attract a carbon charge. Good huh? Funnily enough, the honest ‘for the people’ good guys n gals in the National party have forgotten to mention this to us peasants.
Anyone want to guess who owns the majority of the non carbon tax attracting power producing companies?
National have lost my vote forever, what a bunch of gutless wankers. I would rather have Labour in power at the moment, at last they make no secret of being socialist, instead of a bunch of empty suits like National. “Hollow men”, one might call them
I agree entirely Nick. National appear to believe that once they have been elected, they are free to treat those who voted for them as fools.
There is only one way to disabuse them of this notion and that is to kick them out. Give them the message that treachery has a cost, and they will not be elected ever again until their party is cleared of left wingers, and prepared to provide a real opposition to Labour.
Labour at least are true to their left wing beliefs. These National people are just utterly disgusting in their lack of purpose, principle and mission.
Heartily agree.
Nick Smith especially exudes an attitude that he has been supremely annointed by god to be our ruler, and that we should be ever grateful, and dare not question his ETS.
I have a good idea for some anti-National billboards. They should go something like this.
1. Going down:
Income tax (marginally)
2. Going up:
GST
Petrol prices
Gas prices
Electricity prices
Tobacco prices
Alcohol prices
ACC earners levy
Car registrations
Motorcycle registrations
Inflation
Interest rates
Government (meaning your childrens’) debt
Rates
@nickb – No … I chair a charitable trust and our quarterly funding meeting was this evening. Not happy. Just home now. Very keen to hear how the ETS obfuscation meeting went. Anyone?
And there I was thinking you’d RIPed me phil. I’m touched. Honestly.
Now, why did you lie to us all in claming that you had no internet access from your home? Why must you now ‘stay home’ to look after your son when a few years back you attended Akl Uni? And if you ‘stay home’ where there’s no internet how do you blog so much?
MSD says: “Most people are honest and use Government services fairly. If you have information about someone who is misusing any of our services, please contact us. Call us on 0800 556 006”
For newcomers here I’d encourage you to help phil into a job. It will improve his self esteem and it would mean that more benefit money was available for the truly needy.
By way of background Phillip Ure lives in Auckland, has an MA in Political Science and is on the DBP which we claims is essential for the care of his teenage son who is a student. Phil has a history of drug abuse and has spent some time in prison, but despite what others here may say, he does have a functioning brain and is perfectly capable of working for a living. He just chooses not to work, and that people is benefit fraud.
Police boss told his time is up
By ANDREA VANCE – The Dominion Post
Last updated 05:00 01/07/2010
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HOWARD BROAD: Served in uniform and with the CIB for about 18 years before moving into policy, planning and strategy roles at national headquarters. In 1999, he became district commander of the Auckland City Police District. In 2003-04, he was seconded to the Police Standards Unit in the British Home Office and, in 2004, appointed assistant commissioner. He has a law degree and qualifications in police management.
Police Commissioner Broad to step down next year
New Zealand’s top cop has been axed. In a meeting with Police Minister Judith Collins this week, police commissioner Howard Broad learned she will not extend his contract. He will leave in March.
It is understood Mr Broad had been hoping the minister would continue his tenure, which is due to finish in April. He is one of the public service’s top earners, receiving between $490,000 and $499,999 a year.
June 30th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Oh yes…
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:09 am
game (Portugal v Spain) not finished yet BUT Ronaldo is an over paid show pony and he ref is the best I have seen so far .. all may change in next 10 mins of course and those fkg trumpets are getting on my nerves
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Doesn’t that prepubescent puke Clinton Smith work in the parliamentary library?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10655408
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:13 am
I detest these wowsers: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3863456/Prominent-Kiwis-call-for-drinking-culture-reform
Vote:Most of them are leftiies, parasite politicians, and even sport personalities.
June 30th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Where would we be without talentless “celebrities” to tell us how to live our lives Manolo?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Dwayne Mercer makes history – recipient of the first “strike” …
http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2010/06/strike-one.html
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:21 am
The irony is Manolo that they are so often Progressives who have attacked the family unit for decades. Now they seek to repair the damage by turning to their great god of government. When it was government, mostly under their stewardship that was used as a political weapon to destroy the family and attack civilisation.
That we are now apparently a nation of knuckle dragging drunkards and drug addicts is all down to the very people who now seek to posture as our protectors and saviours.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:22 am
What makes something “controversial” Inv? Seems like whatever it is that the media doesn’t agree with gets that label.
Personally if the prick had sexually assulted my wife he’d be bettwer off in prison where I couldn’t get to him.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:24 am
ETS meeting in Wellington (Duxton Hotel) tonight at 7pm. Smith will be defending the new tax to what I expect to be a hostile audience.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Bang on, Redbaiter.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:36 am
I agree Murray. The guy has a 16-year history of offending when he is pissed, and was also convicted of assaulting his mother (while pissed). He deserves whatever he gets. There’s no controversy as far as I am concerned, and I’ve blogged accordingly.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:38 am
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/turkey–from-ally-to-enemy-15464
Great article showing How Turkey has been turned by Islamists, well worth a read.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:44 am
IV2 @ 8.18
I find this report truly disturbing. What sort of level of “groping” earns a strike? What man hasn’t “groped” sometime? Like late in the night at a party, during a kiss under the mistletoe at a company bash, brushing past a hot babe in a bar and giving her left buttock a light pinch…even rubbing “inappropriately” while dancing.
While I agree with Murray’s (above) general sentiment, I do think it’s a matter of degree and environment.
If my wife was subjected, for example, to a drunken grope, depending on the actual circumstances and given the serious consequences now awaiting the offender if convicted, I would be loath to press charges, whereas before I would have happily agreed to the guy getting a wake up from the courts.
I wonder if the victim understood that this conviction could result in this person’s future long term incarceration for perhaps relatively minor offences, which may include the inevitable miscarriages of justice?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:47 am
In Australia, Gillard crashes and burns already.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/7484727/shock-poll-as-labor-support-slides/
What idiots the left are to think a far left extremist feminist like Woody Woodpecker would do it for them.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:49 am
@ Luc – from the Dom-Post
Sound like a fair cop to me …
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:52 am
How about this looney tunes idiocy..???
This AGW stuff is completely out of hand. Why didn’t the woman who is a victim of a sex attack from Al Gore report the offence immediately??
“Later, she talked to friends, liberals like herself, who advised against telling police. One asked her “to just suck it up; otherwise, the world’s going to be destroyed from global warming.”
How crazy is that???
Read more at the Washington Examiner:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Sex-complaint-against-Gore-is-detailed_-credible-97329474.html#ixzz0sHFurFaK
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:52 am
“What man hasn’t “groped” sometime?”
Me for a start, Luc. I’ve always managed to find people to consensually get my jollies with and have never been reduced to copping a feel as I go through a room. You sound charming, though. I imagine you’re like a Volkswagen at parties – just one clutch after another…
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:54 am
“For example, I met Helen Clark while I was in Wellington. I was invited to her official residence, and waved in by a lone policeman who didn’t even check who I was, then I had a barbecue with her. I congratulated her on the public’s enlightened attitudes towards racial issues, but she disagreed. She said to me that New Zealand was really a very racist country , and she was determined to do everything she could as prime minister to change that.”
This was repeated on Campbell Live (29 June) but ian McKellin remarks “what an awful thing to say about you’re own country” (I think…. without the full interview).
http://www.3news.co.nz/Waiting-for-Gandalf/tabid/817/articleID/163376/Default.aspx
It made me think of this article by Gareth Morgan:
http://nbr.infometrics.co.nz/labour-s-third-world-solution_409.html
and this:
http://www.boston.com/travel/articles/2004/11/07/new_zealand_at_a_crossroads/
Just a thought.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Leftists at the Daily Kos faking polls. Now surely that is one big surprise..!!!
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/daily-kos-admits-polls-were-likely-fraudulent
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Poor MikeNZ
Not content with the disappeared (almost) “reds under the beds” threat, he is just determined to find a new boogey man. And now that Turkey is no longer (probably temporarily) best friends with his favourite racist oppressor, Israel, it becomes a fair target.
Mike, Turkey is not upset with Israel because Turkey is an Islamic country with a democratically elected Islamic party in power. That’s democracy. It’s upset because it was shat upon (again) by a country it considered a friend but which carried out the first state attack on Turkish citizens in the 87 year history of the Republic of Turkey.
Erdogan withstood imprisonment and torture to arise victorious as the fairly elected leader of a former military dictatorship, and has since faced down the military to cement democracy in that country.
Just what worries you Mike? O
Vote:sbama under your bed? (You know Obama’s a Muslim, don’t you? I heard it on Fox Noos)June 30th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Best way to end heavy drinking culture is to free up tax laws/compliance. People busy making cash/starting businesses don’t have time to be drunk or hungover.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:11 am
IV2
It’s not his particular case that concerns me. It’s more the scope of the charge. This guy obviously has a problem, but I question whether it is one that warrants a long term imprisonment – and he will inevitably offend again unless some miracle worker takes him on.
Bearhunter, good on ya mate. I guess a different species of fur turns you on, huh? A step up from sheep?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:11 am
This call to eliminate the drinking culture by legislation is stupid.
It’s like saying lets eliminate Maori culture by legislating against it. Hasn’t got a hope.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:13 am
“What man hasn’t “groped” sometime?”
What sot of specimen goes around groping women against their will and calls himself a man? A steaming left wing arsehole apprently.
There is nothing that socialists wont defend in order to expound the virtues of their failed ideology.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:21 am
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/06/29/palestinian-savagery-knows-no-bounds/
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:22 am
And in local news.
From parliament’s question time yesterday, it appears Bill English can’t comprehend that he fucked up due process in handing 4.8 mil to his PEDA LTD buddies to squander on bullshit styled pasifika themed programmes that, in all likelihood, will not make one bit of difference to the apalling Pasifikan youth jobless stats.
I mean, who the hell decides to buy 4.8 mill of something from somebody then decide later what is they want to buy and how they want it delivered ?…Bill English thats who. Now thats all well and good if he’s using his own money but he’s not, he’s using OURS !!!
Our dear leader of finance thinks the public purse is his own to play fast and loose with, from paying himself to live in his own house, to dishing out unneccessary taxcuts to his fatcat mates and now rewarding some dodgy company in Auckland to play gatekeeper and pseudo gov’t agency to the Pasifika community under the guise of caring about poor jobless yoof.
Meanwhile, JR Pereira and Inga Tuigamala, the two men who will most profit from the handout are, according to pacificeyewitness.com, off on a gov’t sposored junket trip trade mission to China. Nice work if you can get, but i wonder what they’re going to trade with China ?….dead bodies and empty words being their relative real life trade expertise.
I’m reminded of the last time a grant for services to the ‘hiphop’ community was squandered on a junket trip with the ‘guilty’ party being spirited away to Australia away from the media heat generated at that election time to avoid embarassing the gov’t.
Given the runtime of this PEDA project (4 years) and the high level of scrutiny by the Pasifika community, i’d be using the time in China to give JR and Inga some media training to handle the jandal they’re surely gonna get when they get back. Playing the jolly brown humble christian isn’t going to cut it anymore.
http://pacificeyewitness.com/2010/06/28/pedas-partner-secretary-tuigamala-publicly-backs-jr-and-4-8million/comment-page-1/#comment-6008
As the close links between Tuigamala and PEDA LTD, and those of the PEDA extended family heirarchy to the National party are slowly exposed, it becomes plainly obvious that Bill English should either resign or scrap his promise to handover the dosh and put it up for recontesting to the wider community.
More likely though, he will downgrade the deliverable component of PEDA contract, in the way of real outcomes that may lead to jobs, in favour of more airy fairy Pasifika styled dataminining of people as statistics that then get referred to subcontracted agencies to up skill and train for the workplace, with ‘real’ jobs going to people like aspiring National party candidates Michael Jones and Inga Tuigamala to act as mentors and role models.
I imagine one big circle jerk of payoffs and bullshit with, I dare say, the only visible opportunities this scheme will create for Pasifikan youth being as cannon fodder in endless photo ops for ‘smile and wave’ to meet the lads hard at work, mentoring the yoof while raising their profile in the community for an easing into the cushy lifestyle of a list MP and tame Pasifikan lapdog that loves to linger in the halls of power, but is largely ineffectual apart from token windowdressing.
Good to see Russell Brown has decided to shine some more light on the PEDA issue on Media7 tonight. Every bit of illumination helps…
http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,2575,hard-news-peda-who-what-where-why.sm
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:33 am
I think you’ll find that the groping didn’t earn the strike, in isolation, it was the tipping point. The man has a drinking problem and a history of assault while drunk. His missus says it’s not his fault, he was drunk. (Anything’s fine, as long as you’re drunk, huh?) The 3 strikes law is there to stop this kind of long running problem. The downside is that prisons will fill up pretty quick, because anyone who’s travelled much of NZ knows that there are large tracts of the country full of people damaged by drugs, alcohol, unfortunate life events and limited education. Their minds don’t work past an emotional/instinctual level. They can’t reason. They will never think ahead. They defy laws like toddlers against parental instructions. This was always going to be the problem. Blunt tool justice system meets specialised reality of NZ life. But how many assaults from a single person are ok? How many are OK when drunk? What exactly is the alternative?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Luc, It’s bad enough that you defend groping, but you would be loath to press charges?!? Hardly the mindset of a supporter of women’s equality!. As a claimed supporter of such equality, how about you stop deciding what’s right for your wife and let her decide, mmm?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:50 am
“…just in case you were wondering what that spy base near blenheim has been doing all these years….?
you lovers of ‘freedom’ rom the state…you…
http://whoar.co.nz/2010/wikileaks-founder-assange-gives-a-hint-on-%E2%80%98orwellian%E2%80%99-bombshell-a-secret-program-that-was-engaged-in-mass-spying-on-the-citizens-of-the-us-australia-new-zealand-canadia-and-britain/
“…There has been a lot of speculation regarding what Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is going to release next.
The information is said to be so explosive … that Assange was hiding out … and the Pentagon was looking for him.
Some like the Pentagon Papers’ leaker Daniel Ellsberg have issued warnings that Assange’s life may be in danger.
The Pentagon, it has been reported, was looking to question Assange.
Julian Assange confirms that he does have an Afghan civilian massacre video.
But this is not the really big news.
Previously, it was thought that the massacre video was the reason that the Pentagon wanted to question Assange.
Assange says “I can give an analogy.
If there had been mass spying that had affected many, many people and organizations and the details of that mass spying were released …
…then that is something that would reveal that the interests of many people had been abused.” (source: abc.net.au)
According to Assange, the explosive ‘Wikileak’ would be of the type similar to the Echelon system.
For those that aren’t aware of that system.
It is a secret, or was a secret, program that was engaged in mass spying on the citizens of the US, Australia, New Zealand, Canadia, and Britain.
Echelon involved the gathering of mass amounts of electronic information … and putting in a database for analysis…”
happy about all that..?
..you rightwing ‘freedom’-lovers…
..eh..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:52 am
@ pollywog – if you want to be taken seriously, it’s probably better not to say things such as you did at The Standard th other day. To those who didn’t see it, pollywog suggested that it would have been funny if the media had chased Paula Bennett through the corridors of Parliament as they did with Chris Carter, and if she’d fallen down stairs and died. I kid you not!
It certainly gives pollywog a credibility issue, don’t you think?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:53 am
“..Good to see Russell Brown has decided to shine some more light on the PEDA issue on Media7 tonight…”
wot…?…brown is going to use media7 to do some actual ‘hard news’..?
that’ll be a first..!
..eh..?
is he moving it on from being a lifestyle/magazine-show..?
btw..if brown wants to see how a ‘media-analysis’-show should be done..
he should watch the media project tvnz7 tues nite..7.10
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:58 am
“I guess a different species of fur turns you on, huh? A step up from sheep?”
Wrong sort of bears. And I’m not a sheepshagger either, comes from not being born here. So you like to rub up against people in crowded trains as well Luc? Or do you just like to leave a trailing hand as you move through crowded rooms? Classy, Luc, real classy.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:18 am
the episode last night was a documentary on you rightwing mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers…
..it was all about yr american cuzzie-bros in the tea-party..
and it detailed who is secretly funding this ‘populist-movement’…
there is lots of clips of yr hero…glenn beck….
‘i cry..because i love my country’…(brilliant..!..)
and the one thing i took away from watching this doco..
was that all that drivel that you lot spout dosen’t even come from your own mouths/brains…
..you are just mindless ciphers/drones/repeaters of tea-party talking points…
those who may look upon..say redbumbiter…as an ‘original’….really needs to watch this doco…
..and they will see..clear as day..that he naught but a puppet/parrot…
..and hasn’t got two original thoughts/ideas to rub together..
(and the interviews/vox-pops with tea-partiers..are comedy-gold…
(person obviously old enough to be receiving their pension/’social-security’…’i want the govt out of everything..!’
(interviewer);..’do you want them to get out of providing social security..?’
(person):..’i want them out of everything..!’..)
(barking-mad..and thick as dogshit with it..it’s kinda like reading muzza’s comments..?..eh..?..)
and yes..like rebumbiter/muzza et al…these dingbats also have their ‘armed-uprising’ fantasies…
..in which they star…
i tell ya..!..it’s a brilliant bit of telly…and funny as fuck..!
and if you watch it…reading redbumbiter..and the other droolers here..
will never be the same again..)
(doco is repeated on tvnz7 at 1.30 this (wed) arvo…watch/record it..!..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:27 am
seriously Inventory2, the ol’ shoot the messenger routine *yawn*.
Is that the best diversionary tactic you can run on what an inept failure Bill English is ?
…NEXXXXT !!!
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:29 am
The tax “cut” con is almost gone.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10655404
Another straw on Key’s back, how many more?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:31 am
The new tax, the ETS is upon us: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/3868631/Price-hikes-as-ETS-looms
Aren’t we happy for NZ to lead the world and be taxed even more to save Gaia? Key and Smith think so.
Shame on the National Party, which campaigned against taxes and has done nothing except increasing the burden on the common citizen.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:38 am
According to the Herald. So much for the disgraceful government of the party of “lower” taxes.
“Petrol prices will rise tomorrow as the Government’s emissions trading scheme hits households and businesses already facing rising costs that threaten to cancel out the gains from October’s tax cuts. The Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) takes effect on transport, the energy sector and industry tomorrow, and the Government is predicting petrol prices will rise 3.1c a litre and diesel 3.3c a litre.
But the introduction of the ETS tomorrow comes as international oil prices are falling. At about US$78 a barrel, crude oil is down about 6.6 per cent over the past three months because of signs the economic recovery in developed countries is slowing.
The ETS will also add as much as 5 per cent to electricity prices and 0.4 per cent to inflation.
Prime Minister John Key and his ministers this week cautioned power companies against using the ETS as an excuse to raise prices unnecessarily.
Households and businesses also face other rising costs in the form of October’s GST increase, and higher ACC levies and vehicle registration fees. But Mr Key said taxpayers would still be ahead as wage increases were expected to outstrip overall inflation.”
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:45 am
“What man hasn’t “groped” sometime?”
I’m with Murray and BearHunter. You sound like someone that should be on the register.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:47 am
FWIW pollywog, I think that “inept” sums it up quite well. The issue’s been badly handled, but that’s as far as it goes IMHO.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:48 am
PHILU … It does sound hilarious to normal thinking people although I guess she thinks that her personal private income would be better if the government was out of things even if she was loosing her govt. pension and healthcare.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:50 am
What sot of specimen goes around groping women against their will and calls himself a man? A steaming left wing arsehole apparently.
There is nothing that socialists wont defend in order to expound the virtues of their failed ideology.
To be fair, you can be a right wing arsehole too.
hell you can be an arsehole period, politics doesn’t necessarily come into it.
Character will out in the end.
Have we all done stupid things?
Vote:Would we rewind if we could on some parts of our lives?
It is the repeating them or condoning them that marks you as a plank.
June 30th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Manalo
Vote:Do you think Nick Smith will have security at the 7pm meeting at the Duxton Hotel tonight in Wellington ?
June 30th, 2010 at 10:57 am
“Yes New Zealand does export coal to China but Kyoto penalises the country that burns it but not the country that exports,” replied Mr Smith”
As a developing nation China is exempt from Kyoto’s reduction requirements, I doubt they will care about paying anything.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:59 am
“..although I guess she thinks that her personal private income would be better if the government was out of things even if she was loosing her govt. pension and healthcare…”
um..!…
barking/gibbering…totally batshit-crazy..
kinda like redbumbiter in drag..
she is one of those tea-party clowns-with-signs…that the ‘organisers’ bus from spotaneous/’populist’-demonstration…
..to spontaneous/”populist’-demonstration…
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:01 am
@Luc
This is a very simple thing so I will try to use short words and as few syllables as possible (maybe even you will then be able to grasp it.)
The man commited a crime. The crime is on the list for 3 strikes. Ergo it is not a “relatively minor offence”.
If he doesn’t want to spend a great deal of time in jail then it would be in his own interests not to offend. (It look like it might also be in his own interests to look at his drinking.)
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Good point Bhudson.
Why don’t we extend it to all crimes?
Vote:Don’t we want to discourage crime per se?
Not all crime is impulsive by nature.
It is the heart value that allows someone to think they are above the law or won’t get caught that needs to be dealt with.
education doesn’t cut it.
Consequences and showing societal disapproval in making them felt does.
June 30th, 2010 at 11:12 am
wot…?…brown is going to use media7 to do some actual ‘hard news’..?
that’ll be a first..!
..eh..?
hold tight my negro…i’m reserving judgment til after the show
What i’m struggling with though, is the reluctance of mainstream media to blow this issue up for the scandal it is ?
It started with an inoccuous mention in the budget and some initial questions by the Samoan Labour MP Su’a William Sio directed at Minister for PI affairs Georgina Te Heu Heu. She couldn’t answer cos it turns out it was Bill English who hooked the PEDA bro’s up.
So next question time, Deputy Labour leader, Annette King asks Bill a few choice questions, to which he sputters some shit about caring for jobless Pasifikan youth *cough* bullshit*cough…yeah right
and now the Leader of the Opposition, in question time yesterday, asks the first question of Bill, in effect saying “What’s the deal ?” and even with his boss in tow beside him for moral support Bill can’t answer what it is they bought off PEDA LTD, why them and how it’s going to be delivered ?
WTF ???..if thats not a poltical story of cover up, intrigue and scandal then let’s throw this in the mix as well.
In between the parliamentary sideshow, a leading Pasifikan broadcaster, Efeso Collins, has been ‘rested’ from his job for publically calling to account the process and personell involved in this shonkey piece ‘privatisation’ by stealth and cronyism. Incidentally the brother of the company awarded the funds is the boss of the radio station which rests the broadcaster…hmmmm ?
As if thats not enough, a witch hunt has been started to find the government leak who rightfully exposed this crap to the public…like shooting the messenger in this case will make the whole thing go away.
I can understand the right leaning commenters here not being able to defend the indefensible in standing up for Bill Englishs failings yet again, but surely this is in the wider public’s interest to know how Bill is frivolously dishing out our dosh and thus worthy of wider mainstream media coverage ?…not just the invisible underclass token media of the Pasifikan community because it’s not just a Pasifikan issue anymore.
About time Dunkin’ Garner pulled his head out of Chris Carters arse and started looking around for the real stench of corruption and abuse of privilege and he need look no further than the PEDA LTD debacle….don’t you think ?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Evidently Luc thinks grabbing a sleeping womens girl parts is an ordinary red blooded male thing to do and in fact shouldn’t be a crime at all.
I meanwhile think Luc is a closet sexual offender with some disturbing ideas about what a “man” behaves like.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Also @Luc
He still has two more strikes, or to put it another way, one more “free grope”.
If he cannot get the message after that then he is not the sort of person that should be roaming free in society.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:26 am
I expect an angry ETS meeting tonight, and one stacked with eco-pinko-liberals to counter the voice of the back-stabbed National supporters
A question for Nick Smith tonight:
“Dr Smith, Al Gore has demonized carbon and then become wealthy from carbon trading. Rajendra Pachauri, head of the IPCC has become wealthy from carbon related business interests, notably Tata steel contracts moving from Europe to India. It seems the most senior and most vocal proponents of impending carbon doom are profiting enormously from their prognostications.
And so, as New Zealand’s most senior and most staunch advocate of carbon trading and taxation-driven management of global climate, the following question is appropriate:
Dr Smith, can you go on record and categorically state that neither you nor interests closely associated with you have any pecuniary interest in carbon trading and, further, will you fully open your personal and family trust investments to public scrutiny to confirm your assertion in this regard?”
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:27 am
@Manolo
I wrote to my “local” MP, Michael Woodhouse and warned him that the ETS had ensured I wouldn’t be renewing my membership nor favouring National with my party vote in the next election.
His reply was that the National Government were only doing what had been campaigned on, and that their scheme was significantly less costly than Labour’s.
While the reply was certainly the party line, I hope on some level that the message of dissatisfaction is getting through (particularly with those borderline list MPs).
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Vote your party Vote ACT next time and give John Key and National a smack at the election.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Actually they campaigned on NOT being Helen Clark.
The baggage they brought along is their own (yet seemingly borrowed from Clark) and if they choose not to listen to the warning bells then its at their peril.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:37 am
I agree. Let’s hope the three-strikes is a success and then we can vote for it to be increased to cover less serious offences (it should have included burglaries from the get-go IMHO).
There’s a relationship between minor and major offences; people doing the former often end up doing the latter. E.g. our law still has the quaint notion that burglaries are property crimes committed by likeable rogues, yet there’s now a lot of evidence that home invasion/burglaries are a common stepping stone for violent criminals.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:48 am
public floggings..?..there..malcom…?
how far exactly would you take it..?
in your ‘ideal-world’..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Great question Krazy. Go for it..!!!
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:52 am
“with some disturbing ideas about what a “man” behaves like.”
He’s a ‘swinger’ Murray, and don’t you know, we’re all lesser persons for not being like him.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:57 am
For more on the life, times and fraud of Pachauri, read Dr Rajendra Pachauri and the IPCC – No Fossil Fool, then feel ill by looking as this crook and the great profit Algore receive their Nobel prizes. Disgusting.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:59 am
I try to keep an open mind. There could be merit in that idea. Do you think a public flogging would have been useful in your case, Phil?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Well we’re going to have to redefine what a man is then Red.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
With Len [Jesus] Brown falling apart at the seams, and John Banks talking about hosting the Olympics in Auckland, as possibly stopping his campaign dead in its tracks, who else is left for Mayor of the Super City?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
“..I try to keep an open mind. ..”
(snigger/snort..!…)
yeah..ok..
carry on..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
New topic for a mo…
To those still not sceptical about recent claims of NZ mineral riches, please read this article from the Canadian Financial Post about the Afghan mineral riches bulldust. I found it through Dennis Dutton’s great web site Arts and Letters Daily (aldaily.com)
http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/06/16/afghan-mineral-bonanza-is-bogus/
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
You dodged the question, Phil. And you raised the topic of floggings in the first place. So again: Do you think a public flogging would have been helpful in diverting you from the path of becoming a drug addict, armed robber and now a perpetual bludger (i.e. unarmed robbery)?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
We can’t have intelligence gathering by the”military industrial complex” can we Phil?
Vote:http://www.webcitation.org/5TKxD2fdq
June 30th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Well we sure as shit can’t have intelligence gathering by the moronic layabout complex hj. Fuckers can’t even find the soap let alone useful intel.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Oh great, a bunch of busybodies with an average age of about 60 is going to convince the youth of the error of their ways…
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Manolo , if you are going to the meeting tonight please give the useful idiot heaps. I find it incredible that the general public seem to be waking form their slumber, way to little way to late. Would love to have given the arsehole his pedigree but it seems our area was not on the meeting list, fucking scumbags. I’ll never vote for the pricks again.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Luc ‘Mr Suave Charmer’ Hansen “What man hasn’t “groped” sometime?”
Me neither, you creepy weirdo.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
More for those who listen to LUC and his ilk on the mindset with jihadis.
http://www.danielpipes.org/8536/faisal-shahzad-jihadi-explains-terrorism
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
“Mercury’s general manager James Munro conceded in a radio interview today that the exact impact of the ETS on power prices was impossible to calculate accurately, despite a statement last month that its tariffs would rise to reflect the ETS from July 1.”
So they are raising prices but don’t fucking know an exact impact of the ETS?
“Competition watchdog, the Commerce Commission, is warning businesses they face potential court action under the Fair Trading Act if they misrepresent price rises as being caused by the Emissions Trading Scheme or the increase in GST.”
That’s good, but …
” “Businesses are not required by law to give reasons when they raise prices,” said the commission, in what it described as a pre-emptive statement, although two electricity companies – Contact Energy and Mercury Energy – have already cited the ETS as a partial reason for raising tariffs.”
And, for some reason, the power company has a liability under the ETS so passes penalty costs on to the consumer.
Vote:Finally I guess they will take measures to stop whatever emissions they are responsible for, so the costs of that too will be passed on to the consumer [ Contact says it will raise prices to reflect the ETS impact, but that it is raising prices by between 10 percent and 17 percent in Dunedin at present because of "costs of generating electricity, building new power stations, purchasing gas, and providing retail services." ]
Why have an ETS? What not just fix the faults in power generation to start with?
Otherwise we pay the EST and the improvements.
June 30th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Wednesday on Campbell Live
Nick Steenhout regards it as a public service. He publishes photos of cars parked illegally in disabled parking spots. But on Saturday, wheelchair bound Nick got more than he bargained for when he confronted a woman for parking in a disabled carpark outside a supermarket.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Whatever else happened that woman put in in the emerigency room and dove away.
That in itself is an offence.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
John Banks has just suggested a proposal of launching an Auckland-NZ bid to host the 2020 Olympic Games. One thing he failed to mention is how the money will talk for such a preposterous proposal, the 2016 Olympics is being hosted on a budget of $17 Billion US Dollars, $1.8 billion on security alone.
By 2020 I expect the cost of hosting these games to be slightly higher, which to put it bluntly is money Auckland and (all of New Zealand combined) just does not have.
I expected better economic logic from the likes of John Banks, especially as he campaigns to take charge of Auckland’s purse strings from November (or whatever’s left of it anyway).
I should also mention that Len Brown has slammed the idea. I would call this idea economically reckless, outrageously stupid and foolishly pathetic!
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
You had me untill Len slammed it, that alone makes it seem more reasonable.
Since we’re talking about the financially reckless.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
As I asked 12:09 Who can you vote for now in Auckland?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Banks has gone mad! He has joined the legion of stupid politicians and local authorities, who dream of spending our money on grandiose plans instead on concetrating doing the basics well.
Do we deserve these clowns? Yes, since we elected them.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Isn’t that right!
Vote:I didn’t vote for National or Key and tried to encourage all I could to vote ACT as I knew he and they would need a “minder”.
June 30th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
“Do we deserve these clowns? Yes, since we elected them.”
Try this candidate Yvette.
http://www.itusozluk.com/img.php/649b79acc978b20f3ac4ce7e236cded916978/krusty%2Bthe%2Bclown
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Yvette,
I’ll take the job. Is it ok if I choose not to live in the city? Seems to be OK for electorate MP’s.
I promise to look after citizens’ interests with a Wellington-centric approach to the issues.
I have a current job, but it’s ok I could run the place over dinner time. that also should be OK – it seems that’s how Len Brown does it.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Yep Krusty sure seems to be well qualified for the job.
“Krusty wastes money almost as fast as he earns it: lighting his cigarettes with hundred-dollar bills; eating condor-egg omelets; spending huge sums on pornographic magazines; and losing a fortune gambling on everything from horse races to operas to betting against the Harlem Globetrotters.[12]”
Could even be a shoo in as a Labour MP if he misses out on the Mayors job.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Luc Hands-on has gone a bit quiet…
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
20 Americans most hated by the left-
#1 GLENN BECK
Vote:#2 SARAH PALIN
#3 RUSH LIMBAUGH
#4 GEORGE W. BUSH
#5 ANN COULTER
#6 MICHELLE MALKIN
#7 THE TEA PARTY PATRIOTS
#8 DICK CHENEY
#9 BILL O’REILLY
#10 MICHELE BACHMANN
#11 KARL ROVE
#12 SEAN HANNITY
#13 MATT DRUDGE
#14 NEWT GINGRICH
#15 ANDREW BREITBART
#16 MARK LEVIN
#17 LAURA INGRAHAM
#18 ROGER AILES
#19 CLARENCE THOMAS
#20 RUPERT MURDOCH
June 30th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
“Luc Hands-on has gone a bit quiet…”
Probably salivating over the thoughts of his ride home on a crowded train…
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Correction – there’s a hundred, concocted by those who want to portray themselves as hated for publicity.
The list has been constructed by the right, and is promoted by the number 1 wannabee on the list:
media.glennbeck.com/docs/100americans-pg1.pdf
The poor wee self made victims, trying to make out they are battling some supposed “left” enemy. I wonder what victim would try and promote it here.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
@PIA – lol.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
I see Luc Hanson reaches new lows on this thread. Some readers may be interested in what Luc, who claims to be a man, had to say on a recent thread about desirable times for copulation:
Wow!
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Oops – here is the correct link to Luc Hansen’s comment.
I think the other link is to Luc’s blog, but I’m not sure Luc’s -ahem – blogging interests would be my cup of tea.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Part 1 Smoke-free workplaces and public areas
5 Smoking in workplaces prohibited
(1) An employer must take all reasonably practicable steps to ensure that no person smokes at any time in a workplace that is not—
(a) a vehicle in which smoking is permitted under section 5A; or
(b) a dedicated smoking room in which smoking is permitted under section 6.
(2) No employee or volunteer may smoke at any time in a workplace that is not a vehicle in which smoking is permitted under section 5A.
Section 5: substituted, on 10 December 2004, by section 5 of the Smoke-free Environments Amendment Act 2003 (2003 No 127).
6A Smoking in prison cells
(1) The superintendent of a prison must ensure that there is a written policy on smoking in the prison’s cells, prepared for the protection of the health of employees and inmates.
(2) The policy—
(a) must be based on the principles that—
(i) as far as is reasonably practicable, an employee or inmate who does not smoke, or does not wish to smoke in the prison, must be protected from smoke arising from smoking in the prison’s cells:
(ii) unless it is not reasonably practicable to do other wise, an inmate who does not wish to smoke in his or her cell must not be required to share it with an inmate who does wish to smoke in it; and
(b) must state the procedure for making complaints under this Part.
(3) The superintendent—
(a) must ensure that the policy complies with subsection (2); and
(b) must take all reasonably practicable steps to ensure that the policy is complied with.
Section 6A: inserted, on 10 December 2004, by section 5 of the Smoke-free Environments Amendment Act 2003 (2003 No 127).
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Fuck, one has to laugh, we have people saying do not vote Labour or Nats because they are bloody useless.
Vote:Nope, people should vote for a party whose leader rants on TV that he was entitled to the use of tax payers money for trips.
Just how the fuck are the ACT types any fucking different ?
June 30th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Turkey versus Israel, now that could get interesting if Turkey decides to build it’s own nukes instead of just storing some yank ones.
Vote:How paranoid would that make Israel ?
June 30th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Could to others. Obviously already is to you.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Israel over Turkey, any time any day.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
@Gumpy – If you assume all poli’s the same in terms of self-servingness (I don’t, but that’s a view you may hold), then setting that realization aside the question is what’s best for NZ in the long term?
If you think a continued bloating of the state, new taxes, and an overall diminishment of productivity and growth is a good thing, then vote National or Labour. If you think that’s a bloody good idea.. and that Marx was a top guy, then vote Green.
However if you want to expand NZ’s economy, to promote productivity and growth for the benefit of all NZers, then party vote ACT.
Simple really.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Ha ha, thanks guys. I knew those wind-up comments would excite you all. So predictable.
Now, did I tell you about that gang rape I took part in one dark and stormy night?
Meanwhile, I see that:
1. The groper’s wife has come out in support of her man and my contention that the the potential eventual punishment for this drunken escapade may, and I emphasise the word may, not fit the crime. Just as in some rape and domestic violence cases, men are going to become innocent victims of false accusations.
I expect this to become increasingly prevalent as time marches on and eventually the law will be altered to ameliorate the most egregious injustices.
2. Bill O’Reilly advocated on today’s show that Obama should order wanton killing in the AFPAK conflict zone – bullets in the backs of heads, executions, in other words. Where has the man been hiding? What does he think the US and their cohorts have been doing these last nine years – playing tiddlywinks? And of course we can all see just how successful that particulare strategy has been, can’t we?
3. I see Al Gore has been accused of groping so I get that just proves that AGW is a con, right?
Time to go and bath the baby. Do have fun while I’m away and keep that towel handy.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
20 New Zealanders most hated by the Left
1. Sir Roger Douglas
Vote:2. John Key
3. Rodney Hide
4. Paula Bennett
5. Whaleoil
6. Sir William Birch
7. Ruth Richardson
8. Owen Glenn :-p
9. John Banks
10. Leighton Smith
11. to 20. (fill with other random Act and Nat MPs)
June 30th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
@Luc – Gore might have been accused of groping, but you advocate the activity. I agree with PIA – you’re a creepy weirdo.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
“20 Americans most hated by the left-
#1 GLENN BECK
#2 SARAH PALIN”
These two deserve sympathy not hatred.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Luc Hands-on 1. The groper’s wife has come out in support of her man and my contention that the the potential eventual punishment for this drunken escapade may, and I emphasise the word may, not fit the crime. Just as in some rape and domestic violence cases, men are going to become innocent victims of false accusations.
What ? Since when did the opinions of a criminal’s spouse have any bearing on the serverity of the crime ? Surely the only interests that matter here are justice for the victim and the protection of society at large ? If you get murdered tonight should the murderer get a lesser sentence if his wife thinks he’s an ok guy ? You’re clutching at straws to try to extricate yourself from an indefensible position.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Grumpy
I said to be National’s minder.
That’s so they (National) don’t go all Labour lite and give the rest of you a continuance of the previous 10yrs screwing over NZ got.
Did you read the article at Commentary magazine I linked to, or are you just a dimwit anti-Semite?
Israel is already paranoid, you would be too, if you faced death since your inception from both your so called friends stupidity or lies and hypocrisy and your enemies.
Vote:At least their enemies have openly stated what they are about.
What is fraught is your so called friends are becoming Dhimmis one by one, but are too proud and stupid to realise it.
June 30th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
big bruv (6717) Says:
June 30th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
They are heroes, because they say what needs to be said for free and frank discussion to happen.
Vote:rather like you sometimes
June 30th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
“I knew those wind-up comments would excite you all”. Oh come on Luc, wind-up comments, I don’t think so, more like arse covering after the comments.
3. I wonder how our glorious leader sees Al Bore now, he is after all Shonkey’s hero. Just proves there is a sucker born every minute
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Isn’t it just outrageous how the government will prosecute companies if they think they raise prices too much because of the ETS.
Where the hell do we live? Communist china?
I thought businesses are free to set prices how they like.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
on this smoking thing….?
i used to smoke thirty a day…(back when cigarettes were cigarettes…advertised as ‘high-tar’…)
..and more than that when partying….
i used pot to ease me thru nicotine-withdrawals….
worked for me…
(just saying..!..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
krazykiwi yes I do believe all politicians are a self serving bunch with a very few exceptions, and neither Hide not Douglas come into those exceptions
Vote:Now you seem to be stating that we voters should support a party whose leader seems to be ruled by the mantra, do as I say not as I do.
ACT against socialism, so why the fuck are they part of a socialistic coalition ?
Or is it those minister’s cars etc ?
June 30th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
“Where the hell do we live? Communist china?”
Someone was saying the other day there’s actually more freedom there. What kind of lame dumbfucks vote themselves into tyranny?? What an abuse of democracy.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Someone was wrong Red.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
and a prediction for election time…?
we lose the rugby world cup…and the prisons are burning….
and i’ll tell you one thing for free…
there will be a rash of screw-resignations…
..timed for just before the ban comes in…
..just about every prison will be a flashpoint..
..and at the very least there will be serious assaults..
..at worst….deaths..and wholesale riots in prisons up and down the land….
this government is really getting the reputation for stupid/unworkable flights-of-fancy ‘ideas’…
..but this one..?
this on is the purler of all purlers…
mindnumbingly fucken dumb…
..and a ticking-clock countdown to a fucken disaster…
(btw..kim workman..on nat-rad yesterday..said the screws are terrified at the prospect…
..of all day spent with a large group of violent crims….who are jonesing thru nico-withdrawals..
fucken hell…!
i’d be running for the hills too…
..if i were them…)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
@grumpy – No vote is a pure ‘win’ for me. I suspect this sentiment may be shared by quite a few (most?) voters. So there’s upside and downside. I weigh the options and choose to party vote ACT. That’s a better choice than would be abstaining IMO.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
MikeNZ anti-Semite, you seem confused about that, a fair proportion of those who practice the Jewish faith in Israel are not Semite, but the majority of Arabs in the area are Semite.
There has been some interesting DNA studies on it.
The magazine article, seems to be stating that the Islamic faith should have no input into Turkish political life but ignores the fact that Israel is a country where the Jewish faith does have a bit of input into political life.
Vote:Not smart of Israel to get the Turks peefed, unlike some Muslims they are one bunch who can do a bayonet charge from hell.
If Israeli army decide to have another summer tour in Lebanon they could well find themselves facing a couple of hundred thousand Turks.
June 30th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
“3. I wonder how our glorious leader sees Al Bore now, he is after all Shonkey’s hero. Just proves there is a sucker born every minute”
You mean to say the leader of our country thinks Al Gore is an OK guy?
We’re fucked
Give me strength.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Phool you really seem like you’re typing with one hand when you start hyperventilating and drooling about these non-existent riots and countdowns to disaster and other products of your drug-abused brain. Some states in Oz have done it. 25 states in the US have done it ( even Virginia… ), maybe you could give us a rundown of the death toll so far ?
phool – “i used pot to ease me thru nicotine-withdrawals….”
He swallowed the spider to catch the fly. I don’t know why he swallowed the fly. Probably just a bit thick ?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Government introduces new tax causing Government owned enterprises to increase prices. Government then warns said Government owned enterprises not to increase the price too much or they’ll fine em. What’s the name of this game?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Genesis Energy, just quoted on ONE NEWS, has said they will not raise prices yet “until they know the true cost of the ETS” to them. The implication here is that those raising costs form tomorrow, are not passing on a cost but hedging against one. Surely this already qualifies for Commerce Commission questioning.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
redeye – another angle on tax increases: Owners of state integrated schools (Catholic, Christian, Rudolf Steiner etc) are contracted to charge attendance dues inclusive of GST to a maximum amount which is inclusive of GST. This means the GST increase must be absorbed by the schools and can not be passed on. I’m investigating further.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
phool – “i used pot to ease me thru nicotine-withdrawals….”
He swallowed the spider to catch the fly. I don’t know why he swallowed the fly. Probably just a bit thick ?
I/we are still laughing. Very very fucked up person this phool
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Ooops. It’s inclusive, but just once! Must check comment text
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
WebWrat , yes old Shonkey thinks Al’s the bees knees. Al Bore came to NZ some years ago to show the ruling elite his piece of shit ” The Inconvenient Truth”. Seems old Shonkey had some sort of eureka moment and came out of the theater claiming the world is fucked and Al is God. As I said one born every minute. I just wish someone would tell Shonkey the truth according to Al should be taken with a very small grain of salt..
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Question.
What was the first political blog in NZ and is it still in existence?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
“the truth according to Al should be taken with a very small grain of salt.”
Vote:Yes, followed by a nice relaxing massage session with a busty redhead.
June 30th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Global Warming News: Sydney recorded its coldest June morning today since 1949, with temperatures diving to 4.3 degrees just before 6:00am.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Misleading Statement Number 1
In the next 12 months the government has to pay $1.1 billion to foresters, in the form of emissions credits for forests planted since 1990.
The Truth
Nick Smith’s own officials confirmed to me that this was not correct. This figure is a combination of payments for both pre 1990 forests and post 1989 forests. And there is a very important difference. The first is a lump sum; non-recurring payment ($420 million) and the second ($685 million) covers forests planted in 2008, 2009 and 2010 and has an ongoing recurring element Also, those who planted forests in the 1990s and early 2000’s did so without any expectation of emissions credits or subsidies from their fellow taxpayers.
The governments budget documents this year also showed that the payment due to foresters who planted post-1990, is $1.6 billion over the years 2008-2012 . This $1.6 billion is based on an assumption that 67 percent of eligible post-1989 foresters will take up their entitlement. Unfortunately for National, government officials have advised me that recent projections show that some 87 percent of foresters may now be planning to take up their entitlement. If this happens, the $1.6 billion will blow out to over $2 billion.
When will they come clean on that?
These subsidies will go to New Zealand and foreign-owned forests alike. These payouts will be funded by all New Zealanders, forced to pay more for electricity and fuel – and all for no environmental gain whatsoever!!
ACT says we should defer the ETS and compensate foresters who planted after the forestry aspect of the ETS came into effect on 1 January, 2008, because they did so with the expectation that they would receive carbon credits from the government. So it is only fair to compensate them. That would cost no more than $20 million and would be a much cheaper option.
Misleading Statement Number 2
The Government’s revenue in the first year from the ETS will be about $350 million.
The Truth
Nick Smith’s officials also confirmed to me that this figure excludes the windfall profit gains from the three government owned electricity generators. So Act expects the government revenue from the ETS will be in excess of $500 million pa
Misleading Statement 3
New Zealand is not leading the world with our ETS, because 29 other countries have one.
The Truth
The New Zealand ETS is a single country scheme; no other country in the world has a single country scheme. The European Union as a trading bloc has a scheme which covers 29 countries. The European ETS imposes costs on the entire European trading bloc and 80 percent of European exports are internal, only 20 % go outside of Europe. In contrast, 85% of New Zealand’s exports go to countries that do not have an ETS. New Zealand truly leads the world, in penalising our exporters and farmers, all for no environmental gain. The European ETS also excludes major parts of their economy, whereas our government has been very proud of the fact that our all gases/all sectors ETS is a world first.
Misleading Statement 4
New data shows that the moderated ETS has reversed the trend of deforestation which was a major worry under Labour.
The Truth
New Zealand’s plantation forest area grew extensively through the 1990s. In the lead up to 1 January, 2008, there was excessive harvesting of forests, only because people rushed to fell them before January 1 so they wouldn’t be subject to a bill of $17,000 per hectare. This would never have happened if it weren’t for the ETS.
Misleading Statement 5
National’s development and implementation of the ETS is in line with National’s 2008 election policy.
The Truth
It is true that National said they would continue with an ETS albeit an amended version. ACT was the only party last election who campaigned to “dump the ETS”. However, bear in mind that John Key also said in October 2008; “we shouldn’t be the world leader because that will come at the expense of our economy”.
Since the election, many things have changed. We are now the only single country with an all encompassing ETS. We are now world leaders.
Misleading Statement 6
In response to ACT’s statements about carbon taxes on petrol, you will be told that “29 countries have implemented an ETS. Most of the schemes include some kind of coverage of petrol, diesel and electricity generation.”
The Truth
The UK – has a carbon tax on petrol but it does not apply to the transport or domestic sector.
Sweden – has a carbon tax on petrol and its introduction coincided with a major tax reform with the aim to reduce taxes on income and capital and to increase environmental taxes.
Norway – has a carbon tax on all fossil fuels but some industry sectors were granted exemptions to preserve their competitive position.
Denmark – has a carbon tax on diesel only and does not cover the transport sector.
Finland –has a carbon tax covering fuels used for heating and transportation.
Ireland- has recently introduced a tax on petrol and auto-diesel which includes the transport sector but excludes the 12,000 installations, covering industrial and stationary energy activities already covered by the EU ETS
So of the 29 countries that come under the umbrella of the European ETS, only three have a carbon tax on petrol that covers the domestic sector. Nick Smith stretches the truth when he claims that “Most of the schemes include some kind of coverage of petrol…”
Outside of Europe Quebec has a small carbon tax on petrol of 0.8 cents per litre.
Misleading Statement 7
The Government views this issue as one of risk management. There are uncertainties in the science, just as there are over earthquakes, but the prudent approach is to take steps to reduce the risks.’
The Truth
This is ridiculous. Not only are there uncertainties over whether global warming is occurring – and if so, whether it is man-made – everyone agrees New Zealand is too small to make any difference to world climate. The Prime Minister’s own Chief Science Advisor Professor Sir Peter Gluckman has said ‘anything we do as a nation will in itself have little impact on the climate – our impact will be symbolic, moral and political.
Misleading Statement 8
The government is also conscious of concerns specific to New Zealand’s economic resilience, namely the high value consumer markets where issues of carbon footprint pose a long term risk to our key export industries.
The Truth
49% of New Zealand’s exports go to our top 4 trading partners, Australia, United States of America, People’s Republic of China and Japan. These total $18 billion per annum or 48.5 % of our total exports. None of these countries have an ETS and are unlikely to ever have one. Our exports to all of the EU countries combined total $5 billion per annum or 14.3 % of the total.
Thanks to John Boscowan.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Putting Us In Our Places
Chris Trotter
No Friend of Dissent: Like many Pakeha politicians who have embraced the Maori Nationalist cause, Attorney General, and Treaty Negotiations Minister, Chris Finlayson, reserves his most deadly venom for those who dare to question the State’s race relations policies.
AM I THE ONLY New Zealander feeling less than a respected citizen today? Or that the full and equal protection of the laws no longer applies to me? Am I alone in suspecting that, constitutionally-speaking, something important is about to take place – without the nation’s consent?
What set me to pondering these questions was an extraordinary interview broadcast by Radio New Zealand on Tuesday morning.
Morning Report’s Geoff Robinson was talking to Treaty Negotiations Minister, Chris Finlayson, about the agreement secured between National and the Maori Party over the repeal of the Foreshore & Seabed Act.
Preceding the interview listeners had heard reactions to that agreement from Dr Grant Morris, a law lecturer at Victoria University. Michael Barnett, CEO of the Auckland Chamber of Commerce. And Hugh Barr, spokesperson for the Coastal Coalition – a group devoted to preserving public access to New Zealand’s beaches.
All of these men had expressed critical views of the National-Maori Party deal and Finlayson had been asked to respond to their remarks.
What followed was extraordinary.
Rather than address the trio’s arguments, the Treaty Negotiations Minister immediately launched into a series of aggressive put-downs of his critics.
“I didn’t know that Grant Morris knew anything about this subject,” sneered the Minister, “I thought his specialty was legal systems or feminist legal studies.” Michael Barnett, according to Finlayson was “just sounding off because it’s Tuesday morning”. Hugh Barr received a ministerial tongue-lashing for “writing some crummy article in The Dominion Post which contradicted everything I had told him.”
Huffed Finlayson: “I can’t be bothered wasting my time with him.”
But, oh, what a difference a change of ethnicity produced in the Minister. When Morning Report asked for his reaction to the Maori MP, Hone Harawira’s, charge that the whole consultation exercise surrounding the Foreshore & Seabed issue had been “bullshit”, the Minister couldn’t have been sweeter:
“I’m a bit disappointed in Hone,” crooned Finlayson, “because in my opinion he’s a first class chap, and he’s a fantastic MP for the Far North, with John Carter. But one of the things I picked up, from his rohe [tribal territory] actually, was the idea that folk didn’t want to have to go to court, or negotiate, to prove their mana. And I thought that was a fair enough point. So, we’ve added in the universal recognition order as a result of that. So, I think Hone’s a little unfair, with the greatest of respect to him, because I was listening and I was the one who was up on the road hearing what people were saying.”
The contrast: in the Minister’s tone; in his careful choice of words; and most particularly in the extreme care he took not to give offence; was, to say the least, instructive.
The Minister’s Pakeha critics: the CEO of the Auckland Chamber of Commerce (an institution not noted for its hostility to National governments); a university lecturer whose comments were measured and utterly lacking in any kind of personal animus; and a champion of New Zealanders’ right to recreate themselves amidst this country’s spectacular natural beauty; were all the recipients of Finlayson’s disdain, and he expended no serious effort responding to their arguments or questions.
How different it was for the Te Tai Tokerau MP. The man who infamously referred to his fellow New Zealanders as “White Motherf***ers” was responded to with “the greatest of respect” because, in the assessment of the Treaty Negotiations Minister, he is “a first class chap” and, like his colleague, John Carter (the National MP who once impersonated a Maori dole-bludger on John Banks’ Radio Pacific talk-back show) is “a fantastic MP for the Far North”.
The Minister’s Pakeha critics had dared to suggest that the interests of thousands of New Zealanders had been sidelined in the Government’s rush to reach an agreement with the Maori Party.
As Mr Barnett observed: “We still don‘t know what contact has been made with the recreational and conservation interests, the business interests, the local government interests. But we do know that Government has been dealing with Maori, and that it doesn’t seem to be the so-called ‘balanced’ conversation that they suggested that they were going to have.”
Mr Harawira colourfully described this one-sided process as “pandering to the rednecks”.
Would that it were so.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
*Roll Back: G20 Summit Drops Green Energy Pledge
Deutsche Presse Agentur, 28 June 2010
The leaders of the world’s 20 most powerful developed and developing states (G20) on Sunday dropped a pledge to invest in climate-friendly energy generation from their final summit statement.
Climate change topped the world agenda last year, but was eclipsed after the relative failure of a massive summit in Copenhagen in December. The G20′s decision further tones down international pledges to invest in the fight against global warming.
Earlier drafts of the statement for the summit, which brought together the leaders of key states such as China, India and the United States, said that G20 members “reiterate our commitment to … investments in clean energy.”
But that phrase was left out of the final version, which instead reiterated leaders’ “commitment to a green recovery and to sustainable global growth.”
G20 members are deeply at odds over the climate question. The European Union and Japan have already pledged to make deep greenhouse-gas emissions cuts, but other developed and developing states are at odds over the question of who should do how much.
“The issue shows that the G20 can’t do everything,” one diplomat commented drily.
http://www.nzcpr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=32&p=30875#p30875
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Hey Philip, I’d ask why TVNZ is using taxpayers money to show MSNBC filth on TVNZ7, a channel all of about 20 people watch, when we should all be tightening our belts. Heard of that, Philip? How have you altered your budget to prevent any profligate spending? We’re all in this together after all. Communalism forever!
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
The best thing about power companies raising power prices for the ETS is that we make 70% of our power from renewables ( hydro, steam, wind), but because of the way the industry is set up, with the auction system, the highest price offered from, for example, companies with a coal fired station that need to pay for carbon credits, is the price that everyone gets. So companies that produce power from hydro, steam or wind get a windfall as they don’t need to pay for carbon credits but still get the equivalent price as companies that do.
In other words, the consumer (that’s us) is paying extra for the 70% of power that doesn’t attract a carbon charge. Good huh? Funnily enough, the honest ‘for the people’ good guys n gals in the National party have forgotten to mention this to us peasants.
Anyone want to guess who owns the majority of the non carbon tax attracting power producing companies?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
” “I’m a bit disappointed in Hone,” crooned Finlayson, “because in my opinion he’s a first class chap, and he’s a fantastic MP for the Far North, ”
These arrogant treacherous National party Progressives need to be kicked out next election. Nothing surer.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Did you ask that question to Nick Smith kk?
National have lost my vote forever, what a bunch of gutless wankers. I would rather have Labour in power at the moment, at last they make no secret of being socialist, instead of a bunch of empty suits like National. “Hollow men”, one might call them
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
I agree entirely Nick. National appear to believe that once they have been elected, they are free to treat those who voted for them as fools.
There is only one way to disabuse them of this notion and that is to kick them out. Give them the message that treachery has a cost, and they will not be elected ever again until their party is cleared of left wingers, and prepared to provide a real opposition to Labour.
Labour at least are true to their left wing beliefs. These National people are just utterly disgusting in their lack of purpose, principle and mission.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Heartily agree.
Nick Smith especially exudes an attitude that he has been supremely annointed by god to be our ruler, and that we should be ever grateful, and dare not question his ETS.
I have a good idea for some anti-National billboards. They should go something like this.
1. Going down:
Income tax (marginally)
2. Going up:
Vote:GST
Petrol prices
Gas prices
Electricity prices
Tobacco prices
Alcohol prices
ACC earners levy
Car registrations
Motorcycle registrations
Inflation
Interest rates
Government (meaning your childrens’) debt
Rates
June 30th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
@nickb – No … I chair a charitable trust and our quarterly funding meeting was this evening. Not happy. Just home now. Very keen to hear how the ETS obfuscation meeting went. Anyone?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
@Viking2 at 7:34 – That list of ETS ‘Misleading Statements’ and ‘Truths’ is gold. It needs to be full-page in every daily newspaper
edit: and so should Chicken Little’s 8:22 comment
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
what is the charitable trust..?
‘christian fascists for tolerance’…?
‘christian fascists for humanity’..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
And there I was thinking you’d RIPed me phil. I’m touched. Honestly.
Now, why did you lie to us all in claming that you had no internet access from your home? Why must you now ‘stay home’ to look after your son when a few years back you attended Akl Uni? And if you ‘stay home’ where there’s no internet how do you blog so much?
And the biggie… has Paula called yet?
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
For newcomers here I’d encourage you to help phil into a job. It will improve his self esteem and it would mean that more benefit money was available for the truly needy.
By way of background Phillip Ure lives in Auckland, has an MA in Political Science and is on the DBP which we claims is essential for the care of his teenage son who is a student. Phil has a history of drug abuse and has spent some time in prison, but despite what others here may say, he does have a functioning brain and is perfectly capable of working for a living. He just chooses not to work, and that people is benefit fraud.
So give MSD a call, and help phil help himself.
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
i don’t rip anyone..
i just ignore..and denigrate..and laugh at..
preachers of hatred and bigotry such as you…
basically..you ain’t gonna just get away with the evils you peddle..eh..?
it’s too dangerous not to stand up to christian fascist scum like you..
..eh..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
and and make sure you tell them he is really really nasty to mouthbreathing/knuckle-dragging christian fascists..
and could they please make him stop saying such terrible things about them…
‘cos..’cos..it interferes with the flow of the bigotry and the hatred..eh..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:June 30th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
At least you can spell “fascist” these days, even if you don’t know what it means.
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 12:45 am
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5034582797873848517#
Vote:hilarious scene in this at 5.15
July 1st, 2010 at 5:21 am
Broads gone…finished….see ya later tubby…no loss…
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 6:43 am
Police boss told his time is up
By ANDREA VANCE – The Dominion Post
Last updated 05:00 01/07/2010
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Howard Broad
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HOWARD BROAD: Served in uniform and with the CIB for about 18 years before moving into policy, planning and strategy roles at national headquarters. In 1999, he became district commander of the Auckland City Police District. In 2003-04, he was seconded to the Police Standards Unit in the British Home Office and, in 2004, appointed assistant commissioner. He has a law degree and qualifications in police management.
Police Commissioner Broad to step down next year
New Zealand’s top cop has been axed. In a meeting with Police Minister Judith Collins this week, police commissioner Howard Broad learned she will not extend his contract. He will leave in March.
It is understood Mr Broad had been hoping the minister would continue his tenure, which is due to finish in April. He is one of the public service’s top earners, receiving between $490,000 and $499,999 a year.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3872368/Police-boss-told-his-time-is-up
Hopefully Collins will give that other prick Pope a push as well.
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 7:21 am
the last of klarks champions…” help me howie Im in the shite again”….”no worries H1″….”move along peasants..nothing to see here”…
Vote: