Mallard on Carter

June 17th, 2010 at 11:43 am by David Farrar

Trevor blogged yesterday:

Chris is pretty badly hurt. And he is damaged. That is obvious. He has to decide what he wants to do.

My appeal is for us to be reasonable, forget the lynch mob mentality, and let him work out what is best for him, for Labour and for New Zealand.

And give him space to do that.

Trevor is right. I think people should show the same compassion and reasonableness to , as Trevor himself showed to when Nick got badly hurt and had to take some time off.

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61 Responses to “Mallard on Carter”

  1. david (2,556 comments) says:

    Remind us again please of the extent of Trevor’s sympathetic approach to someone having a meltdown. Good works should not go unmentioned.

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  2. Rod (180 comments) says:

    The Mallard advice: duck for cover.

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  3. RightNow (6,986 comments) says:

    As many have commented already on that thread, Carter needs to consider which order that list should go in. He’s got two weeks of space now to do it in, it’s not like blog commenters have been waiting outside his house to sling abuse at him.

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  4. ben (2,377 comments) says:

    I have zero time for anything Labour, but I really think that media harassment in the corridors was a very, very poor show by them. The Close Up story that night was really about the media harassment. A case of making the news.

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  5. Muzza M (291 comments) says:

    “let him work out what is best for him”
    That is precisely what he has been doing all along, and is precisely what has got him into the shit (no pun intended).

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  6. RKBee (1,344 comments) says:

    Carter needs time to cry.. they usaully need time to cry when been they are being weaned of the tit.

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  7. malcolm (1,952 comments) says:

    cry me a river.

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  8. davidp (3,580 comments) says:

    I like the way Mallard condemns homophobic language used over at Whaleoil’s.

    Must be a different Mallard than the one who shouted “tinkerbell” at Chris Finlayson.

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  9. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    I think people should show the same compassion and reasonableness to Chris Carter, as Trevor himself showed to Nick Smith when Nick got badly hurt and had to take some time off.

    Or like Brownlee and Brash showed:

    When Smith returned to parliament, however, he found himself challenged for the deputy leadership by Gerry Brownlee. Smith and his supporters were angry at this, saying that Brownlee’s supporters had taken advantage of Smith’s absence to deliberately misrepresent Smith as unstable. Smith was also angry that neither Brownlee or Brash (who appeared now to support Brownlee) had given any indication of the upcoming challenge. Smith was defeated, and lost the deputy leadership on 17 November 2003.

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  10. Pascal (1,969 comments) says:

    To everyone pointing the finger at Brash and Brownlee – are either of them being a blatant hypocrite and calling for everyone to go easy on Carter?

    No?

    Then fuck off. I feel sorry for Carter to a degree, because yeah, the media frenzy was a bit over the top. But that doesn’t change the fact that he is a unrepentant trougher. And it doesn’t change the fact that Trevor Mallard is now being a bit precious when he is just about the nastiest piece of work in recent political history.

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  11. george (388 comments) says:

    “when Nick got badly hurt and had to take some time off”??????

    You mean, when Nick was honoured by his colleagues by being elected deputy leader of the party, and then went troppo, hearing voices and seeing visions that weren’t there.

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  12. Leonidas (1,423 comments) says:

    You mean like the compassion and reasonableness he showed to the taxpayers by pissing up and rubbing off their hard earned?

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  13. Inventory2 (10,299 comments) says:

    @ DavidP – indeed. And when I challenged Mallard about that yesterday at Red Alert, my comment went into moderation, then was deleted. It would appear that Trevor Mallard is trying to rewrite history.

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  14. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    Yeh well we didn’t want Smith anyway. Just and angry greenie. time to boot him out.
    And Mallard wasn’t that charitable about others was he. Brash was harrassed by the same fellow.
    Mallard is just too thick skinned to realise he has neen handed the same and let it run off like water off a ducks back.

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  15. s.russell (1,619 comments) says:

    Last night I semi-watched part of the debate on the Stewart Island Visitor Levy Empowering Bill. During a moment when I wasn’t zoned out by the mundanity of the various speakers, I heard a new voice. He began by saying none of the previous speakers had done justice to the specialness of Stewart Island.

    I wondered who could have been so insensitive to so casually insult all the previous speakers. I stept closer to the TV to see who it was.

    It was Trevor Mallard.

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  16. Manolo (13,580 comments) says:

    I don’t believe Carter deserves any special treatment from the public. He showed his contempt for the taxpayer when he abused his credit card and expenses all these years, so why would I be lenient with him?

    He’s a trougher, an unrepentant one, and should be judged by his actions.
    Once a cheat always a cheat. I dont think Carter is “remorseful”. He never will.

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  17. Richard Hurst (844 comments) says:

    “…let him work out what is best for him, for Labour and for New Zealand.”

    What is best for him? The best thing for him is that he goes.
    What is best for Labour? The best thing for Labour is that he goes.
    What is best for New Zealand? The best thing for New Zealand is that he goes.

    Easy.

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  18. annie (539 comments) says:

    Anyone who misuses public money and/or doesn’t follow spending guidelines should be out the door, regardless of party or position. The occasional mistake, rapidly repaid is fair enough, as is spending on lost luggage and contents replacement, or dinners for people who can significantly benefit New Zealand – not a faction or a party or an employee or a friend.

    The dinner with Johnathon Hunt and a retired MP in the UK is a good example of inappropriate spending, for instance.

    The door and the cops, for the lot of them.

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  19. gravedodger (1,552 comments) says:

    Mallard is a typical bully, can’t take the return sh*t, here however we see the whining by proxy gambit.
    I guess with the stench of what is flying and his proximity, he will be getting splattered, poor little daffodyl.

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  20. Bevan (3,923 comments) says:

    Mallard is as relevant as the NSW Origin side – best to just ignore the fool.

    Mallard to Finlayson: “Hey Tinkerbell…”

    Mallard re Carter: “Stop the Homophobia!”

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  21. trout (937 comments) says:

    If one looks at the bigger picture; and in politics it is all about numbers; there are 10+ gay MP’s in labour’s caucus. They are now putting it about that Carters is being attacked because he is gay; to the extent that yesterday Goff was, once again, forced to state that he did not agree with this contention. Carter has been on the phone, requesting support (probably with big H’s blessing from afar) , and getting it from the gay faction. Mallard can count, he certainly does not want to be left in the backwash when Goff is tipped out.

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  22. RightNow (6,986 comments) says:

    Mallard sees nothing wrong with his tinkerbell comments.
    “Mark you and a few others have noted that I have refered to a colleagues (gay) sexual orientation in a light hearted manner in the house. He didn’t object and seemed to think the comment was funny. If you guys really think that is homophobic you need to have some cement with your morning tea or alternatively lighten right up. That thread finished herewith. I will delete without comment further references. Trevor”

    So according to Trev it IS ok to refer to someone’s sexual orientation in a light hearted manner.

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  23. Whafe (650 comments) says:

    Fuck Off Mallard, you utter waste of space…..

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  24. Inventory2 (10,299 comments) says:

    So RightNow; then by Mallard’s logic, it’s OK to call Carter a poof, or to call Maryan Street a dyke, as long as it’s done in a light-hearted spirit – hmmmmm

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  25. david (2,556 comments) says:

    ” …. seemed to think the comment was funny….” We have been totally lighthearted so why isn’t Chris smiling? No sense of humour perhaps?

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  26. RightNow (6,986 comments) says:

    That’s right IV2, by Mallard’s logic it is ok.
    Unfortunately Mallard’s logic is also an oxymoron.

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  27. Paulus (2,607 comments) says:

    Surely the kiss of death to be supported by the duck!.

    Watch your backside Chris.

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  28. Manolo (13,580 comments) says:

    “Watch your backside Chris.”

    Paulus, you surely said that tongue in cheek, didn’t you?
    I’m sure Chris Carter himself would be delighted by the lighhearted comment.

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  29. Rex Widerstrom (5,349 comments) says:

    *headesk* I have a lot of time for Trevor, but I can’t believe the Labour caucus sat round and said “we need someone to write a heartfelt, sympathetic plea on behalf of Chris Carter. Any nominations? Yay, let’s pick Trevor”. With this kind of strategic briliance they’re sure to be swept back into power.

    What’s next? Micael Lhaws as a grief counsellor?

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  30. Mike (3,234 comments) says:

    Muzza M (100) Says:
    June 17th, 2010 at 12:04 pm – yes he should work out what is best for US not him, as we pay the salary !

    Manolo (1601) Says:
    June 17th, 2010 at 12:41 pm – Unrepentant, absoluetely !

    annie (125) Says:
    June 17th, 2010 at 12:51 pm – show them the door and the cops!

    The good thing is in the future they are all on notice.
    Now we need to do the same to every City and Regional council in the country, in fact any body that gets monies off of us.
    Written as part of the contract.
    I like Davids idea , all cheques over an amount on the web within a few days for all to see and all meetings web cammed.

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  31. Bevan (3,923 comments) says:

    So RightNow; then by Mallard’s logic, it’s OK to call Carter a poof, or to call Maryan Street a dyke, as long as it’s done in a light-hearted spirit – hmmmmm

    I wonder how one does that on kiwiblog without attracting demerits? Smiley faces afterwards maybe?

    If I call Carter a donut punching fudge packer and follow it up with a smiley face :-) – is that OK in Mallards eyes? I mean seriously I’m only being light hearted here…

    And does Mallard think we came down in the last shower? Who would ever think Mallard and Finlayson to be ‘collegues’ they are MP’s in opposing parties, and since when does his bile ever constitute lightheartedness?

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  32. trout (937 comments) says:

    Mallard would not know what lighthearted was if it fell on him. His stock in trade is sarcasm, inuendo, and intimidation. He has been found out – again.

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  33. Rex Widerstrom (5,349 comments) says:

    Bevan asks:

    If I call Carter a donut punching fudge packer and follow it up with a smiley face

    Well it seems to work for South Park :-D

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  34. backster (2,152 comments) says:

    Ohh lightheartedly it seems to me that Trev is trying to get into bed with Chris.

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  35. OliverI (112 comments) says:

    Oh Mallard… an Asset to the National party :D

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  36. Jeremy Harris (319 comments) says:

    No mercy, it really is a case of “if you don’t like the heat get out of the kitchen”, i.e. don’t run for office if you can’t withstand criticism for wrongdoing…

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  37. krazykiwi (9,186 comments) says:

    Mallard on Carter

    Distasteful imagary.

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  38. Leonidas (1,423 comments) says:

    @krazykiwi,

    Wholeheartedly concur.

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  39. dime (9,856 comments) says:

    nick smith was seeing shit?? like made up shit? like global warming??

    trev – why dont you comment here anymore?

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  40. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    What an affront to decency. These left wing crooks think that with a few words (dripping with hypocrisy) they can convert an offender into a victim and we will buy it. To hell with Chris Carter. I’m glad he’s miserable. I wish him even more misery. He attempted to steal from me. He behaved like a power drunk little despot.

    Did he show any consideration for the feelings of those who wanted to build the marina at Whangamata when he stopped it using his executive power? How many times did he refuse to give serious answers to questions during Question Time in the house.

    He’s no victim, he’s an offender. An arrogant and unrepentant trougher who attempted to help himself to money he had no right to.

    Badly hurt??

    Not bad enough Carter you cheap sleazy scum.

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  41. gravedodger (1,552 comments) says:

    dime @ 4 40 Trev is far too busy making sure no adverse comment interrupt the orderly interpretation of information on red alert that they hope the faithful and the vulnerable will wallow in. It has become a much bigger job in recent days, hell he has had to run interference for his loyal mate Koru club Carter.

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  42. fatman43us (166 comments) says:

    Carter – BOOHOOHOOHOO

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  43. Fletch (6,295 comments) says:

    Hasn’t Carter always been a bit damaged?

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  44. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    An old priest lay dying in a hospital. He had faithfully served the people of NZ for many years. He motioned for his nurse to come near.

    ‘Yes, Father?’ said the nurse.

    ‘I would really like to see Shane Jones and Chris Carter before I die’, whispered the priest..

    ‘I’ll see what I can do, Father’, replied the nurse.

    The nurse sent the request to the Labour Party and waited for a response. Soon the word arrived; Shane and Chris would be delighted to visit the priest.

    As they drove to the hospital, Shane commented to Chris, ‘I don’t know why the old priest wants to see us, but it certainly will help our images given the relations on our credit card spending, it might even save our political careers”! Chris agreed that it was a good thing wishing all the time he had bought Pansies rather than Roses for his boyfriend.

    .
    When they arrived at the priest’s room, the priest took Shane’s hand in his right hand and Chris’s hand in his left. There was silence and a look of serenity on the old priest’s face.

    Finally Shane Wilson spoke: ‘Father, of all the people you could have chosen, why did you choose us to be with you as you near the end?’

    The old priest slowly replied, ‘I have always tried to pattern my life after our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.

    Amen’, said Shane. Amen’, said Chris..

    The old priest continued: ‘Jesus Christ our saviour died between two lying thieving bastards and I would like to do the same…’

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  45. Leonidas (1,423 comments) says:

    Koru Club. Making Jones look better every second.

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  46. krazykiwi (9,186 comments) says:

    @pauleastbay – Very good!

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  47. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    Maybe Mallard was referring to TV1 and TV3, in part at least.

    TV networks punished for Chris Carter coverage

    “In this case, there were clear breaches of those rules where television journalists pursued a member of Parliament down a stair case where access for filming was specifically prohibited,” Dr Smith said.

    “In doing so, they entered a secure area without authority.”

    A cameraman also entered someone’s office without permission.

    Reporters can be very pushy and seem to have a sense of entitlement of their own – that they deserve any story they think is worth chasing. Their aggressiveness is one reason why their targets often are less than forthcoming.

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  48. mattyroo (1,027 comments) says:

    What Redbaiter said!

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  49. Johnboy (16,063 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay: Fucking beauty mate! :)

    I can see it now: John Belushi as Shane. David Caradine as Chris.

    Jimbo Anderton as the old priest.

    Guest starring: Trevor Duck as Judas Iscariot and Auntie Helen as The Mother Superior/Whore of Jerusalem.

    Fucking brilliant. —— I wonder if Peter Jackson is busy at the moment…??

    What the fuck do you mean Goofy?….All the cast is already dead?

    Sheesh!!

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  50. RKBee (1,344 comments) says:

    krazykiwi @ 4:21 pm

    Mallard on Carter

    Distasteful imagary.

    CARTER LOOKS A LITTLE BUGGERED.

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  51. krazykiwi (9,186 comments) says:

    Punishment for the reporters who went after Cater? Ha ha the story just keeps getting better. The public are pissed at Carter and will be more pissed at the idea that he’s getting ‘protection’ from Mr Speaker.

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  52. Johnboy (16,063 comments) says:

    Of course there used to be a lot of rumors regarding Mr Speaker up until he tied the knot. Quite fetching he was in his budgie smugglers if you are that way inclined.

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  53. lofty (1,310 comments) says:

    @redbaiter 5.56 well said red.

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  54. krazykiwi (9,186 comments) says:

    @Johnboy – Ummmm … nope. Doesn’t work for me.

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  55. thedavincimode (6,710 comments) says:

    s.russell

    “… I stept closer to the TV to see who it was.”

    Hmmm. Time to get serious about those glasses, or even the hearing aid.

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  56. Johnboy (16,063 comments) says:

    Congratulations KK you passed the “Straight As ” test.

    Who’s next?

    (Great archive work by the way. I tried to find it and failed).

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  57. krazykiwi (9,186 comments) says:

    @Johnboy, no archive — Google : http://images.google.co.nz/images?q=%22lockwood+smith

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  58. Johnboy (16,063 comments) says:

    Ah! I live and learn.

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  59. sooty (63 comments) says:

    I bet Trev went out and bought Chris some flowers. #Yeah right, poison ivy#

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  60. tvb (4,364 comments) says:

    The Labour Party use of Tinkerbell against Chris Finlayson shows they are just as homophobic as anyone. For Labour being gay means supporting the Labour Party and you don’t then it is Tinkerbell and everything else they can throw at someone. And Mallard is the worst of the lot. Absolute muck.

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