Mallard on Carter

June 17th, 2010 at 11:43 am by David Farrar

Chris is pretty badly hurt. And he is damaged. That is obvious. He has to decide what he wants to do.

My appeal is for us to be reasonable, forget the lynch mob mentality, and let him work out what is best for him, for Labour and for New Zealand.

And give him space to do that.

Trevor is right. I think people should show the same compassion and reasonableness to Chris Carter, as Trevor himself showed to Nick Smith when Nick got badly hurt and had to take some time off.

Tags: Chris Carter, Nick Smith, Trevor Mallard

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61 Responses to “Mallard on Carter”

david (2,299) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Remind us again please of the extent of Trevor’s sympathetic approach to someone having a meltdown. Good works should not go unmentioned.
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Rod (236) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 11:49 am
The Mallard advice: duck for cover.
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RightNow (5,357) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 11:50 am
As many have commented already on that thread, Carter needs to consider which order that list should go in. He’s got two weeks of space now to do it in, it’s not like blog commenters have been waiting outside his house to sling abuse at him.
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ben (2,366) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 11:53 am
I have zero time for anything Labour, but I really think that media harassment in the corridors was a very, very poor show by them. The Close Up story that night was really about the media harassment. A case of making the news.
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m@tt (498) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Are you referring to when Nick went on stress leave? I recall several of his colleagues were less than supportive:

Nick Smith – Leadership Struggles

Perhaps you are suggesting that Brownlee and Brash should have shown some “compassion and reasonableness”?
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Muzza M (267) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
“let him work out what is best for him”
That is precisely what he has been doing all along, and is precisely what has got him into the shit (no pun intended).
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RKBee (1,344) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Carter needs time to cry.. they usaully need time to cry when been they are being weaned of the tit.
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malcolm (2,000) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
cry me a river.
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davidp (2,725) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
I like the way Mallard condemns homophobic language used over at Whaleoil’s.

Must be a different Mallard than the one who shouted “tinkerbell” at Chris Finlayson.
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toad (3,542) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
I think people should show the same compassion and reasonableness to Chris Carter, as Trevor himself showed to Nick Smith when Nick got badly hurt and had to take some time off.

Or like Brownlee and Brash showed:

When Smith returned to parliament, however, he found himself challenged for the deputy leadership by Gerry Brownlee. Smith and his supporters were angry at this, saying that Brownlee’s supporters had taken advantage of Smith’s absence to deliberately misrepresent Smith as unstable. Smith was also angry that neither Brownlee or Brash (who appeared now to support Brownlee) had given any indication of the upcoming challenge. Smith was defeated, and lost the deputy leadership on 17 November 2003.
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Pascal (2,015) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
To everyone pointing the finger at Brash and Brownlee – are either of them being a blatant hypocrite and calling for everyone to go easy on Carter?

No?

Then fuck off. I feel sorry for Carter to a degree, because yeah, the media frenzy was a bit over the top. But that doesn’t change the fact that he is a unrepentant trougher. And it doesn’t change the fact that Trevor Mallard is now being a bit precious when he is just about the nastiest piece of work in recent political history.
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george (398) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
“when Nick got badly hurt and had to take some time off”??????

You mean, when Nick was honoured by his colleagues by being elected deputy leader of the party, and then went troppo, hearing voices and seeing visions that weren’t there.
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Leonidas (919) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
You mean like the compassion and reasonableness he showed to the taxpayers by pissing up and rubbing off their hard earned?
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Inventory2 (8,796) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
@ DavidP – indeed. And when I challenged Mallard about that yesterday at Red Alert, my comment went into moderation, then was deleted. It would appear that Trevor Mallard is trying to rewrite history.
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Viking2 (9,456) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Yeh well we didn’t want Smith anyway. Just and angry greenie. time to boot him out.
And Mallard wasn’t that charitable about others was he. Brash was harrassed by the same fellow.
Mallard is just too thick skinned to realise he has neen handed the same and let it run off like water off a ducks back.
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s.russell (1,288) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Last night I semi-watched part of the debate on the Stewart Island Visitor Levy Empowering Bill. During a moment when I wasn’t zoned out by the mundanity of the various speakers, I heard a new voice. He began by saying none of the previous speakers had done justice to the specialness of Stewart Island.

I wondered who could have been so insensitive to so casually insult all the previous speakers. I stept closer to the TV to see who it was.

It was Trevor Mallard.
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Manolo (9,857) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
I don’t believe Carter deserves any special treatment from the public. He showed his contempt for the taxpayer when he abused his credit card and expenses all these years, so why would I be lenient with him?

He’s a trougher, an unrepentant one, and should be judged by his actions.
Once a cheat always a cheat. I dont think Carter is “remorseful”. He never will.
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Richard Hurst (633) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
“…let him work out what is best for him, for Labour and for New Zealand.”

What is best for him? The best thing for him is that he goes.
What is best for Labour? The best thing for Labour is that he goes.
What is best for New Zealand? The best thing for New Zealand is that he goes.

Easy.
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annie (507) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Anyone who misuses public money and/or doesn’t follow spending guidelines should be out the door, regardless of party or position. The occasional mistake, rapidly repaid is fair enough, as is spending on lost luggage and contents replacement, or dinners for people who can significantly benefit New Zealand – not a faction or a party or an employee or a friend.

The dinner with Johnathon Hunt and a retired MP in the UK is a good example of inappropriate spending, for instance.

The door and the cops, for the lot of them.
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gravedodger (1,170) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Mallard is a typical bully, can’t take the return sh*t, here however we see the whining by proxy gambit.
I guess with the stench of what is flying and his proximity, he will be getting splattered, poor little daffodyl.
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Bevan (3,951) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Mallard is as relevant as the NSW Origin side – best to just ignore the fool.

Mallard to Finlayson: “Hey Tinkerbell…”

Mallard re Carter: “Stop the Homophobia!”
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trout (818) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
If one looks at the bigger picture; and in politics it is all about numbers; there are 10+ gay MP’s in labour’s caucus. They are now putting it about that Carters is being attacked because he is gay; to the extent that yesterday Goff was, once again, forced to state that he did not agree with this contention. Carter has been on the phone, requesting support (probably with big H’s blessing from afar) , and getting it from the gay faction. Mallard can count, he certainly does not want to be left in the backwash when Goff is tipped out.
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RightNow (5,357) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Mallard sees nothing wrong with his tinkerbell comments.
“Mark you and a few others have noted that I have refered to a colleagues (gay) sexual orientation in a light hearted manner in the house. He didn’t object and seemed to think the comment was funny. If you guys really think that is homophobic you need to have some cement with your morning tea or alternatively lighten right up. That thread finished herewith. I will delete without comment further references. Trevor”

So according to Trev it IS ok to refer to someone’s sexual orientation in a light hearted manner.
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Whafe (642) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Fuck Off Mallard, you utter waste of space…..
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Inventory2 (8,796) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
So RightNow; then by Mallard’s logic, it’s OK to call Carter a poof, or to call Maryan Street a dyke, as long as it’s done in a light-hearted spirit – hmmmmm
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david (2,299) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
” …. seemed to think the comment was funny….” We have been totally lighthearted so why isn’t Chris smiling? No sense of humour perhaps?
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RightNow (5,357) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
That’s right IV2, by Mallard’s logic it is ok.
Unfortunately Mallard’s logic is also an oxymoron.
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Paulus (1,675) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Surely the kiss of death to be supported by the duck!.

Watch your backside Chris.
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Manolo (9,857) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
“Watch your backside Chris.”

Paulus, you surely said that tongue in cheek, didn’t you?
I’m sure Chris Carter himself would be delighted by the lighhearted comment.
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Rex Widerstrom (4,965) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
*headesk* I have a lot of time for Trevor, but I can’t believe the Labour caucus sat round and said “we need someone to write a heartfelt, sympathetic plea on behalf of Chris Carter. Any nominations? Yay, let’s pick Trevor”. With this kind of strategic briliance they’re sure to be swept back into power.

What’s next? Micael Lhaws as a grief counsellor?
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Mike (3,234) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Muzza M (100) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:04 pm – yes he should work out what is best for US not him, as we pay the salary !

Manolo (1601) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:41 pm – Unrepentant, absoluetely !

annie (125) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 12:51 pm – show them the door and the cops!

The good thing is in the future they are all on notice.
Now we need to do the same to every City and Regional council in the country, in fact any body that gets monies off of us.
Written as part of the contract.
I like Davids idea , all cheques over an amount on the web within a few days for all to see and all meetings web cammed.
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Bevan (3,951) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
So RightNow; then by Mallard’s logic, it’s OK to call Carter a poof, or to call Maryan Street a dyke, as long as it’s done in a light-hearted spirit – hmmmmm

I wonder how one does that on kiwiblog without attracting demerits? Smiley faces afterwards maybe?

If I call Carter a donut punching fudge packer and follow it up with a smiley face – is that OK in Mallards eyes? I mean seriously I’m only being light hearted here…

And does Mallard think we came down in the last shower? Who would ever think Mallard and Finlayson to be ‘collegues’ they are MP’s in opposing parties, and since when does his bile ever constitute lightheartedness?
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trout (818) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Mallard would not know what lighthearted was if it fell on him. His stock in trade is sarcasm, inuendo, and intimidation. He has been found out – again.
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Rex Widerstrom (4,965) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Bevan asks:

If I call Carter a donut punching fudge packer and follow it up with a smiley face

Well it seems to work for South Park
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backster (1,777) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Ohh lightheartedly it seems to me that Trev is trying to get into bed with Chris.
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OliverI (124) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Oh Mallard… an Asset to the National party
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Jeremy Harris (323) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
No mercy, it really is a case of “if you don’t like the heat get out of the kitchen”, i.e. don’t run for office if you can’t withstand criticism for wrongdoing…
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krazykiwi (9,188) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Mallard on Carter

Distasteful imagary.
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Leonidas (919) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
@krazykiwi,

Wholeheartedly concur.
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dime (6,165) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
nick smith was seeing shit?? like made up shit? like global warming??

trev – why dont you comment here anymore?
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Redbaiter (13,197) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
What an affront to decency. These left wing crooks think that with a few words (dripping with hypocrisy) they can convert an offender into a victim and we will buy it. To hell with Chris Carter. I’m glad he’s miserable. I wish him even more misery. He attempted to steal from me. He behaved like a power drunk little despot.

Did he show any consideration for the feelings of those who wanted to build the marina at Whangamata when he stopped it using his executive power? How many times did he refuse to give serious answers to questions during Question Time in the house.

He’s no victim, he’s an offender. An arrogant and unrepentant trougher who attempted to help himself to money he had no right to.

Badly hurt??

Not bad enough Carter you cheap sleazy scum.
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gravedodger (1,170) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
dime @ 4 40 Trev is far too busy making sure no adverse comment interrupt the orderly interpretation of information on red alert that they hope the faithful and the vulnerable will wallow in. It has become a much bigger job in recent days, hell he has had to run interference for his loyal mate Koru club Carter.
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fatman43us (165) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Carter – BOOHOOHOOHOO
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Fletch (4,298) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Hasn’t Carter always been a bit damaged?
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Pauleastbay (3,726) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
An old priest lay dying in a hospital. He had faithfully served the people of NZ for many years. He motioned for his nurse to come near.

‘Yes, Father?’ said the nurse.

‘I would really like to see Shane Jones and Chris Carter before I die’, whispered the priest..

‘I’ll see what I can do, Father’, replied the nurse.

The nurse sent the request to the Labour Party and waited for a response. Soon the word arrived; Shane and Chris would be delighted to visit the priest.

As they drove to the hospital, Shane commented to Chris, ‘I don’t know why the old priest wants to see us, but it certainly will help our images given the relations on our credit card spending, it might even save our political careers”! Chris agreed that it was a good thing wishing all the time he had bought Pansies rather than Roses for his boyfriend.

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When they arrived at the priest’s room, the priest took Shane’s hand in his right hand and Chris’s hand in his left. There was silence and a look of serenity on the old priest’s face.

Finally Shane Wilson spoke: ‘Father, of all the people you could have chosen, why did you choose us to be with you as you near the end?’

The old priest slowly replied, ‘I have always tried to pattern my life after our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.

Amen’, said Shane. Amen’, said Chris..

The old priest continued: ‘Jesus Christ our saviour died between two lying thieving bastards and I would like to do the same…’
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Leonidas (919) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Koru Club. Making Jones look better every second.
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krazykiwi (9,188) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
@pauleastbay – Very good!
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Pete George (17,595) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Maybe Mallard was referring to TV1 and TV3, in part at least.

TV networks punished for Chris Carter coverage

“In this case, there were clear breaches of those rules where television journalists pursued a member of Parliament down a stair case where access for filming was specifically prohibited,” Dr Smith said.

“In doing so, they entered a secure area without authority.”

A cameraman also entered someone’s office without permission.

Reporters can be very pushy and seem to have a sense of entitlement of their own – that they deserve any story they think is worth chasing. Their aggressiveness is one reason why their targets often are less than forthcoming.
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mattyroo (831) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
What Redbaiter said!
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Johnboy (10,722) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Pauleastbay: Fucking beauty mate!

I can see it now: John Belushi as Shane. David Caradine as Chris.

Jimbo Anderton as the old priest.

Guest starring: Trevor Duck as Judas Iscariot and Auntie Helen as The Mother Superior/Whore of Jerusalem.

Fucking brilliant. —— I wonder if Peter Jackson is busy at the moment…??

What the fuck do you mean Goofy?….All the cast is already dead?

Sheesh!!
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RKBee (1,344) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
krazykiwi @ 4:21 pm

Mallard on Carter

Distasteful imagary.

CARTER LOOKS A LITTLE BUGGERED.
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krazykiwi (9,188) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Punishment for the reporters who went after Cater? Ha ha the story just keeps getting better. The public are pissed at Carter and will be more pissed at the idea that he’s getting ‘protection’ from Mr Speaker.
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Johnboy (10,722) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Of course there used to be a lot of rumors regarding Mr Speaker up until he tied the knot. Quite fetching he was in his budgie smugglers if you are that way inclined.
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lofty (1,255) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
@redbaiter 5.56 well said red.
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krazykiwi (9,188) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
@Johnboy – Ummmm … nope. Doesn’t work for me.
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thedavincimode (4,693) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
s.russell

“… I stept closer to the TV to see who it was.”

Hmmm. Time to get serious about those glasses, or even the hearing aid.
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Johnboy (10,722) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Congratulations KK you passed the “Straight As ” test.

Who’s next?

(Great archive work by the way. I tried to find it and failed).
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krazykiwi (9,188) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
@Johnboy, no archive — Google : http://images.google.co.nz/images?q=%22lockwood+smith
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Johnboy (10,722) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Ah! I live and learn.
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sooty (46) Says:
June 17th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
I bet Trev went out and bought Chris some flowers. #Yeah right, poison ivy#
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tvb (3,302) Says:
June 18th, 2010 at 7:21 am
The Labour Party use of Tinkerbell against Chris Finlayson shows they are just as homophobic as anyone. For Labour being gay means supporting the Labour Party and you don’t then it is Tinkerbell and everything else they can throw at someone. And Mallard is the worst of the lot. Absolute muck.
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