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		<title>By: David in Chch</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/postal_deliveries.html/comment-page-1#comment-703286</link>
		<dc:creator>David in Chch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some interesting comments. Frankly, I have a PO Box in case some one wants to send me something in hard copy form, but I have cancelled ALL postal bills - they ALL come via email now. I do almost ALL of my banking online, and anything that can&#039;t be done that way usually requires my physical presence at a bank or shop to sign or whatever. So I only check the PO Box once a week, and even then it&#039;s sometimes empty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some interesting comments. Frankly, I have a PO Box in case some one wants to send me something in hard copy form, but I have cancelled ALL postal bills &#8211; they ALL come via email now. I do almost ALL of my banking online, and anything that can&#8217;t be done that way usually requires my physical presence at a bank or shop to sign or whatever. So I only check the PO Box once a week, and even then it&#8217;s sometimes empty.</p>
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		<title>By: wreck1080</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/postal_deliveries.html/comment-page-1#comment-703280</link>
		<dc:creator>wreck1080</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t matter if the fatso dvd&#039;s are late - it just means, you get less dvd&#039;s because delivery time would slow down.

Also, if you order a dvd on the friday for the weekend - it won&#039;t get there until monday now !!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter if the fatso dvd&#8217;s are late &#8211; it just means, you get less dvd&#8217;s because delivery time would slow down.</p>
<p>Also, if you order a dvd on the friday for the weekend &#8211; it won&#8217;t get there until monday now !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/postal_deliveries.html/comment-page-1#comment-703277</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What &#039;mail&#039; is delivered in my mailbox is not mail. It is shit. The sign says &#039;no junkmail&#039; but still it is there.

The other communication I get is &#039;Bills&#039; therefore I do not have a &#039;mailbox&#039; I have a &#039;billbox&quot;

Mail comes by email and a lot of that is shit too, but I can control it, either block or junk it.

Then there are those faxes from unknown numbers international wanting me to change my ISP]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What &#8216;mail&#8217; is delivered in my mailbox is not mail. It is shit. The sign says &#8216;no junkmail&#8217; but still it is there.</p>
<p>The other communication I get is &#8216;Bills&#8217; therefore I do not have a &#8216;mailbox&#8217; I have a &#8216;billbox&#8221;</p>
<p>Mail comes by email and a lot of that is shit too, but I can control it, either block or junk it.</p>
<p>Then there are those faxes from unknown numbers international wanting me to change my ISP</p>
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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/postal_deliveries.html/comment-page-1#comment-703272</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey wreck. What happened to &quot;No delivery fees&amp; no late fees&quot; as the fat sweaty guy says on the ad?

What does it matter if the DVD takes longer to receive or be returned?

(I&#039;ve never used them, as I don&#039;t watch movies, so I don&#039;t know how their system works).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey wreck. What happened to &#8220;No delivery fees&amp; no late fees&#8221; as the fat sweaty guy says on the ad?</p>
<p>What does it matter if the DVD takes longer to receive or be returned?</p>
<p>(I&#8217;ve never used them, as I don&#8217;t watch movies, so I don&#8217;t know how their system works).</p>
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		<title>By: fatman43us</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/postal_deliveries.html/comment-page-1#comment-703271</link>
		<dc:creator>fatman43us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Owen McShane asks: &quot;Does that mean no weekend newspapers?
Surely that would kill the Saturday Herald and Herald on Sunday and the Sunday Star times?&quot;

Where we live, the Herald is delivered by the company about 3.45 a.m.

The Postie is noweher to be seen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owen McShane asks: &#8220;Does that mean no weekend newspapers?<br />
Surely that would kill the Saturday Herald and Herald on Sunday and the Sunday Star times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Where we live, the Herald is delivered by the company about 3.45 a.m.</p>
<p>The Postie is noweher to be seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/postal_deliveries.html/comment-page-1#comment-703267</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d rather they dropped a weekday than Saturday.  Because I am at work on the weekdays, so any signed for deliveries have to be on Saturdays.

But other than that, I&#039;d be happy with one less day a week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather they dropped a weekday than Saturday.  Because I am at work on the weekdays, so any signed for deliveries have to be on Saturdays.</p>
<p>But other than that, I&#8217;d be happy with one less day a week.</p>
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		<title>By: side show bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>side show bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shit you should live in the country David, we must get at least 5 to 10 different items a day, bills, farming mags, rubbish mail, promotions, IRD bullshit, people wanting money, people trying to sell something etc,etc, etc. I remember a few years ago rural delivery tried to make rural mail box holders pay extra for delivery if they lived so many K&#039;s from the city. It was fucking hilarious, they threatened to keep all mail at the mail center if we didn&#039;t pay the delivery fee. Guess what, the clowns were begging farmers to come in and pick up their mail, they couldn&#039;t store it all and chaos at the mail center was the order of the day. Why the hell should we pay extra to receive mail, whats the point of putting a stamp on a letter if the bastards aren&#039;t going to deliver it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shit you should live in the country David, we must get at least 5 to 10 different items a day, bills, farming mags, rubbish mail, promotions, IRD bullshit, people wanting money, people trying to sell something etc,etc, etc. I remember a few years ago rural delivery tried to make rural mail box holders pay extra for delivery if they lived so many K&#8217;s from the city. It was fucking hilarious, they threatened to keep all mail at the mail center if we didn&#8217;t pay the delivery fee. Guess what, the clowns were begging farmers to come in and pick up their mail, they couldn&#8217;t store it all and chaos at the mail center was the order of the day. Why the hell should we pay extra to receive mail, whats the point of putting a stamp on a letter if the bastards aren&#8217;t going to deliver it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/postal_deliveries.html/comment-page-1#comment-703260</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 06:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[viable

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		<title>By: Jeremy Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/postal_deliveries.html/comment-page-1#comment-703259</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 06:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What world does Mr Clarke live in? Why on earth would anyone expect to continue to be paid to work six days a week, when in fact they only work five?&quot;

From memory posties get paid a minimum daily rate based on a structured standard X hour day viable by day of the week (loosely based on average mail volumes) and if their run takes them longer than that (it depends on mail volumes) they get paid overtime... I don&#039;t see why that couldn&#039;t be condensed into 5 days...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What world does Mr Clarke live in? Why on earth would anyone expect to continue to be paid to work six days a week, when in fact they only work five?&#8221;</p>
<p>From memory posties get paid a minimum daily rate based on a structured standard X hour day viable by day of the week (loosely based on average mail volumes) and if their run takes them longer than that (it depends on mail volumes) they get paid overtime&#8230; I don&#8217;t see why that couldn&#8217;t be condensed into 5 days&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: moaningmoa</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/postal_deliveries.html/comment-page-1#comment-703239</link>
		<dc:creator>moaningmoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, newspapers are delivered seperately.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, newspapers are delivered seperately&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Owen McShane</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/postal_deliveries.html/comment-page-1#comment-703237</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen McShane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does that mean no weekend newspapers?
Surely that would kill the Saturday Herald and Herald on Sunday and the Sunday Star times?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does that mean no weekend newspapers?<br />
Surely that would kill the Saturday Herald and Herald on Sunday and the Sunday Star times?</p>
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		<title>By: moaningmoa</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/postal_deliveries.html/comment-page-1#comment-703233</link>
		<dc:creator>moaningmoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dropping Saturday to me makes a tonne of sense, it is an entirely unnecessary delivery day.

However, dropping even one day during the business week is going to cause untold issues.

Most mass-billing systems (specifically the receivables component) is based on assumptions about the delivery of mail within defined time frames, henceforth a reduced number of delivery days would necessitate companies to extend the &quot;days to pay&quot; by  several days to allow for this increased delivery time... Greatly impacting on their cash flow.  

Call centres are typical designed (and staffed) on the assumption so many customers will get their bill, letter, credit notice, etc each day.  If you have reduced delivery days, the call centres will have to increase staffing to allow for increased calls on those delivery days... (possibly a 50% increase in staffing levels).

In short it would be an almighty mess up for the business world, and those are just two example of my head based on my time within the utility industry, and working with IT people from; banking, telecoms, insurance, etc industries.

Yes, there is the internet, but unfortunately having internet access is not a legal requirement, and with the upcoming copyright bill it will be impossible to even require it (as connections can be terminated based merely on accusation). While having a post box on your property is actually a legal requirement (I believe, but am happy to be corrected).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dropping Saturday to me makes a tonne of sense, it is an entirely unnecessary delivery day.</p>
<p>However, dropping even one day during the business week is going to cause untold issues.</p>
<p>Most mass-billing systems (specifically the receivables component) is based on assumptions about the delivery of mail within defined time frames, henceforth a reduced number of delivery days would necessitate companies to extend the &#8220;days to pay&#8221; by  several days to allow for this increased delivery time&#8230; Greatly impacting on their cash flow.  </p>
<p>Call centres are typical designed (and staffed) on the assumption so many customers will get their bill, letter, credit notice, etc each day.  If you have reduced delivery days, the call centres will have to increase staffing to allow for increased calls on those delivery days&#8230; (possibly a 50% increase in staffing levels).</p>
<p>In short it would be an almighty mess up for the business world, and those are just two example of my head based on my time within the utility industry, and working with IT people from; banking, telecoms, insurance, etc industries.</p>
<p>Yes, there is the internet, but unfortunately having internet access is not a legal requirement, and with the upcoming copyright bill it will be impossible to even require it (as connections can be terminated based merely on accusation). While having a post box on your property is actually a legal requirement (I believe, but am happy to be corrected).</p>
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		<title>By: wreck1080</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/postal_deliveries.html/comment-page-1#comment-703228</link>
		<dc:creator>wreck1080</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 04:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@kiwigreg &amp; PaulL

ASB does not offer free internet banking for certain account types. 

SO, yes, ASB send me a letter every time a deposit is made into the account -  crazy I know, but NZ banks are pretty backward when it comes to international banking. It is actually worse than this, I get 3 letters in total. 
 
Hire couriers?    This would significantly increase the cost of fatso. I doubt that would be an option for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kiwigreg &amp; PaulL</p>
<p>ASB does not offer free internet banking for certain account types. </p>
<p>SO, yes, ASB send me a letter every time a deposit is made into the account &#8211;  crazy I know, but NZ banks are pretty backward when it comes to international banking. It is actually worse than this, I get 3 letters in total. </p>
<p>Hire couriers?    This would significantly increase the cost of fatso. I doubt that would be an option for them.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulL</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/postal_deliveries.html/comment-page-1#comment-703208</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fatso could deliver via courier instead of mail.  Problem solved there.

Bank deposits - have you not heard of internet banking?  Can your bank not e-mail you?  I&#039;ve never heard of anyone needing to learn by mail that money has been deposited in their bank account.  Does your bank send you a letter every time you get a deposit?

I&#039;m all in favour of just cancelling the mail entirely.  I have no need to get it - the things that I get via mail at th emoment I&#039;d rather get via e-mail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fatso could deliver via courier instead of mail.  Problem solved there.</p>
<p>Bank deposits &#8211; have you not heard of internet banking?  Can your bank not e-mail you?  I&#8217;ve never heard of anyone needing to learn by mail that money has been deposited in their bank account.  Does your bank send you a letter every time you get a deposit?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all in favour of just cancelling the mail entirely.  I have no need to get it &#8211; the things that I get via mail at th emoment I&#8217;d rather get via e-mail.</p>
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		<title>By: KiwiGreg</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/06/postal_deliveries.html/comment-page-1#comment-703206</link>
		<dc:creator>KiwiGreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If they cancelled saturday deliveries, and only delivered every couple of days, I’m cancelling my fatso subscription. 

Also, I need to know as soon as possible about bank deposits (the bank posts advice). That will be inconvenient for me too. &quot;

So maybe fatso needs to like, I dont know, hire a courier.

On your second point, learn to internet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If they cancelled saturday deliveries, and only delivered every couple of days, I’m cancelling my fatso subscription. </p>
<p>Also, I need to know as soon as possible about bank deposits (the bank posts advice). That will be inconvenient for me too. &#8221;</p>
<p>So maybe fatso needs to like, I dont know, hire a courier.</p>
<p>On your second point, learn to internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Widerstrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Widerstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All this is great in theory but has every sector of NZ society caught up with the 21st century yet? I&#039;m thinking particularly of institutions like the courts, local authorities and so on, who in my experience seem to be wedded to the quaint notion that delivery of something can only be proven to have occurred if it were passed across the counter of a postal outlet rather than dispatched via an email server, despite the fact most email clients can request automatic delivery and read receipts.

I&#039;m forced to traipse to my post box far more times a week than I&#039;d prefer just because I need to receive something I could have had via email days earlier.

If daily postal deliveries are to disappear, I&#039;d suggest a quick Bill saying &quot;henceforth, delivery by email is acceptable for everything, in any circumstance&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this is great in theory but has every sector of NZ society caught up with the 21st century yet? I&#8217;m thinking particularly of institutions like the courts, local authorities and so on, who in my experience seem to be wedded to the quaint notion that delivery of something can only be proven to have occurred if it were passed across the counter of a postal outlet rather than dispatched via an email server, despite the fact most email clients can request automatic delivery and read receipts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m forced to traipse to my post box far more times a week than I&#8217;d prefer just because I need to receive something I could have had via email days earlier.</p>
<p>If daily postal deliveries are to disappear, I&#8217;d suggest a quick Bill saying &#8220;henceforth, delivery by email is acceptable for everything, in any circumstance&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: kyotolaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyotolaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I would really like is email notification that there has been something go in to my PO Box. That way I wouldn&#039;t be clearing it until I needed to...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I would really like is email notification that there has been something go in to my PO Box. That way I wouldn&#8217;t be clearing it until I needed to&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Put it away</title>
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		<dc:creator>Put it away</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wreck1080 - HTFU and drive to the video shop or learn how to download... no one is interested in your whinging and apparent belief that you have a right to have every nz post user subsidise your video deliveries. Sheesh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wreck1080 &#8211; HTFU and drive to the video shop or learn how to download&#8230; no one is interested in your whinging and apparent belief that you have a right to have every nz post user subsidise your video deliveries. Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: wreck1080</title>
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		<dc:creator>wreck1080</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DPF, what about these postal services? 

If they cancelled saturday deliveries, and only delivered every couple of days, I&#039;m cancelling my fatso subscription. 

Also, I need to know as soon as possible about bank deposits (the bank posts advice).  That will be inconvenient for me too. 

Just because you and a few others don&#039;t care, doesn&#039;t mean this doesn&#039;t affect others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DPF, what about these postal services? </p>
<p>If they cancelled saturday deliveries, and only delivered every couple of days, I&#8217;m cancelling my fatso subscription. </p>
<p>Also, I need to know as soon as possible about bank deposits (the bank posts advice).  That will be inconvenient for me too. </p>
<p>Just because you and a few others don&#8217;t care, doesn&#8217;t mean this doesn&#8217;t affect others.</p>
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		<title>By: simpleton</title>
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		<dc:creator>simpleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hear Hear KiwiGreg.

No mail
Certainly none from IRD , ACC , District Councils, and fancy name regional councils and etc. Would be much better for them to try and find me, than to say that since they posted it , you are now liable plus any penalties.

Whoops that refund, where is it?

Might end up going back to having my PO box for free too. with icreased efficiency]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear Hear KiwiGreg.</p>
<p>No mail<br />
Certainly none from IRD , ACC , District Councils, and fancy name regional councils and etc. Would be much better for them to try and find me, than to say that since they posted it , you are now liable plus any penalties.</p>
<p>Whoops that refund, where is it?</p>
<p>Might end up going back to having my PO box for free too. with icreased efficiency</p>
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