The speech Goff should have given

June 18th, 2010 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

in pens the speech he thinks should have given. An extract:

I have told the worst offenders – Chris Carter, Shane Jones and Mita Ririnui – that they have no place in my Labour Party. I told them they will be demoted to the very back of Parliament, with no portfolio, and they will not be members of any cabinet I lead. Mr Carter said that, if I did this, he would resign. I told him that was a good idea. He has since resigned and there will be a by-election in Te Atatu.

National begins that campaign as frontrunner. They won the party vote in 2008. But we will fight hard, because Labour always fights hard for the people we represent.

As leader, I have invited the local Labour Party to find the best candidate – male or female, Maori or Pakeha, gay or straight – but I want a genuine Westie. I want someone who grew up in the tough streets, who knows what it’s like not having enough money to pay the bills, who started a small business, pays their workers well, has become a leader in the community, who coaches kids’ sport in the weekend. I want real Labour.

I like his ending also:

There will be room for Peter Dunne in my government to continue as minister of revenue.  I want the Greens involved in conservation and the environment.  And it is time for Labour and the Maori Party to put our differences behind us.  I apologise for Labour’s disgraceful behaviour over the foreshore and seabed.  We were wrong.  Tariana Turia and Pita Sharples were right.

A new era is being born out of the disgraces of the past.  The Helen Clark era is over.  The Phil Goff era has begun.

The full column is only in the NBR print edition.

If Labour do not mend bridges with the Maori Party, they probably won’t be able to form a Government. Without the Maori Party, Labour and the Greens need to win 62 seats to govern.

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41 Responses to “The speech Goff should have given”

  1. RKBee (1,344 comments) says:

    The Helen Clark Phil Goff era is over its time for a new Labour and a new begining.

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  2. Scorpio (412 comments) says:

    Sounds like the best speech Phil Goff has never given. Pity really.

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  3. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    yep…!..i agree…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  4. Pete George (23,429 comments) says:

    All Labour need to do is mend bridges with the Maori Party, the Greens and the electorate, then they’ll be fine.

    But the “strategists” wouldn’t dare do anything that might suggest Hooton’s advice is being followed. Their new slogan might as well be “62 by ’62”.

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  5. GJ (329 comments) says:

    And the likely hood of Goff every giving a speech like that ZERO!

    Agree it is what is needed from the Labour party, however he has his head stuck firmly in the sand.

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  6. Sonny Blount (1,848 comments) says:

    The labour strategy is the disappearance of the Maori Party, they believe they alone are entitled to the votes of Maori NZers.

    Amusingly, the massive wealth and numerous big business interests of the tribes generated by the settlements, may make them natural National allies in the future.

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  7. eszett (2,394 comments) says:

    That’s not going to happen with Phil Goff.
    Hopefully with the next leader, but not with this one.

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  8. Jack5 (5,007 comments) says:

    I wouldn’t buy the NBR to read Hooton.

    I wouldn’t read him even if the NBR offered to pay me.

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  9. Jman (84 comments) says:

    “I want someone who grew up in the tough streets, who knows what it’s like not having enough money to pay the bills, who started a small business, pays their workers well, has become a leader in the community, who coaches kids’ sport in the weekend.”

    Labour’s problem is that this person is a National supporter. I think they will have to stick with another academic or union bore.

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  10. Mr Nobody NZ (397 comments) says:

    Hell if Goff made that speech and over the months until election acted in line with is sentiment I would vote for them. However the best we get from him at the moment is a new practiced walk and the same old crap from the labour team.

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  11. lastmanstanding (1,279 comments) says:

    No No No Thats not the speech we of the RIGHT ever want to hear from Phil

    BTW hes walking like hes got a lemon stuck up his arse

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  12. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,880 comments) says:

    lastman. Maybe he has. If he keeps it up he’ll throw a hip out of joint.

    The other day, I could have sworn he was wearing make up if parliament.

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  13. Ed Snack (1,836 comments) says:

    And your worst nightmare, Labour plus greens get 55 seats, and…. Yes, Winston comes back, surfing a wave a disaffection from the weak-kneed behaviour of National, with 7 seats, and demands the posts of Treasurer, minister of Racing, and Minster of additional perks, from whichever party will do the deal. Don’t think they won’t.

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  14. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    I knew Carter was a fruit but I never realized what sort till now. Thanks lastman. :)

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  15. max (31 comments) says:

    Like John Key did to English then.

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  16. ben (2,420 comments) says:

    Nice move by Matthew Hooton. Its a good approach and possibly a wining one for Labour. Now that Matthew has said there is no way Phil Goff will be able to do it.

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  17. markm (112 comments) says:

    “Absolutely” Phil Goff the Minister for silly walks

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  18. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    Like John Key did to English then.

    What law did Bill English break?

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  19. Inventory2 (10,265 comments) says:

    ben said

    Its a good approach and possibly a wining one for Labour.

    Did you mean winning or whining Ben? ;-)

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  20. Yvette (2,765 comments) says:

    “All Labour need to do is mend bridges with the Maori Party, the Greens and the electorate, then they’ll be fine.”

    No, they actually need to convince some of the public they are worth voting for. And with people like Chris Carter still there that will be harder than it already is,

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  21. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    I’m sure Goff would love to give a speech like this.

    I just can’t see Helen approving it.

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  22. dime (9,806 comments) says:

    krazykiwi- HAHAHA

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  23. tvb (4,324 comments) says:

    Labour has one card to play and that is WELFARE. They stuck as many people as they could on welfare. They designed family care so they could extend WELFARE with high marginal tax rates deep into every home that has children. And they want you to stay there. The Maori Party represents ASPIRATIONAL maori, Labour doesn’t. So Labour has a problem. In Australia the ALP has tried to move away from welfare and into aspirational voters, new Labour tried the same in UK. Unless Labour can at least give aspirational voters some hope they may well be stuck in the early 30% for good.

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  24. Poliwatch (335 comments) says:

    “As leader, I have invited the local Labour Party to find the best candidate – male or female, Maori or Pakeha, gay or straight – but I want a genuine Westie. I want someone who grew up in the tough streets, who knows what it’s like not having enough money to pay the bills, who started a small business, pays their workers well, has become a leader in the community, who coaches kids’ sport in the weekend. I want real Labour.”

    Trouble all these people voted National last time. Philu – these are the “elitist” you often rave about!!

    BTW Philu – it was good to see you endorsed the speech Goff should have made. There might be hope for the left yet.

    (This has been another balanced comment from Poliwatch)

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  25. big bruv (13,702 comments) says:

    lastmanstanding

    You could not be more wrong, that is exactly the speech that we on the right want Goff to give.

    It would be all the better if that speech resulted in a huge increase in support for Goff as it would force this gutless bunch of wankers we currently have in power to move to give up the centre left and move to the right.

    This would be the perfect excuse for the Nat’s to really take a big stick to social welfare, it would force the bastards to do what they are afraid of doing.

    Take that fucking idiot Nick Smith’s latest brain wave as an example, the Nat’s would rather penalise decent average battlers who have worked all their lives and suffered hearing loss than do something about the thousands and thousands of slappers who make a living out of the DPB, they would rather charge some old bastard 3-4K for his hearing aides than take the dole off the likes of the Kahui family.

    The Nat’s are no different to Labour, they would rather make it hard for working people than they would for bludgers, fuck em, they are worthy of nothing more than your and my contempt.

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  26. Tauhei Notts (1,680 comments) says:

    jMAN AT 2.46 P.M.
    100% CORRECT.

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  27. Swampash (114 comments) says:

    Unfortunately Labour’s criteria are pretty much

    – Academic
    – Unionist
    – Homosexual.

    “Pick any two.”

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  28. Fale Andrew Lesa (473 comments) says:

    “If Labour do not mend bridges with the Maori Party, they probably won’t be able to form a Government.”

    I think that Labour is happy sticking with it’s principle, to favour an equal society that defies the concept of cultural favourtism or the expansion of separatist initiative.

    Unlike National, that seems to foolishly forget where it’s political ideology lies.

    :D

    [DPF: So that is why Labour just voted for a bill to have compulsory Maori seats on every local body in NZ?]

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  29. Viking2 (11,367 comments) says:

    If Labour do not mend bridges with the Maori Party, they probably won’t be able to form a Government. Without the Maori Party, Labour and the Greens need to win 62 seats to govern.”

    Labour should be vigorously assisted with the task of winning back the Maori Party.

    Once they do then the Nats. can do what should have been done some time ago. They would have a good reason to do the job.
    They probably won’t have the guts.

    But they should still get rid of the Maori seats as advised by the Commission way back at the beginning of MMP.

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  30. JeffW (325 comments) says:

    You beat me to it TNotts, jMAN’s got it

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  31. Caroline Castle (16 comments) says:

    Well, Goff will be even more pissed off today with Carter. Anyone see see Campbell live? Apparently Close Up rang Carter and he told them they would get an exclusive when and if he is giving interviews. Close Up ran this.

    Meanwhile over at Campbell Live they ran a tape with him saying exactly the same thing to them.

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  32. thedavincimode (6,612 comments) says:

    Swampash

    The “any” is superfluous. They pick only two.

    The Unionist dips out but is too stupid to realise that his/her party has been hijacked.

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  33. burt (8,199 comments) says:

    Another version;

    I want someone who grew up in the tough streets, who knows what it’s like not having enough money to pay the bills, who contemplated starting a small business but realised benefit abatement rates and actually paying no tax made it real sensible to just coast and lap up the nectar or other peoples labours. l want someone who understands our target demographic values. Being gay would be good but it’s not essential.

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  34. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    You shit stirrer DPF, taunting Labour while they are down.

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  35. Fale Andrew Lesa (473 comments) says:

    [DPF: So that is why Labour just voted for a bill to have compulsory Maori seats on every local body in NZ?]

    :D

    Labour has traditionally supported local government representation of Maori, at the same time however it has drawn a line and has provided provisions to restrict it’s influence. Under the leadership of Helen Clark and the last Labour-led administration we experienced an assertive approach by government towards ‘mainstream – central political’ motives for Maori. This was noticed on the issue of the Seabed and Foreshore, Helen Clark’s refusal to reconcile with the Maori of Waitangi, Labour’s refusal to endorse the Maori Sovereignty flag, etc.

    One thing is certain, no one expected the National government of today to appease Maori expansion.

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  36. Michael (903 comments) says:

    If Goff gave that speech he would have to also sack Ardern, Robertson, Cunliffe, Dyson, Hughes, Dalziel, Laban, Street, Pillay, Fenton, Beaumont, Burns, Curran, Hipkins, Mackey, Chadwick, Moroney, Barker, Choudrey, Sio, Davis, Huo, Lees-Galloway, Prasad, Nash, Prasad, Sepuloni and Twyford as they don’t fit the Westie/hard worker/blue collar image he tried to portray.

    On second thought …

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  37. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    Goff was emasculated by Clark years ago. The poor soul has nothing under his trouser’s zipper, so the lenient treatment of Carter was expected.

    The knives will be out for him in a matter of months.

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  38. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    ‘Cometh the hour, cometh the man’ eh?

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  39. Chuck Bird (4,833 comments) says:

    I have told the worst offenders – Chris Carter, Shane Jones and Mita Ririnui – that they have no place in my Labour Party.

    How does Hooton come to view that Mita Ririnui is one of the worst offenders? Ririnui made a couple of large personal purchases but paid then back promptly without having to be asked. Sure, he broke the rules but made to deliberate attempt not to pay. Many of the other Labour ministers only paid when asked hoping that their personal spending would not have been noticed.

    Goff gives Carter a slap on the wrist and promotes three homosexuals. He is more concerned about upset the still powerful homosexual faction of the Labour Party than upsetting Maori.

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  40. American Gardener (556 comments) says:

    Are you saying that there is a “gay mafia” operating within the Labour Party ?

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  41. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    “Are you saying that there is a “gay mafia” operating within the Labour Party ?”

    Does night follow day? Is the Pope a Catholic?

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