10 thoughts on the Chris Carter affair
- Chris Carter’s political career is over. He will have a very lonely existence in Parliament until the general election.
- Carter will be expelled from the Labour Party on 7 August
- His anonymous letter against Goff will go down as the worst backfire in recent political history
- I have no doubt that his motivation was to get back at Goff for taking Foreign Affairs off him, not a genuine concern that Labour would not win under Goff
- Carter’s actions has ironically guaranteed Goff will remain in the job
- However his actions has also made it much tougher for Goff to win the next election, with Carter’s effective pronouncement of Goff as unelectable a quote that will resurface. Goff will in all probability lose the election and then be rolled afterwards.
- Carter’s suggestion that he knew the letter would be traced, and he is glad it is out there is bullshit. He is trying to make an act of treachery look noble.
- Carter’s letter was not grossly inaccurate. That is not the sin. The sin is circulating such a letter anonymously to the gallery. What is even stupider is that there was no need to do so. He could have verbally leaked to some journos, and got an anti-Goff story up without fingerprints.
- Carter’s comments that Labour can only gain power with the help of New Zealand First should serve as a warning about what it will mean if people vote Labour in 2011.
- Carter’s rationality has been questioned by some Labour MPs. This is a fair point. I’ve never known someone to declare the Leader must go, when there is no candidate willing or ready to challenge.
I’d love to see the text messages between New York and Te Atatu over the last 48 hours.
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Tags: Chris Carter, Labour, Labour Leadership, Phil Goff
July 30th, 2010 at 7:42 am
If he were an adult he would have held a press conference and stated it publicly instead of this sneaky attempt. He initially DENIED IT. Then admitted it but tried to spin it that he was doing it in a semi open way. He is a pathetic old man. He could have been a sort of gay icon having broken down barriers to gay men entering public life. He would have got a senior gong and much else. Not now.
July 30th, 2010 at 7:45 am
as I look back on my working life I regret some of my stupid behaviour (aged in my mid thirties) and I lament that these are things my father should have knocked out of me when I was 10.
July 30th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Point seven is the most accurate of the summation, Carter has acted in a typically bitchy way after he had his toys taken away.
Good riddance to a loathsome individual. The bitchy behaviour is straight out of the Helen Book, no guts just fucking nasty.
Even a rumour of labour and NZ First being anywhere near the Treasury benches is enough to make me feel physically sick.
July 30th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Sound analysis, DPF. But at the moment I’m having difficulty treating anything seriously about this story after hearing Carter interviewed this morning on Newstalk ZB.
The interviewer, inquiring about Carter’s role in Parliament after being expelled, asked the question of the day: “Are you just going to become a pain in the bum?”
July 30th, 2010 at 7:53 am
“treachery” and “sin” hehe, no but really, he’s proven he’s the only one among them with the balls to do what would have otherwise taken another 3 years. Or more. Violently rolling the dice like that is always a 50/50 risk on outcome. If it were not for such unconventional and irrational acts, we wouldn’t have the Maori Party (you can be the judge on whether we need them or not!) or, for that matter, the National Party. It’s even more interesting than seeing Winnie haulled over the coals, because this one follows none of the rules.
July 30th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Watching Campbell Live was like watching a political train wreck in real time, about all that was missing was walking off the stage ala Conners.
It’s interesting the last comment re: txt from NY -> Te Atatu, Carter talkign did reminded me a little of HC’s speech, the total conviction that Carter was indispensable was HC like. The other thing that stuck for me was it was like Carter had single issue craziness, so focused on one thing ( 4 week holiday ), he couldn’t rationally comprehend anything else.
The alternative theory would be that there is an imminent relationship breakup about to occur.
July 30th, 2010 at 7:57 am
The outcome of narcicism – self indulgence, then self destruction.
July 30th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Carter stated the obvious in the most damaging way possible.
It show’s how removed from reality he is, it seems like he really thought he would help Labour win the next election.
July 30th, 2010 at 8:05 am
I think the contents of Carters’ letter make interesting reading. There are more problems within the Labour Party than they would like us to know. Labour Parties are collapsing everywhere. Hopefully permanently, as we move to the post socialism era.
July 30th, 2010 at 8:06 am
You’re all just picking on him because he’s gay…and a moron….and a left-wing dipshit.
July 30th, 2010 at 8:14 am
TVP. true but only to be replaced with the slightly righter version of Labours socialism.
Carter is a self indulgent child. Toys, cot say it all.
July 30th, 2010 at 8:14 am
seems like he really thought he would help Labour win the next election.
Don’t know if he wanted to help, but he may have inadvertently offered a opportunity if the rest of the party aren’t half asleep. Labour could win, or, what is usual in NZ politics, lose less rapidly than their opponents. If the contents of the letter are correct, he’s not removed from reality at all. He’s a catalyst for rapid change. NZders love that stuff. It’s half the reason the John Key government is so popular: He’s new (to them) and he’s not Helen. All Labour need to do is find a part charismatic part intellectual male alternative to Goff. How hard could that be? Speed is the key.
July 30th, 2010 at 8:15 am
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/news-cartoons/news/article.cfm?c_id=500814&objectid=10662218
July 30th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Morning report explains it all Tibet. Trevor’s interview was very interesting.
July 30th, 2010 at 8:21 am
And the farce unveils while the puppeteer pulls the strings from her lofty offices in New York.
July 30th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Comments by Paul Marsden and Fiona on other rhreads are worth noting and highlighting. This man was a SENIOR CABINET MINISTER in the last Labour Government. He was charged with exercising JUDGEMENT and DISCRETION in a major leadership role in our country. He was privy to STATE SECRETS and was instrumental in SHAPING LEGISLATION that affects our lives every day.
And what is he? – a petulant little poof who throws his toys out of the cot on a whim. Is that scary or what? What depth of talent really existed in Helen Clark’s Cabinet?
On another tack, no-one seems to have twigged that Phil might have pushed Carter knowing he would crack. Is this the first shot in a challenge to the Rainbow Faction’s strangle-hold over party seniority and list positioning for the 2011 election? Phil can read the tea-leaves as well as anyone and knows full well that he has to reposition Labour if thay stand any chance in his political lifetime and the one major impediment is the GLL (Gay Left Liberal) faction who’s power miust be overcome somehow.
Who is next, Maryan?, Chuckie?
July 30th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Indeed Manolo. If Helen Clark asked Chris Carter to jump, he would be asking “How high?”
July 30th, 2010 at 8:32 am
NatRad has been busy on it, Mallard and Little certainly aren’t backing Carter, and DPF (on holiday??) and Chris Trotter in unison consigning him to a very lonely back bench as an independent. The lower his perch the stranger he has acted, does that mean more very public pine and decline?
July 30th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Helens Clarks efforts to remote control the labour explode. Carter the political suicide bomber is the only casualty.
This isn’t going to impact negatively on Goff or the laboutr party because everyone can see Carter has just gone batshit crazy in his self involved little world.
He’s done, next story.
July 30th, 2010 at 8:39 am
How many times did Chris C mention “Asset Sales” last night on TV. Is this the best Labour can come up with to attack National
July 30th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Maybe Chris with spare time on his hands can go back to school and learn to read and write properly?
Aunty Helen and Heather are fuming in the Big Bad Apple. What a rainbow of deceit and lies New Zealand politics is. Will we EVER be free of such low down fools?
July 30th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Maybe there is potential for a political conspiarcy thriller here. “The Rainbow Conection”.
The muppets could film it and Carter could be played by Beaker. Mememememememe!
July 30th, 2010 at 8:47 am
No Murray a soap would be better , maybe call it ‘Rainbow Days In Our Tormented Lives’?
July 30th, 2010 at 8:47 am
In the words of the Kurgan, “It’s better to burnout than to fade away”
at least Carter won’t die wondering what if…
July 30th, 2010 at 8:51 am
..I think we are watching a breakdown in action…someone call a doctor..
July 30th, 2010 at 8:54 am
DPF I can’t quite remember the Bill English Maurice Williamson saga of around 2002, but this seems to have some parallels, which concerns me because I would like to see Carter gone for all money
July 30th, 2010 at 9:01 am
I’m interested in the evidence. Carter sent the leak to journalists, but a copy of the leak made its made back to Goff. Including the envelope. How? Who? And Goff had access to the CCTV footage. Does parliamentary services normally allow the Leader of the Opposition to track people as they walk around parliament?
July 30th, 2010 at 9:06 am
davidp
Check the photo used by the media.
Espiner was quick to say it wasn’t him but the envelope pictured has Vernon Small’s name clearly visible.
Fill-in also backed off the CCTV claim last night.
July 30th, 2010 at 9:15 am
I agree with Nigel – Chris Carter did sound exactly like Helen Clark when speaking on Campbell Live last night. It was quite incredible actually. His diction and the way he emphasised certain words was exactly like HC. There is no doubt in my mind that he had been coached by HC, word for word, for that interview.
July 30th, 2010 at 9:18 am
TVNZ had Right-wing political commentator Chris Trotter on breakfast TV to discuss the fallout from this.
July 30th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Would the person who leaked Don Brash’s emails to Hagar please step up to the plate. We need your expertise to track down the NY-Te Atatu correspondence as suggested in DPF’s commentary. It would indeed be interesting.
Labour perhaps now has two issues to deal with in response – the traditional tensions between the unions and the Labour parliamentary wing and the question (can’t call it more than that without evidence) from afar.
July 30th, 2010 at 9:27 am
… not to mention the use of envelopes marked as from the office of the Finance Minister. Why could that be?
July 30th, 2010 at 9:32 am
The timing is interesting on many levels, but here is one think I picked up this morning, Helen is back in NZ on the 11th of August.
http://akywca.org.nz/news-and-events/news/gala-dinner-details-out-now.aspx
July 30th, 2010 at 9:44 am
I still think there is much more to this than meets the eye.
Keep an eye on Street and Dyson, both would be acceptable to the rainbow and union factions of the Labour party, a leadership change before August 7 would enable Carter to stay a member of the Labour party.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Time may well prove Carter to be correct in everything he said.
But I wonder what he expected to happen – that his note would catalyze a coup, and when the dust settled after the power players had traded their blows, he (Carter) would magically be back on the inner again?
If so, that hasn’t worked out too well for him…
July 30th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Every party has its nutters. Ever heard of Nick Smith?
To suggest that somehow Carter’s actions are going to influence an election over 12 months away is wishful thinking.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:20 am
I agree with Nigel. Chris Carter creepily sounded exactly like Helen Clark on Campbell Live last night. It was quite extraordinary. His diction and the way he emphasised certain words was exactly like Helen Clark. I have no doubt she coached him on what to say right before the interview.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:21 am
One almost wonders whether Phil Goff, in a Shakespearean moment, muttered under his breath a little too loudly “‘Will someone rid me of this petulant poof?”
July 30th, 2010 at 10:22 am
david (1,461) Says:
July 30th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Comments by Paul Marsden and Fiona on other rhreads are worth noting and highlighting. This man was a SENIOR CABINET MINISTER in the last Labour Government. He was charged with exercising JUDGEMENT and DISCRETION in a major leadership role in our country. He was privy to STATE SECRETS and was instrumental in SHAPING LEGISLATION that affects our lives every day.
And what is he? – a petulant little poof who throws his toys out of the cot on a whim. Is that scary or what? What depth of talent really existed in Helen Clark’s Cabinet?
On another tack, no-one seems to have twigged that Phil might have pushed Carter knowing he would crack. Is this the first shot in a challenge to the Rainbow Faction’s strangle-hold over party seniority and list positioning for the 2011 election? Phil can read the tea-leaves as well as anyone and knows full well that he has to reposition Labour if thay stand any chance in his political lif
Carter in fact has considerable talent, David confues talent with behaviour. He certainly has more political talent than Paula Bennett, Anne Tolley, Phil Heatley, Gerry Brownlie, Nick Smith…….
July 30th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Maggie, if this is a demonstration of his political talent then I’ll disagree with you. I had to laugh at the way he kept saying to Campbell that ‘this is the way it works in politics’. Didn’t work for you Chris…
July 30th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Street Dyson ? Acceptable to only the rainbow labour and I suspect even some of them would struggle to swallow either at the helm.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:36 am
The country didn’t need to be told by Carter that Goff can not win the election for Labour. Everyone knows that already.
Leading a party that has been chucked out of office is invariably a poisoned chalice. As a Minister, Goff always impressed me, but as an opposition political party leader with a very wooden style of delivery he just can’t deliver and there is no possibility of his leading a bunch of tired old MP’s back into power anytime soon.
Labour has no David Lange waiting to enter Parliament and lead them to power.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:37 am
DPF>> Carter’s actions has ironically guaranteed Goff will remain in the job.
I disagree… there will be more preasure on Cunliffe to roll Goff sooner… because Labour supporters public and media will be pushing for Goff to step down and for Cunliffe to take over as leadership to give labour some credibility for the next election.
If he doesn’t bow to the preasure and stands behind Goff as leader.. he will loose his own credibility..
either way if he stay’s with Goff through the election then rolls him after or rolls him before hand because of his supporters and media preasure.
It is all looking good for Andrew Little..
July 30th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Carter in fact has considerable talent, David confues talent with behaviour. He certainly has more political talent than Paula Bennett, Anne Tolley, Phil Heatley, Gerry Brownlie, Nick Smith…….
ROTFLMAO
July 30th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Then there is the question of who will win the nomination for New Lynn. My bet is that it will be CARTER’s wife/husband/spouse who is the Chairperson of the branch.I have no doubt that that branch’s membership is already dominated by Rainbow Faction members. It will then come down to the Union vote. If Labour win we could well have a situation where the World Wide excursions to erotic and exotic foreign destinies will resume with the partner now the senior member.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Exactly what the fuck is political talent? Please define.
I thought we employed these useless chutney ferrets to get on with ensuring that NZ is a safe, prosperous country to live and work in.
Does this mincing, out of touch old fool really think that getting rid of Goff and sticking some other equally irrelevant fossil, faggot or up and coming public sector policy wonk in as “Leader” is going to suddenly make people give the current labour troughers another crack at the public purse?
It’s about time that “politics” took a back seat in favour of actually getting something done to stop the decline of living standards and cancerous growth of taxation and “governance”.
It’s like watching a particularly unfunny sit com, Spin City without the humour and a double dose of spin and incompetence.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:46 am
davinci
… not to mention the use of envelopes marked as from the office of the Finance Minister. Why could that be?
Around Parliament, letterhead envelopes are about as hard to find as three-leafed clovers on a dairy farm.
The fact he used one from an office he has never held strongly suggests an attempt to throw people off the trail. His claim that he really wanted people to know who wrote the letter looks even more improbable.
And this guy is a former Minister of Education! Good God – just how shallow was the talent pool in the last Labour cabinet?
July 30th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Long may Labour screw up and make asses of them selves.
NZ1st in the wings to be in Govt with them, oh let it be front page news for the next 12 months!
However this mustn’t mean we give Neville Key a free run, make sure the buggers got someone to hold his hand.
We Need it!
Vote your PARTY VOTE 2 ACT next time.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:55 am
How marvelous all this is, adds meaning to a beautiful spring day. Hand bags at ten paces, the mascara will be dripping from the walls in the Liarbore caucus room.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:10 am
You must be joking. I have copy of Carter’s email to student Simeon Brown. I in image format so I can not show it with this post. The following link explains some of the 13 errors in a short email.
http://grammatically.blogspot.com/2007/12/bad-spell-for-politician.html
There is no way Carter got the job of Minister of Education on merit. Helen gave him the job on what one can only speculate.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Carter apparently took an unauthorised trip to Tibet?
July 30th, 2010 at 11:23 am
A common assertion that is patently unfair to Goff, who at least appears to be genuinely trying his best. It is Labour that doesn’t look up to winning the next election, Goff just happens to be the current leader.
And one of the biggest factors for Labour’s lack of recovery in the polls and public favour – before this debacle and certainly since it – has been Carter. It is he more than anyone who has helped ensure, and keeps ensuring, that Labour (with Goff) aren’t up to winning the next election.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:28 am
I think Chris Carter self destructing can only benefit Labour. It is like they have thrown away some dirty laundry. Labour without Chris Carter can only be stronger. If only a few others would do likewise.
WTF, trips to Tibet? He is not with FA anymore, and nor was he ever shadowing them. Not too many Wekas on the high plateaus of Tibet!
July 30th, 2010 at 11:49 am
The Chris Carter affair…National finally activates their sleeper agent within labour.
July 30th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
PG: “It is Labour that doesn’t look up to winning the next election, Goff just happens to be the current leader.”
A quite extraordinary statement, Pete. Phil Goff has been a senior member of the Labour leadership group for many years. For close to two years he has been Leader of the Labour Party, elected unanimously as I recall. How can Mr Goff’s leadership of Labour now be divorced from Labour’s philosophical and political travails, and the serious disillusionment of the public with what Labour has to offer?
I have no idea what you expect of a leader. I look for someone who can assemble a capable team around him/her, guide them in a collaborative process of formulating a viable strategy, reinforce the efforts of those charged with providing the resources to implement the strategy, and inspire a disciplined and united team to achieve each milestone detailed in the documented strategic plan.
From my perspective, Mr Goff seems to have found progress on the first challenge somewhat beyond him, and without succeeding there he has little chance with any of the other elements.
July 30th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
calendar girl, who in Labour other than Goff do you think could have had Labour in a position now to look like credibly challenging National in the next election? Labour’s best chance was for Key to turn out to be a disaster, but (despite what some here say) he has been the opposite, he has high levels of popular support.
But even if Key jumped ship and took the Labour reins I don’t think Labour stand a chance, especially after the Carter disaster.
No need to read further than that. The electorate gave him his team, he didn’t have the luxury of assembling it himself. It is still not looking capable despite his efforts.
July 30th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Carter’s behaviour has all the rationality of a P addict.
July 30th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Carter should do the decent thing and take his next taxpayer funded trip to Antartica, one way.
P.S. The penguins don’t take credit cards.
July 30th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Goff should offer him an ambassadorship in Iran.
July 30th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Maybe when Russel Norman was yelling Free Tibet, Chris thought, “Oh that’s a fabulous idea. I can go there for free. Thanks taxpayers.”
July 30th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
“A common assertion that is patently unfair to Goff, who at least appears to be genuinely trying his best.”
and “genuinely trying” counts for nothing except when talking about children. In the real world you have to succeed, not “try”.
July 30th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
I’d love to see the text messages between New York and Te Atatu over the last 48 hours.
Don’t be ridiculous David – He worked completely alone . . . http://monkeyswithtypewriter.blogspot.com/2010/07/lone-assassin-theory.html
Thnx Lee – MWT
July 30th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
KiwiGreg, what choice does anyone leading Labour have but to try their best at the moment? Unless National/Key self-implode there is virtually no chance of anyone leading Labour to victory next election. Some Labour supporters (including Carter) have finally realised this and are panicking, but changing Leader and looking like headless chooks won’t help their recovery at all.
If Goff can manage to regroup Labour, gain a bit of ground in 2011 and set them on the road (probably with a new leader) to stand a reasonable shot at 2014 then he will have succeeded as well as any realist could have expected.
July 30th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Carter didn’t go to Tibet on taxpayer expense – he went at Beijing’s expense!
July 30th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
If I went to Tibet on Beijing’s expense my boss would be pissed off if I hadn’t arranged time off.
Was it all expenses paid by Beijing? Did he leave his credit card behind? Was anyone carrying his bags?
Apart from a few on blogs dreaming that a change of leader will change everything there hasn’t been much public support for Carter, especially from MPs.
July 30th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Pete George Said:The electorate gave him his team, he didn’t have the luxury of assembling it himself.
Bullshit. Its called the party list and documents ranked positions.
Perhaps those rankings are decided by others in the party, but to presume the electorate chose his caucus is pure fantasy.
July 30th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
I think the Wire’s Lester Freamon said it best “Shit like this actually goes through your fucking brain?”
July 30th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
IMHO Carter is acting alone and had a hissy fit over losing FA and bring outed on his expenses. However it seems pretty obvious that Phils not seen by the Socialists as leading them to victory in 2011.
Will David C with a silent T move before the elections. Why bother. Why not just wait for Phil to lose and fall on his sword.
As others have opined the best outcome of we of the right is the return of NZ1 with Winston/Laws. The Socialists grey hairs supporters of the centre will gravitate to them.
If JK and the Nats keep on track the most facinating show will be the depth the Socialists slide on the polls. Will they outperform underperform the Nats under BE.
Could be a good wager they will.
July 30th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Ciaron:
- Labour have 21 electorate MPs, voted by the people of those electorates
- they have 22 list MPs, the number they have was determined by people’s party votes
- the list was selected by the party prior to the election
The electorates chose half, and Goff would not have had a significant role in selecting or ranking the others. He has had to try and work with what he was given.
July 30th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
No one will publicly back Chris Carter. But the machine is turning over, be sure of it. Otherwise Labour are planning to lose the next election – not even make a run! Goff got sucker punched and he’s down, he can’t return from this. I can see it now, hoardings for every MP with a big sad face and slogans underneath like “It’s Chris’s fault we can’t win” or “Goff is doing his best” or “We won’t be a viable choice till 2014… at least.” That’s not a campaign.
No one from Labour can look constituents in the eye and talk about coming to save the people from National until they roll Goff. And National with not just a weak opposition, but none at all. That will be interesting.
July 30th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
lastmanstanding, it could leave a bigger opening for the Winston First Party, but one can dream and hope that a strong party of independents is put together to stand. No better opportunity than 2010. But looking at how Super City mayoral hopefuls aren’t numerous I suspect the right sort of people aren’t prepared to risk the cost and the scrutiny.
Jibbering Gibbon, they could get radical – and honest – and front up to the election asking for as strong a mandate as possible to keep the government honest and rebuild.
July 30th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Isn’t there some kind of register of gifts or something that he would have to declare this on ? Pretty shonky to accept freebies from a foreign power and try to keep it quiet.
July 30th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Pete,
Hypothetically speaking, would not the “best and brightest” (and I use the term very loosely) be situated at the top of said list and/or standing in safe seats?
You will not convince me that senior & caucus positions are left to the whim of the electorate.
July 30th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
re ’10 Thoughts’ … my first thought was that this man leaks inappropriately
July 30th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
The electorates chose half,
not exactly, the electorates elected candidates that the party chose.
July 30th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
“This afternoon Mr Goff said he hoped Mr Carter was getting personal support and denied he was a raising mental health issues to discredit him.
“I am not a physiatrist, I cannot address that issue,” Mr Goff told media in Mt Roskill this afternoon.
“Chris’ behaviour has not been rational over this, it has been anything but rational and it is unacceptable.
“On a personal level we would like to see support given to him, but clearly his behaviour is such he not fit to be a member of parliament.”
He hoped Mr Carter and his partner were getting support.”
…
“Senior Labour MP Trevor Mallard said Mr Carter went without permission from the Labour Party or Mr Goff and had exhibited some “pretty unusual” and “pretty irrational” behaviour lately.”
The latest quarterly release yesterday of MPs’ travel details was probably a trigger for his behaviour, Mr Mallard said, and he was worried about Mr Carter’s behaviour.
Party president Andrew Little also suggested people were concerned about Mr Carter, who had been under a great deal of stress.”
Well, it’s pretty bloody obvious where this is headed.
Men, like the Keystone Cops, in white coats, chasing Carter through Parliament Buildings.
John Kerwin saying “It’s good out the other side.’
July 30th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Key would make a fine old Labour leader, after all he is leading New Labour well ?
July 30th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Carter now has a blog at http://carter.org.nz/
July 30th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Yvette, a nicely drawn image. So good I started hearing the Benny Hill chase theme and visualising CC being patted on the old bald head. LOL
July 30th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Sad thing is, this could be the way it will go. Carter sidelined as mentally unwell. Labour brushes it all under the carpet. Watch how it works. There will probably be a couple of quotes from Mallard on ONE NEWS in less than an hour.
July 30th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
See? – questioning his balance. PRIME.
Mallard referred to the Internet and the expression “WTF”. A stunned mallard?