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		<title>By: workingman</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/3_prescription_charges.html#comment-719244</link>
		<dc:creator>workingman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ben

relevance?

I was rising to and taking the bait from Honest John where he said &quot;Scrub – i’m still waiting for someone from the far right to make up some story about doing volunteer work in disadvantaged communities.&quot;

So I am now waiting for him to say I am making it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ben</p>
<p>relevance?</p>
<p>I was rising to and taking the bait from Honest John where he said &#8220;Scrub – i’m still waiting for someone from the far right to make up some story about doing volunteer work in disadvantaged communities.&#8221;</p>
<p>So I am now waiting for him to say I am making it up.</p>
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		<title>By: angie stone</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/3_prescription_charges.html#comment-719037</link>
		<dc:creator>angie stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Kiwi who was an expat in Africa for many years I am amazed at the way NZers take what they have for granted.

We shold have an exchange programme where we send all these people who come up with excuses to some really hard and impoverished places in Southern and West Africa where I lived. They will come realising that a govt that even bothers to offer them $3 scrips is a God-sent. 

www.angel-charlene.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Kiwi who was an expat in Africa for many years I am amazed at the way NZers take what they have for granted.</p>
<p>We shold have an exchange programme where we send all these people who come up with excuses to some really hard and impoverished places in Southern and West Africa where I lived. They will come realising that a govt that even bothers to offer them $3 scrips is a God-sent. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.angel-charlene.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.angel-charlene.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/3_prescription_charges.html#comment-718866</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I volunteer every year for 2 weeks in the Philippines and help build houses for slum dwellers. So far I have helped build 7 houses, and paid for 3 of them. &lt;/i&gt;

Relevance?

Are you seeking congratulations? If that&#039;s what makes you happy, good on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I volunteer every year for 2 weeks in the Philippines and help build houses for slum dwellers. So far I have helped build 7 houses, and paid for 3 of them. </i></p>
<p>Relevance?</p>
<p>Are you seeking congratulations? If that&#8217;s what makes you happy, good on you.</p>
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		<title>By: jcuknz</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/3_prescription_charges.html#comment-718859</link>
		<dc:creator>jcuknz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>big bruv (6,877) Says: July 15th, 2010 at 4:12 pm 
“despite being gouged maybe $45 for the doctor”

Gouged $45 by a doctor?, hired a bloody lawyer or a plumber latley?

Typical bloody socialist, why do you have a problem paying for a professional persons time and service? 

 The whole point of a health service is for it to be as free as possible as the country can afford.   I remember when going to my GP cost me 50 cents [ admittedly I was only earning $30 a fourtnight at the time and supporting wife and son.]  Medical services should be &#039;free&#039; and covered by our taxes.   The lawyer and plumber are private businesses whose services are not paid for by the taxpayer.   The &#039;rich pricks&#039; stuffed up the trades in New Zealand when they cut down on apprenticeships which led to the current situation.  Meanwhile they have been training lawyers like it was going out of fashion ... absurd!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>big bruv (6,877) Says: July 15th, 2010 at 4:12 pm<br />
“despite being gouged maybe $45 for the doctor”</p>
<p>Gouged $45 by a doctor?, hired a bloody lawyer or a plumber latley?</p>
<p>Typical bloody socialist, why do you have a problem paying for a professional persons time and service? </p>
<p> The whole point of a health service is for it to be as free as possible as the country can afford.   I remember when going to my GP cost me 50 cents [ admittedly I was only earning $30 a fourtnight at the time and supporting wife and son.]  Medical services should be &#8216;free&#8217; and covered by our taxes.   The lawyer and plumber are private businesses whose services are not paid for by the taxpayer.   The &#8216;rich pricks&#8217; stuffed up the trades in New Zealand when they cut down on apprenticeships which led to the current situation.  Meanwhile they have been training lawyers like it was going out of fashion &#8230; absurd!</p>
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		<title>By: jcuknz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcuknz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking about doctors rorting the system.   In Colorado it is legal to use marajana [ however that is spelt -- grass/pot ] if it is for medicinal purposes.   So you find a doctor who first asks &quot;Are you in pain?&#039;  you answer &quot;yes&quot; and then he asks &quot;Will it hurt you&quot; or words to that effect.  You say &quot;No&quot; and he writes out your prescription.  Not sure if it is a sort of licence to buy or a one off prescription.  Anyway one doctor has made a million bucks with these three minute consultations at US$150 a time.  It is all &#039;perfectly&#039; legal.  If you don&#039;t want to smoke then you can get it mixed in with cookies whatever. The Colorado authorities are tightening things up becuase pot sellers were springing up all over the place and as now or shortly it will not be quite so easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about doctors rorting the system.   In Colorado it is legal to use marajana [ however that is spelt -- grass/pot ] if it is for medicinal purposes.   So you find a doctor who first asks &#8220;Are you in pain?&#8217;  you answer &#8220;yes&#8221; and then he asks &#8220;Will it hurt you&#8221; or words to that effect.  You say &#8220;No&#8221; and he writes out your prescription.  Not sure if it is a sort of licence to buy or a one off prescription.  Anyway one doctor has made a million bucks with these three minute consultations at US$150 a time.  It is all &#8216;perfectly&#8217; legal.  If you don&#8217;t want to smoke then you can get it mixed in with cookies whatever. The Colorado authorities are tightening things up becuase pot sellers were springing up all over the place and as now or shortly it will not be quite so easy.</p>
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		<title>By: pollywog</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/3_prescription_charges.html#comment-718824</link>
		<dc:creator>pollywog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why should he do anything? the poor in the Philippines are a damn sight poorer than in this nation. Having been long term unemployed at one point, and been overseas and seen first hand what being poor truly can be, I suggest that you are essentially full of it.&lt;/i&gt;

cheers for that Stu. 

the thing is, the flow on effects of being poor in the phillipines doesn&#039;t affect us directly. So maybe it&#039;s a case of fixing up our own backyard before we go fixing up someone elses.

you reckon ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why should he do anything? the poor in the Philippines are a damn sight poorer than in this nation. Having been long term unemployed at one point, and been overseas and seen first hand what being poor truly can be, I suggest that you are essentially full of it.</i></p>
<p>cheers for that Stu. </p>
<p>the thing is, the flow on effects of being poor in the phillipines doesn&#8217;t affect us directly. So maybe it&#8217;s a case of fixing up our own backyard before we go fixing up someone elses.</p>
<p>you reckon ?</p>
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		<title>By: flipper</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/3_prescription_charges.html#comment-718819</link>
		<dc:creator>flipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not the prescription charge that is the problem.  It is the  cost of getting the prescription.  

For a person on permanent medication it is quite a money spinner for any PHO - particularly one in a provincial centre that has just one PHO - and quite a cost for anyone on NZ Super.

Their charge for a computer generated REPEAT prescription is $12.50.   NO consultation, just bring up the data, print off the scrip,  squiggle an initial and bill $12.50.    

Since one GP rotates the duty each day it is money for jam.   My sources tell me that he/she  does up to 100 scripts per hour if required -  not bad revenue for an already taxpayer subsidised  activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not the prescription charge that is the problem.  It is the  cost of getting the prescription.  </p>
<p>For a person on permanent medication it is quite a money spinner for any PHO &#8211; particularly one in a provincial centre that has just one PHO &#8211; and quite a cost for anyone on NZ Super.</p>
<p>Their charge for a computer generated REPEAT prescription is $12.50.   NO consultation, just bring up the data, print off the scrip,  squiggle an initial and bill $12.50.    </p>
<p>Since one GP rotates the duty each day it is money for jam.   My sources tell me that he/she  does up to 100 scripts per hour if required &#8211;  not bad revenue for an already taxpayer subsidised  activity.</p>
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		<title>By: GTP</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/3_prescription_charges.html#comment-718757</link>
		<dc:creator>GTP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No-one really has a clue as to what prescriptions go unfilled in this country. 

It&#039;s a no brainer we need an ePrescribing / RX exchange system in this country and we might get some decent data on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No-one really has a clue as to what prescriptions go unfilled in this country. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a no brainer we need an ePrescribing / RX exchange system in this country and we might get some decent data on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pollywog (149) Says: 
July 15th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
all very commendable workingman

but what have you done for me and mine lately ?
******************************

Why should he do anything? the poor in the Philippines are a damn sight poorer than in this nation. Having been long term unemployed at one point, and been overseas and seen first hand what being poor truly can be, I suggest that you are essentially full of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pollywog (149) Says:<br />
July 15th, 2010 at 4:28 pm<br />
all very commendable workingman</p>
<p>but what have you done for me and mine lately ?<br />
******************************</p>
<p>Why should he do anything? the poor in the Philippines are a damn sight poorer than in this nation. Having been long term unemployed at one point, and been overseas and seen first hand what being poor truly can be, I suggest that you are essentially full of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/3_prescription_charges.html#comment-718725</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 05:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;they don’t have the brains to think like me.&quot;

If I had brains that think like you have jcuknz  I&#039;d use buckshot to clear my head. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;they don’t have the brains to think like me.&#8221;</p>
<p>If I had brains that think like you have jcuknz  I&#8217;d use buckshot to clear my head. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/3_prescription_charges.html#comment-718720</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheap bus rides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheap bus rides.</p>
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		<title>By: Fletch</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/3_prescription_charges.html#comment-718717</link>
		<dc:creator>Fletch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something else I&#039;ve noticed from being unemployed right now. The &lt;b&gt;Community Services Card&lt;/b&gt; no longer gives you a discount at the doctors surgery unless it&#039;s for emergency services after hours. Not exactly sure what the card is any good for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something else I&#8217;ve noticed from being unemployed right now. The <b>Community Services Card</b> no longer gives you a discount at the doctors surgery unless it&#8217;s for emergency services after hours. Not exactly sure what the card is any good for.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cough medicine, paracetamol, sunscreen and viagra. 

Shit that was some party!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cough medicine, paracetamol, sunscreen and viagra. </p>
<p>Shit that was some party!</p>
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		<title>By: pollywog</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/3_prescription_charges.html#comment-718711</link>
		<dc:creator>pollywog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all very commendable workingman

but what have you done for me and mine lately ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all very commendable workingman</p>
<p>but what have you done for me and mine lately ?</p>
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		<title>By: workingman</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/3_prescription_charges.html#comment-718710</link>
		<dc:creator>workingman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honest John

I volunteer every year for 2 weeks in the Philippines and help build houses for slum dwellers.  So far I have helped build 7 houses, and paid for 3 of them. 

http://www.gk1world.com/

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honest John</p>
<p>I volunteer every year for 2 weeks in the Philippines and help build houses for slum dwellers.  So far I have helped build 7 houses, and paid for 3 of them. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.gk1world.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gk1world.com/</a></p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: pollywog</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/3_prescription_charges.html#comment-718709</link>
		<dc:creator>pollywog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;$3 prescription cost &#039;too much for some&#039; &lt;/b&gt;

suckers for a good headline and bit of right wing spin eh ? 

hahaha...you  dumbass hillbillies crack me up no end.

Theres nothing to suggest its the 3 dollar subsidised prescription poor NZers can&#039;t pay or that it&#039;s exclusively a Pasifikan problem.

but hey don&#039;t let me stop you from popping your blue collars in indignation, as if it&#039;ll hide your red necks

as you were...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>$3 prescription cost &#8216;too much for some&#8217; </b></p>
<p>suckers for a good headline and bit of right wing spin eh ? </p>
<p>hahaha&#8230;you  dumbass hillbillies crack me up no end.</p>
<p>Theres nothing to suggest its the 3 dollar subsidised prescription poor NZers can&#8217;t pay or that it&#8217;s exclusively a Pasifikan problem.</p>
<p>but hey don&#8217;t let me stop you from popping your blue collars in indignation, as if it&#8217;ll hide your red necks</p>
<p>as you were&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Muzza M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muzza M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what really pisses me off, the methadone losers getting their fix every day are exempt the $3 co-payment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what really pisses me off, the methadone losers getting their fix every day are exempt the $3 co-payment.</p>
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		<title>By: big bruv</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/07/3_prescription_charges.html#comment-718702</link>
		<dc:creator>big bruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex

&quot;Anyone who claims they have to leave their children ill because of a $3 part charge is either a wastrel or an idiot.&quot;

You forgot one group, they are either a wastrel, an idiot or a socialist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex</p>
<p>&#8220;Anyone who claims they have to leave their children ill because of a $3 part charge is either a wastrel or an idiot.&#8221;</p>
<p>You forgot one group, they are either a wastrel, an idiot or a socialist.</p>
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		<title>By: big bruv</title>
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		<dc:creator>big bruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;despite being gouged maybe $45 for the doctor&quot;

Gouged $45 by a doctor?, hired a bloody lawyer or a plumber latley?

Typical bloody socialist, why do you have a problem paying for a professional persons time and service?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;despite being gouged maybe $45 for the doctor&#8221;</p>
<p>Gouged $45 by a doctor?, hired a bloody lawyer or a plumber latley?</p>
<p>Typical bloody socialist, why do you have a problem paying for a professional persons time and service?</p>
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		<title>By: pollywog</title>
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		<dc:creator>pollywog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Poorer New Zealanders are ending up in hospital because they cannot afford to pay for medicines prescribed to them

more than six per cent of the 18,000 people surveyed had put off filling a prescription for financial reasons at least once a year

The current charge for prescription drugs that are subsidised by the Government is a flat $3 fee.

Maori and Pacific people are especially hard-hit  &lt;/i&gt;

so let all assume that it&#039;s only poor Pasifikans, inclusive of Maori,  getting one single $3 prescription per year subsidised by the govt that they cant afford to pay.

Then we&#039;ll go off on some bullshit rant about how it&#039;s only Pasifikans who make bad choices and that its total crap they cant afford 3 bucks when they can afford ciggies and KFC and sky tv

and disregard that it might be a poor white family getting a non subsidised prescription weekly or monthly that has missed out on their medication cos they had to re proritise spending towards power food and fuel ?

funny how you dogs come running rabidly to the whistle, frothing at the mouth, as soon as DPF cries foul on a Pasifikan. 

Why is that ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Poorer New Zealanders are ending up in hospital because they cannot afford to pay for medicines prescribed to them</p>
<p>more than six per cent of the 18,000 people surveyed had put off filling a prescription for financial reasons at least once a year</p>
<p>The current charge for prescription drugs that are subsidised by the Government is a flat $3 fee.</p>
<p>Maori and Pacific people are especially hard-hit  </i></p>
<p>so let all assume that it&#8217;s only poor Pasifikans, inclusive of Maori,  getting one single $3 prescription per year subsidised by the govt that they cant afford to pay.</p>
<p>Then we&#8217;ll go off on some bullshit rant about how it&#8217;s only Pasifikans who make bad choices and that its total crap they cant afford 3 bucks when they can afford ciggies and KFC and sky tv</p>
<p>and disregard that it might be a poor white family getting a non subsidised prescription weekly or monthly that has missed out on their medication cos they had to re proritise spending towards power food and fuel ?</p>
<p>funny how you dogs come running rabidly to the whistle, frothing at the mouth, as soon as DPF cries foul on a Pasifikan. </p>
<p>Why is that ?</p>
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