Bethune’s Demands

July 14th, 2010 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

I should stop giving him publicity, but I couldn’t believe his assertion that he was surprised he ended up in Japan, so I made some inquiries. Below is a copy of the demand letter he gave to the skipper of the Japanese boat.

Bethune Demand

First of all you have to love the lunacy of a man who makes a demand for arrest on the basis of un-named “maritime experts”.

Could you imagine what would happen if you boarded a plane and demanded the pilot arrest himself, citing un-named aviation experts.

Now his primary demand was that the Japanese boat transport him to Wellington. As the other captain does not suffer from clinical insanity, obviously that was never going to happen. So look closely at what he then said:

I will refuse to be handed over to any Sea Shepherd vessel. I will also refuse to be handed over to any New Zealand or Australian Coastguard, Customs or Naval vessel.

So this so called “prisoner” was in fact refusing to leave the ship. What a farce. Even if the NZ Government had sent a naval vessel to pick him up, Mad Pete proclaimed he would refuse to leave the ship.

He also gave the Japanese an invoice for his boat, demanding they buy him a new one. An extract from that invoice is:

If we have not received payment by April 1, 2010, we will be proceedingwith a civil action in Japan against your company. We will be seeking punitive damages, in addition to the full replacement cost of the Ady Gil.

Now this is exactly what he should have done. As far as I know, he lied, and there has been no civil suit. If there is a dispute about who was at fault, it should be resolved in court.

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45 Responses to “Bethune’s Demands”

  1. RRM (9,630 comments) says:

    His comments about the hideous deaths of whales are not overstated.

    The rest of the letter is a-LOL-a-minute though. What a dick.

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  2. davidp (3,555 comments) says:

    Would whale meat be classified as a healthy food and exempt from GST if Labour were in government?

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  3. RRM (9,630 comments) says:

    Yes, as would off-topic troll meat.

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  4. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    La la land stuff fron a deranged Greenie. Please stop giving oxygen to this lunatic.

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  5. GPT1 (2,103 comments) says:

    There has been a stunning silence from maritime experts (and I note the MSM seem in no hurry to roll and out) as to who’s fault the collison was. From my view it seemed to me that the Ady Gil, the far more manoeverable vessel, put itself in the way and the claims about obligations to steer well clear seem pretty stupid when the damn ship keeps chasing the whaler.

    Davidp – lol.
    RRM – there are quite a lot of people who are not that keen on whaling and would dearly like the Japanese to stop it. Unfortunately for the cause Bethune is such a complete prat that pointing this out has become more important than the whaling debate.

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  6. david@tokyo (263 comments) says:

    I doubt this letter was actually written by Bethune, it has all the trademarks of your typical BS propaganda from Sea Shepherd and their “Great Leader”, “Captain / Admiral Paul Watson”.

    Making the sort of ridiculous demands in the letter as if living in a make believe fantasy world is the sort of PR stunt that Watson comes up with all the time.

    And to tell a lie or two? That’s nothing. Anything is justified in SS’s rule book, just take a look at the violent methods they adopt.

    Another example is that they claim Japan is illegally killing endangered whales in a “sanctuary”. As if!

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  7. slightlyrighty (2,499 comments) says:

    Do the likes of Bethune and Sea Shepherd realise how much goodwill they are using up here. Many of us, while sympathetic to thier cause, are sick of them and their methods.

    How long before our sympathy to the cause is used up?

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  8. david@tokyo (263 comments) says:

    Watson doesn’t care about your sympathy unless you are nuts enough to give him any money in the first place. He only needs to get the crazy fringe worked up enough to generate funding for his organization, not even a majority of a state.

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  9. WebWrat (516 comments) says:

    As I said yesterday:

    I take it that Buffoon would approve if some whacko from PETA jumped into a Landcruiser and rammed a Frews truck taking a load of lambs to the works.

    If I was crew on his boat, I would string him up by the balls for endangering my life.

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  10. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    Yes of course, it’s the big slow boat’s fault, and the boat that set a world speed circumnavigation record in its previous incarnation couldn’t possibly have got out of the way. Didn’t they also crash into and kill a Guatamalan fisherman in that race?

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  11. Yvette (2,743 comments) says:

    “The Maori Party has kept a low profile over the arrest of anti-whaling campaigner Pete Bethune… until today.
    Maori MP Hone Harawira says Mr Bethune is a hero.
    Returning to New Zealand [...] Mr Bethune on Monday criticised the New Zealand Government for its lack of political support and said he was “disgusted” with the way Foreign Minister Murray McCully had sided with his accusers.
    “New Zealand has become like a fat little lap dog. We should be standing up for ourselves,” he said.
    Prime Minister John Key said Mr Bethune was downright ungrateful for all the support he had received.
    Mr Harawira, in a weekly column, said Mr Bethune had put his freedom and life on the line.
    “He was bloody lucky to get off, but I’m really glad for him and his family, and for the anti-whaling campaign that he did. The man’s a real hero in my book.”

    Mr Harawira said his party had been “a bit quiet” on Japanese whaling. He said Maori had a special relationship with whales; guarded their right to harvest stranded whales and supported rights of indigenous people internationally to exercise their traditional whaling.
    “But Maori have never, we do not, and we never will support the right of Japanese whaling companies to swoop down into our southern oceans to slaughter these gentle children of Tangaroa.”
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10658691

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  12. Nookin (3,174 comments) says:

    Stop picking on Bethune. He is a HERO. I know that because Hone says so.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3917045/Harawira-Bethune-is-a-hero
    (So did MSM but it got outvoted 4,000,000 to 3. )

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  13. kowtow (7,895 comments) says:

    All vessels are meant to keep clear of each other.

    These nutters went down there to harass/disrupt they are at fault.

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  14. RightNow (6,834 comments) says:

    I’m anti-whaling, but even more anti-buffoon.

    [DPF: Same]

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  15. Pete George (23,257 comments) says:

    The intelligence applied to letter writing seems to be similar to the intelligence applied to boat maneuvering.

    I’m anti some whaling and I’m anti all Sea Shepherding.

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  16. david@tokyo (263 comments) says:

    WebWrat, alas the rest of the crew on Bethune’s boat are every bit as crazy and self-righteous as he is. Dunno if it is running in New Zealand, but the Whale Wars season 3 TV show is running in the US now, and this is demonstrated perfectly. These guys are living in their own fantasy world.

    Put it away, funny you mention it but in the Whale Wars season 3 the Ady Gil crew repeatedly say in the early episodes that their boat would be smashed to pieces if it were to get involved in a collision with the Japanese boats, the way Watson usually uses the “Steve Irwin”… and therefore of course they can’t use those tactics.

    Funny despite all their ostensible concerns, recorded on TV cameras beforehand… a collision did actually occur. Geeeee, some coincidence!

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  17. david@tokyo (263 comments) says:

    The letter was addressed to the Japanese captain, but written to the Australian / New Zealand public.

    Interesting that Bethune’s wife gets a mention in the letter…. despite the two having separated as of last year, and Bethune himself being aware of this. Still, roll out the wife and kids… some sympathetic dopes fell for it. (3?)

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  18. ben (2,414 comments) says:

    Bethune believes whaling is wrong, and based his arrest on that belief.

    I believe Bethune is wrong to take the actions he did. On what consistent basis would he resist my arrest of him?

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  19. davidp (3,555 comments) says:

    Hone’s going to implode when a group of Japanese board a Maori-owned fishing vessel and arrest the captain, and he has to confront the fishing-fish-good fishing-whales-bad question.

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  20. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    The Japanese should have saved themselves a lot of effort and just thrown him overboard.

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  21. JiveKitty (869 comments) says:

    When did he write this letter?

    They should’ve just chucked the fucker overboard.

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  22. RKBee (1,344 comments) says:

    People like Bethune that purposely piss into the wind should be left to do so… If anyone intervenes he will only change direction and piss on them..

    So stop it DPF.. you becoming obsessed with the man like main stream m,edia.. and end up all wet like the NZ government.

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  23. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    “Maori MP Hone Harawira says Mr Bethune is a hero”

    must mean Harawira agrees with his letter, hope he remembers this part;…………”To argue its part of your culture does not make it right”

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  24. MT_Tinman (3,043 comments) says:

    # JiveKitty (560) Says:
    July 14th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    When did he write this letter?

    They should’ve just chucked the fucker overboard.

    Damned straight!

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  25. RKBee (1,344 comments) says:

    To Hone everybody is a hero who makes anti government sentiments.
    That makes me a Hero in Hone’s book.

    Good point about did Hone read the part in Bethune letter.. “To argue its part of your culture does not make it right”.. i’m pretty sure Hone refuses to read english.. maybe if someone sent it to him in Maori.

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  26. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    David

    Your blog I know but can we just stop with this fuck wit and hope next time the Captain does the decent thing and goes down with his ship.

    I am in the Rightnow corner over this dork.

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  27. fatman43us (166 comments) says:

    #JiveKitty (560) – right on!

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  28. burt (7,988 comments) says:

    The title “Captain” use to mean something. What sort of bad joke calls himself a captain while playing chicken on the high seas with a vessel a few hundred times bigger and stronger than his own vessel. I sincerely hope this man isn’t also driving on our roads…. I can see it now, parked on a level crossing he will complain that as his vehicle was stationary he had right of way over the train… what a Muppet.

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  29. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    Set whale species quotas that reflect stock levels. Low/endangered = zero harvesting. Plenty = quota applies. Just like fish.

    Oh, and one land-based quota system should be implemented: The species Homo Neandergreenopinkis isn’t endangered but it is a global pest and should be eradicated.

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  30. Zhumao (401 comments) says:

    Is whaling really all that barbaric?

    Whales after all are the ultimate free range animal.

    The protein provided by one whale would otherwise require the deaths of perhaps hundreds of pigs, sheep, or cattle.

    Factory farming pigs is surely more barbaric. The pig is an animal with a high level of sentience – at least on a par with a dog.

    It is raised in hideous conditions with barely enough room to move throughout its life before being slaughtered. Whereas the whale may suffer for less than a minute if the harpoon is well-placed.

    In any case, inherent to any form of hunting is the risk of significant animal suffering. The deer stalker or pig hunter can never guarantee a head shot and thus clean kill. Many animals are gut shot, run off, and take ages to die.

    And bow hunters rarely come away with a quick, clean kill.

    So if we are considering the method of slaughter only, surely if whaling is to be banned, so should most other forms of hunting?

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  31. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    It reads like a ten-year-old’s school project on “How I Would Stop the Bad Men Killing Whales”. It really should be accomplanied by a lumpy papier-mache model of a whale

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  32. david@tokyo (263 comments) says:

    krazykiwi, Zhumao, glad to see other kiwis with a little more openmindedness about this than is the standard (assuming you are both kiwis!).

    krazykiwi, it was very interesting to find the other day that a US IWC representative recently told her government under oath that, “there could be thousands [of Antarctic minke whales] harvested sustainably in the southern ocean.”

    The US is opposed to this whaling though, because (like US fisheries) it would be “commercial”, and also because the IWC (through tyranny of a no longer existing anti-whaling super majority) in 1994 imposed a “sanctuary” over the entire hunting grounds of the southern ocean (very arguably, in contravention of the whaling convention by which the IWC itself was established).

    My view is that most New Zealanders believe “whales are endangered”, and so would not be opposed to sustainable whaling if they had more accurate information, but there isn’t much hope of them getting it.

    Another interesting admission that appeared in the hearing was this one, also from a representative of the US NOAA fisheries oversight organization, an Ambassador Balton:

    “BALTON. Japan does perform scientific research on the whales they take, and probably have the best whale science as a result.”

    LOL! I couldn’t stop laughing when I read that one, given the general view of “scientific whaling” (always in quotes) in New Zealand and elsewhere as being “commercial whaling in disguise”. So poor Japan is damned if they do, but they’d be damned if they didn’t too because they lose their knowledge of whale populations were they to cease their scientific programs.

    The quotes from above can be seen in the documents here, if anyone is interested (I haven’t read it all yet).
    http://www.internationalrelations.house.gov/hearing_notice.asp?id=1177

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  33. Zhumao (401 comments) says:

    “It reads like a ten-year-old’s school project on “How I Would Stop the Bad Men Killing Whales”.

    Hahaha…yeah reminds me of when I was about seven or eight at school. The teacher read aloud the story of the big bad hunters out to get Bambi –we all loved Bambi of course – and hated the heartless, evil hunters.

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  34. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    @david@tokyo – My father’s family arrived in NZ in 1840, my mother’s family in 1852 and 95% of my forebears were born and raised in our country. So yes, I’m very definitely a Kiwi.

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  35. Jibbering Gibbon (200 comments) says:

    I’m confused.

    Bethune had this letter typed up by his on-board PA shortly after the collision did he? Or did he have it made up several weeks before he rammed the fishing vessel?

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  36. Pete George (23,257 comments) says:

    krazykiwi : My father’s family arrived in NZ in 1840, my mother’s family in 1852 and 95% of my forebears were born and raised in our country. So yes, I’m very definitely a Kiwi.

    That’s got that bit sorted out. Now, the obvious question is, have you got the same level of proof that you’re krazy?

    JG – I wondered about that, but he sank his boat (6 Jan) about a month before he boarded the Japanese ship (2 Feb) so had plenty of time to think and type.

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  37. Murray (8,841 comments) says:

    Zhumo, venison…mmmmmm

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  38. Glenn Inwood (1 comment) says:

    Bethune has very minimal support from most Kiwis — unfortunately that’s not reflected by the amount of interest he’s received from the mainstream media, who continually fail to question his actions and challenge him on the lunatic statements he makes. The demand note was written by Paul Watson, who encouraged Bethune to board the Shonan Maru No.2. Watson and Bethune have no interest in telling the truth or Bethune is completely brainwashed by Watson. Bethune got off lightly and should thank the Government of Japan and its judicial system for letting him go, even though he cannot re-enter Japan for the next five years because he was deported.

    I stand by my public comments: Sea Shepherd is a criminal organisation and Bethune is a criminal, albeit a dumb one. Japan’s whaling, whether you agree with it or not, is purely legal in international law under Article 8 of the International Convention for the Regulation of Whaling. The last agreed abundance figure for minke whales in the Southern Ocean was in 1990 and set at 760,000 with a 95 percent confidence interval, and breeding at 10 percent a year.

    That abundance figure is being reviewed but the IWC Scientific Committee has not agreed a population despite a seven-year discussion. Could it be that a new population figure would undermine the Australian and New Zealand whaling policy? Japan’s catch in the Southern Ocean has absolutely no adverse affect on the Southern Hemisphere population of minke whales. There is no up-to-date fin whale abdundance estimate for the Southern Ocean but Japan is obtaining some data in relation to that species.

    So, in relation to Bethune, the real question is: will Maritime NZ allow him to keep a masters certificate? As a sea-faring nation, our Government needs to uphold its obligations to ensure lunatics like Bethune are kept away from captaining a vessel.

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  39. LiberalismIsASin (288 comments) says:

    Hone Hawrawira supported rights of indigenous people internationally to exercise their traditional whaling.

    Including the japanese?

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  40. starbird (1 comment) says:

    You people have no clue what you’re talking about. You just like to prognosticate and no one cares what you say. You are in fact so stupid that you haven’t even watched the video of the Shonan Maru going in one direction and then suddenly turning into the direction of the Ady Gil and attempting to murder the crew and crush the boat. There is no question who is at fault, one can easily see the japs are at fault. It’s not up for discussion. The reason Aus. and Nz won’t say anything is because they are deathly cowards and afraid of Japan.

    THERE IS NO REASON TO KILL A WHALE…

    What have you done to save a whale…

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  41. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    “What have you done to save a whale…”

    well I usually move it to the side of my plate and save it ill last

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  42. Johnboy (15,537 comments) says:

    I have never prognosticated in my life starbird! Masturbated yes, do it all the time, specially here. :)

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  43. Johnboy (15,537 comments) says:

    LiberalismIsASin: :)

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  44. david@tokyo (263 comments) says:

    starbird,

    “It’s not up for discussion.”

    No point in commenting on this then.

    “THERE IS NO REASON TO KILL A WHALE…”

    Speak for yourself.

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  45. angie stone (53 comments) says:

    @ Starbird…I’m inviting you over for dinner at my place. Whale meat will definitely be on the menu.

    Soon the Hindus(who believe cows are sacred) will start protesting the mass murder of cows each day that make it to our dinner plates…

    What a carry on.

    As for Pete Bafoon, I reckon he should take more trips to the Sthern Ocean. Who knows, he may just get lost at sea.

    http://www.angel-charlene.com

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