The race for President

July 15th, 2010 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

The National Party Conference is on this weekend. I am looking forward to it, and will be up in Auckland from this afternoon.

As well as the main conference, the also have their annual conference, including their elections – and they have three candidates standing for the presidency. So the board elections won’t be the only election of interest.

The Young Nats are doing something very laudable – actually having a debate and question and answer session with the three candidates. This will allow YN delegates to hear them in action, before voting. The main party could consider the merits of doing something similar for board elections in future – maybe have a forum on the Friday evening.

The Young Nats debate starts at 10.15 am on Saturday, and I have the job of moderator, as a neutral party. I’ve been having fun working on some of the questions.

The three candidates are campaigning hard also. One has a campaign website, another a Facebook page, and a third has a campaign ad on You Tube which I predict will be used to embarrass him for many years to come.

Great to see a healthy contest for the job, and am looking forward to the debate on Saturday. Any conference attendee can attend the debate, but questions will be restricted to Young Nationals.

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28 Responses to “The race for President”

  1. Captain Neurotic (203 comments) says:

    One of the reasons I abstained from joining the YN at Uni – they all come across as over zealous twats who need to get laid more…

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  2. Fale Andrew Lesa (473 comments) says:

    hahahaha I love the connection between politics and casual sex. Personally, my money is all on Dan.

    :D

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  3. RRM (9,924 comments) says:

    Is it as good as arguments that are too powerful to be discussed?

    (Sorry I cbf watching whole thing, I’m not a Young Nat… )

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  4. Johnboy (16,590 comments) says:

    Did he hire Neil (ask for me) Martin as his media trainer? :)

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  5. Nefarious (533 comments) says:

    At what point does a young nat reach puberty and become a “grown up” nat?

    [DPF: I'll let you know once I get there!]

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  6. MIKMS (167 comments) says:

    @Captain Neutoric
    I feel sorry for those YN Hopefully that was from a few years ago when the will of Ms Bartlett still held considerable sway over many Parents of YN
    @Nefarious

    When they get into the local board of the main party is when I would consider that change to have occurred…or when they pay the membership fee..

    Both events regardless look to be very interesting, the YN candidates for allof the roles have been campaigning fairly heavily so I think we will have some good things to see there on saturday

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  7. Fale Andrew Lesa (473 comments) says:

    Nefarious, most political youth sectors restrict their member’s to 25 years of age (the official UN Youth Age). This is seldom enforced however, it is now common to find ‘mature activists’ who are 30 with direct access to the youth sector and it’s function.

    I think you will find that all student’s have access to apply for the youth sector of most NZ political parties.

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  8. Brian Harmer (687 comments) says:

    David, how long can a person be a young Nat for anyway? :-)

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  9. MIKMS (167 comments) says:

    until they are 30 as a maximum for execs is the general rule in my area, we kicked a 32 yr old a year or two ago who kept showing up and wasn’t anything more

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  10. Manolo (13,780 comments) says:

    The name Young National is really an oxymoron.

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  11. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    At what point does a young nat reach puberty and become a “grown up” nat?

    David, how long can a person be a young Nat for anyway? :-)

    Answer; Nick Smith

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  12. Captain Neurotic (203 comments) says:

    MIKMS – I still know many YN who fit into that category don’t worry though the AOC dudes make you guys look like rockstars

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  13. Stephen Franks (54 comments) says:

    There is sad note in this for those who could watch to the end. The hurried little tag – “I approve this message” right at the end. Nice to know he is not resiling from his words in the micro seconds from utterance to close-down.

    He probably thought it was a legal necessity. There is no hint of spoof in the clip. Probably it was picked it up from the mandatory requirements for election propaganda in elections governed by the Electoral Act (or the Local Elections legislation, or the Broadcasting Act). His election should be governed only by the rules of the unincorporated National Party (or perhaps the Young Nats if they are separately incorporated?).

    But how sad to live in a country where such nonsense is swallowed and regurgitated without irony by young people we must assume to be politically aware. We need from young people rage against stupidity. We need irreverence. If he had to kick for touch for lack of time to work out if incomprehensible election law it would have been comforting to see a hint of parody in that last phrase.

    If only he’d been willing to rage at the stupid intrusions of freedom of speech larded throughout our electoral law.

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  14. shoreboy57 (140 comments) says:

    So DPF – what about the real election? Peter Forhesajollygoodfellow versus the Regional Chairs?

    [DPF: There are four good candidates for three spots, so one of them will not make it]

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  15. theodoresteel (91 comments) says:

    @Stephen Franks
    I picked up a hint of parody at the end there. Actually, the whole clip is a little bit tongue-in-cheek in my opinion.

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  16. alli (5 comments) says:

    @stephen franks – i think not, nice try at spin though.

    The whole thing had overtures of parody, though it wasn’t until the music came on that I realised it. All power to him

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  17. Jman (84 comments) says:

    That video is downright embarrassing. From the use of the music from “The Pacific” to the absolute inanity of his utterings. It would make a great parody if only there was something in there that let us know it really was parody. Since there isn’t I can only assume that he is being completely serious.

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  18. RRM (9,924 comments) says:

    We need from young people rage against stupidity. We need irreverence.

    LOL at the Big Nats’ outcast offering such worldly advice to the Little Nats. Cause tooling around Kelburn in a lowered VW with National all over it so fully impressed the yoof/student vote around Wellington Central in Nov’08 huh?

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  19. GPT1 (2,122 comments) says:

    [DPF: There are four good candidates for three spots, so one of them will not make it]

    DPF – have you got my fence? I swear I had one around my backyard until just recently but it seems someone has taken it to sit on! :)

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  20. shoreboy57 (140 comments) says:

    DPF: There are four good candidates for three spots, so one of them will not make it]

    I thought this was blog with an opinion (not necessarily like Whale, but an opinion nontheless). Just because some members of caucus say don’t rock the boat doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have a view Have you read your conference book for Saturday? me neither since it seems to have been overlooked this year.

    Vote Bridge, Towers and Plimmer

    [DPF: I help with the vote count, as I designed the counting program the party uses. For that reason (plus some others) I don't express public views on the desired outcome, as that can undermine confidence.

    Also I do regard all candidates as loyal members, who are wanting to contribute to National's success. They may all have different skills, but they are all wanting to help National win the election]

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  21. shoreboy57 (140 comments) says:

    DPF: I help with the vote count, as I designed the counting program the party uses. For that reason (plus some others) I don’t express public views on the desired outcome, as that can undermine confidence.

    There had to be a good reason – faith restored

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  22. acupoftruth (1 comment) says:

    @ Stephen Franks – Well, we all know which candidate seeking the Young Nats Presidency works in your office.

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  23. francis (712 comments) says:

    hey! Who’s that playing the part of Dan? Pretty good imitation ;-)

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  24. Stephen Franks (54 comments) says:

    Daniel has confirmed that elements of the address are indeed parody, alluding to US style election advertising. With the portentous “War in the Pacific” music it falls into place, and the final tag becomes a reassuring self awareness rather than a worrying acceptance of the status quo.

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  25. glubbster (344 comments) says:

    Pity I cant be there, it will be an entertaining and enjoyable YN conference no doubt.
    As for the board selections, Plimmer is likely to miss out. Why? Well just look at the numbers, SI usually stick together, Northern the same which leaves smaller populated LNI and CNI always struggling to get their candidates on the Board.

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  26. glubbster (344 comments) says:

    The Vid was a good parody by the way, but in all seriousness the YN name needs to be changed..not sure to what..but something fresh and new.

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  27. Dobbie (36 comments) says:

    Are you sure this is a parody? If so, why doesn’t a Japanese soldier leap into shot at the end of the video and knock his head off?

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