An NZEI Survey

August 17th, 2010 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

I’ve been forwarded on the survey results from an poll of parents, which they claim shows huge opposition to the budget decision to only fund 80% of staff positions in ECE centres to be fully qualified teachers. In other words, that 1 in 5 can be helpers.

Sadly the NZEI never asked people the question – should 100% or 80% of staff be required to be fully qualified. That would have got some useful data. First of all they start with a wee typo:

The Government has cut funding to Centres with the most qualified staff. Let us know what you think and we’ll pass your views on to the Prime Ministrer. Thank You!

Hey I know I do may typos also. However I am not an education union protesting about an education issue, in a formal survey.

Question 1 – Do you believe your child should have qualified early childhood education teachers?
Question 2 – Do you agree that all children should have qualified early childhood education teachers?
Question 3 – Do you agree that parents should pay more for early childhood education than they do at present?
Question 4 – Do you agree that quality early childhood education is an investment in New Zealand’s future?

Who is going to answer no to any of those questions? They are so leading that they are useless.

Why not just ask them directly their views on 80% qualified vs 100% qualified? Because that may not get them the right result.

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18 Responses to “An NZEI Survey”

  1. freedom101 (439 comments) says:

    This sort of union questionnaire should be encouraged. It simply means that we can completely ignore all their surveys.

    It’s rather like asking “Who wants to die” and then reporting the results as proof the public believes the health system to be underfunded!

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  2. Grant Michael McKenna (1,152 comments) says:

    Question three may well get many ‘no’ votes.

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  3. Pete George (21,826 comments) says:

    Hey I know I do may typos also.

    :)

    Question 4 – Do you agree that quality early childhood education is an investment in New Zealand’s future?

    The PM should check out what his science adviser thinks about this.

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  4. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Question 5 – Do you agree that Anne Tolley eats babies ?

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  5. peterwn (2,938 comments) says:

    They should get Curia to do the poll next time.

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  6. Bob (443 comments) says:

    The problem with questions like this is there is no room for qualified answers. A strongly worded or one sided question will tend to elicit replies from those with strong views usually in the direction of the question. Even questions with choices have the same effect. They don’t allow for a variety of opinions.

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  7. Chris2 (706 comments) says:

    The release of this survey result coincides wth the announcement that the largest child care company in New Zealand – Kidicorp – is under investigation by the Serious Fraud Office for overstating the qualifications of its staff so it could claim $30 million of Government funding annually.

    It’s been known for years in the industry that child care companies constantly move their qualified staff around different child care branches so as to pretend that the number of qualified staff at a particular center is above 80% so as to attract the maximum level of Government funding.

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  8. Inventory2 (9,791 comments) says:

    Why would anyone expect an NZEI poll to be objective? The teacher unions have always had a militant streak, and a strong bias against National governments. What else would you expect from an organisation which now employs former Greenpeace activist Stephanie Mills as its spindoctor?

    We just count ourselves fortunate on two counts; our ECE service is not affected by the government’s budget proposal, and to the best of my knowledge, none of our teaching staff belongs to NZEI!

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  9. Psycho Milt (1,982 comments) says:

    NZEI and Labour are dishonest in their approach to this. They always frame it as a question of whether child care centres should have qualified or unqualified staff, rather than the actual question of whether the proportion of qualified staff should be 80% or 100%. If NZEI had put a question in there like “Do you think it makes a whole shitload of difference whether 80% or 100% of childcare workers hold some kind of ECE qualification?” the answer most likely wouldn’t be one they’d want to release to the media.

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  10. Chris2 (706 comments) says:

    They also forgot to include this question:

    “Would you prefer your child to be cared for by a 23 year-old woman with a certificate in child-care from Whitireia Polytechnic, or a grandmother who has no certificate, but did successfully raise two kids of her own who themselves went on to be contributing members of society?”

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  11. Inventory2 (9,791 comments) says:

    Or this one Chirs2

    “Do you want the person who changes your child’s nappy or feeds him/her to have an ECE degree or diploma, or would you prefer it if they just loved caring for kids?”

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  12. Lipo (226 comments) says:

    What is the definition of Qualified ????

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  13. ch123 (460 comments) says:

    “which they claim shows huge opposition to the budget decision to only fund 80% of staff positions in ECE centres to be fully qualified teachers”

    I don’t understand how the NZEI can even come to this conclusion given the questions answered, even as loaded as they are. Neither question 1 nor question 2 necessarily draws this conclusion. If they had asked something like “Do you believe all early childhood educators should be qualified” then they could…

    And being the father of two children who have been at daycare centers, I agree with everyone here who points out that qualifications don’t necessarily mean anything. We had a qualified 20 year old at one of the daycares and she was CRAP.

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  14. Chris2 (706 comments) says:

    Inventory2, I’m not sure your question would pass muster. Whilst the grandmother would simply change the nappy without comment and give the child a hug, the ECE-qualified woman would say that changing nappies is not in her job description. Her employer would support her and one of the child’s parent’s would be called and asked to come and collect their soiled child. When the parent arrives 45 minutes later the child will have been left thoroughly humiliated because no one would go near them.

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  15. Inventory2 (9,791 comments) says:

    Quite so Chris – on that basis, you could mount a very good argument that the 80% qualified ratio is justified, if not too high!

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  16. BeaB (1,958 comments) says:

    Have just been to drop off my grand-daughter at her expensive childcare centre. On a rainy morning not one light was turned on and all the adults had their jackets on because it was chilly inside. No-one greeted me or inquired who I was even though I had never been there before.
    A group of rather scruffy staff were variously – feeding a baby, sitting at a wee table with some kind of toy, standing loudly gossiping while kids raced round yelling at each other, chatting with a parent, taking a child to the toilet, putting out painting equipment, marshalling three kids for a walk outside, hanging up jackets.
    So which one needs the university qualification?

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  17. Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left (759 comments) says:

    Yes Chris2, because any woman with an ECE degree is automatically an uppity bitch who doesnt change nappies. It’s one of the questions they ask on the entry form for the degree….. “Will you change nappies rather than letting the child sit in their own poop while they wait for their parent to come change them”. Anyone who answers yes doesnt get in.

    Seriously, what planet are you on???

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  18. ch123 (460 comments) says:

    Yeah I had to laugh at Chris2′s idea that nappy changing *wouldn’t* be in the job description…

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