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  1. gazzmaniac (1,128) Says:

    The first dog in space was called Laika and was from Russia.

  2. Manolo (6,100) Says:

    Found this at Imperator Fish. Excellent piss-taking.

    Rugby superstar Sonny-Bill Williams is set to make his debut for Canterbury next week.

    Canterbury coach Colin Slade said the niggling injury that has kept the exciting player on the sidelines for so long has almost healed.

    “Last week he wasn’t there, but this week he’s ninety-five per cent fit. “But we decided not to risk him. We just want to give him another week.”

    Williams was recruited by the Canterbury team twenty-one years ago, but has been sidelined by a succession of injuries and illnesses since that time. He told reporters he was “fizzing” and ready to put on the red and black jersey for the first time. But he was also prepared to be patient.

    “I know my time will come,” Williams said.

    But time is running out for the 46 year old sensation. Williams has made no secret of the fact that his main goal in returning to New Zealand two decades ago was to be an All Black. However, the All Black selectors are due to name their team to tour the Northern Hemisphere next month, and may be reluctant to pick Williams on reputation alone.

    All Blacks coach Aaron Cruden has spoken in the past about his admiration for Williams’ strength and power as a rugby league player.

    On the other hand, Cruden will be mindful of Williams’ history of injuries and illnesses. Williams’ most recent attack of gout will be weighing heavily on the coach’s mind. But Williams dismisses concerns that he is fragile, injury-prone, slow, old and overweight.

    “I’ve just got to stay focused on the goal ahead. It may take me another twenty years, but if that’s what it takes to play for the All Blacks, then so be it.

    “And if they don’t want me I’ve got an offer to play for England.”

  3. Don the Kiwi (679) Says:

    Black Caps fell in a heap against India.

  4. pdm (837) Says:

    Don the Kiwi – it was worse than that – it was humiliation especially for the top 6 so called batsmen. Disgraceful but typical of NZ Cricket.

  5. JiveKitty (869) Says:

    Minimum pricing with regard to alcohol: http://offsettingbehaviour.blogspot.com/2010/08/minimum-pricing.html

    Hopefully tvb and others advocating such a policy will read it. Unlikely, I know. I’m not sure they’d like evidence getting in the way of their uninformed and stupid opinions. I suppose if they did read it, they’d make excuses or there’d be claims that “those results wouldn’t happen if the NZ government implemented such a policy”.

  6. stephen (4,058) Says:

    Bang on there Manolo though if he doesn’t make the World Cup squad it just sounds like he’ll bugger off somewhere else. Coming to NZ only one year before the WC is nuts, just nuts.

  7. Brian Smaller (3,407) Says:

    Manolo – thanks for that find. That made me laugh out loud.

  8. tristanb (762) Says:

    I’m sure I won’t be the only one on this blog rejoicing that Bruce Allan Jones has died:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/4061983/Burglar-who-died-in-pharmacy-just-out-of-jail

    It’s just a pity he didn’t have his heart attack before he broke into the chemist’s, and put an innocent man through a lot of unnecessary stress. And it’s a bigger pity that he wasn’t still in jail for drugged-driving causing death in 2002, or the constant string of burglaries he’d been committing his whole life.

  9. TripeWryter (670) Says:

    Wonderful piss-take you found there, Manolo.

    I thought I was the only person in New Zealand who was distinctly underwhelmed by Mr Williams and his switch to rugby.

    He seems to have entranced and fixated the sports hacks. Why?

  10. MikeNZ (3,234) Says:

    Good News Middle East peace is nigh!
    http://af.reuters.com/article/egyptNews/idAFLDE67F0VX20100819?sp=true

    The failure of some wealthy Arab states to pay up is frustrating Western governments, which are big contributors to the Palestinian territories, and leaving officials in the West Bank with a budget headache.
    Some Palestinian officials speculate Arab states might be withholding the cash to try to persuade the Palestinian factions Fatah, which controls the West Bank, and Hamas, which controls Gaza, towards reconciliation.

    Palestinian Finance Ministry figures seen by Reuters showed the PA had received $583.5 million in budget support so far in 2010. Only 22 percent came from Arab donors, the rest coming from international donors including the EU and United States.

    Good now the buggers will stop living of the tits of others and have to get on with their neighbors in order to build an economy.

    “Europe and the United States have fully met our commitments, but certain Arab states are not doing likewise, which is a problem,” a senior diplomat in a Western capital told Reuters. When asked why this might be, he said: “Ask them.”

    That Europe and the US know full well that the PA and Hamas are the same shows their hypocrisy.

  11. Scott (913) Says:

    Agree with much of the above. What rankles me about Sonny Bill Williams is that he walked out on his teammates and his club while playing rugby league. After a period of time in France he is now “committed” to rugby union and the prospect of playing for Canterbury and the All Blacks.

    What might stop him from walking out on Canterbury at some stage? What about the prospect of him walking out on the All Blacks?

    I might be a bit of an old-fashioned guy but I think notions of loyalty still have a place even in professional sport. Sonny Bill has never apologised for what he did to Canterbury Bankstown. Who can say that he will be more loyal to the Canterbury Crusaders?

  12. JiveKitty (869) Says:

    No, you’re right TrypeWryter. He didn’t exactly set the world alight with scintillating play in Europe. I don’t know why they pay so much attention to him. He’s shown nothing that indicates he’s of the standard required to be a top international player. He should’ve stuck with league but I guess his seeming ADD (what will it be next, “I always dreamed of being the best tennis player in the world”?) in combination with a distinct lack of loyalty, desire for instant gratification and inability to do the hard graft and stick with something put paid to that.

  13. mikeysmokes (269) Says:

    Word is that SBW had a niggling injury that prevented him turning out against Tasman.
    Wonder how he was able to ski with that injury?

  14. Scott (913) Says:

    This Headline I’ve just noticed in today’s paper –
    “Injured Sonny Bill’s skiing trip irks Canterbury bosses”

    Is this a warning for the future?

  15. Rich Prick (1,009) Says:

    Now that we have been paying climate tax, has Global Warming reduced or stopped?

  16. TripeWryter (670) Says:

    Well said, Scott and JK.

    If he walks into the All Blacks without putting in the hard yards (sports cliche, sorry) and without showing the loyalty and dedication that you expect from young New Zealand men who aspire to be All Blacks, that will be a travesty.

    It won’t be fair to Conrad Smith and Ma’a Nonu, or any other All Blacks back, who have put in the effort. Smith and Nonu are the best midfield pairing in the world.

  17. stephen (4,058) Says:

    No, you’re right TrypeWryter. He didn’t exactly set the world alight with scintillating play in Europe.

    To be fair apparently Toulon were a pretty boring team who didn’t find the use of the ‘backs’ too appealing.

  18. dime (3,925) Says:

    Manolo – thats fuckin funny dude.

    But time is running out for the 46 year old sensation HAHAHAHA

  19. Luc Hansen (3,377) Says:

    $583 million is hardly petty cash for Europe and the US.

    This is where their (our) true priorities lie: http://costofwar.com/

  20. RightNow (3,913) Says:

    Shame the letter about school hours being extended was fake: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/4063280/School-apologises-for-fake-letter . If only schools ran 8.30 to 5.00 life would be so much easier for working parents.

    A strange view from one parent: “because of a parent’s inability to think outside the box my son is now extremely worried that his teachers are in trouble”. She seems quite supportive of a ploy to cause unnecessary worry to primary school children.
    The letter was outright forgery of Tolley’s signature, and had an obvious intent to deceive. The teacher(s) responsible should be in trouble, and through no fault of anyone except themselves.

    In other news I see Jevan Goulter (from under-age drinking with Labour MP’s fame) has served defamation papers on Michael Laws, and in doing so there was some ‘manhandling’ after which he has also claimed assault by Laws. I’m curious about the alleged defamation, will have to search out what Laws said. For now I’m inclined to believe whatever Laws said was based in fact, so can’t see this being a winner for Jevan. Not that I see it doing much good for Laws either.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4061971/Candidate-lays-assault-complaint-against-Laws

  21. wreck1080 (2,006) Says:

    He he, I see Tiger Woods wife says she has been through hell.

    If hell means dumping a cheating spouse and getting 700 million bucks then woohoo!!

  22. Inventory2 (7,220) Says:

    Jevan Goulter is a solid-gold, 100% nut-bar. He has ridden into Wanganui, aligned himself with others who are of similar ilk (if not the same sexuality) and started throwing shit around. Unfortunately for Jevan, he has misjudged the strength of the breezes which waft in off the Tasman each day, and most of the shit has ended up on him.

    Oh dear; how sad; never mind.

  23. RightNow (3,913) Says:

    IV2 – don’t suppose you have a link or any info on what Laws alleged defamation was?

  24. Inventory2 (7,220) Says:

    It was all around the stuff that happened a couple of weeks ago – the threat to take private e-mails, txts etc to the media. Goulter has no show of proving that he was defamed, because from all the goss I’ve heard, he did have the information, and he did contact the media.

  25. RightNow (3,913) Says:

    Oh wait, found it: (via download sourced here http://aaronandandy.com/index.php/jevan-to-sue-michael-laws/)

    Seems it is all about comments made on Facebook.

    “11. On 1 August 2007 at 1.07 p.m. the Defendant posted the following item on the Plaintiff’s Wall;

    Rent Boy
    Take the pills your doctor prescribed. Go Away you pathetic little queen – Wanganui deserves better than a gay beneficiary who doesn’t live here, has a history of making up stories and false claims, is clearly psychotic and whose family has dosowned (sic) him.
    And this low level harassment is typical, pathetic and demonstrates your unsuitability for any serious consideration by anyone.”

    I’m backing Laws for the win.

  26. krazykiwi (7,395) Says:

    European Union.. busy sucking the lifeblood out of its member economies. World government socialists.

    Brussels to defy Cameron’s call for EU spending cuts

    The European Union is defying David Cameron’s call for cuts to budgets in Brussels by planning an eight per cent increase in spending over the next three years.

    At a time of deep cuts to the British public sector, documents, seen by The Daily Telegraph, disclose controversial plans to snub the Prime Minister by raising the EU’s budget by more than £8.8 billion to £125 billion in 2013, a 7.6 per cent rise on this year’s spending levels. The increase will mean that the British contribution to the EU rises to £10.3 billion over the next three years.

    Particularly controversial is a planned increase in spending on administration of 15 per cent, taking the cost up to £3.2 billion, even as austerity programmes urged on national governments by the EU hit front-line public services, Included in the spending forecast are estimated pay rises worth 5.3 per cent to EU officials by the end of 2011 under automated wage adjustments linked to a special Brussels living cost index and the salaries of senior national officials.

  27. krazykiwi (7,395) Says:

    Isn’t the earth resilient?

    Microbe eating spilled oil in Gulf of Mexico

    A newly discovered species of microbe is breaking down oil from the BP spill in the Gulf of Mexico much faster than scientists thought possible.

    The leaking well was plugged on July 15 and two weeks later government scientists said that half of the oil had gone. The new microbe was found to be breaking down oil about twice as fast as expected.

    Researchers discovered the new oil-eating microbe while studying the underwater dispersion of millions of gallons which escaped after the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in April. It thrives in cold water in the deep sea where temperatures are around 5C (41F) and scientists said it may have adapted over time, through a process of natural selection, due to periodic leaks and natural seeps of oil in the Gulf.

  28. k.jones (210) Says:

    Inventory – “Jevan Goulter is a solid-gold, 100% nut-bar” –

    That may be true but there is of course a much stronger undercurrent here – both Laws and Goulter were furious about yesterdays Verve Cliquot ban. Laws was pushing hard for an end, and Goulter was having none of it. One thing led to another, Goulter split Law’s NV Le Brun, and it kicked off just like that.

  29. MT_Tinman (1,666) Says:

    For anyone interested in the thoughts of a Cantabrian on the joke that is the SBW saga

    http://sportsfreak.co.nz/forum/forum-posts.asp?TID=3893&PN=1&TPN=6

    As for the cricket the entire tournament has seen one side suffer a batting collapse.

    Were it played in any other part of the globe questions about the quality of the track would be asked.

  30. dime (3,925) Says:

    luc – the numbers look shocking! then ya break it down.. $3500 per person. not bad for years of solid entertainment PLUS the added bonus of fucking up the middle east even more :)

    keep em fighting i say. till the oil runs out. then just nuke the joint.

  31. Inventory2 (7,220) Says:

    @ MT_Tinman – quite so; didn’t the Black Caps roll the Indians for 88 in the first match, and didn’t the Lankans roll India for 103? It puts the Black Caps’ score into a little bit of context, disappointing though it was.

    Can’t criticise sub-continent conditions though, can we ;-)

  32. Bob (326) Says:

    Now that we know the burglar confronted by pharmacist Grant Gillard was a total lowlife who preyed on society I think Gillard deserves a medal for helpng him out of this life. I hope it happens to a few more of society’s scum.

    The police have to look into it to do their job but I bet they are quietly congratulating him.

  33. Inventory2 (7,220) Says:

    Thoughts on the Laws/Goulter issue:

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2010/08/leave-families-out-of-it.html

    Let’s not forget; Goulter was the chap who reckoned he’d seen Helen Clark so drunk that she had to be escorted home, and reckoned that he’d seen Michael Cullen smoking dope at a LP conference. Methinks he might have a credibility problem!

  34. thedavincimode (2,769) Says:

    So does everone commenting on that link from RightNow. Hilarious – thanks.

  35. OTGO (254) Says:

    Just back to the SBW subject for a minute – have you noticed how well Nonu and Smith are playing right now? Is that a coincidence do you think?

  36. JiveKitty (869) Says:

    OTGO: Incredibly weak correlation if any given the confounding factors, particularly as despite the hype Sonny Bill hasn’t done anything so far. Some confounding factors are the fitness of Nonu and Smith of late – uninjured so able to continue to better work in concert, Nonu’s work on his passing game over the past year, the All Blacks good form in the Tri-Nations – it’s harder to look good in a team that’s playing poorly, that there are other decent centres competing for the positions (not Sonny Bill, by the way – he’s all hype, no substance at the moment). So is how well they’re playing a coincidence? No, it’s a combination of factors pretty unrelated to Sonny Bill.

  37. krazykiwi (7,395) Says:

    Just days after James Cameron withdraws* from a debate about Global Warming, the alarmists lose another Oxford Union debate. Excellent stuff!

    *Cameron’s spokesperson: ”Morano is not at Cameron’s level to debate, and that’s why it didn’t happen. Cameron should be debating someone who is similar to his stature in our society”

  38. krazykiwi (7,395) Says:

    Ooooo look. Alistair Woodward, a Kiwi alarmist-cum-professor has made the big time.. and now has Lead Author status for the Health section of forthcoming IPCC AR5 ‘report’.
    Extract:

    Although the climate bible is supposed to provide the world with a dispassionate account of what the scientific literature contains, its authors often seem to be activists first and scholars second.

    Woodward is a prime example. His online academic bio page lists ten 2009 publications of which he is the author or co-author. Fully half of these deal with climate change, and the three published in The New Zealand Medical Journal are especially revealing.

    The first, about carbon pricing, appeared in February 2009. Its final three paragraphs amount to a political rallying cry. Health professionals, it says, should advocate “action on climate change.” They should share their views with a committee examining New Zealand’s proposed emissions trading scheme. And they should “join in action with other health professionals globally in preparation for the next United Nations climate change conference in Copenhagen.” (Regarding this last point, readers are advised to contact the authors for further information.)

    Eight months later Woodward’s name was second on a paper written by 26 individuals – most of whom work in the field of public health (aka the activist wing of the medical establishment). That paper says New Zealand “should at least halve its greenhouse gas emissions by 2020″ and warns that this target “may be too lenient” since “reducing the risk of catastrophic climate change may require deeper cuts” [bold added].

  39. Inventory2 (7,220) Says:

    Well said JiveKitty. As regards Nonu, he is one player who seems to respond very, very well to Graham Henry’s coaching methods. A couple of years has matured Nonu to the point where he is now one of the best players in his position in world rugby; his form this international season has been top-class, and the stupid penalties and defensive walk-abouts that have palgued his career seem (touch wood) to be a thing of the past.

  40. RightNow (3,913) Says:

    Haha James Cameron: http://s1039.photobucket.com/albums/a477/kulaki/Cartoons/JamesCameronatHighNoon.jpg

  41. RightNow (3,913) Says:

    Rest in peace Lucas, and may closure be better for the family than not knowing.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4064925/Lucas-Wards-body-found

  42. MikeNZ (3,234) Says:

    I’m glad his body has been found but sad a little one is dead.
    thoughts go to all who were in his life.

  43. TripeWryter (670) Says:

    Ma’a Nonu plays his best when he’s got Conrad Smith next to him.

    Smith took him under his skinny white boy’s wing, gave him some pointers (where he was right and wrong), gave him confidence — and crucially, Nonu clearly trusts him.

    Sonny Boy might be a big boy, but Smith has what Williams appears to lack — brains.

  44. MyNameIsJack (2,415) Says:

    The breathtaking hypocrisy of those who would follow in Jesus’ footsteps.

    MikeNZ (2,612) Says:

    August 26th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
    I’m glad his body has been found but sad a little one is dead.
    thoughts go to all who were in his life.

    and this gloating over another death

    MikeNZ (2,612) Says:

    August 26th, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    As it is that youth will never tamper/deface another’s property.
    His family will suffer every brithday, christmas/easter and other family members celebrations, (as he won’t be there to share with them) for years to come.
    Why was he tagging, what sort of home life did he have that he thought that behavior was acceptable.
    and was that really the only thing he was involved in or did he run with mates and do their thing?

  45. Kris K (3,570) Says:

    Re: Lucas Ward – always sad when such a young life is cut short. But at least now the family can get on with their grieving knowing he has been found.
    Thoughts and prayers to all who knew him.

  46. MyNameIsJack (2,415) Says:

    KK, if prayers were worth anything, the kid would have been found alive.

    Admit it, prayer, other than as a feel good measure, is futile. God never answers.

  47. RightNow (3,913) Says:

    I can’t help but think there’s something wrong with your mind MNIJ. WTF are you trying to say (in your 3.46 post)?

  48. Kris K (3,570) Says:

    MyNameIsJack 3:46 pm,

    You really are a hate filled bigot aren’t you, MNIJ (aka Borker et al) ?
    Without being there how do you even know what transpired?
    If I had to put money on it the tagger was likely a little out of control shit who had no respect for others, and while he might not have deserved to die, who’s to say it wasn’t a case of “It’s him or it’s me”, and Emory was acting in self defence?

    Crawl back to your swamp.

  49. MyNameIsJack (2,415) Says:

    Kris, I don’t have to be there to know what happened. We had a court case, remember? in that the prosecution and defence advanced their evidence, and on that evidence, Emery was convicted. The court, including a jury of Emery’s peers, decided it was NOT a case of “him o”r me”. In fact, Emery had already made that decision when he went back in to his house, took a knife, chased down another human and killed him.

    Fuck off to the same swamp of hypocrites inhabited by all you holier than thou Jesus biggots.

  50. Kris K (3,570) Says:

    MyNameIsJack 4:01 pm,

    KK, if prayers were worth anything, the kid would have been found alive.

    Admit it, prayer, other than as a feel good measure, is futile. God never answers.

    You have to know Him for Him to hear your prayers – and even then, sometimes the answer is ‘No’.
    God isn’t a genie in a magic lamp who always grants your wishes.

  51. Inventory2 (7,220) Says:

    Kris – you’re forgetting that MNIJ/billyborker etc etc used to have a faith, but somewhere along the line got hurt by a Christian which poisoned his thought processes. He actually knows deep down that God answers prayers…

  52. MyNameIsJack (2,415) Says:

    yes, well, I already knew Jesus was a liar, but thanks for agreeing with me.

    1.John 14:14
    You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

    John 16:23
    In that day you will no longer ask me anything. I tell you the truth, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.

    John 16:24
    Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.

    Nothing at all there about the answer being no.

  53. Kris K (3,570) Says:

    MyNameIsJack 4:08 pm,

    I’m glad you have so much faith in the justice system we have in this country – sadly, I do not share your faith.
    I reckon the cops had Emory lined up long before sentence was passed.

  54. MyNameIsJack (2,415) Says:

    Inventory2 (4,959) Says:

    August 26th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
    Kris – you’re forgetting that MNIJ/billyborker etc etc used to have a faith, but somewhere along the line got hurt by a Christian which poisoned his thought processes. He actually knows deep down that God answers prayers…

    I have NO idea where you got that from.

    God does not answer prayer, the studies have been done, the evidence is in. Even at the holiest of holies, Lourdes, prayer goes unanswered. God does not answer prayers.

  55. Inventory2 (7,220) Says:

    He’s answered a few of mine :-)

  56. roger rabbit (45) Says:

    Black Caps fell in a heap against India.
    THE SLACK CAPS FAIL AGAIN, whats new GOD whats new?????? a bunch of loosers
    thank god i dont use this wasters as insperation in my sport of choise. lets focus on our womens rugby team and the top swapping after a win, the womens team are WINNERS

  57. Kris K (3,570) Says:

    MyNameIsJack 4:16 pm,

    yes, well, I already knew Jesus …

    Nothing at all there about the answer being no.

    Actually, God the Father even said “No” to His own Son:

    Luk 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

    The important bit, that even many Christians forget, is the implied “not my will” – we must pray according to God’s will.
    In fact I often finish my prayers with “if it be your will, Father”. God has said “No” to me on many occassions; and with hindsight I saw the wisdom of His answering me with a “No”.

    As you can guess I’m NOT a “name it and claim it” type of Christian.

  58. Manolo (6,100) Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_MBwQhGgA&feature=player_embedded
    Laugh at the expense of the Aussie Greens.
    Hat Tip: Crusader rabbit

  59. MikeNZ (3,234) Says:

    Kris
    I’m hoping the child didn’t suffer and went quickly as the thought that he could have suffered would be horrible for his loved ones. I know how much I love all of my lot and the heartbreak they must all be feeling right now.
    Here’s hoping it was just water and nothing else.

  60. MyNameIsJack (2,415) Says:

    Inventory2 (4,960) Says:

    August 26th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
    He’s answered a few of mine

    How strange then, that I am still alive and posting … looks around for lightning

  61. Kris K (3,570) Says:

    MikeNZ 4:37 pm,

    Kris
    I’m hoping the child didn’t suffer and went quickly as the thought that he could have suffered would be horrible for his loved ones. I know how much I love all of my lot and the heartbreak they must all be feeling right now.
    Here’s hoping it was just water and nothing else.

    Indeed, Mike.
    Reminds me of when I was at primary school, and a family up the road had a bad house fire over the weekend – one of the children died – a boy named Arthur; who was a year younger then me, and a year older than my brother.
    It was strange going to school on Monday and realising you would never see him again. As an ~8 year old he was the first child I knew to die from an accident, and so has left an indelible impression, even now 40 years later.

    It really brought home to me at the time (as an 8 year old) just how fragile and temporary life is.
    None of us know the time nor the hour …

  62. MikeNZ (3,234) Says:

    Yeah well lets get right back on message.
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/dhimmis_are_dummies.html

    I thought I’d posted this earlier, seems the good folks in the USA have a bunch of work to do to avoid slipping to where the UK is right now.
    Bad news for Grumpy.
    I’m reading loads in the UK about people wanting to move to the “antipodes” where they don’t have to deal with Islam !
    What’s your suburb so i can write on their blogs that it’s a nice place and very welcoming :-)

  63. Viking2 (6,118) Says:

    I believe Franchise owners are Wanted.

    A friend of mine just started his own business, manufacturing landmines that look like prayer mats.

    It’s doing really well.

    He says Prophets are going through the roof.

  64. Kris K (3,570) Says:

    Viking2 5:41 pm,

    Put me down for one … nothing like elevated prophets.

  65. WebWrat (508) Says:

    http://ronbosoldier.blogspot.com/2010/08/12000-year-old-pyramids-discovered-in.html

  66. Rufus (371) Says:

    MyNameisJack 3:46

    you’re one callous bastard.

    After reading/hearing the news of Lucas’ death, MikeNZ offers his condolences, in a spirit of empathy.

    You on the other hand use the sad news of the death of a little boy to try and score another cheap point in your crusade against Christians?!!!!!!!

    You’re one sick and twisted puppy.

    You’re also not really a great poster-child for your point of view.

    Grow up. Get over yourself.

  67. MyNameIsJack (2,415) Says:

    Rufus, here’s a dollar – buy a fucking clue.

    I was contrasting the SuperXian MikeNZ’s attitudes to two deaths, both unfortunate, both leaving grieving rellies, and yet MikeNZ’s SuperXian compassion has him gloat over the death of one but not the other.

    I may well be a callous bastard, but at the least i am consistent.

  68. Manolo (6,100) Says:

    More piss-taking. This time on the Messiah: http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2010/08/25/obamas-depleting-lobster-supply/

  69. Rufus (371) Says:

    MyNameisJack 6:54

    I know what you tried to do.

    Mike has shown empathy/sympathy for the little guy and his family/friends.

    So what if you don’t think he’s being consistent with a previous comment.

    Nothing to do with the situation at hand. Nothing to do with Lucas, or his family.

    You’re trying to use this sad occasion to score a cheap point.

    My question stands.

    Why would you do that? What kind of callous, uncaring, nasty, vindictive, utter piece-of-shit would do such a thing?

    Grow up.

  70. dad4justice (7,339) Says:

    “Why would you do that? What kind of callous, uncaring, nasty, vindictive, utter piece-of-shit would do such a thing?”

    This creep is beyond help eh Paul P. I am disgusted I live in the same city as you ####!!!

  71. Inventory2 (7,220) Says:

    MNIJ said

    Inventory2 (4,960) Says:

    August 26th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
    He’s answered a few of mine

    How strange then, that I am still alive and posting … looks around for lightning

    Don’t push your luck ;-)

  72. krazykiwi (7,395) Says:

    God does not answer prayers.

    Maybe not yours

  73. krazykiwi (7,395) Says:

    I can’t help but think there’s something wrong with your mind MNIJ

    As him (MNIJ/BillyBorker/Fugley) about his own father’s passing. It probably started there. The vile hatred for anything Christian is really very sad.

  74. krazykiwi (7,395) Says:

    “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
    – Winston Churchill.

    “You can’t get rid of poverty by giving people money.”
    – P. J. O’Rourke

    “Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.”
    – Thomas Sowell

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
    – C.S. Lewis

  75. Viking2 (6,118) Says:

    OK, so its another plus for ACT.
    Not the Nat softies.

    Seems anything that really makes a difference comes from ACT.

    Revealed: Who really pushed 90 day job law
    By Derek Cheng
    5:30 AM Friday Aug 27, 2010

    The Government’s decision to extend 90-day new-employee trials to all businesses was made after a suggestion from the Act Party, and went against the recommendation of its own Minister of Labour, Kate Wilkinson.

    But Cabinet papers – released to the Herald under the Official Information Act – show Ms Wilkinson wanted the trial to be extended only to companies with up to 50 workers.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10669180

  76. Viking2 (6,118) Says:

    Crafar player linked to new political party
    By Adam Bennett
    5:30 AM Friday Aug 27, 2010

    A fledgling political party associated with the businessman behind a Chinese bid for the Crafar farms plans to field candidates in next year’s election.

    Auckland businessman Paul Young and former Labour Party list candidate Stephen Ching yesterday confirmed the New Citizens Party had lodged an application for registration with the Electoral Commission.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10669157

  77. MikeNZ (3,234) Says:

    KK
    Loved the CS Lewis one.
    Now that’s a wake up call for us moral types to think on regularly so we keep on track but with humanity and love.
    Thanks for that.

    Old Winston is good isn’t he?
    Even if he did give away half of the palestine mandate to the hashmids. :-)

    For all their idiots they are the only ones who can hand hold national
    Vote PARTY VOTE ACT next time.

  78. krazykiwi (7,395) Says:

    From The Economist …

    How to feed the world – Brazil’s agricultural miracle

    The emerging conventional wisdom about world farming is gloomy. There is an alternative

    THE world is planting a vigorous new crop: “agro-pessimism”, or fear that mankind will not be able to feed itself except by wrecking the environment. The current harvest of this variety of whine will be a bumper one. Natural disasters—fire in Russia and flood in Pakistan, which are the world’s fifth- and eighth-largest wheat producers respectively—have added a Biblical colouring to an unfolding fear of famine. By 2050 world grain output will have to rise by half and meat production must double to meet demand. And that cannot easily happen because growth in grain yields is flattening out, there is little extra farmland and renewable water is running short.

    The world has been here before. In 1967 Paul Ehrlich, a Malthusian, wrote that “the battle to feed all of humanity is over… In the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death.” Five years later, in “The Limits to Growth”, the Club of Rome (a group of business people and academics) argued that the world was running out of raw materials and that societies would probably collapse in the 21st century.

    A year after “The Limits to Growth” appeared, however, and at a time when soaring oil prices seemed to confirm the Club of Rome’s worst fears, a country which was then a large net food importer decided to change the way it farmed. Driven partly by fear that it would not be able to import enough food, it decided to expand domestic production through scientific research, not subsidies. Instead of trying to protect farmers from international competition—as much of the world still does—it opened up to trade and let inefficient farms go to the wall. This was all the more remarkable because most of the country was then regarded as unfit for agricultural production.

    Yesterday incredible oil-eating microbes. Today the power of better farming to provide the food we need. The resilience of the earth is stronger than the alarmism that would have the majority of us become serfs in a game of global socialist domination.

  79. JiveKitty (869) Says:

    “Instead of trying to protect farmers from international competition—as much of the world still does—it opened up to trade and let inefficient farms go to the wall.”

    I’d like to see the USA do this – gradually to minimise the pain. It’d probably help with their woes a bit.

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