General Debate 29 September 2010

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Luc Hansen

Hurf Durf (2,071) Says:
September 29th, 2010 at 3:21 pm

blah, blah, blah…

Gee, thanks Hurf for thinking of me even when I’m not here. I can assure you the compliment is not returned.

But you need to be in Washington DC on 30 Oct to support Stephen Colbert in his rally “To Keep the Fear Alive!”

Anyone who thinks drone attacks are the answer just replied to a very stupid question. Furthermore, “quality intelligence” is but an oxymoron, as the Iraq war proved.

I’ll tell you this for free: each and every drone attack in Pakistan (which overwhelmingly kills complete innocents) fuels recruitment for the very groups we all want to see disappear. And it makes a mockery of the US constitution, you know, the “inalienable right to life” bullshit.
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September 29, 2010 9:48pm
Luc Hansen

So sad: old and fading from relevancy, John Howard just can’t give up his racism.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/dont-get-confused-about-multiculturalism-john-howard-warns/story-fn59niix-1225931763267
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September 29, 2010 9:53pm
joana

Give the yanks a break..
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September 29, 2010 9:54pm
krazykiwi

evolution is observed fact

Luc, Observation and fact are not the same thing. For example, I observe the sun rising when the fact is the earth is orbiting the sun. I think that comment also addresses your final assertion.

Edit: I’m calling Krazy’s Law on this thread (Luc Hansen, 9:53)
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September 29, 2010 9:57pm
Pete George

“Give the yanks a break..”

Like this:

The U.S. military has been working hard to provide flood assistance, but most of that is invisible to Pakistanis. They read about American drone attacks but not about helicopters bringing food supplies. That lack of recognition upsets U.S. officials, but they haven’t been able to change it.

In flood-ravaged Pakistan, no sign of American aid

I guess they don’t want to announce themselves as targets.

Pakistan is one of the worst danger zones – weak government, Taliban presence, ranging from gratitude to anger at US involvement, nukes, bad relations with neighbours.

But the immediate problem is 20 million people affected by the floods. The water may have subsided, but so has the food, and with damage to flocks and crops (many wiped out) it will be desperate there for at least a season.
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September 29, 2010 9:59pm
Luc Hansen

KK

Study the meaning of the term “observed fact.”

Surely even you can;t be that stupid.

On the other hand…
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September 29, 2010 10:04pm
Redbaiter

Oh gawd- Here’s Hansen calling everyone racist again.

Same old same old. Despicable commie cowards can’t learn any new tricks.

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/09/the_commies_are_right.html#comment-745080
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September 29, 2010 10:07pm
Hurf Durf

But you need to be in Washington DC on 30 Oct to support Stephen Colbert in his rally “To Keep the Fear Alive!”

I’d love the chance to laugh at the few hundred leftard idiots guffawing at some moronic one-trick funnyman who only got where he is thanks to media fellation, but only if you pay for the plane tickets.
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September 29, 2010 10:07pm
Luc Hansen

Pete, there are quite a few substories to the US aid effort. Don’t get me wrong, the US does usually come to the party for this kind of stuff, but $150 mil for flood relief while spending billions in killing exercises does entail a small contradiction, which perhaps does not pass those Pakistani’s by.
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September 29, 2010 10:07pm
Pete George

Another Christine O’Donnell embellishment: She misleadingly claims she studied at Oxford

In another move that will raise further questions about Christine O’Donnell’s embellishment of her education record, she claims she studied at the University of Oxford.

O’Donnell’s LinkedIn bio page lists “University of Oxford” as one of the schools she attended, claiming she studied “Post Modernism in the New Millennium.” But it turns out that was just a course conducted by an institution known as the Phoenix Institute, which merely rented space at Oxford.

By itself, O’Donnell’s Oxford claim might not matter too much. But the larger context is that O’Donnell has already been nabbed fudging her education record not once, but twice. She claimed for several years to have graduated from Fairleigh Dickinson Unversity, but she actually obtained her bachelor’s degree last summer. And in a lawsuit she suggested she was trying for a Master’s degree courses at Princeton — but subsequently acknowledged she hadn’t taken a single Princeton graduate course.

She makes Palin look smart by comparison (apart from the fact that it was her that promoted O’Donnell)
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September 29, 2010 10:14pm
Luc Hansen

Red, I appreciate the effort you put into your insults. I accept them as a great compliment.

But like Hurf, you are largely a fact-free zone and that does become repetitive over time, so do forgive me for just skimming past everything you write. Feel free to do the same for my posts – I really don’t mind, as you are not my target audience.
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September 29, 2010 10:15pm
Hurf Durf

But like Hurf, you are largely a fact-free zone

A supreme compliment coming from someone who specialises in the art of conjecture, emotion and bullshit.

as you are not my target audience.

Considering no one here cares about your Fifth Colum behaviour, have you considered that your target audience may be slightly…small?
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September 29, 2010 10:18pm
Redbaiter

“you are largely a fact-free zone and that does become repetitive over time”

Kind of like racist racist racist??? That’s when you’re not “hunting dissenters down”. Scum.
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September 29, 2010 10:19pm
krazykiwi

Luc, let me try again: If I observe you to be a nasty piece of shit.. would that be a fact, or a theory? Of course it’s not a fact, unless some empirical measurement is applied, blind experiments undertaken etc.

Evolution remains a theory, complete with supporting evidence and scientific gaps. Promoters of evolution need to get comfortable with this status because the shrill claim that it is a conclusively proven fact comes across as a bit desperate. My suspicion is that ‘proven evolution’ is really thinly disguised proxy for a proven non-existence of God.
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September 29, 2010 10:29pm
Redbaiter

Oh look, there’s Commie Pete’s favourite propaganda sheet doing stuff on Christine O’Donnell they won’t do on Barack Obama.

What gutless hypocrites.

Got anything on Obama’s academic record PG?

Thought not.

(BTW, thanks for comments on above mentioned post Krazy 10:07)
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September 29, 2010 10:37pm
Hurf Durf

At least the WaPo might be able to erk out a 1-1 draw after they failed to smear Bob McDonnell from office last year. It’s funny, if the Repubs managed to retake the whole legislature but lose Delaware, what do you think Newsweak, the New York Slimes etc will wax lyrical about? Fucking jokers.

I hope one day, something daft I said 14 years prior becomes hysterically regurgitated by the left-wing MFM as something super serious and important.
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September 29, 2010 10:45pm
Stuart Mackey

Luc Hansen (1,983) Says:
September 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
So sad: old and fading from relevancy, John Howard just can’t give up his racism.
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Speaking of fact free zones, you fail to actually show anything in this article that is actually racist, Luc.
What is truly amusing is that Howard disproves your accusation in the article in question

“I am a passionate believer in mulitiracialism. I believe that societies are enriched if they draw, as my country has done, from all parts of the world on a non-discriminiatory basis ”

Thats right Luc , John Howard, in his own words is a “passionate believer in mulitiracialism” he also believer in immigration from “all parts of the world on a non-discriminiatory basis ”
Hardly the words of an avowed racist.

Next time Luc, read the bloody article and try and comprehend it.
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September 29, 2010 11:04pm
kaya

Bernard Hickey has ad an epiphany!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/the-changing-world/news/article.cfm?c_id=1502962&objectid=10674188&ref=masthead

Good lad.
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September 29, 2010 11:10pm
Pete George

“Evolution remains a theory, complete with supporting evidence and scientific gaps.”

That would be a generally accepted summary (albeit denied by many like O’Donnell who called it a myth which is patently incorrect, religion is far more myth than evolution).

“Promoters of evolution need to get comfortable with this status because the shrill claim that it is a conclusively proven fact comes across as a bit desperate.”

That’s not what was said, I’d doubt anyone with any scientific nous would claim conclusive proof.

“My suspicion is that ‘proven evolution’ is really thinly disguised proxy for a proven non-existence of God.”

That’s quite a step. Evolution is only one of many parts of science that have troubled beliefs on the existence of God for a long time. But God is not a theory, it is a belief that cannot be proven or dis-proven, there is no science involved so it is quite different to evolution.

It’s easier to look at the two separately, to see evolution as credible science and to see God as part of belief systems. They don’t compete directly, although over time increasing scientific knowledge will adjust many people’s beliefs. Beliefs don’t change science, only further scientific discovery will do that.
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September 30, 2010 7:08am
dad4justice

Thanks petey gal anybody reading your thoughtful post of rubbish will be convinced a God exists. No doubt he kept you awake all night. I see another huge day spurting hyperbole is the order of the day. Really get AWAY from the keyboard fool.
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September 30, 2010 7:15am
Put it away

Atheists know more about religion than xtians

http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/4177887/Atheists-top-religious-knowledge-survey
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September 30, 2010 7:24am
Pete George

Seems there’s no getting away from the keyboard fool, dad4justdiss, you keep coming back. You’re usually just a grumpy old troll – try posting something thoughtful yourself some time. You can think can’t you?

PIA: that’s interesting – and odd. Or maybe not, perhaps those who know more tend to believe less.
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September 30, 2010 7:27am
joana

Iran is also are very dangerous country PG..they are doing all they can to destabilize Iraq..if they take over Iraq they have a huge amount of oil and land and even more power..they have Russia and China as friends.
The US is a once great country in decline..but over the years who has been more generous? The Pakis fellow muslim countries offered a small by comparison amount of aid but it was very slow in coming…The Pakis can bag the US forever but then when they found themselves in a tight spot..who did they demand aid from??..America of course.
Who really knows how much money the US has given to countries like Egypt and Pakistan? and how have they been repaid? It is as if America has tried to ”buy the love” all over the world but it hasn’t worked. I suppose more fools them for ever thinking that money could buy love.
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