Goff instructs Maori Party to support him
September 23rd, 2010 at 9:00 am by David FarrarLabour leader Phil Goff says the Maori Party needs to start listening to Maori voters and put a future coalition with Labour back on the table.
He told Waatea News that the meltdown of ACT and improving polling among other opposition parties means the next Government could well be a coalition of Labour, the Greens and New Zealand First.
Mr Goff said the Maori Party needed to face up to the fact National “hasn’t delivered for Maori”.
He also said the majority of Maori voters gave their party vote to Labour last election.
Firstly I note how Labour are openly talking up NZ First. They campaign on transparency in electoral laws, yet say they believe WInston didn’t know about the Owen Glenn donations. Ha.
Anyway, don’t you like the arrogance of demanding the Maori Party must support them, as most Maori gave Labour their party vote.
Goff has had Mallard and Jones spend most of the last two years attacking the Maori Party, and finally it has clicked he will need them to have a chance to form a Government. What a stroke of genius.
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September 23rd, 2010 at 9:04 am
Wow
What a dreamer Goff is. There’s no way Maori will go back with Winston.
That’s got to be one of the most ignorant campaign statements I have ever read.
The ignorance factor is so bad its on a par with telling us Liarbour lost the last election over shower heads and light bulbs.
Phils just lost a heap of credibility.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:09 am
Vote Labour; get Labour+the Greens+the Maori Party+Winston First
Talk it up some more Phil; you’re on to a winner there!!
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:10 am
Gee, so he’s demanding in public.
That’s always so much more effective than building relationships behind the scenes.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:11 am
Winston should move to Hamilton, be right at home in the land of the dead duck.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:13 am
Any party that seeks an aliance with these racists and thugs has lost any claim to the moral high ground. When the rise in popularity of parties that seek votes from white Europeans begins in New Zealand, as a backlash to the Maori Party, it will be the politicians in National and Labour today and their pathetic and despicable pandering to the (so called) Maori race who will share the responsibility for that rise.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:14 am
Hey Phil hows that Chris Carter situation looking?
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:19 am
As Douglas tries to instruct Key: http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/hide-supports-key-over-douglas-flyers-130369
“Sir Roger said the flyer was the first in what would be a series of releases – under the banner of “Who really cares” – comparing himself to the Prime Minister.”
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:19 am
Earth to Phil Goff, Earth to Phil Goff! Come in Phil Goff! If you can hear me Phil Goff, do not fire thrusters! You are already in orbit, firing thrusters will send you into deep space. Earth to Phil Goff, Earth to Phil Goff! Come in Phil Goff! Please respond!
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:28 am
Meanwhile Labour attacks PM over support for Act leader
So Douglas attacks Key.
Hide says he supports Douglas (but didn’t know what he was doing).
Goff attacks Key for supporting Hide.
Garrett attacks Roy who attacked Hide.
Carter attacks Goff.
Everyone attacks Carter.
Harawira will be feeling overshadowed.
The Commonpelt Blames.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:28 am
Mr phil goff is looking to create a little itty bit of unease in the national party – Take Act seats from national next election and (Rodney losses epsom) and what happens???
and rodger douglas is also helping nicely with his pamplets…
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
The Marae show on TVNZ is currently a Labour mouthpiece aimed at Maori voters. If you saw their show on Sunday they were blatantly one sided on almost everything presented – especially the National Standards debate. No intellectual basis for the arguments put forward for why national standards shouldn’t apply to Maori schools, and no response from the Government to the arguments against. Incredibly bad reporting.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:44 am
Labour appears to have learnt nothing from their defeat! likewise to date they also offer nothing!!
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:46 am
I am a right wing voter.
However, next election I am voting Greens as the country is now fucked so we may as well get it over & done with. National have not done what they were elected to do and are left wing anyway. They will be Johnny no mates next election with imploding ACT.
Labour will win the next election with help from friends and we will be the over taxed, under productive paradise in the South Pacific. Then we will get General Secretry Little as leader as part of a transistion and we will cuddle up to the likes of Chaves in Venesvala.
Too many un productives will vote this way and the MP will go with Labour if it gives them the numbers. We are deluded to think otherwise.
I hate to be so negative, but I cannot see anything but something what I said above becoming the truth in late 2011.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:52 am
And you instruct people to support NACT.
ZOMFG!!!
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:55 am
Lazybum – I am a green voter and I think you’re wrong. Labour are a complete dog’s breakfast. The greens are increasingly shrill, weak and off-message.
Your feared imminent demise of the political right in this country is being matched, turn for turn by the demise of the political left in this country.
Bill & Ben in 2011…
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 9:58 am
Lazybum I suspect you are a Labour troll, because if you’re not you’re a dick for that attitude.
I’m really sorry that ACT is having the wobbles but with Boscawen in charge and Rodney a supporter and focusing his energy where he is good they can come right for the next election. Hard decisions for Rodney and the rest of ACT.
NZ needs another option for it’s party vote and National needs it desperately, if they don’t come to the party then they are toast.
That also means getting rid of the poison in their ranks.
The Maori party and the Maori seats are racist and we have to get those seats abolished to move forward.
National has a lot of work to do and they have two problems.
1. is progressives in their party coupled with the lack of principle.
2. is the NZ voting base, being hand out compliant and leftist/center with all the crap that brings. In short they have become dependent on big mummy. We need to grow up as a Nation and have grown up goals.
Labour + the Watermelons will never allow that as they have to control, that is their DNA. sadly but true.
Vote:When have they ever advocated small govt and social responsibility including it’s consequences?
September 23rd, 2010 at 10:04 am
Not a bad strategy Lazybum. Really, the current infatuation with Progressivism/ socialism can only have one result, and that is the eventual bankruptcy of the country as eventually we run out of other people’s money.
The left have turned democracy from valuable and useful political system into a vote buying farce where in each election huge numbers of parasites, the product of left wing social policies, elect criminals and crooks to parliament who promise to give their short sighted supporters more of their loot from the ever shrinking productive sector.
The Maori party is one of the worst examples of this perversion of democracy in that they take money and hand it out on a race basis, thereby firmly driving a wedge between Maori and every other NZ citizen.
In the US, the Tea Partiers offer a way out of the inevitable collapse that faces NZ, but given the socialist’s tight control of the media and information here, most noticeably by means of the stinking and ideologically corrupt stain on democracy that is the TV One newsroom, there is little chance of relief by that means.
Probably you’re right. Just hasten the inevitable collapse. Let the dumb fuckers learn the hard way.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 10:06 am
I hear ya, but that well highlights the problem that National faces by not having a natural coalition partner. Assuming ACT (mercifully) shuffles off the scene, the equation becomes National + ..?
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 10:08 am
MikeNZ – I am not a Labour Troll. I am right wing and I was at John Key’s election night bash 2 years ago as I helped on election day at Helensville. I even had lunch with him at the Kumeu church that day.
Vote:Too many non productives will get this country going down the gurgler. I see today Greenpeace was at Fonterra’s HQ in Auckland protesting, where were the police to stop this rabble stopping people doing their daily jobs. Sums up NZ well at present, the non productives having a big say on how companies operate.
September 23rd, 2010 at 10:10 am
Bring back Kiwiblog! NationalPolitickingBlog is boring.
Why so much focus on the soft target of a lacklustre and electorally spent Labour party? The lady doth protest too much, methinks. If DPF is privy to the thinking of this government, it’s alarming that we hear so little about National’s ideas and progress on making NZ a more prosperous place.
Where are the ideas? Where are the plans. Where is the progress.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 10:15 am
“Where are the ideas? Where are the plans. Where is the progress.”
For God’s sake Malcolm. Wake up to yourself. There was the bike track. There was the boy racers. There was banning cellphones while driving. Now they’re going to bring down the alcohol limit. They’re on to it man, they’re on to it..!!!
(ain’t that Mr Joyce just so dynamic??)
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 10:19 am
I was hoping for a little more.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 10:22 am
Who’s pickin Maori party will campaign harder to get the party vote and Labour will lose out big time ?
Key and Goff must be packing their undies if the Maori party can swing the Pasifika vote too.
NO wonder Key wants to ditch MMP but cant afford to go to hard out yet cos it’ll mean the end of ACT and his pet Rodders.
oooh imagine that…the Maori party with 10 or 15 seats in the ‘big house’ and repping for wider Pasifika ?
be afraid, be very afraid
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 10:23 am
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
DPFs allll man
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 10:23 am
“I was hoping for a little more.”
How about broadband?
(Funny thing is, at the same time as he was promoting this, the political genius Joyce was criticising the Soviet Union.)
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 10:30 am
True – I didn’t want to misquote whatshisname.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 10:32 am
Labour has been ordering Maori around for half a century or more like a Southern plantation owner did his field slaves.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 10:40 am
Let them have their fibre folly. It’ll be useful at least, and wasting our money on over-spec’d infrastructure is a much smaller sin in my book than wasting money on things which are corrosive to NZ’s future. Separatism, welfare and too much government.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 10:50 am
RRM said
You think? I think half of Bill and Ben might have a bit more to worry about in 2011 than standing for Parliament.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 10:55 am
What, another one wants a stepping stone to a sweet UN job?
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
” There was the boy racers. There was banning cellphones while driving. Now they’re going to bring down the alcohol limit. They’re on to it man, they’re on to it..!!!”
They can take away a lot
How are they going to deal with the void.
Not work schemes or the cycle track would’ve started by now.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 11:44 am
I assume this now means that the campaign of Shane Jones to “drive” the Maori Party out of Parliament has failed. Now the line “you had better support the Labour Party – or else”. The Labour Party seems to have this idea that the Maori vote belongs to them as of right. At least the relationship between the Maori Party and National is one of mutual respect even if the relationship at times can be frustrating for both.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Funny how Key ruled out working with Winston Peters on some kind of moral stand, but will settle for the likes of Hone and the rest of those racist parasites.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
It may not be too late malcolm… check your ethnic heritage
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Anne Tolley’s trying to do something real.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Fascinating reading in this Kiwiblog, don’t actually know which way things are heading. National have privatised most of the country’s assets and are scraping around trying to find more assets to sell, Banks, Hide and Key are currently working out who is going to get Auckland’s assets once the SuperCity is put in place, i wouldn’t be suprised to see Fay Richwhites name already on the ownership papers as they are New Zealand’s privatisation specialist’s.
I don’t know whether all Maori’s support Hone Harawira he is just gets misinterpreted sometimes, its a bit bit like the Klu Klux Klan sometimes gets misinterpreted.
Yes we are heading toward a Banana Republic, however i would far prefer that than working in a Chinese Concentration Camp milking cows for Jenny Shipley and her Chinese Brothers.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Message for Phil:
Vote:Kia Ora Phil,
You are invited to submit your coalition agreement promptly for consideration . As you are aware there are no guarantees to the last cab on the rank.
Kakite
Hone Harawira
September 23rd, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Tony Ryall actually appears to be succeeding.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 4:40 pm
[Redbaiter 2:01] Yes, she is. The NZEI, PPTA, and MSM will ramp up their campaign a few more notches. The Tories will
revert to being their usual spineless selves, and abandon both Anne Tolley, and standards. These Conservatives have scarcely conserved anything since 1945.
cheers
David Prosser
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 4:53 pm
There’s the irony. I suspect most Maori see little or no benefit from the ToW settlements. Most benefit accrues to the higher-ups in the Iwi (whatever that is – you never hear of Iwi elections, do you?). What a mess. Still I’m sure National have a plan to put this 40 year old saga to bed…
…just don’t hold your breathe.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
DPF – Maori Party are going with Labour over National if they get the choice. It’s just that simple. Anything else woulod be electoral suicide. But you know this – so what the fuck are you up to?
[DPF: You keep thinking that, if that makes you happy]
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Container loads of ETS credts for Iwi forestry interests, F&S about to be gift wrapped and handed over. Suicide? Riiiight.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
kkk -
snore – you’re out of your depth numpty.
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
kkk .
Are ad hominem’s the extent of your repertoire?
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Don’t even try Bev
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Don’t even try Bev
Ohhhhhhh I better watch out eh? Wheres the roll eyes smiley when you need it?
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 7:05 pm
This post has dragged all the Labour hacks out of the interweb DPF. Do many of their IP addies point back to commie central?
Vote:September 23rd, 2010 at 10:19 pm
“(whatever that is – you never hear of Iwi elections, do you?). ”
That’s an understandable statement But Maori CEO’s REpresenting Iwi have to remember marae protocol and elders.
All it takes is for an elder to start asking questios and positions can change. If a CEO comes before a marae meeting he better have good answers. Elders and marae trusts have large influence and its usually they who have originally given a CEO the nod. No Maori CEO could feel completely secure otherwise.
And remember, Tainui CEO’s have the King to answer to. Maori politicians feel far safer in parliament.
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