Miliband wins

September 26th, 2010 at 10:11 pm by David Farrar

But it was younger brother Ed, not the favourite David. This effectively sees the death of New Labour, as Ed Miliband is from the traditional left.

What I find interesting is that breakdown of the voting. assigns 1/3 of the votes to the unions, 1/3 to rank and file members and 1/3 to the MPs (incl MEPs).

On the 1st round of voting amongst MPs, David got 42% to 32% for Ed. In the final round he got 53% to 47%.

Amongst rank and file members, in the 1st round David got 44% to 30% for Ed. The final round saw it 54% to 46%.

So how did Ed win? The vote of the union affiliate members.

In the first round they backed Ed 41% to 28%. And in the final round they went for him 60% to 40%.

That gave him an overall victory of 50.65% to 49.35%.

So the new Labour Party leader was not the preferred choice of his caucus, or his members. But he was the preferred choice of union members.

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17 Responses to “Miliband wins”

  1. metcalph (1,366 comments) says:

    I’ve a feeling David Milibrand is going to be made shadow spokesperson for Banana Issues.

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  2. Redbaiter (11,880 comments) says:

    Is there ever going to be an election where leftists don’t engineer the outcome? From Obama’s union thugs and Acorn, to the VSM, to the Mana candidate selection, to the UK Labour leader, its all conditional upon whatever crooked double dealing and subterfuge they can get away with.

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  3. Inky_the_Red (764 comments) says:

    The UK Labour Party vote according to their rules. So what?

    In NZ, for both Labour and National, the entire vote is based on the caucus which are the rules for those Parties.

    The UK (and NZ) Labour was established through the Union movement. They established on different rules to other Parties I can see no reason why you would thing it odd. It may not be the way you would it to be but you (like me for different reasons) are never likely to vote for either the UK or NZ Labour Parties

    [DPF: I have voted for the NZ Labour Party]

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  4. eszett (2,450 comments) says:

    That gave him an overall victory of 50.65% to 49.35%.

    Overall it seems that it could have easily gone the other way. Not much of a victory either way.

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  5. Stuart Mackey (336 comments) says:

    Inky_the_Red (203) Says:
    September 26th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
    The UK Labour Party vote according to their rules. So what?
    ************************************

    The point is that these rules are not in any way democratic.

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  6. eszett (2,450 comments) says:

    Stuart Mackey (272) Says:
    September 26th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
    Inky_the_Red (203) Says:
    September 26th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
    The UK Labour Party vote according to their rules. So what?
    ************************************

    The point is that these rules are not in any way democratic.

    That’s an interesting assessment. Would you care to elaborate.

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  7. Redbaiter (11,880 comments) says:

    “I think he could make an excellent coalition with LibDems”

    Perhaps you do hold that opinion, but I’m mystified as to why you thought something so subjective worth posting here.

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  8. george (269 comments) says:

    Redbaiter, you say: “Perhaps you do hold that opinion, but I’m mystified as to why you thought something so subjective worth posting here.”
    You have posted 11,573 comments. Do you realise how absolutely fucking insane you are?
    I say this as someone who I think tends to agree with you on most importsnt issues.
    But you have posted nearly 12,000 comments, mostly mocking others who post here.
    Who are you? Do you have a job? How come you are always on line?

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  9. James Stephenson (2,265 comments) says:

    That’s an interesting assessment. Would you care to elaborate.

    The result was down to disinterested affiliate union members being leant on by their leadership, this is a win for Charlie Whelan and shows the division in the party is a deep and stark as ever.

    The Al Campbell quote is a goodie: “Ed will make the party feel good about losing.”

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  10. MT_Tinman (3,315 comments) says:

    [DPF: I have voted for the NZ Labour Party]

    Please tell me it was 1987.

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  11. tvb (4,553 comments) says:

    The trade Union vote is about the preferences of about 5-6 people and they over-ruled the preferences of the MPs and the membership.Of course the membership will have people who are also affiliated to the Unions. Democracy in the Labour Party has always been a fix by the Trade Union Barons. I assume Miliband will oppose many of the spending cuts balancing out revenue with some new taxes on the RICH.

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  12. Bob R (1,419 comments) says:

    ***The problem facing Red Ed and ‘Old Labour’ is how do they capture the votes of the middle class when their leader has openly said he wants to raise taxes?***

    Increase immigration from third world countries until they form a majority.

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  13. BlairM (2,340 comments) says:

    Can we expect another long suicide note in 2015? :-P

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  14. RRM (10,097 comments) says:

    Should have made Ed Balls their leader…

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  15. Clint Heine (1,495 comments) says:

    Well, I hope from these results that Labour never again accuses the National and ACT Parties for being under the influence of shady outside organisations and motives. The unions themselves have very strict policies, all of which are completely unworkable in any democratic and prosperous free nation.

    I don’t want to hear again about Business Roundtable boogiemen, the unions are a far scarier bunch of people. And Labour is in there neck deep and both sides are financially bound to each other.

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