Bethune savages Sea Shepherd

October 6th, 2010 at 12:20 pm by David Farrar

Ecorazzi report:

The former captain of the Ady Gil, who was arrested (and later set free on a suspended sentence) after boarding a Japanese whaling vessel, has lashed out at the group — calling them “dishonest” and “morally bankrupt”.

“I am asking that from now on, SSCS determine to act in an honest way with its volunteers, supporters and media,” he writes on his Facebook page. “SSCS does not need to lie. Saving whales, dolphins, tuna and sharks are noble causes, and the public will embrace these as worthwhile. The story does not need to be manipulated and changed in order to get public support.”

Hard to know who to support when it is Bethune against . But Bethune is now exposing the lies of :

Pete says:  ”After the ramming of the Ady Gil, Chuck said to me that Paul, the Admiral of the Sea Shepherd fleet, wanted me to scuttle the Ady Gil. He said there was no point in towing the boat all the way to the French base, and that it would be best if the boat was just sunk and we could get on with chasing the whalers. Later that day, Chuck and I went to the Ady Gil, and I performed the necessary tasks with Chuck observing. Ady Gil then gradually took on water, and later that night she was left to sink, while the Bob Barker moved on to pursue the fleet.”

“I felt horrid before, during and after the scuttling and I have felt terrible about it ever since. It broke me heart to sink a vessel that had been such a big part of my life, and I also felt we had betrayed SSCS sponsors, SSCS supporters, Ady Gil, and the public by lying about it. It was a totally dishonest thing to do and as a conservation group, the order is a total breach of ethics.”

“I sincerely regret my role in this. I apologise unreservedly to Ady Gil, and Sea Shepherd Volunteers and supporters, all of whom I have let down. It was the wrong thing to do, and while I was under orders to do so, I should have refused to carry out the instructions. I am resigning from Sea Shepherd forthwith.”

Well he has just gone up in my estimation.

Pete Says: “When I met with Paul Watson in July 2009, he gave me permission to take a Bow and Arrow to Antarctica, with the idea of pasting a poison on the arrow tips (or fake poison), and firing them into dead whales while they were being transferred from harpoon vessel to processing ship. When I met Paul on the Steve Irwin in Antarctica, I confirmed all tactics, and he again said I had permission to use the bow and arrow if we came across a suitable situation.”

“After the Ady Gil was scuttled, crew of the Shonan Maru found four arrows in the water. SSCS issued a press release denying all knowledge of the arrows, suggesting instead that the whalers had planted them as false evidence. There was no need to say anything at all. The story was the Ady Gil had sunk…not that some arrows had been found. No one really cared about four arrows when the whalers had explosive harpoons and 12 gauge shotguns.”

“In issuing the press release, SSCS was lying to media. It was a mistake to ever deny the arrows, and the communications debacle since then has been a total disgrace

The ones who should take notice of this are the media. They tend to report the claims of the whalers and Sea Shepherd equally, as equally credible. They now have proof that Sea Shepherd blatantly lie to them. They should not publish allegations from Sea Shepherd in the future unless they can be substantiated.

Pete says, “A number of crew on the Bob Barker and Steve Irwin were discussing the alleged shooting of Paul Watson. In the first series of Whale Wars, Paul Watson was supposedly shot by crew of the Nisshin M…aru. SSCS Crew present on that voyage argued strongly to me that the entire episode was faked. I was not on the campaign, so in fact I don’t know if it is in fact true or not. However given what I’ve witnessed in the last year, and my knowledge of the Japanese crew, I would bet $500,000 at odds of 10:1, that the event was staged. The shooting represents just another lie that does little for the credibility of SSCS. The organisation does not need to lie or be deceptive to sell its message. The public will support the cause of stopping whaling, however they will not support SSCS if they become aware of the many lies the organisation increasingly propagates through media.”

I am actually against the Japanese whaling tactics. However I am against SSCS even more. Their tactics actually help the Japanese whalers. I’ll take an honest whaler over a dishonest environmentalist. I will give credit here to Greenpeace who have campaigned on this issue without the lies and violence of SSCS.

Pete says, “What really concerns me most is the apparent moral bankruptcy of senior SSCS personnel. They routinely conspire and lie over serious matters, with little regard for people like myself who they malign and bulldoze along the way. They misrepresent themselves to the public who are generous enough to support them, and to media who they rely on to promote their cause.”

“The short time I have been associated with SSCS, and the sheer number of lies I’ve witnessed, makes me realise there is a large and increasing number of skeletons hidden in the SSCS closet. It is time for this closet to be closed (or opened fully) and for the organisation to move on. I am asking that from now on, SSCS determine to act in an honest way with its volunteers, supporters and media. SSCS does not need to lie.

I think this makes it clear the SSCS and Paul Watson especially are pathological liars.

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37 Responses to “Bethune savages Sea Shepherd”

  1. Chthoniid (2,047 comments) says:

    Why anybody with a genuine interest in conservation would want o be associated at any level with the SSCS is beyond me. It appears to have become a personal vanity project for Watson.

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  2. DJP6-25 (1,389 comments) says:

    Wow! Fancy leftists being pathological liars. Who’d have thubk it? Almost as amazing as cats going maiow.

    cheers

    David Prosser

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  3. ciaron (1,441 comments) says:

    So he finally smells the coffee eh?, all that’s left is for him to admit that his helmsman was at fault.

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  4. krazykiwi (9,186 comments) says:

    Amazing!

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  5. burt (8,316 comments) says:

    All that left now is for him to admit that scuttling the Ady Gil started with driving it directly into the path of the whaling vessel.

    Come on, this is still half truth and is just covering his ass so we don’t call him on the lies we know about – there is no genuine exposure of the truth here – he has only confirmed the undeniable bits.

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  6. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    The whole of the environmental movement is driven by lies and deception. They have not one skerrick of credibility remaining. All they have is propaganda.

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  7. Pete George (23,685 comments) says:

    This is further confirmation that SSCS are more terrorist than conservationist. Bethune may be seeing the reality now, but he has an active part of it. One comment:

    When I met with Paul Watson in July 2009, he gave me permission to take a Bow and Arrow to Antarctica, with the idea of pasting a poison on the arrow tips (or fake poison), and firing them into dead whales while they were being transferred from harpoon vessel to processing ship.

    What if poisoned whale meat got back to Japan and was consumed? Unlikely, but the intent has been admitted. SSCS could say they would have reported any successful poisoning – what if whoever shot poisoned arrows was then sunk? These are seriously nasty tactics – what else do they contemplate?

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  8. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,920 comments) says:

    Took him a hell of a long time to wake up.

    Will we see a front page apology from the awful Herald for its persistent and nauseating pandering to these pirates?

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  9. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    Amazing? I’ll reserve judgement.

    While it is a good thing that we are getting an insiders view of what (maybe) really happens on the other side, it need to be tempered by the fact that Bethune believes SSCS sold him out over the incidents.

    A couple of questions spring to mind:

    1. Would Bethune be revealing this now if SCSS had stood behind him completely during his stay in japan and trial?
    2. Do the statements represents real evidence or just the spiteful comments of a wronged adherent (an environmentalist scorned)?

    If you suspect a “no” to 1 and are thinking it all sounds a bit spiteful and lacking in real evidence, then perhaps what we really have is more “me, me, me” from Bethune. [But it is good to get an inside view of the other side]

    As I said I welcome the whislteblowing (if, in fact Bethune’s ‘tell all’ statements are true) and I am definitely against the Sea Shepherd tactics, however I do not see his comments as in any way redeeming him personally.

    My personal opinion remains that Bethune is a spiteful and vengeful obsessive with all of the ethics and moral fibre of a parasite.

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  10. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “Will we see a front page apology from the awful Herald for its persistent and nauseating pandering to these pirates?”

    Not likely. The only arrogantly demand such things from those who break the speech and thought codes enforced by their Progressive masters. In the hopelessly perverted minds of those who pose as journalists at the Herald, Sea Shepherd and Bethune are only shop lifters. Paul Henry’s crime is right up there with child molesting.

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  11. Inventory2 (10,433 comments) says:

    Sea Shepherd dishonest? Wooooooooo – I never saw that one coming!

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  12. PaulL (6,048 comments) says:

    Basically what we have here are a bunch of spoiled rich kids playing at eco warrier, and congratulating each other at how clever they are. I mean, really, a bow and arrow with poison? There were no risks in that? Nothing could go wrong here?

    Leaving all that aside, what beggars belief for me is the way that the media allow this campaign to be communicated as if all whales are equally worthy. There is a vast range in the types of whales out there – from the seriously endangered and massive blue whale – the elephant of the sea (big, smart-ish, and herbivore), through the also endangered and very intelligent sperm whale (large mega-predator), through the orca that are intelligent pack animals, but not really endangered, through to animals like the minke that are neither endangered nor particularly intelligent – basically sheep of the seas.

    Running a blanket “save the whales campaign” is like running a “save the mammals” campaign in africa without distinguishing between zebras, lions and sheep. I’d agree that lions (charismatic megafauna that are endangered) and zebras (also endangered) need saving, but not at all convinced that there’s a shortage of sheep in South Africa. A little bit of discernment would go a long way to finding common ground with the Japanese.

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  13. ben (2,384 comments) says:

    Well he has just gone up in my estimation.

    Well he’s gone even further down in mine, if that’s possible. Taking six months to work out what your values are, and lying the whole time, before, finally, coming clean about it, and then pointing to the fact that you were operating under orders in a civilian operation, is not the mark of a man with integrity. In fact by going public about this he’s simply lumping disloyalty and showmanship on top of lying and hypocrisy. What’s to like about this guy?

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  14. adze (2,129 comments) says:

    Never had any time for Sea Shepherd or Peter Buffoon anyway.

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  15. Guy Fawkes (702 comments) says:

    We should also save Pandas, even though if there was no human intervention or even presence they are going to become extinct.

    Mono Food source, and too lazy to breed.

    Lovely colours for a large Bear thing.

    As for Polar Bears, the left still claim they are highly endangered despite the fact that numbers have tripled since the early 50’s.

    Enviromentalists that flout common decency and maritime laws should be just locked up and their trust baby funds handed over to compensate the sucker funders.

    It’s a Scam.

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  16. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “Well he’s gone even further down in mine, if that’s possible. Taking six months to work out what your values are, and lying the whole time, before, finally, coming clean about it, and then pointing to the fact that you were operating under orders in a civilian operation, is not the mark of a man with integrity.”

    Exactly right. An unprincipled liar and opportunist. Worthy only of contempt.

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  17. GPT1 (2,123 comments) says:

    Media reporting on these issues was appalling. Transparent lack of investigative reporting – I do not recall one interview from an independent expert about the “collision” for example. It’s almost like the media take the view that New Zealanders are mostly against whaling therefore we will beat this for all it is worth and bugger the truth.

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  18. Repton (769 comments) says:

    They tend to report the claims of the whalers and Sea Shepherd equally, as equally credible.

    Well, that’s pretty standard for the news media. Any time there’s an issue that is in any way controversial — climate change and alternative medicine are two more examples that spring to mind — they will bring in “experts” from both sides and carefully avoid making editorial judgement.

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  19. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “it’s almost like the media take the view that New Zealanders are mostly against whaling therefore we will beat this for all it is worth and bugger the truth.”

    The media are against it, but like most in the left wing mainstream media, they have yet to come to grips with the reality that they are way out of kilter with the citizenry.

    The left keep smugly portraying those who oppose them as crazy, when the reality is the opposite. The left are in the minority, but because they have gradually worked their way into so many key positions in our society, they are able to project, by widespread propaganda, the view that their political position is mainstream.

    They made one big mistake recently in organising a rally to confront the Tea Party. It was a miserable failure. Further evidence of their real unpopularity exists in the ratings on TV and radio in the US, where left wingers fill all the bottom slots. If there were right wingers here, instead of the wall to wall leftist that dominate our NZ media, they too would send these frauds to the bottom of the ratings.

    Still though, showing what gormless morons they really are, they persist with the propaganda that the views they hold are mainstream views. They are not. The media is completely infested with far left propagandists and liars whose political views are at odds with those of many NZers.

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  20. Yvette (2,849 comments) says:

    I wrote [13 July 2010] to the Minister of Foreign Affairs regarding the Permit/Notification under the Antarctica [Environmental Protection] Act 1994 to the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society for the Antarctic expedition of the Ady Gil.
    There were a number of Ministerial Directions to ensure the expedition complied with rules and practices relating to maritime safety.

    A reply in part said –
    “We are awaiting Maritime New Zealand’s report on their investigation into the collision between the Ady Gil and the Shonan maru 2, which is expected soon, before we complete our assessment on whether there has been a breach of ministerial Directions.
    There is a range of possible responses available to me in any situation where there may have been a failure to comply with Ministerial Direction
    .”

    Besides possible repercussions for non-compliance, the question must now be has any member of Sea Shepherd, including Bethune, perjured themselves in giving any evidence to inquiries into the Ady Gil / Shonan maru 2 incident?

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  21. trueblue (23 comments) says:

    Now wait for the spin from Toad

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  22. thedavincimode (6,877 comments) says:

    Ben

    You are right on the money.

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  23. burt (8,316 comments) says:

    Yvette

    the question must now be has any member of Sea Shepherd, including Bethune, perjured themselves in giving any evidence to inquiries into the Ady Gil / Shonan maru 2 incident?

    Exactly. The most interesting “revelation” I see in all of this is the admission to scuttle the Ady Gil. Looking at the footage from the maru 2 it absolutely looks like the Ady Gil powered up the thrust resulting in the collision? It would be interesting to see Bethune questioned more about scuttling the Ady Gil, furthermore, were there insurance claims associated with the sinking ?

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  24. krazykiwi (9,186 comments) says:

    @burt – I wondered about the same thing, insurance.

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  25. david@tokyo (263 comments) says:

    Did any one (other than SS supporters) need Bethune to tell us this to realise it?

    DPF – Greenpeace Japan had two activists convicted of trespass and theft recently, they may not lie and use violence as outrageously as SS, but they are hardly a model campaign group. They aren’t even campaigning against whaling now, but are directing their funds towards their “human rights” and “freedom of expression” campaign in Japan, rather than simply taking punishment for committing simple crimes.

    Also I again challenge you to produce a reason why sustainable whaling activities in accordance with international agreements to which our government has adhered ought be banned, but (for example) New Zealand farming practices are OK. When I weigh up the pros and cons of each I can’t see how any meat eater could oppose sustainable whaling.

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  26. david@tokyo (263 comments) says:

    PaulL, I agree with your comment that “A little bit of discernment would go a long way to finding common ground with the Japanese.”

    Problem is, who in New Zealand really cares about this issue enough to actually bring about such a change in government policy? There’s no votes in that so far as I can see.

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  27. burt (8,316 comments) says:

    david@tokyo

    I agree with the farming comparison however It’s not a rational comparison that occurs in peoples minds. It’s like saying if you eat meat then you would be happy to eat cat or dog.

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  28. david@tokyo (263 comments) says:

    I struggle to agree with that last bit, which I see as being inside out.

    I don’t want to eat cats and dogs myself, but in principle I have no issue with Koreans and Chinese (and any other people who regard these animals as food) doing so.

    To me it’s rational to have a personal position on something but to respect and tolerate others who are different. Kiwis need not themselves have a desire to eat whales (although it seems some besides myself, particularly in Maoridom, do) in order to tolerate the whale eaters in Japan, Iceland, Norway, Alaska, Greenland, Indonesia etc. But with NZ remaining adhered to the whaling convention, our government as with others has been behaving poorly in it’s opposition to it. Australia’s case against Japan at the ICJ (when it fails, which I believe it will) may provide a catalyst for that situation to be rectified. Either by New Zealand modifying it’s policy or otherwise withdrawing from the whaling convention.

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  29. burt (8,316 comments) says:

    david@tokyo

    I concur with your reasoning. If people want to eat cats and dogs then fine, who am I to judge that behavior unless it’s mine they flog to do it. Unfortunately ‘the whale’ – the generic ‘big sea mammal’ is so amplified in the human psyche as more than just another mammal and that’s where the emotion kills the rational reasoning for so many.

    I eat meat, pretty much any meat and I would eat whale if the opportunity presented itself. I wouldn’t knowingly eat cat or dog but hey I wouldn’t rule out that it has happened.

    As much as I don’t support whaling as we have seen in the past, but humans have been going to sea and capturing these creatures for centuries. I would like to see what would happen in NZ if Paua was declared endangered globally and Iwi were told by other countries governments and eco evangelist pirates not to harvest them…

    Imagine, Sea Shepherd activists beat up kaumatua for getting one of his boys to get him some Paua. The Paua diver is recovering from having acid splashed in his eyes.

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  30. PaulL (6,048 comments) says:

    Yeah, the hippies are all over people eating cats and dogs too. So long as they’re killed humanely, who are we to argue. Otherwise, will we perhaps stop eating cows to avoid upsetting the Hindi?

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  31. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    Don’t cry for poor Petey Bethoon, he’s netted himself a new gig: getting ‘em while they’re young!

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  32. david@tokyo (263 comments) says:

    The Indians don’t hassle us about cows because they recognise that it’s not their culture. Similar thing with pork. Odd that whales cause anti-whalers to react more strongly than people with religious beliefs?

    SS have posted more on the headline story on their page, and (who’d have thunk it?) Watson puts the collision of the Ady Gil and the Shonan Maru II down to Bethune’s negligence, pretty much as readers here at KiwiBlog had been saying at the time.

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  33. burt (8,316 comments) says:

    Now listen carefully children and I’ll tell you how you lie your way out of jail in Japan after scuttling your own ship in the south seas. Yep, that a role model all right.

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  34. Put it away (2,880 comments) says:

    Well what a week a shockers its been… Labour corrupt, carbon watermelons dream of exterminating their opponents, Bethune’s a gullible schmuck and Sea Shepherd are amoral liars. Whodathunkit?

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  35. krazykiwi (9,186 comments) says:

    Odd that whales cause anti-whalers to react more strongly than people with religious beliefs?

    Oh anti-whalers have a religious belief all right, as do the CAGW alarmists. They simply subscribe to modern, rather than long-standing theologies.

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  36. burt (8,316 comments) says:

    david@tokyo

    From A brief history of whaling.

    The Golden Age of American whaling extended into the 1850s, and what spelled its demise was the invention of the oil well. With oil extracted from underground being refined into kerosene for lamps, the demand for whale oil plummeted. And while whaling continued, as whalebone could still be used for a number of household products, the era of the great whaling ships faded into history.

    In the 1800’s fleets of ships where plundering the seas – do people really not see that the war only whaling has been well won. Ironically oil saved them from extinction. Taking a managed number of a specific target species for cultural reasons (however unpalatable that cultural practice may seem) seems like a basic human right to me.

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  37. Clint Heine (1,571 comments) says:

    I look forward to adding whale to my list of consumed foods I have eaten. How dare anybody take that away from me, hand wringing leftards and anybody else who opposes Japans right to hunt a few whales.

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