Carter says Jones would be a better leader
October 15th, 2010 at 2:00 pm by David FarrarChris Carter has finally named an MP whom he says would be a better leader for Labour than Phil Goff – Shane Jones. The NZ Herald reports:
Yesterday on Radio Live, Mr Carter also mentioned Shane Jones as one of those he believed could be a better leader than Mr Goff. He has previously refused to name them.
By coincidence Matthew Hooton writes in the NBR:
Which brings us to Mr Jones. Just as Mr Brown was ridiculed after his head-banging incident, Mr Jones suffered public humiliation from his penchant for porn. But time heals, and Mr Jones is the latest manifestation of the Maori leader who can appeal across racial lines. He’s the Labour man business thinks it can work with.
Moreover, his ambition is great, having been the golden child of his hapu from the day he was born.
Unpopular with Labour’s rainbow and feminist wings, securing the leadership would require him to produce polling showing him as capable of transforming Labour from a possible to a probable. Even then, he would face opposition from party president Andrew Little, who needs Labour to lose in 2011 if his own leadership ambitions can be fulfilled.
Nevertheless, having decided to stick with politics despite his porn humiliation, Mr Jones is not there to muck around.
He’s already raising his profile and briefing journalists about his comeback. The time for him to act is now.
And again, by coincidence, TV3′s Patrick Gower blogs:
Watching the miners in Chile, I can’t help but think of the Labour MPs – stuck down a dark hole, with an incredible effort needed to get them out.
It’s leader Phil Goff’s job to get them out – now he’s finished burying Chris Carter.
And one man who needs a lifeline is Shane Jones.
This call is never going to resonate as much as “Bring Back Buck”. But someone has to say it – Goff should “Bring Back Shane Jones”.
Is Jones Labour’s saviour in waiting?
Related posts:
- Jones, Carter & Cunliffe
- Carter, Jones and Ririnui
- Jones and Carter to be demoted
- Ririnui endorses Jones for Leader
October 15th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
The real gem in the NZ Herald article is where Shane Jones said “I fear that Chris Carter’s illness is worse than we expected.”
David Cunliffe must be breathing a sigh of relief.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Goff won’t put Shane Jones in as leader because Labour’s ratings will go up and that will make him look bad.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
That Shane Jones is under consideration as a possible Prime Minister shows how far this country has sunk in moral terms and in common sense. I advise anyone with brains to leave.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
This is clearly a faction-dispute between Labour’s hard left, and Labour’s centre. Carter’s ousting is clearly a symbol of the far left’s inability to unite the entire party – thus causing tension.
Goff should stick to his guns, now more than ever. It is crucial for Labour to push back the unions and take Labour back to its working-class origins.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
I would have to say that something is in the wind….
Watching silent “t” last night on TVNZ news it was impossible not to note the way he has changed his style a bit in the last few weeks, silent “t” is working hard at his delivery and public image, he is desperately trying to come across as a hard leader in the style of Klark.
I suspect the BBQ will be fired up at his place over the next week or so.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
He will have to lose that condescending tone if he wants to be PM. He was just awful when he was doing a weekly segment on ZB.
I do like the fact hes not popular with the sisterhood and gays in the labour party.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
BBQ at David Cunliffe’s ? That would be as uninviting as one of Judith Tizard’s Jazz & Fondue evenings.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Jones can be relied upon to take a hands-on approach
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Put it away – lol
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Put it away – Brilliant
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Whale Oil believes we’re ready for a gay PM.
America has a black president.
And yet I just don’t think NZ is ready for a Maori PM. And Hone Harawira hasn’t helped.
WE’re just not sophisticated enough to understand individuals are different.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
It is an interesting situation when the best thing that can happen for the Party President is for the Party to lose the next election.
It will also be interesting to see which faction wins the war that is so obviously being waged inside Liarbore at the moment. I almost hope and pray for the rainbow/hard left to win. That way, they can be assured of electoral oblivion in short order. On the other hand, New Zealand desperately needs an opposition, to force the current centre-left government to choose which way it will run – left or right. It has been sadly lacking for at least the past 2 years. On that basis, I think the Jones boy would be a far more worthy adversary for Neville Key than 4-hats Little.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
It has been said that Jim Anderton, as Labour president was determined to keep Bill Rowling as labour leader in order for Bill to keep the seat warm for Jim. Sounds familiar?
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Noting big bruv’s comments above on Cunliffe, I think Carter referring to Jones may well be a diversion to keep attention away from Cunliffe while he finishes his preparations.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Jones is a good man, he can be relied on to deliver the load (sorry goods) and will never stop until it’s been delivered fully!
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
I agree with Redbaiter…if this man is the best that labour have to offer, God help us.
He is a proven moral degenerate on my money.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
A bit of playful language from Hooton?
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Indeed – ‘Cometh the hour; cometh the man.’
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Jones is an arrogant tosser, so to speak. And who would want to shake his hand?
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
“He is a proven moral degenerate on my money.”
Stands to reason he’s being promoted by a TV3 “journalist”.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Shane Jones is a self confessed red blooded male who is not afraid to call a spade a spade (and admits to double clicking for porn). I do not think Labour are ready for Shane Jones.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
“Jones is an arrogant tosser,.. who would want to shake his hand?”
There is no doubt Shane himself practises the shake on a regular basis. Preferable at night in hotel rooms while watching blue movies.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
“I do not think Labour are ready for Shane Jones.”
I don’t think Parliamentary TV is ready for Shane Jones!
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
@Redbaiter
Will you be taking your own advice?
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
With Carter back as Deputy? I guess every wanker needs a good right hand….
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
And as Blind Pew Carter slipped Long Jones Silver the mark of the black spot…. Cap’n Goff said oh for the love of god will you just piss off you cloth eyed twit!
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Manolo,
Indeed. It’s not just when he’s out on the streets campaigning that Shane is shaking hands with the unemployed
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
If Carter really does not think that personal attributes do not matter in politics then the country is well rid of him.If Labour thinks that Jones up for the job as leader then the party is well and truly stuffed.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Labour are worried .. Mallard is suggesting, Redablurt, that the Govt will go for an early election .. I sense he is trying a double bluff. By suggesting this, it will put pressure on Key to confirm or deny. Mallard knows that they are in total disarray and an early election will crush them
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Whilst the majority of MPs are pompous prats and pratesses Shane Jones is one of the leading lights.
He talks down in a lowered pompous voice and treats whitey like the peasants.
Hes a triple dipper of very dubious ethics and morals and doesnt pass my test of even the lowest level as a leader.
Still as far as I know hes not gay or lesbian and thats the only plus in his favour for me.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Poor, sad, deluded fools looking for a messiah.
Labour’s poor polling is not because Goff is doing a bad job (which he is not). It is because National is popular. And while the Govt continues to do a good job nobody outside the “beltway”is interested in Labour.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
I’m still struggling to find in any of those items (albeit that it’s possible only to read Gower’s in full) the answer to – why?
There’s vague mentions of him being “like the brilliant rugby player that didn’t want to come to training”, and something about him being both for and against the Foreshore and Seabed Act. Aside from that…?
I can’t help but think that is Shane Jones is being promoted as the answer, those doing the promoting aren’t even sure of the question.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
# Redbaiter (12,116) Says:
October 15th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Redbaiter, is there any hope of dealing with gangs until the country adopts anti-drug laws more consistent with reality?”
Like Singapore? I’m for it if you are.
And yet you claim to believe in freedom Red…..sigh……
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Shane Jones – What a wanker.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
And yet I just don’t think NZ is ready for a Maori PM.
Not meaning to pick on you, but god I hate statements like this! NZ being ready has nothing to do with it. The real question is do we have a Maori representative of Parliament who is worthy of holding the position of Prime Minister? Right now I would say a firm no – mind you I also hold that opinion for the vast majority or Pakeha/Pacific Island/Indian/Chinese/Men/Women currently infesting that eye sore of architectural terrorism!
In my opinion the only MP in the last decade who happened to have Maori blood who I would consider worthy of being the PM was Tamihere – and it wasn’t because he was a Maori, anymore then it was because he had a meat and two veg.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
It’s just Carter shit stirring!
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
“And yet you claim to believe in freedom Red…..sigh……”
Excuse me. Has the Singaporean government dealt effectively with drug crime or not? That is the only issue here. I might even support your position on drugs but I will not do it on the basis that drug laws cannot be enforced. This is a patent misrepresentation as Singapore demonstrates.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
You are free are you James? Well you’re 20 times more likely to be the victim of a violent crime here than in Singapore.
Not really free from getting the crap beaten out of you by a drug crazed loon are you. Menawhile you’re free to raise your children in a manner the state decides against the wishes of 80% of its population.
You believe if santa as well James?
Freedom is relative, Singapore is safer.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
so Red/Murray – the answer is more government and regulation … thats the way it works in Singapore!
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
That’s why he’s still here
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
so Red/Murray – the answer is more government and regulation … thats the way it works in Singapore!
No, the answer is the right government and the right regulation.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
You want your drugs so badly run off and vote for Labour. Take Jimmy with you and see how you go there. Conservatives don’t need drugs and its not a priority item, and we don’t need single issue morons like you white anting our ambition to reduce the size of government and cut back on spending and borrowing. FYI there are a lot less laws on the books in Singapore than there are in the commie hole you have made of NZ while pretending to care about freedom. Take your support and your vote to Labour.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Um Red, you really need to state who you are talking to, I recommend quoting the individual.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
OK fair enough. I was talking to Double D- a pseudonym that I can only deduce is short for double dumbfuck.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
jesus red chill out
Vote:just because people challenge you doesnt mean they are labour/commies.
you know nothing of me or my politics.
based on a simple observation i made you have labelled me ….
i dont do drugs either and never have!
my point – Singapore is hardly the bastion of freedom and i agree NZ is heading in a very alarming direction
enough of play the man please – personal insults not necessary
October 15th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
“just because people challenge you doesnt mean they are labour/commies.”
I don’t see any other point in your post other than to advocate for a position that has for along period weakened the ability of the right to fight back against the left. There are only two sides. I suggest you pick one and support it. From your comment, I’d suggest you should support Labour. White ants just have to be avoided. They’ve been doing their work for far too long. If you cannot believe in a massive reduction in spending and borrowing and size of government, and commit to that as a priority, then go vote for and support Labour.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Or, alternatively, you could follow the National party’s advice, rather than some nutjob on a blog. I doubt that the National party would recommend you go vote for Labour, or that a failure to prescribe a “massive reduction in spending and borrowing” would automatically make you a lefty.
As usual, Red has very little grasp of the democratic process, and the need to get support of roughly half the population so as to form a government.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
“It’s just Carter shit stirring!”
Be careful that could incur demerit points.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
As usual Red has little grasp on reality
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Opps….posted that on the wrong thread….
If winning the war on drugs means having a violent police state like Singapore than no thanks….Nazi Germany was probably a safe place to walk the streets at night too….the problem was the biggest baddest criminals were running the state. now Singapore isn’t Nazi Germany….but its too authoritaian for normal people to want to live there.
And Singapore still has problems with drugs…they just keep it quiet.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Fine James. Go vote for and support Labour. Stop white anting the right with your one issue crap.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
It seems the left all over the world are struggling with factional warfare. In regards to Jones he is damaged goods, Not only regarding his porn but remember his involvement with that dodgey chinese guy I think his name was Lui who he gave a personal citizenship ceramony to against advise from multiple governments and our own Immigration Dept.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Fuck the “Rght”….if they don’t stand solidly for freedom and individual rights what use are they in combating the Left? Whats the difference?
Conservatives, phhhutt! ….just socialists of the soul.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
I am just SO over Mr Carter.
The saddest outcome is that he has set back the acceptance of gay people about 20 years. Hios irrational activity has rejuvenated the traditional prejudiced view of gays as bitchy, petulant and vindictive. He should go and take a long, long, long holiday and reflect on the big picture.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
FFS, there are heaps in Labour who would be better Leaders than Goff: Jones, Chauvel, Cunliffe, Robertson (Grant, not Ross), Ardern to name them.
But I’m happy if they stay with Phil, because that will leak votes to the Greens as the soft Lab/Nat voters become more disillusioned with Labour’s hopeless incompetence and more pissed off by National’s autocratic arrogance and look for answers other than Tweedledum and Tweedledummer.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
“Conservatives, phhhutt! ….just socialists of the soul.”
Good for you. Go off and vote Labour. If you’re not prepared to commit to massive reductions in government spending and borrowing and small government AS A PRIORITY then what good are you to Conservatives? We don’t need one issue loons splitting our forces. Here’s some news. We are not going to legalize drugs or allow homosexual marriage. Its just not an issue of great concern to us. Now piss off and lobby Labour.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Are you unaware you have proposed one issue? Who is the “we” and “us”, you and who? It sounds as if you have a widely supported horde or party backing you.
What you seem to really mean is that one day you hope someone else will go along with your one issue, to force what you want on the country that you hate.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
You have something in common with Wris Farter petey gal. You both write total rubbish and continuously woffle meaningless garbage.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Who invited you to the party d4j? Stereotyping men you disagree with as “effeminate” (ie poofters) is so 1950s. Grow yourself a cock and argue on the issue, rather than just put down the person presenting it with braindead ad hominem.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
orewa1 6:25 pm,
Since when have sodomites been anything but “bitchy, petulant and vindictive” ?
Vote:Carter is just being true to type.
October 15th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Red, I seem to remember frequent tirades from you about “we”. You and what army? Here’s a different idea. How about you piss off and leave alone those people who support the current direction of the National party, voted for them, and don’t want your religious conservative crap giving the right a bad name? Why are you trying to change the National party into something that is unelectable? Is there any truth to the rumour that you’re a leftist plant trying to give the right a bad name? If so, you’ve been keeping it up for an awful long time.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
“You both write total rubbish and continuously woffle meaningless garbage.”
Damn right Dad. Delusional disconnected incoherent rubbish.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
“Who invited you to the party d4j?”
Look here toady, you spineless green utopian creep. Keep well away from me you sick unit. I will rest until the parasitic good for nothing greens are totally obliterated from the political landscape. Wris is as about as sick as you. Both are useless as tits on a bull. Go have a shave hairy burtha.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
PaulL 7:40 pm,
There’s a storm coming, Paul – haven’t you heard?
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
@Kris K 7:39 pm
I don’t get bitchy, petulant and vindictive Kris.
As long as you don’t stroke me the wrong way!
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
“don’t want your religious conservative crap”
Paul, I thought I told you not to bother me with your boring rubbish. Know why? You’re just like Pete George. Full of strawmen, misconception and false allegation. I hardly have enough time to deal with legit arguments let alone completely false ones.
Read here, and read it three times so maybe eventually you’ll realise your mistake. Maybe.
http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/?p=2279#comment-6220
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
D4j, things are bleak when Reddy accuses you of “delusional disconnected incoherent rubbish”, but for a change he is has got it right. Are you the ddir twins?
It’s an odd stance to take where you will support any dipstick as long as they pledeg themselves to your impossible political dream – impossible in any democracy.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
“Grow yourself a cock and argue on the issue”
Unlike the eunuchs of the green party and pete george I have an able working penis. Just ask child support if you don’t believe me toady you vile backdoor lurker.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
I like Shane Jones. He would be great for Labour, and would hopefully knock out the gay/lesbians. They have caused so much damage already.
But, he should not move until after the next election, which is basically nationals to lose.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
The problem with Labour is that they lost touch with ordinary working men after Mike Moore was ousted as leader. Phil Goff, or failing that Shane Jones, are the best bet at the moment. Problem is they still stand for higher taxes, the nanny state and lack of individual responsibility. Oh and the anti-family stuff doesn’t help.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
“National’s autocratic arrogance”
Whereas Hulun was never like that toad?
Is they why the Gweens never objected to her whatever she did? Prior to that I had thought the Gweens were pwincipled, but then I saw otherwise.
And if the Gweens aren’t principled then what else do they have?
Jones will currently suffer amongst women voters and that’s a critical market for any male politician and cannot be tolerated in a leader. Mind you, Silent-T will suffer against both women and men once he starts opening his mouth and so that really leaves Little, lurking in the wings, waiting and watching…
The key question for Jones is whether he can get women over his “foible” and that remains to be seen.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
@d4j 7:42 pm
Long may you rest, d4j.
Although, from the tone of your comments, the less you rest the more it helps the Greens. So please don’t rest too long.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
I was going to edit what I meant to say, that I will not rest until the green party is destroyed but I knew you would pick up on the point because you got nothing better to do than hang around like an offensive green stinking odour.
What is the greens claim to fame other than Nandors deplorable actions in the debating chamber. Nothing , the public have had it with you parasitic hang on layabouts!
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
QED, d4j.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
‘The problem with Labour is that they lost touch with ordinary working men after Mike Moore was ousted as leader. Phil Goff, or failing that Shane Jones, are the best bet at the moment. Problem is they still stand for higher taxes, the nanny state and lack of individual responsibility. Oh and the anti-family stuff doesn’t help.’
The Communist Manifesto
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
“watching the miners in Chile…………and one man that needs a lifeline is Shane Jones”. Piss off, they could never get the fat git in one of those tubes.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Toad
Do you not think that old D4J doth protest just a little too much?
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
“The problem with Labour is that they lost touch with ordinary working men after Mike Moore was ousted as leader.”
Yeah you’re right centreforward, they did. Maybe Phil should start wearing blue overalls and a hard hat round Parliament, that way he could incidentally also recapture a proportion of the wayward rainbow vote at the same time.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Redbaiter’s 5 step plan for NZ:
1) JK implements all the hard right policies that Redbaiter champions. While most will be for the ultimate good of NZ (eg tax cuts rather than working for families), there is massive short term pain as the country adjusts.
2) National destroys the electoral trust that took it so long to regain. Support plummets.
3) Labour wins the next election in a canter, form a Govt with the Greens.
4) NZ recovers from the pain, and long term gain begins. Labour takes the credit. Enjoys massive support while it uses the money from the buoyant economy to implement whatever policy takes it’s fancy.
5) Labour/Greens repeatedly re-elected due to lasting good economy. Redbaiter enjoys the socialist paradise that him and his mates at the Standard have been yearning for.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Chris Carter has finally named an MP whom he says would be a better leader for Labour than Phil Goff – Shane Jones.
Vote:Yes, but does anyone believe this is a straight answer?
October 15th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
No Yvette!!
Carter is GAY!!
Where have you been.
Vote:October 15th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Kieran, if JK were to implement even one hard-right policy NZ would leap into revolution mode just like that. The Greens would start smearing themselves with molasses all over the place even in Parliament, TV One News would be doing 24/7 special updates upon the ramifications to the poor and down-trodden with Brian Edwards as special “crisis” commenter, it would be very amusing.
We conservatives would of course chortle at the masses as we sipped our port and smoked our specially imported expensive cigars as we laughed at the distress of the poor people so we’re OK, whatever happens.
The problem is, were the Douglas policies of the 80′s really the anathaema the left portray and seem to in fact believe they were? If so, how come the left never reversed critical Rogernomics infrastructural dynamics like the RBA? It’s almost as if lefties secretly agree this is the best way forward and indeed they proved this by their actions, but for the sake of branding, proclaim otherwise.
Sad for the country isn’t it that the whole project has been dead in the water for so long, for apparently ideological reasons. Sad, given that, Australia has had continuous reform from 1984-2007 and look where they are. Sad that we could have been there, were it not for the selfish lefties, who say one thing, and act in another way when in power.
Vote:October 16th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Trevor Mallard calling for an early Election is a novel way ridding Labour of Phil Goff as leader, and focus on building Labour for the future.
Vote:October 16th, 2010 at 9:03 am
On his radio interview with Willi & JT, Carter did mention how the 17 ‘rebel’ Labour member included teachers.
(I know it is taking a liberty with the term to use it in reference to Mallard, but he did at least think he was one once)
Vote:October 16th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Mallard taught my Mum when she was at high school, and she reckons he was a fucking rubbish teacher.
Vote:October 16th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Does anyone know how close Mallard is to Cunliffe? Could he be trying to get his hands on the deputy leadership position?
The Conference should vote unanimously in favour of a Cunliffe/Mallard ticket! The National and ACT parties would.
Vote:October 16th, 2010 at 10:19 am
wikiriwhis business (1,016) Says:
October 15th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
“Whale Oil believes we’re ready for a gay PM.”
Too late mate we had one for nine long miserable years…………….Never again!!
Vote:October 16th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Red, I thought I told you I’m not interested in what you think. I have no interest in reading your link.
Vote:October 16th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
They should bring back John Tamahere, he got the boot from Labour for telling the truth.
Vote:October 16th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Watching the MSM recently they are getting closer to Labour slowly like cancerous socialism – it keeps creeping until it manifests itself suddenly – probably about 9 months before the election.
Little does not want a change of leader before he is in parliament, and he will ensure it whatever others may think or scheme. Goofy is safe for the next 12 months so shut down the barby.
Vote:October 16th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Paulus,
I agree Little doesn’t want to make a move now, but Cunliffe does. If Cunliffe doesn’t get the job before the next election he risks being sidelined by the UNITEd Little council of unions.
His barbie will be being stoked up right about now and I suspect he will have an ex-ineffectual teacher (as well as also an ineffective parliamentarian) around for dinner. Who the other 15 are will start to become more obvious as the game plays out
Vote:October 19th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Shane Jones would be great, he’d be our first openly “pro-whaling” PM since New Zealanders decided to forgoe making profits from whaling themselves. It’s 2010, I reckon NZ is ready for it.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0506/S00483.htm
Ironically Carter however was the most rabid anti-whaler in the Labour party and yet even he is endorsing Jones.
Vote: