Does Williams know it is all over?

October 11th, 2010 at 1:07 pm by David Farrar

Jonathan Marshall at the SST reports:

The Auckland Council may have been elected with Len Brown up top but North Shore mayor is to don his mayoral chains one final time.

Williams has surprised councillors by calling a final meeting which will happen two weeks after the election.

Today North Shore City Council officials confirmed Williams has called an “extraordinary meeting” for October 27. An agenda was expected three days before the meeting. …

Deputy mayor Julia Parfitt said it would not be appropriate for her to comment on Williams’ decision to call a post-election meeting.

“I don’t call the meetings, you would have to speak to the mayor. It certainly wasn’t my choice,” Parfitt said.

She was surprised to learn Williams would be wearing his mayoral regalia.

“I wouldn’t expect him to wear his gown and chain, we have Len Brown as mayor now.”

Maybe he is going to loop the mayoral chains around his waist, and weld them to the Council Chamber so he can’t be evicted?

Should the Councillors wear their rain coats in case he mistakes them for trees?

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49 Responses to “Does Williams know it is all over?”

  1. jaba (2,091 comments) says:

    HEY NOW HEY NOW, DON’T DREAM IT’S OVER HEY NOW …
    Whale gave him a great send off with Sarah Brightman the the blind guy, very touching it was to

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  2. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    He’s going to succeed from Auckland and declare himself King. All the councillers are going to be armed and take up defensive positions around the bildign in preperation for the anticipated invasion from the other side of the bridge.

    He’ll force their hand by firing on the “foriegn presence” of the North Head gun positions.

    It will become known on the north shore as the war of souther agression but the population of Devonport will finally be free from opression from Takapuna.

    Anything here thats more loony than the shit hes already pulled?

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  3. Tom Gould (141 comments) says:

    As I predicted, Williams lost under the most vicious and venal sustained character assassination campaign by Whaleoil (Slater), the North Shore Times (Willis), the Sunday Star Times (Marshall) and Kiwiblog (Farrar), that any local government elected member has ever suffered in this country. Whether the attacks were justified or not is irrelevant to me, but what is relevant is that fact that no one, not even Key, could survive it. The real loser has been democracy, in my view.

    [DPF: At the risk of breaking Godwin's law, it is like saying that Hitler was subject to awful character assassination. In no way actually comparing the two - but highlighting how insane your assertion is that it is irrelevant whether the attacks were justified.

    The attacks on Williams were because of his behaviour - not because of his politics. In fact I think he was originally leaning centre-right.

    It is the same as Rob Goulden in Wellington - his politics are centre-right. But if politicians act in abusive ways, then they deserve to have this behaviour criticised.

    Key would survive such an attack - and does. The Standard has said far worse about Key. But the difference is they have no resonance because Key does not act like Williams does.

    Williams has only himself to blame.]

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  4. MT_Tinman (3,033 comments) says:

    Has the meeting been scheduled for just after mid-night?

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  5. Banana Llama (1,105 comments) says:

    Don’t worry i have a Carcano M91/38 :P

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  6. burt (7,945 comments) says:

    Perhaps Williams just knows that once the vote rigging has been fully disclosed he will still be mayor….

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  7. MikeG (410 comments) says:

    Meanwhile, in other news about Saturday’s losers, National’s rejunvenation continues with Banks being tipped as Epsom candidate for the next General Election. Banks was first in Parliament in 1981 when Muldoon was Prime Minister.

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  8. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    Nappy change isle Tom.

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  9. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Is Tom Gould another alias for Andrew Williams? :-)
    The deranged Williams was rejected by his electorate and soundly defeated.

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  10. PaulL (5,961 comments) says:

    I’d guess this isn’t a meeting, but a junket of some sort. Either just so the councillors can get the meeting payment, or so they can have a booze up and send off.

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  11. Nick R (498 comments) says:

    Funny that you have commented on North Shore’s post election extraordinary meeting but not Auckland City’s.

    The various Auckland councils all remain in place until 31 October, so they can hold further meetings until then. Auckland City Council has scheduled an extraordinary meeting for 19 October to consider the St Lukes mall resource consent, and maybe some other things, I’m not sure. Maybe Banksie is going to loop the mayoral chains round his waist etc so he can’t be evicted… but DPF wouldn’t want to comment on that, I guess.

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  12. MarkF (99 comments) says:

    @ Nick R

    At least you know at least 8 days in advance what the meeting is about not; “An agenda was expected three days before the meeting. …”. Knowing Mr AW it could be anything and three days may become none….

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  13. Nick R (498 comments) says:

    @ Mark F – hey, I didn’t say there was a good reason for Williams to call an extraordinary meeting! Maybe they are going to have a sweat lodge and full moon drumming course…

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  14. Tom Gould (141 comments) says:

    DPF, your self justification comes as no surprise. Nice if you would simply fess up to joining the character assassination of Williams because he dared to have a go at Hide and Key over ramming the super city down our throats, and that you and your mate Slater were simply acting on orders, to return to Godwin’s law.

    [DPF: 20 demerits for saying I am acting on anyone's orders. The irony is that in fact I had a senior person in National ask if I could get the attacks on Williams toned down.

    Now to the substance - Williams assassinated his own character. You seem unable to see this. The highlighting of his bizarre behaviour started long before the super city was an issue.

    The Rodney and Franklin and Papakura Mayors were off memory against a super city. Rodney was in fact probably the area that wwas most vocal against it. None of their Mayors have been attacked on KB - why not? Because they don't attack ambulance officers, piss on trees, send ranting e-mails at 4 am etc etc]

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  15. Inventory2 (10,161 comments) says:

    FFS Tom; Williams got nothing more than he deserved.

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  16. thekiwifish (8 comments) says:

    “Whether the attacks were justified or not is irrelevant to me”

    Irrelevant to you, but not irrelevant.

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  17. Rex Widerstrom (5,307 comments) says:

    If ever there was a situation screaming out for a video using the “Downfall” meme it is surely Williams’ last council meeting!!

    Never mind welding his Mayoral chains to the council table, I suspect he will have the doors welded shut and demand “his” councillors remain in the bunker with him to defend against the invaders. With similar results to the original.

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  18. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    Tom/Andy, get over it.

    Gone but forgotten.

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  19. Pete George (23,126 comments) says:

    Whale is claiming 100% success for Williams’ failures, and that it had proven a new (for NZ) method of attack electioneering. It’s impossible to say how much effect he had, but possibly he is over optimistic abnout what he achieved.

    Williams was and easy target, he was never going to win the mayoralty.

    Prime Minister John Key said Williams’ demise was “predictable”. “He had a few issues,” Key said.

    Williams had probably already defeated himself. And other prominent local body politicians also missed the cut.

    Apathy leads the poll on disillusioned Shore

    Only one in five North Shore folk has voted so far, and residents say they are disillusioned by political bickering and the lack of a strong mayoral candidate or key issues.

    Next time a negative attack campaign could just as easily be futile or backfire, unless of course Whale only selects lame targets.

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  20. Rich Prick (1,595 comments) says:

    Pete, it could only have taken Williams to make it work. It was just too easy given the material to work with.

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  21. John Gibson (295 comments) says:

    Pete George – “Whale is claiming 100% success for Williams’ failures, and that it had proven a new (for NZ) method of attack electioneering. ”

    I think that may reflect some of the megalomania that appears to be a part of Slater’s personality. Fortunately he failed to work his “magic” with Len Brown.

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  22. Pete George (23,126 comments) says:

    9121 – Michael Goudie (elected)
    8473 – Wayne Walker (elected)

    4429 – Andrew Williams (11th of 19)
    1186 – Cameron Slater

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  23. GJ (329 comments) says:

    Williams didn’t need Whale to help him get defeated, he did an admiral job all by himself!

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  24. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    “Whale is claiming 100% success for Williams’ failures, and that it had proven a new (for NZ) method of attack electioneering.”

    So 100% success on having people not vote for Williams which makes getting people to vote FOR him what… 12% succeful based on those numbers?

    I think he might be over playing his part in events.

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  25. deanknight (263 comments) says:

    Yes, well, folk smarter than me might want to have a go a reconciling ss 115 and 116 of the Local Electoral Act, along with ss 6 and 8 of the Local Government (Auckland Council) Act 2009.

    Some of us have argued elsewhere that there needs to be better provision, constitutionally, for caretaker periods and transitions during administration in local government…

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  26. Boss Hogg (9 comments) says:

    Who will be Jonathan Marshall’s unhealthy obsession now? I guess he’ll have to pull his pants up and take the body painting pictures of Williams off the ceiling.

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  27. Tom Gould (141 comments) says:

    The revelation that the Mayor John Banks is also convening a meeting of his defunct council proves my point perfectly. Marshall’s nasty little attack piece on Williams, with tame quotes from some loser local former city councillor, quickly posted on this and other right wing blogs, shows their character assassination formula in plain operation. I guess Slater and Farrar and Key and Hide will be hoping that their “new method of attack electioneering” doesn’t morph and get turned on them.

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  28. PaulL (5,961 comments) says:

    Tom: or that happened to be the meeting that someone heard about, so they wrote an article. And now that people know that Banks has one too, probably in tomorrow’s paper there’ll be a comment about that too. Although the info provided here suggests there is actually a need for a meeting of Auckland, unlike Williams’ meeting with no agenda.

    [DPF: The key difference I suggest]

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  29. Rex Widerstrom (5,307 comments) says:

    Murray points out:

    So 100% success on having people not vote for Williams which makes getting people to vote FOR him what… 12% succeful based on those numbers?

    I think he might be over playing his part in events.

    Depends what you go in aiming for. Prior to my little contretemps with Winston in 1996 I insisted on standing for Ohariu-Belmont and not Hutt South (where I grew up and was reasonably well kown) simply to get the chance to expose Peter Dunne.

    My tactic was to turn up to meet-the-candidates meetings and, for instance, read out an article quoting Dunne as saying Jim Bolger was an ignorant country hick who shouldn’t and couldn’t run a milking shed; then unfurling a blown-up article featuring a beaming Dunne sitting beside Bolger at the Cabinet table, having been offered a large enough bribe.

    I had no wish or intent to win, I was solely focused on the elimination of a person who was, and remains, NZ’s worst political prostitute; a trougher of the highest order; and a man utterly bereft of principle. Unfortunately I never got the chance to do more than take the first few steps.

    If Whale’s motivation was the same as mine – and I believe it was – then he succeeded admirably. I agree Williams did a far better job than anyone else in bringing about his own demise, but one can hardly blame Whale for that :-D

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  30. Dexter (277 comments) says:

    Tom do you even live on the Shore? Your impassioned but completely misguided effort in defending Williams makes me think that you don’t. His behavior has been going on for years now and it has been utterly appalling, his polling has nothing to do with any character assassination but rather voters seeing him for what he is and voting accordingly.

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  31. Whaleoil (766 comments) says:

    What Rex said…100% correct.

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  32. Cactus Kate (549 comments) says:

    Here is the top polling candidate in Albany which really says it all about the Auckland elections.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10679678

    “Mr Goudie says his style is “just being a quiet worker, keeping my community informed”. His election campaign deliberately left out promises, “just offering to fight for what the people want”. ”

    Michael Goudie appears to have been the first NZ politician to win an election without any promises at all. Such a novel campaigning style should be replicated everywhere in NZ, it sums up the mood of the country.

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  33. Inventory2 (10,161 comments) says:

    Is Tom Gould actually Andrew Williams? After reading how Wellington councillor Rob Goulden used different identities to ask himself questions in cyberspace, one can’t help but wonder …

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  34. Whaleoil (766 comments) says:

    I think Tom Gould is Williams, he even uses the same wordsh

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  35. John Gibson (295 comments) says:

    Tom Gould – “Marshall’s nasty little attack piece on Williams, with tame quotes from some loser local former city councillor, quickly posted on this and other right wing blogs, shows their character assassination formula in plain operation.”

    Its a good question. It does rather look like putting the boot in when the man is already down. I guess there could be money to be made in running attack campaigns for ambitious clients.

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  36. John Gibson (295 comments) says:

    Inventory2 – After reading how Wellington councillor Rob Goulden used different identities to ask himself questions in cyberspace, one can’t help but wonder …”

    You know that Pete George and Redbaiter are the same person ?

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  37. Tom Gould (141 comments) says:

    Whaleoil, must be tough being utterly humiliated at the polls with only a 1000-odd votes? Maybe try standing in your own ward next time? Well, I guess it’s back to the couch for you, to count the welfare cheques. The rest of us will get up in the morning and go earn an honest living doing a fair day’s work. Truthfully, if I lived in the Albany Ward, I might even have voted for you so you can start doing the same.

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  38. ttibbs (22 comments) says:

    The elections were a real triumph for the Slaters. Big Daddy’s C&R fell apart and little cameron only managed 17th out of 19 candidates. That’s a perforamce Boag would be proud of.

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  39. John Gibson (295 comments) says:

    Andrew Williams was only a test run for the ‘covert ops’ that Gotcha! is offering. If Chris Carter had engaged Slater’s services rather trying a DIY approach he would never have fallen off his horse.

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  40. Megatron (187 comments) says:

    That makes Andrew Williams a squatter?

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  41. Rex Widerstrom (5,307 comments) says:

    John Gibson suggests:

    If Chris Carter had engaged Slater’s services rather trying a DIY approach he would never have fallen off his horse.

    Hold on… you’re accusing Whaleoil… of greater subtlety?!?! :-D

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  42. jaba (2,091 comments) says:

    did the Whale get over 1,000 votes in a ward where he doesn’t live and made it plain he was only standing to highlight the failings of the incumbent Mayor .. what an incredible result WO.

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  43. John Gibson (295 comments) says:

    Rex – Slater has been playing a cunning game. He got kicked out of the National Party so that when he runs ‘black ops’ for them next election he will offer his political clients plausible deniability. With his contacts in the PR industry he will secure juicy contracts to take out opponents. As he has admitted the Williams take down was a proof of concept.

    A very clever idea.

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  44. bhudson (4,736 comments) says:

    John,

    You are either taking the mickey (and I don’t mean savage) or you are trying to be elected onto the redbaiter party ticket.

    Either is not a great look

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  45. John Gibson (295 comments) says:

    bhudson – I believe the Redbaiter part is called the Rabbit Crusaders :-)

    Given that Slaters blog does not offer the kind of content that advertisers wish to be associated with it would hardly be a surprise if alternative income streams were sought.

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  46. Clint Heine (1,568 comments) says:

    Ttibs/John Gibson/Tom Gould… etc… good grief. Either you were not following the campaign or you are Williams apologists, but in all fairness the entire campaign was there to give Williams exactly what he deserved. He was a cheap drunk wasting ratepayers money on getting liquored up. He abused people via drunken email and spent his entire time in office angry at others.

    And you wanted him elected? Give Whale a bloody medal, he has done Auckland a great service exposing Williams.

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  47. James (1,338 comments) says:

    ……and his sterling work dropkicking Winnie in the slats is not forgotten either. ;-0

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  48. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    Getting the result you desire doesn’t make you the cause of that result.

    Unless you’re a wool blind egomaniac.

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  49. orewa1 (428 comments) says:

    Perhaps the reality is that Slater’s campaign against Williams was a factor in Banks’ demise? Kiwis dont appreciate charatcer assassination.

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