Inmates no mates
October 23rd, 2010 at 11:00 am by David FarrarFrom the Herald political diary:
Political correctness is still alive and well in the Labour Party. In a remit relating to Labour’s prisons policy, the word “inmates” was changed to the more anonymous “people”.
Was it because mates implies males?
October 23rd, 2010 at 11:10 am
How about “inperson” or was that a step too far. Prisoner leaves nothing to chance and is gender and race neutral. Using the term “person” means we are all tarred with that brush.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 11:14 am
Inmate – Archaic . a person who dwells with others in the same house.
Oh no, I’m an inmate in my own home. Surrounded by children, it often feels like ‘home detention’
Or perhaps they felt that the term ‘inmate’ would attach a stigma to the ‘people’ that might threaten their efforts at rehabilitation.
They are excruciating
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 11:27 am
Could always go with the original WINZ “customer” label. Guest?
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 11:41 am
The term In-Mate has to be discouraged since double bunking was brought in.
Vote:I understand they have been tossing around various terms and in line with the in training for reform aspect and intending to call them “Students” once they have finalised the student loan aspect.
October 23rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Has the word “criminal” gone out of fashion or is it because it encompasses the broad spectrum of the labour party and therefore confuses?
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
No its nothing to do with ‘mate’. Its because the word ‘inmate’ denotes punishment and the PC brigade don’t want any ‘punishing’ of criminals. They don’t mind punishing producers, workers and contributors through their fuckwit schemes and taxation, but heaven forbid that prisons are places of punishment. No no… these ‘people’ are there solely to be rehabilitated and punishment is not part of the PC equation. Read up on the ‘philosophy’ of prisons in NZ and it will show you how far the rot has gone.
Oh, and don’t think the Labour party is alone in this. The National socialists will probably adopt their madness like all the other madness they have enthusiastically borrowed from the previous government.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Surely the term should reflect prisoners’ accommodation and comfort levels offered and become “honoured guests”.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Easy answer – it pays not to denigrate large sections of one’s voter base
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Given that it costs as much to put someone up at a Heritage Hotel with cooked breakfast daily as keep them in a maximum security prison, this comment is pretty much spot on. Fewer people needing to be put behind bars would be a very good thing for the taxpayer. Keeping young people productive in society and the economy instead of going off the rails would be a huge advantage for NZ. They would add to our financial base instead of detracting from it.
Actually freemarket Chicago School economics and currency speculators has damaged NZ producers, workers and contributors. Did you not notice NZ industry shutting down throughout the 80′s and 90′s (thanks to both Labour and National) and our farmers getting cut down everytime our highly speculated dollar went up by a single cent.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Maybe they should go with “freedom challenged” ?
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
‘Crims’ is so much easier and wastes less ink.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
its like ” corrections” which was changed from Justice…all wishy washy double talk from irrelevant PC dribble dicks who much like an old dog turd should just dry up and blow away in the wind….
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
“Fewer people needing to be put behind bars would be a very good thing for the taxpayer.”
Well state the bleeding obvious why don’t you Viper?
Perhaps this change could be initiated by those otherwise inclined choosing not to commit crimes.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Ahhhh… the usual renaissance men of Kiwiblog sharing their enlightened attitudes on crime and criminals. Thought so.
FWIW, I think Labour are bloody stupid. The people whose sensitivities they’re trying to protect – the inmates of our jails – will be laughing at them over their morning cereal, watery milk, no fruit or other toppings, 15 minutes to eat it then marched off to work in the laundry. At least that’s what I got in jail. Maybe I wasn’t an “honoured guest” *rolls eyes*
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Perhaps their victims should have a say. Many of these people have dozens of victims sometimes hundreds.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 12:58 pm
What a load of codswallop! Who drives this pc crap?
Vote:If we reintroduced the death penalty we could call them “targets”, or better yet “dead weights”.
October 23rd, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Surely both sexes MATE or have I missed something?
Usual Labour Party crap – I thought KlarkSimpson had gone, but obviously not. Where is Goofy’s “new world” Labour?
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Reading this, you would have to say that Phil Goff must be a eunuch.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 1:15 pm
will be laughing at them over their morning cereal, watery milk, no fruit or other toppings, 15 minutes to eat it then marched off to work in the laundry
..aw you make it sound like such a bad place Rex….. watery milk..no fruit..no toppings.. and then off to work in the laundry..
Vote:…cry me a fucking river pleeeease !
October 23rd, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Rex
………………….. morning cereal, watery milk, no fruit or other toppings, 15 minutes to eat it …………………….
You lucky lucky bastard Rex, I dream of having 15 minutes to be able to eat my breakfast, ahhh the good old days
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 3:28 pm
What about ” in house clients”, i thought everyone was referred to as a client these days.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 3:49 pm
It’s not ‘crime’ anymore, but SIPS (Social Injustice and Post-colonialism Syndrome).
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 4:54 pm
I looked up the pc dictionary and it says:
“Correctional facility client”
Isn’t that nice. It’s so cuddly and warm and special.
Awwwwwwwwwwwww.
It’s a wonderful, wonderful world.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 5:36 pm
No starboard, just a bleak place with bad food and hard work. As it should be. Just not the luxury hotel that bullshit like “honoured guests” (from people who’ve clearly never done time) make it out to be.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 5:48 pm
The change to this remit it wasn’t about being PC. The changes occurred to widen the purpose of the remit from focusing each part only on certain people to in general. Certainly nothing to do with being male. “Prison Officers” was also changed to “in prisons” with the same amendment.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Oh come on! We all know Labour more likely regards them as “clients”.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 5:59 pm
@Jimbob
You just made me realise something
In all the years and decades Phil Goff has been in the public light I have never seen his wife. Absolutely never.
Does anyone even know her name???
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 6:05 pm
@Wiri her name is Mary and she is on some of the propaganda but doesn’t appear on TV, she prefers to stay in the crowd watching.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 6:06 pm
A full profile of his wife here wikiriwhis:
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October 23rd, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Hint: The lovely lady at 2.25 is called “Helen”.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Sigh…..Rex still thinks we should be cuddling criminals instead of punishing them.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Who cuddled Rex when he was inside?
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Me:
big bruv:
Having a bit of a problem with reading comprehension today, BB? Hint: a bleak place with bad food, hard work and lots of cuddles isn’t what I’m advocating above.
Johnboy:
I didn’t get to a prison farm, so can’t swap stories of the kind of amorous jailhouse affairs that would no doubt interest you
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
A fine flock of sheep they have at Rangipo I hear Rex.
I jest of course.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 6:36 pm
It is interesting, Recent Comments, to see you Johnboy flit here and there with the petites grenades à main verbales
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Ah mon cher Yvette. On doit toujours sauver ceux la plus grande arme pour elle qui l’appréciera plus.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Ah – vous obtenez Johnboy plus ancien mais aucun moins d’un vaurien
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Beaucoup un bon baaah a joué sur un vieux violon Yvette.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 7:14 pm
English! Johnboy, too much en Français pisses people off. And we are probably off-thread is it.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Perhaps we should get a room?
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Not here under “inmates_no_mates”
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 7:25 pm
The only suitable alternative thread seems to be ” Well done Herald”.
I can live with that.
Vote:October 23rd, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Yvette, if you intend meeting up with Johnboy, can I suggest a discreet splash of mint sauce behind both ears? From what I hear, it gets him going
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