Inmates no mates

October 23rd, 2010 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

From the Herald political diary:

is still alive and well in the Party. In a remit relating to ’s prisons policy, the word “inmates” was changed to the more anonymous “people”.

Was it because mates implies males?

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43 Responses to “Inmates no mates”

  1. tvb (4,210 comments) says:

    How about “inperson” or was that a step too far. Prisoner leaves nothing to chance and is gender and race neutral. Using the term “person” means we are all tarred with that brush.

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  2. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    Inmate – Archaic . a person who dwells with others in the same house.

    Oh no, I’m an inmate in my own home. Surrounded by children, it often feels like ‘home detention’

    Or perhaps they felt that the term ‘inmate’ would attach a stigma to the ‘people’ that might threaten their efforts at rehabilitation.

    They are excruciating

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  3. adze (1,869 comments) says:

    Could always go with the original WINZ “customer” label. Guest?

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  4. Buaidh No Bars (17 comments) says:

    The term In-Mate has to be discouraged since double bunking was brought in.
    I understand they have been tossing around various terms and in line with the in training for reform aspect and intending to call them “Students” once they have finalised the student loan aspect.

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  5. Nookin (3,037 comments) says:

    Has the word “criminal” gone out of fashion or is it because it encompasses the broad spectrum of the labour party and therefore confuses?

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  6. Dave Mann (1,169 comments) says:

    No its nothing to do with ‘mate’. Its because the word ‘inmate’ denotes punishment and the PC brigade don’t want any ‘punishing’ of criminals. They don’t mind punishing producers, workers and contributors through their fuckwit schemes and taxation, but heaven forbid that prisons are places of punishment. No no… these ‘people’ are there solely to be rehabilitated and punishment is not part of the PC equation. Read up on the ‘philosophy’ of prisons in NZ and it will show you how far the rot has gone.

    Oh, and don’t think the Labour party is alone in this. The National socialists will probably adopt their madness like all the other madness they have enthusiastically borrowed from the previous government.

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  7. MT_Tinman (2,993 comments) says:

    Surely the term should reflect prisoners’ accommodation and comfort levels offered and become “honoured guests”.

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  8. dion (95 comments) says:

    Easy answer – it pays not to denigrate large sections of one’s voter base :-)

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  9. Viper Mk II (54 comments) says:

    Surely the term should reflect prisoners’ accommodation and comfort levels offered and become “honoured guests”.

    Given that it costs as much to put someone up at a Heritage Hotel with cooked breakfast daily as keep them in a maximum security prison, this comment is pretty much spot on. Fewer people needing to be put behind bars would be a very good thing for the taxpayer. Keeping young people productive in society and the economy instead of going off the rails would be a huge advantage for NZ. They would add to our financial base instead of detracting from it.

    They don’t mind punishing producers, workers and contributors through their fuckwit schemes and taxation

    Actually freemarket Chicago School economics and currency speculators has damaged NZ producers, workers and contributors. Did you not notice NZ industry shutting down throughout the 80′s and 90′s (thanks to both Labour and National) and our farmers getting cut down everytime our highly speculated dollar went up by a single cent.

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  10. Roflcopter (427 comments) says:

    Maybe they should go with “freedom challenged” ?

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  11. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,797 comments) says:

    ‘Crims’ is so much easier and wastes less ink.

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  12. starboard (2,475 comments) says:

    its like ” corrections” which was changed from Justice…all wishy washy double talk from irrelevant PC dribble dicks who much like an old dog turd should just dry up and blow away in the wind….

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  13. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    “Fewer people needing to be put behind bars would be a very good thing for the taxpayer.”

    Well state the bleeding obvious why don’t you Viper?

    Perhaps this change could be initiated by those otherwise inclined choosing not to commit crimes.

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  14. Rex Widerstrom (5,274 comments) says:

    Ahhhh… the usual renaissance men of Kiwiblog sharing their enlightened attitudes on crime and criminals. Thought so.

    FWIW, I think Labour are bloody stupid. The people whose sensitivities they’re trying to protect – the inmates of our jails – will be laughing at them over their morning cereal, watery milk, no fruit or other toppings, 15 minutes to eat it then marched off to work in the laundry. At least that’s what I got in jail. Maybe I wasn’t an “honoured guest” *rolls eyes*

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  15. tvb (4,210 comments) says:

    Perhaps their victims should have a say. Many of these people have dozens of victims sometimes hundreds.

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  16. Kris K (3,570 comments) says:

    What a load of codswallop! Who drives this pc crap?
    If we reintroduced the death penalty we could call them “targets”, or better yet “dead weights”.

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  17. Paulus (2,503 comments) says:

    Surely both sexes MATE or have I missed something?

    Usual Labour Party crap – I thought KlarkSimpson had gone, but obviously not. Where is Goofy’s “new world” Labour?

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  18. Jimbob (640 comments) says:

    Reading this, you would have to say that Phil Goff must be a eunuch.

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  19. starboard (2,475 comments) says:

    will be laughing at them over their morning cereal, watery milk, no fruit or other toppings, 15 minutes to eat it then marched off to work in the laundry

    ..aw you make it sound like such a bad place Rex….. watery milk..no fruit..no toppings.. and then off to work in the laundry..
    …cry me a fucking river pleeeease !

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  20. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Rex
    ………………….. morning cereal, watery milk, no fruit or other toppings, 15 minutes to eat it …………………….

    You lucky lucky bastard Rex, I dream of having 15 minutes to be able to eat my breakfast, ahhh the good old days

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  21. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    What about ” in house clients”, i thought everyone was referred to as a client these days.

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  22. Magnanomis (138 comments) says:

    It’s not ‘crime’ anymore, but SIPS (Social Injustice and Post-colonialism Syndrome).

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  23. reid (15,954 comments) says:

    I looked up the pc dictionary and it says:

    “Correctional facility client”

    Isn’t that nice. It’s so cuddly and warm and special.

    Awwwwwwwwwwwww.

    It’s a wonderful, wonderful world.

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  24. Rex Widerstrom (5,274 comments) says:

    No starboard, just a bleak place with bad food and hard work. As it should be. Just not the luxury hotel that bullshit like “honoured guests” (from people who’ve clearly never done time) make it out to be.

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  25. robcarr (132 comments) says:

    The change to this remit it wasn’t about being PC. The changes occurred to widen the purpose of the remit from focusing each part only on certain people to in general. Certainly nothing to do with being male. “Prison Officers” was also changed to “in prisons” with the same amendment.

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  26. Rich Prick (1,554 comments) says:

    Oh come on! We all know Labour more likely regards them as “clients”.

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  27. wikiriwhis business (3,883 comments) says:

    @Jimbob

    You just made me realise something

    In all the years and decades Phil Goff has been in the public light I have never seen his wife. Absolutely never.

    Does anyone even know her name???

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  28. robcarr (132 comments) says:

    @Wiri her name is Mary and she is on some of the propaganda but doesn’t appear on TV, she prefers to stay in the crowd watching.

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  29. Johnboy (14,998 comments) says:

    A full profile of his wife here wikiriwhis:

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  30. Johnboy (14,998 comments) says:

    Hint: The lovely lady at 2.25 is called “Helen”. :)

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  31. big bruv (13,314 comments) says:

    Sigh…..Rex still thinks we should be cuddling criminals instead of punishing them.

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  32. Johnboy (14,998 comments) says:

    Who cuddled Rex when he was inside? :)

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  33. Rex Widerstrom (5,274 comments) says:

    Me:

    a bleak place with bad food and hard work. As it should be.

    big bruv:

    Rex still thinks we should be cuddling criminals instead of punishing them.

    Having a bit of a problem with reading comprehension today, BB? Hint: a bleak place with bad food, hard work and lots of cuddles isn’t what I’m advocating above.

    Johnboy:

    I didn’t get to a prison farm, so can’t swap stories of the kind of amorous jailhouse affairs that would no doubt interest you :-P

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  34. Johnboy (14,998 comments) says:

    A fine flock of sheep they have at Rangipo I hear Rex. :)

    I jest of course.

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  35. Yvette (2,692 comments) says:

    It is interesting, Recent Comments, to see you Johnboy flit here and there with the petites grenades à main verbales :)

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  36. Johnboy (14,998 comments) says:

    Ah mon cher Yvette. On doit toujours sauver ceux la plus grande arme pour elle qui l’appréciera plus. :)

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  37. Yvette (2,692 comments) says:

    Ah – vous obtenez Johnboy plus ancien mais aucun moins d’un vaurien

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  38. Johnboy (14,998 comments) says:

    Beaucoup un bon baaah a joué sur un vieux violon Yvette. :)

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  39. Yvette (2,692 comments) says:

    English! Johnboy, too much en Français pisses people off. And we are probably off-thread is it.

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  40. Johnboy (14,998 comments) says:

    Perhaps we should get a room?

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  41. Yvette (2,692 comments) says:

    Not here under “inmates_no_mates”

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  42. Johnboy (14,998 comments) says:

    The only suitable alternative thread seems to be ” Well done Herald”.

    I can live with that. :)

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  43. Rex Widerstrom (5,274 comments) says:

    Yvette, if you intend meeting up with Johnboy, can I suggest a discreet splash of mint sauce behind both ears? From what I hear, it gets him going :-D

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