McCarten deluded

October 31st, 2010 at 9:48 am by David Farrar

I don’t agree with much but normally his columns are honest opinion. I really can’t say that about today’s HOS column:

The NZ Actors’ Equity has been trying forever to reach agreement on basic conditions for actors from New Zealand film producers. Jackson point blank has refused to even meet.

As that is the role of SPADA, not Peter Jackson. Even the media understand this now.

Also NZAE do not represent most actors. Despite that SPADA had been trying to meet with them for the last 18 months.

To get Jackson’s attention, the union wrote to their counterparts around the world asking for support, up to and including a possible boycott of Jackson’s next film.

Not a “possible” boycott”. There was a boycott. It was voted on in June and remained in place until mid October.

But here’s some good news. NZ screen producers have agreed to meet Equity to negotiate standard terms and conditions for actors.

In the meantime, they will use the internationally union-approved Pink Book as the minimum basis for performers’ contracts.

This is a huge victory for Equity.

A huge victory? Jesus Matt – you are in another dimension on this one. This “huge victory” is what SPADA tried to get them to do 18 months ago. Equity has been refusing. Claiming this as a victory is like Germany claiming the Treaty of Versailles as a victory.

Is Andrew Little the only union leader honest enough to admit that Equity screwed up massively? It seems so.

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44 Responses to “McCarten deluded”

  1. Nookin (3,258 comments) says:

    So why let facts get in the way of a good theory.

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  2. s.russell (1,589 comments) says:

    The left, and the unionists do not want to admit to their supporters that they have stuffed up, so they resort to the standard tactic of rewriting history and repeating their distortions as often and as loudly as possible.

    Most people won’t swallow it, but the mindless left/unionists who are predisposed to believe whatever the left says will prefer to swallow this than admit they’ve been duped.

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  3. si_rangi (60 comments) says:

    Any publicity is good publicity…

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  4. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Matt’s candidacy in Mana & his recent interview on Radio NZ are similarly baffling

    http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/ideas/ideas-20101017-1110-Ideas_for_17_October_2010-048.mp3

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  5. adze (2,059 comments) says:

    It’s really sad there’s a lack of any insight and sense of responsibility among unionists. It doesn’t make me respect them any more; the opposite, in fact.

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  6. tvb (4,313 comments) says:

    Matt is in political mode now. He has to find a point of difference with the Labour Party.

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  7. Scumsucker (59 comments) says:

    What a nasty man Mamamat MamamaCarten is.

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  8. Scumsucker (59 comments) says:

    I bet his mum still has the afterbirth in her freezer though.

    Ouch.

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  9. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    I thought I heard Matt M and the big ” C” and was reasonably crook.

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  10. tvb (4,313 comments) says:

    Matt is the after birth.

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  11. ciaron (1,415 comments) says:

    Matt is the after birth.

    that’s a bit off…

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  12. Jack5 (5,005 comments) says:

    IMHO, here’s the best piece yet on what lay behind the Hobbit upheaval – the surge in the kiwi dollar, the dive in the USD and the turmoil in the world currency markets.

    Hickey is on target this time.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10684187

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  13. adze (2,059 comments) says:

    I don’t think Hickey is suggesting the debacle was caused by a strengthening Kiwi – only that the PM was right to intervene to preserve our competitiveness in this sector.

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  14. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    Macacacacarten is toast.
    The poor unionist doesn’t have a hope in hell of winning Mana, so let venting his spleen and spew his bile blaming the rest of the world.

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  15. Jack5 (5,005 comments) says:

    Re Adze at 1.07:

    I didn’t say that Hickey was suggesting the debacle was caused by the strengthening kiwi. I said it was the best piece (IMHO, of course) of what lay behind the Hobbit approval. Hickey was setting the international financial background.

    Yes Hickey did approve of Key’s leftist subsidies in this case, but he was also saying that the surge in the kiwi dollar – or the dive in the US dollar – was the background to Warner’s urgency to wring more out of NZ in dirigiste support.

    Hickey’s is a very good background piece on the Hobbit debacle, though I don’t agree with his view that Key was correct in picking out the film industry for special fiscal support.

    The world currency turmoil as it applies to the NZ dollar is going to see other export industries come under tremendous pressure, if Hickey is right. Let’s see whether Key bails them out as he has bailed out the film industry.

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  16. Inventory2 (10,262 comments) says:

    Manolo; of course McCarten has no show of winning Mana. He is only standing to claim the far left ground, and to stop Labour trying to reclaim it. His sole aim will be to discredit Goff, wound Faafoi, and sow the seeds for Andrew Little to become Labour Party leader immediately after Labour is defeated in 2011.

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  17. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    I have a good lefty mate that is spewing because Shonkey put the boot in and changed employment law for the yanks. Now this guy is very bright but talk about pig ignorant. I politely pointed out the unions had no good faith and came to the bargaining table with blackmail on their minds. As such they drew first blood and are now crying foul because it has all turned to a big barrel of shit. There must be something in the lefty mind that refuses to believe the left can do no wrong. Shonkey is now the devil reincarnated because he has ceded sovereignty to the yanks. I gave up and went to the top shelf.

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  18. Inventory2 (10,262 comments) says:

    “Ceded sovereignty” is the 2010 version of “chinless scarf-wearers” ;-)

    It will be the lie that the left repeats over, and over and over …

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  19. adze (2,059 comments) says:

    The irony is that leftists tend to have an internationalist outlook… kind of incongruous that they play the independence angle.

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  20. Inventory2 (10,262 comments) says:

    Good point Adze; didn’t NZAE cede sovereignty to the MEAA, and then to the international actor unions?

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  21. adze (2,059 comments) says:

    My thoughts exactly I2, though they deny it.

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  22. jaba (2,118 comments) says:

    the “Ceded sovereignty” claim is already boring .. when I read Matt Mc’s colume I almost chocked .. the older he gets, the more deluded he is becoming. His performance on Q&A was fairly aggressive and he seems to be getting in as many public performances he can until he is forced to retire for his health issues.

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  23. TripeWryter (715 comments) says:

    I read this piece at 5.30 this morning. It seemed like an attempt to rewrite history.

    It does make you wonder what sort of editorial control is applied to columnists. Presumably they’re given free range to express whatever opinion they hold, and that’s fine.

    But you would think, wouldn’t you, that an editor would expect people he is paying to write for him to have regard for facts.

    Otherwise, as in this case, you’re being an accomplice to the printing of lies.

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  24. Jimbob (641 comments) says:

    The currency issue raised by Mr. Hickey is a bit of a red herring. All currencies are strenghtening against the greenback, at THE MOMENT. I have read some research that says the US dollar is near a bottom and will strenghten when the second phase of the global financial crisis hits. Mr. Hickey may be right in time, but this horror movie has only just begun. Remember all of these figures banded around is real money and has to be paid back, when the lender asks for his or her money back, you have to pay. Greece has found this out first, it is not the only country that has come under scrutiny, you just do not want it to be you. Next week is the big week for the US, with the mid term elections and Bernanke’s big bang. It will be interesting to watch.

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  25. calendar girl (1,213 comments) says:

    Scumsucker @ 11.25am and Manolo @ 1.16pm:

    McCarten is not my favourite politician either, but a person does himself little credit by attempting to make fun of McCarten’s speech impediment.

    I respect the guy for having the courage to speak in public knowing that there will always be clowns who resort to ad hominem forms of “debate”.

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  26. reid (16,183 comments) says:

    “There must be something in the lefty mind that refuses to believe the left can do no wrong.”

    Possibly the same thing in the conservative mind that refuses to believe e.g. Israel can do no wrong or that free-market policies are always appropriate in every case no matter what.

    Regardless of what it actually is, it’s most unhelpful, whenever it rears its head.

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  27. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    McCarten is right when he says:

    “Many of us remember Jackson as that tubby, geeky guy in baggy shorts and big glasses who endeared himself as a self-effacing movie buff who became an international household name because of his talent. We revelled in his fame and even gave him a knighthood.”

    Since Jackson’s weight loss operation, he seems to be half the man he was, in more ways than one.

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  28. burt (8,183 comments) says:

    McCarten has clearly had some recent coaching from Trotter.

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  29. gravedodger (1,545 comments) says:

    If MMcCCarten is going to use disparaging comments about the previous Peter Jackson now Sir Peter, then taking the piss re his speach imppeddiment is a reasonable rrrressponse. It is hard to characterise Matt without using that angle as his politics are completely North Korean Grey, just like K Locke et el.

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  30. calendar girl (1,213 comments) says:

    Very droll, gravedodger.

    But why do you feel the need to characterise McCarten using any angle – let alone one focused on his personal disability? If you want to dispute his facts or argue against his point of view, do just that. There’s no need to use gutter debating tactics.

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  31. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Calander Girl

    The question would be , who voted you sheriff?

    You are perfectly welcome to set up your own forum and lay down all the rules in the world to poor old GD, although he appears perfectly capable of taking care of himself. I hope I am not be agest here ? I can sense a school teacher about

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  32. Viking2 (11,340 comments) says:

    Hobbit meeting in Auckland

    Sunday, 31, Oct, 2010 3:35PM

    Three parties have met today in Auckland following the dispute over The Hobbit.

    Actors’ Equity has met with the Council of Trade Unions and the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union.

    The unions have talked about how a process agreed with the Screen Production and Development Association can be used to achieve a voice for performers in the industry.

    The CTU says from the outset, its objectives were to support the actors’ legitimate demands and to ensure The Hobbit films were made in New Zealand.

    Spokeswoman Helen Kelly says the goal now is to make sure the settlement builds the capacity of Actors’ Equity.

    She says it needs to result in an enduring process for performers to have a say on their terms and conditions.

    OF course. Bahhahahahahahahahahahah. What plonkers these crap heads really are, but they will never give up for they would then have to concede they are dinosaurs and then they just might have to go do some useful work.
    And It will be a rainy day in hell first.

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  33. trout (932 comments) says:

    In case you have not seen it – the new Tui ad at Ellerslie;
    ‘One Union to rule them all’ – Yeah Right

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  34. Offshore_Kiwi (557 comments) says:

    File this one under : meh, lying leftie union scum tries to rewrite history. Another day, another leftie lie.

    What I don’t get is why the unions chose The Hobbit as their target in the first place? AFAIK the “talent” on The Hobbit is getting better money than any kiwi-made movie in history (plus residuals, for the first time ever). Did they just think Jackson and Warners would just roll over and rewrite the pink book? Fucktards.

    Regardless of how the unions, their political wing, their propaganda wing or the other useful idiots try to spin this, it is a massive FAIL on all counts, and even the dimwitted sheeple of New Zealand see it for what it is.

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  35. adc (588 comments) says:

    I thought it was typical communist SOP. If the truth / reality doesn’t fit with your ideology, claim the reality is the exact opposite of what it actually is.

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  36. Kimble (4,443 comments) says:

    “Let’s see whether Key bails them out as he has bailed out the film industry.”

    Lets see whether any other unions representing a tiny minority decide to shove a grenade down the throat of their own industry.

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  37. kiwi in america (2,495 comments) says:

    McCarten is no fool. He knows in his heart that which Little publicly spoke (and of course Trotter inadvertantly came around to admitting) is the truth and that is the Hobbit fiasco has been one long glorious clusterfark for the union movement.

    McCarten though is a card carrying lefty and in the left’s world realpolitik is a governing overarching sentiment – the ends justifies the means. So when the truth gets in the way of the unions’ goals then the truth is thrown under the bus. McCarten is trying to outflank Labour on the left in Mana and pre-empt the Greens so this was a class warrior sabre rattling piece to consolidate the left wing vote. If he can collapse the Green vote and pick off the left flank of Labour, he could seriously dent Faafoi’s majority. Mana is too deep red Labour for National to win but this split on the left will work in Parata’s favour.

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  38. calendar girl (1,213 comments) says:

    PaulEB: I’m not a school teacher, just a normal person who doesn’t like people being taunted on the basis of their personal or physical afflictions. You defend the practice if you like, Paul. Very civilised, I’m sure.

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  39. BeaB (2,104 comments) says:

    calendar girl Your attitude is OK when we are talking about kids but if McCarten himself takes a poke at Peter Jackson’s appearance and the Left and journalists helpfully point out Key’s speech mannerisms, why shouldn’t McCarten’s stutter be part of the fun.
    I get tired of adults whining on about being ‘bullied’ and ‘intimidated’. Or is it just the younger generation wanting to stay children forever?

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  40. burt (8,183 comments) says:

    BeaB

    It’s socialists that want to stay children forever and there is a good reason for that; The socialist ideology can only be sold and explained via a story starting with…

    Once upon a time…

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  41. tvb (4,313 comments) says:

    The Unions are not wanted in the film production industry as these are highly skilled people who do not want representation from people who think they are preventing children from being used as chimney sweeps and picking cotton.

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  42. tvb (4,313 comments) says:

    And another thing workers do not want representation from people who are running a political agenda and ignoring their bread and butter issues.

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  43. calendar girl (1,213 comments) says:

    BeaB

    You’re the 4th person here using or applauding cheap personal attacks on McCarten in relation to his unfortunate stutter. It’s sad that you are not up to countering his incorrect facts and misleading arguments using legitimate debating tools.

    Have it your own way if you must, but at least recognise what you’re doing to what was once civilised discourse in this country. Oh, and also the crass example that you are setting for those kids whose welfare you claim to care about.

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  44. ephemera (564 comments) says:

    BeaB, your rationalization for mocking McCarten’s speech defect amounts to

    “But Miss, they started it”.

    Debate the issues properly or act like a child. You can’t have it both ways, though, and accuse others of something as deplorable as what you have been doing.

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