He gave a good little demonstration of faux outrage in the house today when ACT asked the Attorney general about public access to the beaches.

I think Porno Jones might have even called Hilary Calvert a racist.

You will know when you are on white owned foreshore, the visiting owners will charge for people to go on it.

“Crap….ACT will take Epsom because National needs them to.”

Not if they can’t provide the right with extra list seats. The last two Roy Morgans have ACT at 0.5% and 1%. These numbers would not earn ACT any extra list seats if Hide holds Epsom, therefore there is no incentive for National.

What a moron you are – I’m born and bred from the Bay of Plenty.

If you were you would know that when Maori sold foreshore to the pakeha in the 1800s

So you admit Maori sold it – therefore have no right to title customary or otherwise?

and noticed pakeha rushing down to put it into fee simple a lot of iwi tried to do the same with their foreshore and land only to be told that right was for pakeha only.

Funny, all the times I have been to the beach I have never been charged for it….. Must only be going to Maori beaches that you guys sold eh?

You will have to do a bit of study on NZ if you are going to be visiting for any time dear boy.

Sounds like you just made a right arse of yourself.

How do explain the huge Labour party vote in all Maori electorates? The punters obviously think there’s a logical link there….

The MMP referendum should include a question on abolishing the colonial era,anachronistic Maori seats. That would be democratic.

Amen to that, Kowtow.
And while we’re at it any thought regarding the introduction of equally racist seats on the Auckland super city council should be nipped in the bud as well.

The racist Maori Party are little more than prostitutes who are prepared to sell their wares to the highest bidder in return for racist legislation they wish to push through parliament. They will happily prostitute themselves to either National or Labour. Man, have we GOT TO get rid of MMP in conjunction with all the greasy shysters who slip in under the unaccountable Party List vote. We have got to get parliament back to a state where they are accountable to the electorate – where EVERY SINGLE ONE of them are voted in directly by the people, and must answer directly to the people. Anything would be better than the current MMP system which only encourages and fosters lies, deceit, and misrepresentation.

Pakeha cannot charge entry if they have Customary title, and neither can Maori.

Pakeha can charge entry if the have ownership of the land – and guess what! So can Maori!

This is not a case purely where Maori can’t, but Pakeha can. Its a case of the rights granted under Customary title vs full ownership.

In the medium to long term the Maori Party will be mainly in coalition with the Labour Party.

I’m not so sure about that. There are very strong strategic reasons for the Maori Party to prefer working with National.

* Labour and the Maori Party are direct competitors for votes. National and the Maori Party are not. Getting into bed with someone who wants to kill you is liable to shorten your life expectancy.
* Note that Labour has a history of destroying any minor party it works with.
* The credit for any achivements for Maori will always go to Labour in any Labour-Maori-Party alliance. But the credit will always go to the Maori Party in any National-Maori-Party alliance. (Note how well the party’s poll ratings are holding up). This is at least partly because Labour will want such credit, National will NOT want it.
* There is no point in the MP going with Labour because it will not get for Maori anything (much) that Labour would not have given anyway. The MP is thus rendered irrelevant and its existence threatened. But the MP can make a big difference in alliance with National – getting outcomes that would otherwise not occur – thus proving the MPs worth.

A lot of Maori are very sour on the double standards that some of the Maori party have agreed to over the foreshore,example, pakeha who own foreshore can charge for entry but Maori will not have the same rights for their foreshore.

A lot of us would prefer the foreshore to go to the crown, ALL OF IT, including that held in fee simple.
Yes, two wrongs do make a right at times.

[DPF: Oh yes the biggest land confiscation in history is just what NZ wants.]

In the medium to long term the Maori Party will be mainly in coalition with the Labour Party. ***

Then isn’t the total strategic blunder not abolishing ethnic based seats?

It doesn’t matter how much National needs Epsom to vote ACT it is up to the voters – this is called democracy.

Funny sort of ‘non-issue’ that results in an MP resigning.

As for voters ‘being highly intelligent etc ‘ you had better hope they aren’t because any voter that is highly intelligent isn’t going to vote for a dysfunctional, unprincipled party like ACT.

I doubt any tacit agreement existed. CLARK hated Tariana and I doubt that Labour could find any candidate with the mana of Turia or Sharples in their respective electorates.. It is more likely that Labour will offer Maori a bribe they can’t refuse. Indeed the recent local body elections demonstrated that outrageous promises by the Left easily defeated promises of continued fiscal responsibility by the Right. Expect more of the same at the General Election and quite likely a victory to a coalition of the power hungry.

ACT needs to position itself with a few new core issues ( justice/crime having been sorted to the point theres not a lot more to mine there especially with three strikes having passed) Issues like welfare abuse,tax,the ETS and the climate fraud will appeal to rightests while looking at drug and euthanasia reform and civil liberties will will appeal to the floating liberals.

I think National will have to do a deal with ACT to ensure they are back in Parliament

Shouldn’t they be focussing on doing a deal with us, the people? Then we may ensure they are back in Parliament. Or not.