A gracious victor

November 21st, 2010 at 9:40 pm by David Farrar

On tonight’s One News:

She’s trying to make herself feel better. She lost, and this is the second time the people of didn’t want her.

That was talking about .

Such a gracious victor.

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71 Responses to “A gracious victor”

  1. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Kris should get some urgent advice from Trev on tact & diplomacy.

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  2. Grizz (540 comments) says:

    Mana is a fractured electorate. A Large proportion wanted a National Candidate, whereas slightly more wanted a confabulating fool. To say that the People of Mana did not want Hekia is a bit of an overstatement. He could have said that he obviously had a lot of work to do to prove he was a worthy candidate so it will not be so close in a years time. But no, he took the result as graciously as any Labour Candidate would. No style. No class. Just bile and a spoonful of spite. Imagine if he lost, I have memories of Diane Yates dressing down her victor.

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  3. Jeremy Harris (323 comments) says:

    Looking forward to Faafoi’s maiden speech,

    “I remember when I slayed the Kraken, lead the third Crusade with Richard the Lionheart and destroyed the USSR – singlehanded and now I’m in Parliament I’ll save the world”…

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  4. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Jeremy, you overlooked to mention that Kris invented the internet ;)

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  5. rouppe (945 comments) says:

    Well you shouldn’t be too surprised David.

    1) During the live TVNZ7 event at the Sandbar, Labour folk shouted insults as soon as Hekia spoke with the aim of drowning out her message and preventing other people there from hearing what she had to say.

    2) During the campaigning in Porirua at the Mall a group of Unite and Young Labour activists also shouted and attempted to physically intimidate Hekia and JK, making it difficult for people who might have wanted to engage with them from doing so.

    3) Remember at the last election the Labour unionist taking a megaphone and swinging it at a dissenter?

    The Left hates anyone who disagrees with them. A dissenter is someone to be suppressed and who has no value. In Kris’s mind Hekia Parata is a valueless beast and his attitude betrays that clearly.

    The thing that continues to astound me is that people choose to be led by people like that. Have they not learned anything from all the Socialist regimes that have failed, even within their lifetimes…?

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  6. reid (16,111 comments) says:

    Faafoi to say that clearly indicates a distorted and mistaken sense of what’s happened in this election.

    Goody.

    I can see Kris as being an able first-lieutenant in Phil’s Army. Possibly the pick of the bunch.

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  7. Jeremy Harris (323 comments) says:

    Jeremy, you overlooked to mention that Kris invented the internet

    Well he better tell Shane Jones then, so he stops paying for porn with our tax dollars…

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  8. BeaB (2,084 comments) says:

    What unpleasant people some of these MPs turn out to be.

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  9. Rich Prick (1,635 comments) says:

    And his flock are no doubt thithed to the church, the party and the union (x2 given union donations to the Labour Party). Fuck that.

    He did “remember” being on the West Coast when some weather happened though.

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  10. Fletch (6,151 comments) says:

    He may have Mana, but he doesn’t have any mana.

    2. Mana that the people give you.

    This is the recognition that people give for your deeds and actions. Just because a person is born from great lines does not necessarily mean that they will have great mana amongst the people. The mana a person is born with sets them off, but the way that they conduct themselves throughout life will either strengthen their own personal mana, and by that the mana of their tupuna, or weaken their own personal mana.

    Humbleness is a very highly valued trait in the Maori world. Many of our great leaders are very humble people, hence part of their greatness. The people sing their praises, thereby heightening their mana. These great leaders you will never hear singing their own praises. It is not that they are trying to be humble, it is that they just are.

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  11. fatman43us (166 comments) says:

    So another cheap Socialist with attitude and an impossible name has been elected to the Opposition.

    Heigh Ho

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  12. Rich Prick (1,635 comments) says:

    fatman, he will be freash chicken in the Big House.

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  13. Pete George (23,345 comments) says:

    A product of the parliamentary gang system – before he even gets there.

    But it’s not restricted to there, the parties, the blogs and the population seem to operate on a “must win, destroy the enemy” basis.

    One day we may evolve into a civilised democracy, where the good of the people and the good of the country and the goodness of individuals are the priorities. Don’t know how, don’t know when.

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  14. ben (2,414 comments) says:

    I’ve met Kris, a genuinely nice guy and good to talk to. What the hell is he doing coming out with lines like this?

    [DPF: I have to say I was amazed when he said it on the news. I deemed it out of character also]

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  15. Rich Prick (1,635 comments) says:

    ben, he is a socialist, what more is to be expected when you mix it with a sense of entitlement? It will only get worse. I predict he will, if he lasts the general election, be at the centre of an expenses row.

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  16. s.russell (1,580 comments) says:

    Faafoi was terrified of losing.
    In the overwhelming relief of having scarped home, he lost his rag and lashed out at the cause of his terror.
    It’s just like those movie scenes where the hero (I’m not suggesting Faafoi qualifies for this epithet), having narrowly escaped death at the tentacles of the monster, and climbed out of the water, turns back and yells “Ha! Take that [insert name of monster]! Up yours fishface!”
    In some movies, that is the moment the monster leaps out of the sea and swallows said “hero” after all.
    In this case, the monster is the darkness of the soul, the hatred that lurks inside.
    And it has swallowed Faafoi whole.

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  17. kaya (1,360 comments) says:

    I remember watching that at the time and thinking it was a bit of a cheap, pathetic comment. Politicians eh?

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  18. starboard (2,492 comments) says:

    yeah I heard the comment as well…cheeky darky..who the fuck does he think he is..

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  19. Rex Widerstrom (5,330 comments) says:

    starboard asks:

    who the fuck does he think he is..

    A handpicked, anointed empty vessel who, provided he keeps selling out the very people stupid enough to vote for him (and apparently, according to comments at The Standard, that includes Greens voters who were so terrified of Parata winning they stabbed their own candidate in the back) now holds a job for life and will rise up the ranks.

    Given his background no one is better placed to know that he’s done better than winning the lottery… money and power. Can it be long before we’re referring to Taito Kris Fa’afoi, in honour of his myriad achievements on behalf of his people, just like the last guy on whom it was bestowed?

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  20. Shazzadude (522 comments) says:

    It doesn’t sound gracious, but the political reality is that both sides are trying to gain momentum from the result, and the way to do so for both parties is for Hekia Parata to make it clear she slashed the majority and that this is a reflection of the government’s performance, and for Fa’afoi to make it clear that he was the winner, and that this is an endorsement for him and Labour.

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  21. black paul (124 comments) says:

    Now I’m no fan of Faafoi, but if you want another example of a lack of grace you need look no further than your mates John Key and Hekia who reckon they won, kinda, even though they didn’t.

    Saying that privately is understandable given the result but to say it in public, to the media, just after you lose the race? WTF?

    There’s a graceful way to take a defeat. You congratulate the winner, you say you did your best and you’re pleased to get so far, and you say you’ll be back to fight again next time and win.

    But you DONT say you won, kinda, in a way. No fucken class, Key and Parata. Should know better.

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  22. tvb (4,255 comments) says:

    He has no class whatsoever. Hekia Parata has it in spades. If the Mana result is repeated throughout the Wellington Region Labour would lose every seat.

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  23. black paul (124 comments) says:

    Nothing classy about either of them tvb. Kris is a hollow brown shell from central casting and Hekia is a jumped-up cafe crawler who just looks like an arrogant sore loser claiming she won.

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  24. Atheist1 (174 comments) says:

    Maybe not gracious no, but this is politics. Nothing he said was inaccurate. And IMHO, far stranger and questionable behaviour to be celebrating when you lost. As Black Paul said above, that is pretty ungracious too when the “usual” modus operandi is to say well done to your opponent and emphasise you’ll be back to fight another day.

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  25. kiwi in america (2,477 comments) says:

    black paul, aside from reflecting the same tactless lack of grace as Faa’foi, you clearly have no clue about political history. It’s like National crowing that they won in 1993 when they blew the largest majority in NZ political history since Savage’s win in 1935 in the 1990 election and came within 2 seats (that they won by only a handful of votes) of losing. That near defeat led to the resignation of Ruth Richardson and the emasculation of the power of Bill Birch.

    For an encumbent government’s candidate to achieve a 14% swing in the 2 party vote in a byelection in a tradtionally very safe Opposition held seat in the middle of a recession has no parallel since the commencement of the 2 party era after the formation of the National Party in 1936. It is a very big deal. Traditionally the ruling party suffers a swing against it seeing its majorities reduced or even losing (Timaru 1986). For Labour to struggle to hold one of its safer seats when it is in Opposition, and ought to be able to showcase itself as an alternative government to National, shows in how little esteem the voters of Mana hold Labour and Goff. If I were Goff I’d be wondering exactly who was on Chris Carter’s list of 17.

    Faa’foi made these nasty comments in a quiet moment on the day after the election so it wasn’t a heat of the moment flush of victory comment. He and Labour’s team would have had a chance to absorb the impact of their poor showing and also read/view media commentary which has been mostly pretty dismissive of Labour’s showing so he will be smarting at all that and he showed his true colours with his mean spirited and churlish comment. Hekia Parata also oozes a perpetual upbeat calmness that comes from knowing she’s had a great result – the body language difference between the two on the night and the day after says it all.

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  26. Positan (385 comments) says:

    Graciousness of any kind is a quality unknown to Labour types.

    What about the acme of Cullen’s utterances “We won, you lost -eat that!!!”

    Labour’s individually insecure supporters are a truly horrible lot.

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  27. Pete George (23,345 comments) says:

    It does seem as if his first priority is his party, the impression I get is he sees the people of Mana as a tool for his ambitions.

    <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/4370491/Manas-man-Faafoi-straight-into-2011-campaign"Mana's man Faafoi straight into 2011 campaign

    He said he felt relieved the campaign was over and he planned to “hit the ground running” from today. “It’s less than 12 months till the general election so I know I have to definitely get cracking.”

    “My first thing is to get around all the schools and touch base properly with all the teachers and principals to see how we can help in Opposition and also as the local MP,” Mr Faafoi said.

    I wonder how he will help those principals and teachers who feel they have a responsibility to act on government policy, and how he will help the kids in the schools. Or is he just after more power? I wonder what Goff promised him.

    I’d have thought he should be finding out what he can do for his electorate rather than what he can use his new electorate for in his ambitions.

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  28. ciaron (1,389 comments) says:

    She’s trying to make herself feel better. She lost, and this is the second time the people of Mana didn’t want her.

    In the game that’s all about perception; this is just a weapons-grade-idot thing to say, in light of the fact that you’ve just lost 5/6th of your majority.

    And for those out there that dont understand the concept of a victorious defeat, look here

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  29. Simon (717 comments) says:

    Not something Winnie Laban would have said. Parliament and NZ has become a little poorer with this latest Mana result.

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  30. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    “She’s trying to make herself feel better”. Obviously he said more than what you’ve quoted David…but I guess it might be asking too much for some context.

    So let me get this straight: Hekia Parata congratulated Chris and acknolwedged that Mana had made a good choice? That she’d had every opportunity to win, even the support and presence of the PM, but just wasn’t good enough?

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  31. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    starboard (1,383) Says: 11:54 pm “yeah I heard the comment as well…cheeky darky..who the fuck does he think he is..”

    well, who do you think you are to use the epithet “darky” ?

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  32. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    So what did John key say after the loss:

    “Labour went into this by-election saying it would be a referendum on the Government and the results of tonight say that the referendum from the people is that the Government’s policies are working.

    “It’s going to put an awful lot of pressure on Phil Goff. He’s going to have to take away tonight’s result and have his tail between his legs. “He’s been thrashed”.

    Wow. What a gracious loser.

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  33. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    “Have they not learned anything from all the Socialist regimes that have failed, even within their lifetimes…?

    No, and even worse they never will. Some people are born, are destined, to be abject failures and to hate those who succeed in life. For the myriad of losers, morons and intellectually-challenged, the only choice is to embrace socialism.

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  34. kiwi in america (2,477 comments) says:

    Ross
    There is no precedent in the era of the 2 party domination of National and Labour to a 14% swing to the incumbent government’s candidate – not even one that is close. If the EPMU had not had a bunch of full time paid union staff members on the ground in Porirua East getting out the Labour vote, Faa’foi would’ve lost. It’s hardly ungracious to state the blunt truth – that Goff was effectively thrashed.

    From National’s point of view this is the prefect result. A Labour loss and Goff would’ve been a goneburger. This narrow weak win wounds him and undermines his authority and yet is insufficient to embolden a rival. Goff, by anointing someone so close to him, must own this result because a Laban type candidate who was more local wouldn’t have suffered such a large diminuation in the majority. Candidate quality in by elections is important. One only has to compare the Mt Albert and Mana results to see that.

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  35. Danyl Mclauchlan (1,066 comments) says:

    Parata’s comments in the media that she ‘won’ even though she actually ‘lost’ are also ungracious and crass, and it’s impossible to fault Faafoi when he replies in kind.

    [DPF: You miss the key point that he personalised it by talking about how "she was not wanted". But that is fine - he has started the 2011 campaign with a fuck up - long may they continue]

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  36. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    KIA,

    You are forgetting that the turn out was less than 55%. Had the turnout been 90% or more, I suspect the Labour majority would’ve been far greater.

    You talk about a candidate who is “more local”. Where does Hekia Parata live? John Key said during the campaign that she lives in Mana…

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  37. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    Danyl,

    That is so true. But DPF can’t for one moment take his blinkers off…

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  38. Akaroa (552 comments) says:

    Kiwi-in-America at 6.04am

    See the above. As always, a sound, wise and perceptive comment from across the ocean.

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  39. Akaroa (552 comments) says:

    And at 7.31am, too!

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  40. Pete George (23,345 comments) says:

    You are forgetting that the turn out was less than 55%.

    Are you forgetting why the turnout was less than 55%? That means a lot of voters didn’t want to vote for Faafoi/Labour (around three quarters). It’s pointless trying to claim those who didn’t vote would have (maybe) boosted Faafoi’s majority. They didn’t vote, so they don’t count.

    This was a lacklustre showing of support for Labour. In private those with any brains in Labour will see the obvious – if they don’t I don’t hold much hope for Labour’s recovery.

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  41. kiwi in america (2,477 comments) says:

    Ross
    I’m comparing only BYELECTION results in my analysis. All byelections have very low turnouts – Mana was no exception. This was a shockingly poor byelection result. If you’ve read other posts of mine I say that Faa’foi’s majority will likely recover to historically normal levels for a safe Labour seat.

    Parata’s lack of local still saw her almost take this seat. Had Labour chosen a local PI party member, Laban’s majority would’ve not taken such a beating.

    As a real life snap shot of elector opinion about Goff and Labour there is nothing to celebrate in this result.

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  42. BlairM (2,307 comments) says:

    KIA – I don’t recall Bolger doing any crowing in 1993 – on the night it looked like a 1 seat majority with Michael Laws holding the balance of power. He gave a very humble speech, unlike Moore who really did destroy his leadership with his “long cold night” speech.

    Faafoi may well be a “nice guy” most of the time, but his comments really do reveal Labour’s infamy as New Zealand’s Nasty Party. He also made the comment “Nearly half the people stayed home. I would hazard a guess that most of them were our supporters”. He doesn’t seem to realise that, even if this is true, it reflects so poorly on him that he couldn’t motivate them to come out and vote for him!

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  43. kiwi in america (2,477 comments) says:

    Blair
    Mike blundered with that speech for sure. The genesis was that the journey from his home in Papanui to the Labour campaign HQ at Hutchinson’s Motors was a short 2 minute drive. When Mike left his home projections showed a possible narrow Labour win in Selwyn – by the time he went on stage a few minutes later Richardson hung on. Those with Mike in the car failed to check the monitors at the campaign HQ when they arrived to get the latest results and he got up on stage thinking he’d won. His fate as Labour leader was sealed far more by Clark, Dyson and Street using Labour Party and union muscle to ensure anti Mike pro Helen candidates were selected for winnable seats inthe run up to the 93 election than that speech. Even if Mike had won (and the turnaround from 1990 to 1993 exceeded Muldoon’s 72 to 75 turnaround) those close to him still speculate that the sisterhood would’ve turned on him at the slightest reason and topple him as PM.

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  44. Lance (2,565 comments) says:

    Oh dear… Danyl and ross…

    14% swing against Labour in a safe seat is nothing but a resounding victory and Kris the incarnation of Walter Mitty is perfectly justified with his acidic comments.

    Look at what you are saying… your dicks!

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  45. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    This is a big swing to National but the 14% quoted in the MSM contradicts the traditional calculation method: 7% up for National and 7% down for Labour is a 7% two-party swing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_(United_Kingdom)

    (I could be out of date, but that is the way I understood it should be calculated)

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  46. claire (6 comments) says:

    What a shame that Kris hasn’t yet taken the opportunity to apoligse to the Mana electorate for portraying them all as desperately poor Pacific Islanders who are struggling to buy their groceries. I wonder just how pissed off some in the electorate were to be portrayed this way to the nation, and even more pissed off with the national media for not even bothering to find out the real demographics of the electorate.

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  47. Murray (8,842 comments) says:

    Kris should invest in some cast iron undies because this is going to come back to bite him.

    He pissed away one of the safest seats labout had.

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  48. tvb (4,255 comments) says:

    People stayed home despite the very determined efforts of the Labour Party. This was against Phil Goff’s comments they could lose if people stayed home. I hope Labour does not get it and continues as they are if so they are heading for a historic defeat. But nothing will keep the nasty party down,

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  49. david (2,554 comments) says:

    Ahaha, all is well in the world now that we have a Tuvalan MP. Nothing can stop us now.!!! Remind me again how many Tuvalan’s we have in NZ? The people of Porirua East have got what they deserve, the only trouble is that they are too blind to see it.

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  50. Tails50 (4 comments) says:

    Get your facts right david (1,6,18). Kris Fafoi is a New Zealand born Tokelauan, not Tuvalan which is no relation to Tokelau.

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  51. Pete George (23,345 comments) says:

    Andrew Little does seem to get it with a bit more realism than some of the Labour supporters.

    Labour puts on brave face over National gain

    Labour Party president Andrew Little said the result was “not necessarily a swing to National”.

    He could be correct although the chances are Parata’s increasing local profile gained her some support. But it certainly looks like a swing from Labour, or at least from Laban (probably from both).

    He believed the low turnout and reduced majority was at least partly because of Labour voters staying at home because they were unhappy with Mr Faafoi’s selection.

    “I don’t know how deep it was, but it was a constant thing that came up.”

    And he acknowledges a key detail. Let’s hope Labour learn from that – and also some of the unions who seem to want to promote their own.

    [DPF: Yes Andrew was very honest with his comments]

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  52. Rick Rowling (823 comments) says:

    I’ve met Kris, a genuinely nice guy and good to talk to. What the hell is he doing coming out with lines like this?

    [DPF: I have to say I was amazed when he said it on the news. I deemed it out of character also]

    Could be that as an MP, Kris is no longer Kris, but is now Labour Party Communications Machine Outlet #43.

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  53. thedavincimode (6,590 comments) says:

    The lying little shitbag appears to have overlooked the fact that rather less people in Mana want him relative to Laban. Parata torpedoed Labour’s majority, with no small assistance from him.

    Parata has demonstated from the time of her maiden parliamentary speech that she is a class act, not only relative to that little greasebag Faafoi, but also relative to other Ministerial incumbents. Hopefully she winds up with some rather more meaningful portfolios than the bollocks portfolios held by Wong.

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  54. david (2,554 comments) says:

    Apologies Tails50. I suppose “close but no cigar”. (Heads off to Google to discover the difference)

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  55. BeaB (2,084 comments) says:

    Parata is a class act who puts in the hard yards even when the spotlight isn’t on her.
    Kris is a shallow opportunist who has just managed to get in with massive support from the money and muscle of the unions.
    These two people say a lot to me about the parties they represent.

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  56. Komata (1,142 comments) says:

    And where, one must ask, is the hitherto-vociferous Mr McCarten? I gather he lost in a somewhat large fashion. Perhaps unsurprisingly, his silence is, of course deafening, but as one who was so loud in his demands for ‘equality’ and ‘a voice’ I would have expected at least some comment about the election and his performance there-in.

    Should one hold one’s breath in anticipation?

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  57. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Komata, Matt said “getting over 5 per cent and hopefully closer to 10 per cent of the vote gets me skiting rights”. He must have been dreaming.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/matt-mccarten/news/article.cfm?a_id=284&objectid=10688980

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  58. Shazzadude (522 comments) says:

    Pete George “Are you forgetting why the turnout was less than 55%? ”

    Because it’s a by-election, and the reasons for lower turnouts in by-elections are pretty obvious. Less media coverage, less buildup, newbie candidates, and less incentive to vote as it’s not a vote that can cause a change to or of government.

    I always maintained that this would be close with Parata a possibility of victory, simply due to the socio-economic demographics of Mana combined with a lower vote turnout. The relationship between Labour’s majority and a low voter turnout was never going to be linear.

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  59. grumpyoldhori (2,416 comments) says:

    Parate was an idiot with her body language of, I’m a Nat token hori and I expect you hories to support me.
    A few hories did not vote for the Nats because of Parata, even if she is dragged around all the Nat party meetings to be shown off as a token.
    Still, typical Nat hori, as one of the lads said in a tossup between Maoridom and the Nat party it will be interesting where those tokens land.

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  60. big bruv (13,571 comments) says:

    “Less media coverage,”

    Utter rubbish, a shit hole like Mana would never receive as much media coverage in a general election as it received during this campaign.

    Labour and its people knew this was a vote on the competency of the Govt and Goff’s leadership, in both cases the result was a disaster for Labour.

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  61. claire (6 comments) says:

    big bruv – with a statement like that one would have to ask do you live in the electorate? If you do, then why not move if you call it a shithole? And if you don’t, what do you know about it that entitles you to call it a shithole?

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  62. kowtow (7,955 comments) says:

    This rough attitude displayed by Labourites indicates an inate sense of entitlement to rule that they feel and so can’t help display occasionally . It comes from their basic conflict/class struggle philosophy and which in many of them is not far from the surface. “You make a mistake when you don’t choose us.’….We know what’s best for you…..
    Helen displayed this with her ungracious comments on losing the last General election . You could see there was a lack of acceptance/understanding in the fact that the electorate had spoken. That’s our system thank goodness. And so is freedom of speech which the left are continually making inroads into.

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  63. Positan (385 comments) says:

    For the benefit of those who’ve joined this list in attempt to bolster Labour’s hopes with comments that convey only kindergarten-levels of political appreciation and understanding, it’d be greatly appreciated by all who can and do accept facts as they stand – rather than so foolishly trying to twist and re-interpret the actuality of their import – if you took your facile views back to Red Alert.

    There’s nothing honest about your contributions. You seek only to be soothed politically – whether by the inanity of your own utterances or by attempting to discredit the real substance of others’ contributions. Such wanking is not a mainstay of this blog, and it does nothing but waste time which might otherwise be gainfully applied.

    If you want to peddle crap, do it somewhere like Red Alert where it’d really be appreciated.

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  64. Zapper (967 comments) says:

    ben (1,352) Says:
    November 21st, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    I’ve met Kris, a genuinely nice guy and good to talk to. What the hell is he doing coming out with lines like this?

    Yep, having known Kris for a long time he is much smarter and a far better person than given credit for here, despite his political affiliations.

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  65. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    Posted this at the Standard but what the hell, i may as well double tap it here…

    if Fa’afoi he were a white ex TV journo and former press secretary who jumped on the Labour bandwagon pretty late in the game, would he still have gotten in on the ‘safe’ Labour seat buzz ?

    would the media have ridden him harder…would the voters ‘connect’ with him even less…how much of the vote was because he was brown rather than he was ‘Labour’ ?

    does it matter that he’s appears brown in skin only with no real connection to the electorate ?

    i wonder how Mana would have voted if Parata were also a Pasifikan male, except one who lived and worked and socialised there.

    one can only assume Mana got the MP they deserve. i reckon they deserved more, regardless of the party the candidate represents.

    if National sourced a local candidate and said, ‘look Hekia, you’re 3 and 0 in the batting stakes, time for a spell on the bench cos you got a safe gig on the list team anyway’…

    …we’d find out how much being brown, male and local truly means to Mana when deciding who they want repping for them in the big house, and Fa’afoi, Goff and Labour would be in for a rude awakening

    [DPF: I wonder what the majority would have been if the candidate favoured by party members, Josie Pagani, had won the nomination?]

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  66. Shazzadude (522 comments) says:

    Big Bruv “Utter rubbish, a shit hole like Mana would never receive as much media coverage in a general election as it received during this campaign.

    Labour and its people knew this was a vote on the competency of the Govt and Goff’s leadership, in both cases the result was a disaster for Labour.”

    A general election receives more national press than a by-election. Fact. The people of Mana get the same television news as everyone else.

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  67. Pete George (23,345 comments) says:

    A general election receives more national press than a by-election. Fact. The people of Mana get the same television news as everyone else.

    The national coverage per electorate is far greater in a by-election. Most electorates like Mana would barely get a national media mention in a General Election. Who had heard of Mana until that last couple of months?

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  68. bruceedwards (5 comments) says:

    My jaw dropped when I saw that statement. Somewhat out of character for Faafoi, who has cultivated a ‘nice-guy’ image carefully over the years and who, with a news background, is very aware of the damage a quote like this can do.

    Is there a clip online with the whole interview? I would be interested to see this quote in context.

    Of course, it’s equally possible he was lashing out because he’s feeling under the gun. He must be somewhat frustrated at how much of a ‘win’ this appears to be for National.

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  69. black paul (124 comments) says:

    kiwi in america:

    Your analysis seems factual and accurate but you entirely miss the point.

    Hekia and Key’s result is undoubtably impressive – I don’t see anyone denying that – but David made this post about good grace, good manners, good form, and generally being a good sport.

    Brazenly and gracelessly claiming you won when you didn’t just flies in the face of all those things, no matter how well you may have done to achieve the result you did.

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  70. Jinky (181 comments) says:

    A few things come to mind, pot,kettle, glass houses, black and stones. It’s just politics as usual with the 2 main parties. Put it in a bubble and blow it all away.

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  71. slightlyrighty (2,499 comments) says:

    Check out Tom Scott’s cartoon in this mornings Dominion!

    Classic!

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/blogs/opinion/cartoons/

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