Dom Post rates the first two years

November 27th, 2010 at 1:28 pm by David Farrar

In today’s , and rate the high achievers and the casualties of the first tow years of the Government.Note the comments below are my extracts of what Vernon and John said – they are not my personal views.

Top of the Class

  1. John Key 8.5/10
  2. Simon Power 8.0/10 – they suggest he moves to Education
  3. Steven Joyce 7.5/10 – possible Finance Minister in the future
  4. Gerry Brownlee – has risen from defeat to become one of Govt’s best assets – they say he may be in line for deputy PM
  5. Tim Groser – 6.5/10 – a good example of why you have List MPs, doing an excellent job in trade

Casualties

  • Richard Worth
  • Bill English over his housing allowance
  • Melissa Lee over Mt Albert
  • Aaron Gilmore over his CV
  • Pansy Wong over her travel

Struggling

  • Anne Tolley 4.5/10 – valiantly trying against the powerful education unions
  • Rodney Hide – 4.0/10 – his imploding caucus
  • Georgina te Hehheu – 2.5/10 – what does she do?
  • Pansy Wong – 2.0/10 – even before she quit, they say she had sunk without trace

Rising Backbenchers

  • Craig Foss – favoured to narrowly beat his Hawke’s Bay colleague into Cabinet
  • Hekia Parata – a strong showing in Mana, and in her previous career
  • Chester Borrows – a solid Chairman of Justice & Electoral Committee
  • Amy Adams – has shone in the House

The Success Stories

  • The tax switch
  • A stable Government
  • Law & Order

Disasters and Pressure Points

  • The economy
  • The environment
  • Natural disasters

Feel free to comment on whether you agree or disagree, any additions you would make, and where?

The most obvious omission to me is Tony Ryall in the top of the class. I doubt a single MP would say he is not up there.

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53 Responses to “Dom Post rates the first two years”

  1. jaba (2,091 comments) says:

    Ryall is doing a great job .. Labour just can’t land a hit on him and Collins is killing Cosgrove

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  2. adze (1,933 comments) says:

    I’m surprised Judith Collins didn’t make the list… she impresses as a Minister.

    [DPF: She has performed well - I think having law & order as a sucess is implicit recognition]

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  3. ciaron (1,350 comments) says:

    # Simon Power 8.0/10 – they suggest he moves to Education

    was this written before or after EFA MKII?

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  4. tvb (4,229 comments) says:

    Bill English has recovered quite a bit from the housing fiasco. But the PM towers over everyone as it should be. Tony Ryall is probably the best Minister of Health ever?? deserves a Knighthood in due Course for his success in getting on top of that most demanding portfolios in the most difficult times. Gerry Brownlee has been a very reassuring figure with the two big disasters he has handled. I shudder at the prospect of say Nick Smith fronting them. The politics of disasters are not rocket science. But Brownlee has been very skillful in his manner. He can be “Disaster Minister in Chief” along with the PM. Not sure about Simon Power. The Legal Profession does not rate him much. See him as a country solicitor with a bit of a chip on his shoulder about the Profession. Ann Tolley must go sooner rather than later, however reluctant the PM is to give the Teachers’ Unions a ministerial scalp.

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  5. Pete George (23,131 comments) says:

    Gerry Brownlee seems to have recovered from his mining mess. I agree on Ryall (deserving credit).

    Not sure about Simon Power. The Legal Profession does not rate him much.

    That’s not so important, as long as he does the best for us. EFA might not please everyone but it’s a big improvement.

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  6. Fale Andrew Lesa (473 comments) says:

    I agree with your assessment of Georgina Te Heuheu. She is rarely at Pacific community events, and does little to champion Pacific issues.

    :D

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  7. nickb (3,673 comments) says:

    I stopped reading when I saw Joyce and Power were rated “top of the class”.

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  8. backster (2,103 comments) says:

    Key would be the most impressive leader in my long memory even though I often disagree with his policies. I also endorse the favourable comments about Ryal and Collins.

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  9. Jimmy (16 comments) says:

    Wayne Mapp deserves some attention. Good effort on getting the White Paper out, it has finally given the NZDF some direction and clarity about what it needs to produce.

    However, he has a habit of having his cake and wanting to eat it too. He wants a world class defence force, with top of the line equipment, but is unwilling to pay for it. So he hired Dr Deane (who did such a stirling job transforming Telecom into the high powered corporate heavyweight that it is today!!) to pluck $300 MILLION as a figure to be saved. Where the hell did Mapp and Deane come up wih that??? If the defence force could save $300 Mill, they would have done it long ago. Throwaway lines about moving back line staff to the front line are just that, NZDF has already done that out of necessity. Any further moves will only be retrograde.

    So in my opinion Mapp deserves 5 out of 10. Good effort with at least getting the White Paper, bad effort on fanciful dreams of how not to pay for it.

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  10. reid (16,061 comments) says:

    Not sure about Simon Power. The Legal Profession does not rate him much. See him as a country solicitor with a bit of a chip on his shoulder about the Profession.

    I don’t rate him either tvb. I saw him at a conference in the hotel lobby berating a hotel maid for something or other and just his tone was demeaning. He wasn’t angry but he was condescending and arrogant, to a hotel maid.

    That says a lot about someone, the way they treat their “lessors.”

    I too rate Ryall. I look forward to him announcing Lean Six Sigma implementation across the Health sector. That would be a fantastic move. C’mon Tony, just google it.

    I don’t agree Hide is struggling. ACT’s rating is about right for this time in the cycle. Don’t forget that none of ACT’s voters are slack-jawed yokels so none fall for the caucus-division crap. They don’t give a shit about it, they just want the best team and where the fuck is Franks? He was really, really good. Anyway, Hide needs to sell the SuperCity and he’ll breeze in if he can find something he can point to, something results-wise.

    Key is doing his job well in every area except one: the make-an-actual-permanent-difference-for-the-better arena. Where is his strategy for that? It’s not a trivial omission. Successfully to get us out of this GFC crisis, he has to do radical spending cuts and he’s not doing them. As I’ve said before, Key hasn’t yet demonstrated to me he understands the make-an-actual-difference arena is more important than the get-re-elected arena.

    The moment he does that, he demonstrates greatness.

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  11. MT_Tinman (3,033 comments) says:

    Tolley has upset bloody near every communist in the country, (particularly the slime and the non-teachers representatives) suggesting she is doing something right.

    4.5 might be harsh there.

    I also disagree that the economy and natural disasters are either disasters or pressure points for this government.

    They have handled both quite well in most aspects.

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  12. reid (16,061 comments) says:

    “4.5 might be harsh there.”

    It’s too bloody generous, MT. She’s done a lousy job at selling this, by never not even once pointing out the changes were trivial and minor. Bang. Shoot-self in foot. Bang. Do it again. And again. Day after day this message should have gone out, until it sunk in. Bang. etc.

    Of course her treatment throughout this was and remains deplorable, but what did she expect from the teachers and media, when she was doing her sell-the-strategy risk-planning sessions, or didn’t she have any.

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  13. Gooner (995 comments) says:

    What Reid said @3pm.

    I think the Super City has so far been a resounding success. The transition has gone without major problems; largely because of Hide’s job as minister, and the officers, who have done a magnificent job making it work in the first month or so – and that includes the executives (McKay et al).

    It’s also a bit disingenious to say that a positive is stable government, then point out an imploding ACT caucus, especially when one also considers the problems in the Maori Party.

    I am more and more impressed with Key. He needs to keep remaining a “common man” rather than a stiff-neck politician – that’s his strength. I still think he needs to “man up” on some significant issues, but if the acid test is “could I vote for him”, then the answer is yes. Of course, the alternative is simply not one, so that makes his job easier.

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  14. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    The incompetent Nick Smith flies by stealth causing enormous damage to the NZ economy and the pundits at the Dom Post don’t even mention his dismal performance.

    The luck of the Greenie, you can call it.

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  15. Whaleoil (766 comments) says:

    FIGJAM only got that rating because Vernon Small likes to fellate him. Both thoroughly pink politically.

    Almost everything the 3rd rate conveyancing lawyer from a provincial town has touched has turned to shite. Ad on the new EFA, plus his tilt at trying to control new media and he is a complete plonker who would barely rate above a soft 3.

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  16. nickb (3,673 comments) says:

    Totally agree Manolo.

    What I often wonder also is why people who have been successful in the private sector turn to politics and become such socialist nanny state politicians. Joyce is one main example. Why would you spend your whole life making a fuckload of money then decide to go into the puerile business of telling your ‘subjects’ what to do?

    And as for Simon Power… LOL is all I have to say. A crappy low rate conveyancer now in charge of the Ministry of Justice…. no wonder no-one in the profession has anything but contempt for him (yes EVERY colleague I have spoken to has laughed when Power comes up in discussion… he is really regarded as a bad joke).

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  17. nickb (3,673 comments) says:

    Lol WO beat me to it, what is the saying, great minds and all… :)

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  18. 3-coil (1,203 comments) says:

    The Opposition score?…a solid 1/10

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  19. john.bt (170 comments) says:

    I am still shocked that Vernon Small actually wrote something about the National government rather that his beloved Labour party.

    Tony Ryall certainly is a big omission doing really well in a bugger of a portfolio. Maybe he could take on Education next. I too would ignore Nick Smith.

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  20. Offshore_Kiwi (557 comments) says:

    2 Simon Power 8.0/10 – they suggest he moves to Education

    Why would they move him to education? So he can cave to the commies in the teachers union the way he caved to liarbore over the Son Of EFA, or to the Law Commission over name suppression?

    Power is a total light-weight, and he’s in the wrong party. He’s proven himself to be a big-government, control freak of the first order. In fact he’s probably too far left even for Liarbore. He belongs in the watermelon party.

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  21. Johnboy (15,382 comments) says:

    Shit if the legal profession think Power is a useless prick he must be doing a few things right. I’ll give him an 8/10.

    :)

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  22. reid (16,061 comments) says:

    “Maybe he [Ryall] could take on Education next.”

    Personally john I’m a fan of keeping them in portfolios throughout the entire term of govt however many terms that is. Why is it that we tolerate the fact that politicians are often shifted around? Why?

    Why can’t we have specialist Health politicians whose only ambition is to become Minister of Health and who then stays there throughout their govt’s entire term.

    From an efficiency perspective that would make a lot more sense, but since when did politicians demonstrate they ever cared about efficiency?

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  23. Johnboy (15,382 comments) says:

    Tolley deserves more than 4.5 just for having to put up with the shit the useless tool screechers throw at her.

    She has stirred up a bloody vipers nest of bloody useless, timeserving, unionised shit.

    Key should grow a pair and let her sack the lot of the scum and see how many crawl back to re-apply for their jobs in a new non-unionised teaching profession.

    I rate her at 8.5/10 (specially since she looks quite sexy since her makeover). :)

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  24. Bob (490 comments) says:

    I agree about Tony Ryall. Health is seen as a minefield. I’ve heard it suggested MPs are given the health portfolio as a punishment. I have been surprised at how little criticism and ruction there has been with health under Tony.

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  25. reid (16,061 comments) says:

    Indeed, Health is reputed to be extremely fracturous. I fear Ryall is replicating Key’s general strategy however which is to tread very softly indeed.

    Neither Health nor the rest of the country need this approach, right now.

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  26. Rex Widerstrom (5,307 comments) says:

    Tim Groser – 6.5/10 – a good example of why you have List MPs, doing an excellent job in trade

    Agree Groser is a high achiever. But how is that an argument for List MPs, just because he happens to be one? On that “logic” it’s an argument for more middle aged, middle class white males then. Unless they’re saying he’s an excellent performer but the electorate are so dumb they’d rate him unelectable. Either way, a completely fallacious and unsupported argument. In short, precisely what I’d expect.

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  27. bigjeanie (14 comments) says:

    Not so sure about Tolley being sexy, but am I missing something with national standards?

    They’ve been in schools since the start of this year and a principal I spoke to last week (sadly not at our school) says they are already making a difference (in a good way)

    So Tolley has done what she was told to do by her boss. Meanwhile the unionists whine that she is bullying them, while the right complain she isn’t smashing the left. All the while schools are just doing it.

    Are teachers marching in the streets over this? No. Is their union’s campaign team making a huge amount of noise? Yes.

    Is it getting them anywhere? Is it hell.

    Anyone who thinks a National education minister should be judged on whether they win over the unions should get a grip.

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  28. Johnboy (15,382 comments) says:

    A National education minister should really be judged not on winning over the union but smashing it.

    I am always amused how teachers wish to be regarded as professionals but line up behind a bunch of scum bag union leaders just like the wharfies or boilermakers used to and yell abuse at their employers.

    Slow learners I guess. Probably need some remedial education. :)

    Sacking the lot of them and getting them to reapply for their jobs under a new contract should get their minds focused.

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  29. Viking2 (11,215 comments) says:

    The fact that Small and Co. didn’t even mention Tony Ryall is testament to their shallowness.

    Tony has had an ambition to be PM since age about 16. He had Nat. minders looking after him from that early age.
    But kudos to him for he was the only Nat, who while in opposition spent 9 years studying his subject and getting to know what the Health portfolio was about.
    He is very plugged into the local health scene and obviously well connected around the country.

    Of course the results will be in the outcomes so when we see them we will know more definitively.

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  30. bc (1,344 comments) says:

    Johnboy@5.46

    As if that post wasn’t bile-enducing enough, the last sentence really makes the vomit flow.
    You’re a sick man johnboy (of course I realised this a lot time ago).

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  31. Johnboy (15,382 comments) says:

    Guess you are employed/filling in time/accepting taxpayers cash as what is loosely termed a teacher these days then bc. :)

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  32. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    You cannot but agree with Whale Oil and nick on their low opinion of Simon Power.

    A country town mediocre lawyer who by sheer luck has ended up as minister of the Crown and is now showing his “talent” on every issue he touches. The revised EFA is a good example of Power at work.

    And he’s one of the Labour-lite luminaries according to the Dom Post. Figure that out!

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  33. bc (1,344 comments) says:

    Why Johnboy, Because I don’t find Tolley attractive??
    I guess a large proportion of New Zealanders have suddenly become teachers then!
    (Now that really would be johnboy’s worst nightmare – an educated population)

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  34. noskire (833 comments) says:

    What are the odds the “smiling assassin” will replace his deputy before the next election?

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  35. Johnboy (15,382 comments) says:

    The :) means I am taking the piss bc. I thought an educated person like you would realise.

    Seriously now. I am really interested in your theory that being a teacher=educated.

    This photo says it all really.

    “Give us the tools to teach” :)

    http://img.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/1009/dsc_0153.jpg.jpeg

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  36. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    By the way, when will Parliamentary swervices will release the findings of its invetigation of Wong’s overseas trips?

    Ten (10) junkets at taxpayers expense, five of then to China is an excessive number, so I look forward to Ms. Wong quitting Parliament altogether. If she refuses to do so, Key & co. should push her. No if or buts.

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  37. adam2314 (377 comments) says:

    reid 3:00pm

    In total agreement with his comment on John Key..

    This country is sinking slowly ….

    Time to grow some ” Balls ” J.K. We are the only ones that will work NZ out of the crap that socialism has dropped us into..

    Cut back on the useless pencil pushers..
    Cut the army of Hi-Viz Vests and clip boards, that constantly monitor that we are complying with OSH.

    How many cut fingers there were this year as against last year ??.
    What have you done to ensure that this will not happen again ??.

    Put common sense back into peoples vocabulary..

    Welfare has to be curtailed..

    Decrease the staff levels at WINZ or what ever it is called today..

    Thus making people find work ( that is there ).. Before they starve..

    Youth rates.. A must..

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  38. Johnboy (15,382 comments) says:

    But then we would be without a token oriental in our illustrious ranks Manolo.

    That would never do in these enlightened times.

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  39. big bruv (13,450 comments) says:

    adam2314

    I totally agree about bringing back youth rates.

    We have just hired a couple of “yoofs” for menial work, if you get them through WINZ then the tax payer will pay a large portion of their wages for the first six months.

    How fucking stupid is that?…why not just have youth rates, let us hire them and pay then what they are worth (far less than the average wage if their current performance is any indication) and keep the tax payer out of it.

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  40. bc (1,344 comments) says:

    Yes, I know what the smiley face means, johnboy. Thus, my (semi) light-hearted comment in return.

    I’m not saying teacher=educated johnboy, rather that teachers have a better appreciation of the value of on an educated society (economically of course, but also non-economic benefits) than Tolley seems to have. Now at risk of putting words in your mouth, jonboy, I suspect you would say something along the lines of this is because teachers are only in it for the money and then probably go on an irrational tirade about all the holidays they get. (Prove me wrong, johnboy!)

    But ther real reason why I have no respect for Tolley has nothing to do with her attractiveness. (That would wipe out about 95% of politicians!) Rather that Tolley is truely ignorant about her portfolio. It is really disturbing that some people in here like her solely because of a perception that she is dealing to the unions (which she isn’t by the way – she hasn’t even dented them, but that’s another story). I would have thought that having a competent and knowledgeable MP would be far more important than one that simply repeats rhetoric in the believe that if she says it enough times then it must be true.

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  41. Johnboy (15,382 comments) says:

    Well for one who professes denial of being one of the “tools in teaching” you seem to have a fairly biased position.

    Wise of you not to put words in my mouth regarding teachers holidays because I don’t give a damn about that.

    My gripe is that the teaching profession ( I use that word in its widest possible sense) as been hijacked by a bunch of lefty arseholes in the union and the teachers who still have some pride left in their work are too bloody afraid to take their once honoured profession back from them.

    When you say Tolley is ignorant about her portfolio what you are really saying is that she is not rolling over and letting the unions kick the shit out of her as they have done in the past with apologies for an education minister like Carter and they don’t like that.

    More power to her arm. I hope Key backs her to the hilt and breaks the insidious power that the scumbag, lefty, teachers union has held over the education of our children for far too long now.

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  42. MikeNZ (3,234 comments) says:

    Agree with reid 3.00pm.
    going into debt $250 a week to balence the books = unsustainable.
    $100 a week to pay for benefits is bullshit.

    maybe if we took the vote off of anyone receiving a benefit for the time they are on one, we’d destroy Labour’s base and start getting back on track.
    pity about the NZbora.

    But we won’t as conservatives we honour the rules unlike the progressive who ignore them as they think they don’t apply to them as they are right.

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  43. adam2314 (377 comments) says:

    As I said BB..

    Bring back COMMON SENSE !!!..

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  44. adam2314 (377 comments) says:

    Hey BB.

    A youth wage …

    They would not be able to afford RTD’s.. Shock Horror…

    Once a youth, I will admit to having a couple of pints .. and unable to handle it.. But could not do that every day as they can now ..

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  45. adam2314 (377 comments) says:

    Hehe..

    Memories.. Age 17 years..

    Pushed a piano through a bar wall in Malta.
    Because they would not let me sing..

    Won’t go through the justice system of the time…

    Have never thought about singing in public again..

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  46. kowtow (7,851 comments) says:

    Big fricken minus for;

    anti smacking and getting a pseudo comedian trick cyclist to review (jk)
    ETS (nick smith)
    Forehore (jk and Findlay)

    Big ups;

    Getting rid of Labour.

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  47. Yvette (2,735 comments) says:

    If Pansy Wong looses some points for even before she quit, having sunk without trace, who the hell are these people –
    Chris Auchinvole, Raymond Huo, Iain Lees-Galloway, Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga, and Carmel Sepuloni – who don’t seem to have ever made it to the surface?

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  48. Owen McShane (1,226 comments) says:

    Environment?
    A common complaint has been that the RMA was let loose on the Public without Government providing sufficient National Policy Statements to keep councils on the straight and narrow.

    There is an old saying “Be careful what you wish for.”

    The Quality Planning web site announces that the New Zealand Coastal Policy Statement 2010 (NZCPS) will replace the NZCPS 1994 on the 3rd December, 2010.
    The NZCPS 1994 remains in effect until the 3rd December 2010. That does not leave much time for anyone to apply to do anything on the New Zealand Coastline.

    Policy three introduces the Precautionary Principle into the administration of the RMA. We can be sure this policy will be used to justify references to the precautionary principle into just about every chapter in your next set of planning documents. Consider what it says:

    Policy 3: Precautionary approach.

    • Adopt a precautionary approach towards proposed activities whose effects on the coastal environment are uncertain, unknown, or little understood, but potentially significantly adverse.

    • In particular, adopt a precautionary approach to use and management of coastal resources potentially vulnerable to effects from climate change, so that:

    • avoidable social and economic loss and harm to communities does not occur;

    • natural adjustments for coastal processes, natural defences, ecosystems, habitat and species are allowed to occur; and

    • the natural character, public access, amenity and other values of the coastal environment meet the needs of future generations.

    This set of recommendations, which must “be given effect to”, in District and Regional planning documents should remind us why, in 2006, the UK House of Commons Select Committee on Science and Technology, confirmed its earlier recommendation on the Precautionary Principle:

    “We can confirm our initial view that the term ‘precautionary principle’ should not be used, and recommend that it cease to be included in policy guidance. … In our view, the terms ‘precautionary principle’ and ‘precautionary approach’ in isolation from any such clarification have been the subject of such confusion and different interpretations as to be devalued and of little practical help, particularly in public debate.”

    Policy 10 on reclamation and de-reclamation is equally scary. Just as well we got our foreshores at Auckland and Wellington built when we did.

    Policy 10: Reclamation and de-reclamation.

    • Avoid reclamation of land in the coastal marine area, unless:
    • land outside the coastal marine area is not available for the proposed activity;
    • the activity which requires reclamation can only occur in or adjacent to the coastal marine area;
    • there are no practicable alternative methods of providing the activity; and
    • the reclamation will provide significant regional or national benefit.

    How can any application for any activity – such as a marina, or a coastal resort – survive such assessment criteria.

    There will always be an alternative area available outside the coastal marine area.

    Did the Minister of Tourism really approve of this policy statement?

    And the general thrust of the Coastal Policy Statement will bring Marine Farming to a halt just when the we thought it was about to thrive again. Whenever one arm of Government finds a way to catch up with Australia, another arm increases our handicap.

    Numerous policies in this document overturn the common law position going back to Magna Carta, that when the Crown grants legal title to land near the Coast the Crown takes on the responsibility for protecting the land and its inhabitants from invasion and that includes invasion by the sea itself.

    Now it seems the Crown has absolved itself of such responsibility and insists that “nature must be allowed to take its course.”

    The late Aaron Wildavsky was the first to point out that the precautionary principle turns on its head our traditional understanding of the relationship between the citizen and the state. Our constitutions and common law assume the citizen is free to act unless the state can prove harm. The precautionary principle reverses this and says citizens cannot unless they can prove perfect safety.

    We are about to take another giant step on the road to serfdom.

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  49. Jimbob (641 comments) says:

    Small and Hartevelt are light weights. They got so many wrong it’s not worth correcting the errors.

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  50. rouppe (932 comments) says:

    I agree that the environment is a fail, but perhaps not for the same reasons.

    The ETS is a waste of time. Huge cost, nil value. I’ve been trying to get people to listen about water.

    Water quality, water wastage, water allocation. These are all things where proper oversight and action will produce measurable results inside 5 years.
    1) Require landowners to prevent nutrient run-off. Not measure it, reduce it, control it blah blah, but prevent it. And enforce that so that farmers and croppers drastically alter their behaviour.
    2) In our building there are time-based urinal flushes. Which means that for about 14 hours a day 5 days a week, and 24 hours a day 2 days a week, water is being flushed down the drain for no reason. I calculated that if the flush triggers were changed to motion sensors, that the 5 floors that the company I work for would produce a water saving of 1 million litres a year. Local government also needs to do what they say. I don’t know how many times I see flowerbeds in roundabouts etc being watered in the middle of the day, with half of the water landing on the road. Bloody waste
    3) Maintaining a reasonable natural flow in rivers at all times of the year should be the bottom line. If the irrigation requirements are greater than a river can deliver over the driest part of the year, then there’s too much irrigation. Simple as that. The landowner then needs to build and pay for their own storage that can be slowly filled over the high flow months.

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  51. CharlieBrown (916 comments) says:

    It is amazing how deceiving popular opinion is. The only good thing national has done is the little bit they have done with employment law. We still have rediculously high taxes (dicking around while keeping it revenue neutral hasn’t improved a thing), the economy has only been given some pain killers to delay the inevitable economic crash that will occur (Key is trying to delay it so it happens under the next government… glory whore).

    People should remember that John Key doesn’t believe in democracy – he believes in elections and that is it. He is more than happy to ignore direct referendums when they don’t suit him. He is more than happy to back track on the policy that made national popular again ie, abolishing Maori seats. Him and most of his cronies are only in parliament for their own selfish reasons… for Key I suspect it is glory, for English I think it is money. John Key has yet to show anything that closely resembles a spine, yet to show any principal. At least with Helen Clark, you knew where she stood on issues, even if she was a fascist.

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  52. big bruv (13,450 comments) says:

    Don Brash 10/10

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  53. Political Busker (231 comments) says:

    Ho hum – I do not see Bill Wilson and the dopey old horses anywhere. Funny how all the attention is on who makes the laws when all the time the horse is still in the stable.

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