Herald slams Laura Petrova Isaac

November 17th, 2010 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

More than 1500 users, most of whom appear to be students, say they plan to attend the “Castor Bay Beach Party 2!” on Auckland’s North Shore in December.

At a similar gathering last Saturday night some 130 drunken youths refused to leave Castor Bay about 10pm. Police were pelted with bottles after they were called by residents when property was damaged. One man was arrested for jumping on a vehicle.

The mayhem mirrored a similar party at Cheltenham Beach the previous weekend.

More than 1500 people have signalled their intention to attend the December Castor Bay event, organised by student Ash Hilton, with another 440 “maybe attending”.

On the Facebook page, posters do not appear to care about the residents of the area, the police, the illegality of their actions, or grammar. …

Laura Petrova Isaac also intends on going.

“ha ha went to the first one… and the next day it was all over the news and i was watching it with mum and she goes ‘some children these days! im glad u dont do stupid things like this’ lol… uuhhmmm…. [sic]” she wrote.

Oh dear. Laura should know Facebook is public. Her mum probably doesn’t read Facebook, but I am sure Laura is hoping her Mum (or Mum’s friends) don’t read the Herald (or Kiwiblog)!

I can just imagine the thought process of the reporter as they read those comments, thinking I am going to teach that little miss a lesson.

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63 Responses to “Herald slams Laura Petrova Isaac”

  1. GJ (329 comments) says:

    Bring back a GOOD smack when they are young and sort them out before they start to sort others out! Why don’t we learn loving discipline is a GOOD thing.

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  2. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    Laura Petrova Isaac your fifteen minutes starts… now.

    Your grounding may last somewhat longer.

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  3. immigant (950 comments) says:

    It never surprises me that the generation that grew up with social media is the generation that is least aware that it is a two edged sword. I guess having hundreds of ‘friends’ on twatterbook or facepage doesn’t mean that you necessarily have any brains or common sense. I hope she gets served up good by her parents. But knowing that they are probably bleeding heart liberal commies, her mom and pop will probably just blame the NZ Police, Facebook and loose alcohol laws instead of taking to her daughter a sound beating with a wicker cane, Giving her alashing fit for a a wild beast that their daughter is.

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  4. RRM (9,433 comments) says:

    Tear gas & rubber bullets are supposed to be quite good for crowd control aren’t they?

    Stupid spoiled little shore kids. Need learning a lesson.

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  5. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    Oh we’re getting into some freuden slipage there immigant.

    “a sound beating with a wicker cane, like a wild beast”

    A bit of self editing there would not hurt at all chap.

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  6. TripeWryter (715 comments) says:

    More sobering is the attitude of some of these try-hards.

    They think so little of the police — or are so unafraid of the police — that they seem eager to take them on. As if it’s some kind of game.

    I suppose that if the police crack heads the little darlings will scream ‘police brutality’, like the young oik in Wellington last year who told The Dominion Post that a police truncheon had fractured his neck. Weren’t the police and the Independent Police Conduct Authority investigating that? Seems to be taking a suitably long time.

    I notice that he was in the paper last week after some rather unpleasant people from Upper Hutt paid him and his flatmates a visit and roughed them up. They didn’t mind calling the police then.

    Anyway, back to the North Shore — these kids are so uncaring of the effects of their actions on others. Wonder why that is?

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  7. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    I’m a shore kid RRM. Not many millionaires in the navy housing areas though. Nothing like making sweeping generalisations though is there.

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  8. immigant (950 comments) says:

    Thanks Murray, you must be an English teacher in your spare time.

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  9. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    History actually.

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  10. immigant (950 comments) says:

    Police shoudl have the right to distribute random beatings, like in the Mothercountry

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  11. immigant (950 comments) says:

    What ever Murry, you’re old and boring. Not a kid for sure, like you claim.

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  12. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    MurrAy. Its right there in front of you.

    Why are you saying I’m claiming to be a kid? I said I’m a shore kid which is where I was raised. Perfectly functional English. Not your first languge or just generally flailing about trying to land a hit?

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  13. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Last year, I witnessed a mob of intoxicated, violent teens being dispersed by the police. Afterwards there were ripped up fences, destroyed letterboxes, broken glass everywhere and even an overturned port-a-loo. And some people have the gall to blame the police?

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  14. RRM (9,433 comments) says:

    So you missed out on the ‘spoiled’ part of that then Murray?

    Why don’t you head up to Castor Bay Beach Party 2 and get on the lash with your brothers & sisters if you are one of them?

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  15. backster (2,076 comments) says:

    And her a nice little Jewess too.

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  16. Poliwatch (335 comments) says:

    No doubt Laura Petrova Isaac will blame the media -it’s all their fault :-)

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  17. RKBee (1,344 comments) says:

    The good thing with Facebook parties is the police know who the people are their ages where the parties are and how many are likely to attend.

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  18. tvb (4,199 comments) says:

    She and her parents should be charged with planning to organise a riot.

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  19. RightNow (6,647 comments) says:

    Is the location already subject to a liquor ban? I’d be making sure it is by the weekend. I’d also get a fire ban in place.

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  20. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    RightNow, I went to have a look for signage on Monday evening but couldn’t see any (but they may have been ripped out?)

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  21. James (1,338 comments) says:

    What happens when the Mob or Killer Bees arrive and tear shit up? You just know there will be those “others” who will attend for the chance to start a riot and make their name…

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  22. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Social networking sites like facebook make people (especially the young ones) dumb. Illiterate people who wouldn’t or couldn’t survive in a face to face debate in pre-internet days because they lack knowledge but they have come out to get engaged in online public debates. Not because they have knowledge, but because Google is their friend. If a topic they have no clue about is discussed online, then they Googled & posted a link from somewhere relating to the topic on discussion & trying to make it as their opinions even though they never knew anything about the topic in depth prior to the discussion. You find those ones here & lots of them, the pete george, et al.

    I also noticed that young people of today are so enamoured in the use of social networking sites, but their general knowledge is pretty much empty than the same generations from a decade or 2 ago, despite the instant information access of today. I suspect that they use it for time wasting activities rather than using them for educational benefits. Kids that I coach in the evening, I’ve told their parents to limit their kids access to the internet because they will use it for time-wasting activities, unless it is a site related to math lessons that I recommended them to allow their kids to get access to. Kids should play with their legos or do physical activities rather than wasting time on the internet watching that idiot Fred Goes Swimming.

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  23. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    backster (782) Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    And her a nice little Jewess too……

    WTF sort of comment is that

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  24. PaulL (5,872 comments) says:

    I’m not sure that “kids these days” are noticeably worse than kids in the past. Certainly I remember my brother being arrested for calling the police pigs as they broke up a party. Didn’t make him any more likely to respect them last time.

    The reality is that adolescents have always had difficulty making good decisions. Current generation no different than past ones. And it doesn’t indicate that the world is falling apart. Once they’ve spent a few years making bad decisions, and if they survive, the scars from those bad decisions will help them to make better decisions in the future.

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  25. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    I agree completely with what Pauleastbay said – no need for offensive epithets such as backster used.

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  26. RightNow (6,647 comments) says:

    Rodders, looking through the North Shore liquor ban areas it doesn’t seem to be covered. Just about everywhere else is though.

    http://www.northshorecity.govt.nz/Services/PublicHealthWellbeing/Liquor/Pages/PermanentOvernightLiquorBans.aspx

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  27. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Thanks RightNow

    Castor Bay may be covered by ” East Coast Bays – All beach and foreshore reserve areas and adjoining carparks”? I guess that would cover all the beaches from Castor Bay to Long Bay (hopefully)

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  28. BeaB (2,057 comments) says:

    Isn’t it a bugger when kids decide to enjoy the bays and parks and upset the staid old residents because they are having fun. OK a few may misbehave but that’s youth for you. Oh to be young again, half pissed and with a fit young lad!

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  29. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    So BeaB, you would be happy if they ripped out your fence or pulverised your letterbox?

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  30. BeaB (2,057 comments) says:

    Steady on, Rodders.

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  31. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    I’ve seen it happen in my own area, BeaB

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  32. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    If it s a liquor ban area, how do the mature commentators here have a glass of plonk at the Sunday picnic?

    Its the councils legislating the foreshore away.

    Liquor bans – sledge hammer on flies

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  33. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Yes Paul, but if the hoons are going to behave like flies, they shouldn’t complain if someone comes at them with a swat. Badly behaved minorities can ruin things for the majority, but sadly that has always been the case.

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  34. RightNow (6,647 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay – the liquor bans are usually from 10pm at night to some time the following morning.
    BeaB – a few kids having fun is a bit different to hundreds of kids causing property damage. I think that’s why the dilemma – do the police act beforehand and stop what could just be harmless fun, or do they wait until there is proof that it is out of hand and risk it escalating into violence and property damage.
    Apart from that, could these kids have their fun without alcohol being involved?

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  35. adze (1,857 comments) says:

    100db’s of Mozart, stat!

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  36. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Haha adze, that reminds me of this item I read on the net:

    “A German sewage-treatment plant is saving $1,200 a month by using the music of Mozart to motivate microbes to break down waste faster. “We think the secret is in the vibrations of the music, which penetrate everything—including the water, the sewage and the cells,” said Anton Stucki, chief operator of the Treuenbrietzen plant. “It creates a certain resonance that stimulates the microbes and helps them to work better.” Stucki believes Mozart works because the composer “managed to transpose universal laws of nature into his music. “

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  37. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,790 comments) says:

    Does Lyen Brown possess any water cannon? Probably not.

    Do a couple of hundred inmates of Papakura Barracks need a little unarmed combat practice assisting the police arrest a few hundred snotty nosed acne pocked pissed young delinquent NZers?

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  38. Pete George (22,774 comments) says:

    Haha Rodders, that reminds me this item off the ‘net – maybe it’s the same effect….

    When Beethoven passed away, he was buried in a churchyard. A couple of days later, the town drunk was walking through the cemetery and heard some strange noise coming from the area where Beethoven was buried. Terrified, the drunk ran and got the priest to come and listen to it. The priest bent close to the grave and heard some faint, unrecognizable music coming from the grave.

    Frightened, the priest ran and got the town magistrate.

    When the magistrate arrived, he bent his ear to the grave, listened for a moment, and said, “Ah, yes, that’s Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony, being played backwards.”

    He listened a while longer, and said, “There’s the Eighth Symphony, and it’s backwards, too. Most puzzling.” So the magistrate kept listening, “There’s the Seventh… the Sixth… the Fifth…”

    Suddenly the realization of what was happening dawned on the magistrate. He stood up and announced to the crowd that had gathered in the cemetery, “My fellow citizens, there’s nothing to worry about. It’s just Beethoven decomposing.”

    If the sewage-treatment plant played their Mozart backwards it might decompose the sewerage even faster.

    The police could try the playing Barry Manilow trick at Castor Bay.

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  39. adze (1,857 comments) says:

    Rodders, Mozart gets shit done.

    Maybe Len Brown could give a few numbers down Castor Bay…

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  40. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Not sure about playing Barry Manilow, Pete. The residents might consider that is a price not worth paying ;)

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  41. david (2,535 comments) says:

    Speaking of Brown, where is the leadership on these parties and the ensuing property damage.

    FFS Len …. SAY SOMETHING

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  42. Paulus (2,496 comments) says:

    I hope that Laura Petrova Isaac does not try for a serious job because her facebook etc will be looked at by any real employer. But don’t fear she will make a good teacher, right up her street.
    These raves are not new. Over 10 years ago we lived at Cheltenham Beach and it was not unusual for the children to run amok, and seek protection in the parents million dollar property gardens from the police.
    Good old Taka Grammer, Westlake Girls and Boys and of course Rango College.
    Will they ever learn? Probably not, as there are no consequences.

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  43. wreck1080 (3,726 comments) says:

    bring back smacking

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  44. Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left (762 comments) says:

    What does the law say about a bunch of adults raising funds to hire a plane, full it with tear gas cannisters, and accidentally dropping them on a beach?
    Im in for $20

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  45. immigant (950 comments) says:

    Police need proper powers and less of the liberal hippie bullshit that has been going on for the last 10 years. Cops are to be feared and respected and they should be able to lay some smack down. When I was in school in AGS year and years ago, we actually had to run from the cops when they arrived because we knew that if they caught you they would treat deal to you regardless of parents. But then again you had families where, when the son and his friend turned up at 10am on a Sunday morning, handcuffed to gather after escaping the paddy wagon, the old man just laughed and showed them where the hack saw was.
    Part of the blame is sits squarely with the parents, the other half I blame on the fact that if you are white, have cash for a lawyer and/or have mom and dad who are good with words, you pretty much can get away with murder.

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  46. grumpyoldhori (2,410 comments) says:

    What are the rules on a home invasion ? can you shoot a couple in the legs as they rampage through your property or do you have to wait until the sods are breaking your door down ?

    Why not a hint to the anti terrorist squad that this mob is bent on causing real trouble ?
    Or would that be unfair to those who cause trouble and live on the shore ?

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  47. Sarkozygroupie (189 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay (565) Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 11:55 am
    backster (782) Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    And her a nice little Jewess too……

    WTF sort of comment is that

    Just ignore the troll Pauleastbay. Knuckle draggers don’t deserve oxygen.

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  48. MikeNZ (3,234 comments) says:

    simple
    the Police can and should arrest anyone who organises a public party like this and it goes wrong.
    lets have a few people in jail and very out of pocket as they get sued for damages and costs by Police, Municipalities and other territorial agencies and private owners and businesses
    then they can learn about responsibility and accountability.
    welcome to the real world.
    also lets get them banned from FB & Social Media for 5yrs

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  49. immigant (950 comments) says:

    I dunno about the social media ban. But I like the idea of sueing people. It would be so easy to prove who did it too.

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  50. MikeE (555 comments) says:

    I’d say the only reason half these kids want to go to this is because the attention that the herald and media have given it. It adds to the “cool” factor when everyone else is telling you its bad.

    Expect to see these sort of out of control parties in the suburbs increase if/when the drinking age ever goes up on licenced premises.

    I also wonder how much dodgy reporting there is in this, and how much of its just a bunch of kids talkign themselves up. I remember seeing a similar party (that I was DJing at) end up on the Noise Control programme on TV3. Its amazing what some creative editing, splicing in some stock footage of other events, and general hysteria can do to make something pretty innocent appear out of control.

    These parties though, are like winston peters, they only gain popularity when people are screaming about them in the media, don’t give them any attention and they will dissapear.

    As a side note, have just added the organiser on facebook – figure they must know how to promote gigs :P

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  51. MikeE (555 comments) says:

    in other words, the herald article is the best form of promotion money can’t buy…

    I note that the attendees number has increased by thousands since Granny Herald got on the case…

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  52. Akaroa (535 comments) says:

    I just read the comments about a blogger’s use of the term ‘jewess’ with interest. It seems evident that at least one other blogger took the use of that perfectly correct and non-abusive descriptive term as indicating some sort of ethnic/racial bias on the part of the blogger who used it.

    Are we – society I mean – actually moving to a new level of Political Correctness wherein it is a no-no to even refer to person’s ethnicity or nationality for fear of being accused of racism? I wait for the day when to call me a ‘Pom’ or my neighbour a ‘Scotsman’ become grounds for taking offence or labelling the speaker/writer racist and running to the celebrated Race Relations Concilliator! (Not!!)

    Tis a crazy, crazy world we live in, n’est-ce pas?

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  53. southtop (262 comments) says:

    the police have the powers to sort this however [time for a selection of possibilities]:
    a. cant be bothered as there is no money to be made from this, more profit in traffic work
    b. too many other higher end crimes to solve, lack of resources in right places (this does not mean H.Q.)
    c. why bother when teh courts need viagra; police do all the work and the little sods get a fine which they never pay
    d. go in and sort it and then all the liberal twats get up in arms about police brutality, why bother
    e. all of the above

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  54. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Akaroa

    Dont’ be disingenuous I am the least politically correct person I know for many many miles around but Backsters comment was a troll and a nasty little comment to boot.

    I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and think that Akaroa is a place you have visited rather than where you live but if you live in Canterbury your comment does not surprise me.

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  55. backster (2,076 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay……………..I made that comment without any intent to offend whatsoever. I admire Jewish people as those I have had contact with have invariably displayed courtesy and self discipline. I considered her name indicated Jewish ancestry which made her behaviour unusual. Your last comment indicates you are misguided in your conception about yourself. I’ve been commenting on this blog for about 5 years and yours is the first personal attack on me.

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  56. Rex Widerstrom (5,254 comments) says:

    OMGZ!! Teh kidz is attacking muh lettabox!!111!!

    130 kids. 1 report (according to the Herald story) of property damage. Heavy handed police response. More property damage as 129 kids take offence at being told to stop enjoying themselves.

    Which is not to say random beach parties are necessarily to be encouraged, but so long as there are teenagers they’re going to want to drink and dance and possibly… *gasp*… make out.

    They used to do it… if those of you tut tutting in disapproval can cast your minds back… at “dances” (or if you’re a little younger, “discos”). Of course no self-respecting teen would be seen at either thing now, but the principle’s the same…

    Find a beach well away from people’s homes. Set up a perimeter of low profile police, whose main job is to keep the older trouble makers out, not interfere with the kids. Chuck on a few bands to attract them there and not to some random event. Everyone’s happy.

    In Australia the police have tried for years to control “schoolies week” behaviour with riot squad tactics, and failed. But they at least have learned.

    While you can never be 100% successful – there are always a few dickheads who aren’t really there to have a good time, but to use it as a cover for their stupidity – they’re generally very effective at ensuring the kids make it through in one piece, property survives undamaged and no one is kept awake all night by using exactly that sort of containment strategy.

    Oh, and well done the Herald reporter, sub and editor that let that story go through in that form. I mean you twats never said anything akin to Laura’s statement when you were that age, did you? Or was it just that you’re lucky social networking didn’t exist so the media of the day didn’t get to demonstrate what sad little gits you were?

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  57. immigant (950 comments) says:

    MikeE

    Regarding adding the organizer to your twatterbook because she can throw a party.

    Weak.
    A pissup on the beach outside your mom’s house is not a party. Not a party that requires any skills to put together in any case. You are confusing, being ‘popular’ on facebook in highschool with actual networking or social skills that have values outside the schoolyard.
    Still trying to tap the youff market to boost your own facebook stats no doubt.

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  58. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Backster and Akaroa, my NZ dictionary describes the term as “now often offensive”, while a US online dictionary states it is “offensive” http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Jewess. However, if you know members of the Jewish community who are happy to be described that way, so be it.

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  59. heathcote (101 comments) says:

    Where did you immigrate from, immigrant? Obviously not an English language country.

    Have you considered emigrating, immigrant?

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  60. immigant (950 comments) says:

    heathcote

    Learn to read. I’m an ‘ignant immigant’. You might wanna ‘immigate’ to a country that can read Engluish cuz and understand accents too. Dumb ass.

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  61. Sarkozygroupie (189 comments) says:

    backster (784) Says:

    November 17th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
    Pauleastbay……………..I made that comment without any intent to offend whatsoever. I admire Jewish people as those I have had contact with have invariably displayed courtesy and self discipline. I considered her name indicated Jewish ancestry which made her behaviour unusual. Your last comment indicates you are misguided in your conception about yourself. I’ve been commenting on this blog for about 5 years and yours is the first personal attack on me.

    Backster

    It’s a very good attempt to pass yourself off as innocent, but you have failed.

    If you knew anything about Jews and Jewish culture you certainly wouldn’t be using such a pejorative term, and if you widely admire all the Jewish people you’ve met you would show more respect. While on one level it may be correct terminology that indicates a female Jew, it is is widely considered and has been for a very long time to be a term of abuse. It is a name that was used in England in the late 1800′s to denigrate Jewish women, just as ‘Juden” is a prefectly legitimate description of a Jew but also a monumental term of abuse. A yellow star also indicated a Jew – perfectly innocent – and guess what happened there? Do you also talk about ‘negroes and negresses’ because that’s equally correct terminology.

    As for your wholly patronising comment that you admire Jewish people because the ones you’ve come across “invariably display courtesy and self discipline”, you are insulting. Self discipline? Do you comment on other ethnic groups you come across on their ability to practice self-discipline as if it didn’t come naturally to them, and as a unconscious behaviour? What exactly were you doing with the Jews that put you and them in a scenario that they had to display said self discipline that you admire so much? Drinking coffee in a cafe? Chatting? Drinks on a night out? Office meeting?

    And as for this comment: “I considered her name indicated Jewish ancestry which made her behaviour unusual. ”

    Again if you knew anything about Jews you would know that Judaism is matrilineal. A so-called “Jewish” surname as you opine does not indicate a halachic Jew, it merely indicates the father has some kind of Jewish ancestry – maybe his mother was Jewish, and maybe not.

    Apart from which why have you singled out this girl for her “unusual behaviour” just because she is Jewish? Do you really think that all Jews are well behaved like cowering pack animals just because you’ve met a few (how did you know, did they tell you or could you work it out yourself from their hooked noses)? This kind of comment borders on Aryan thinking that Jews are a group to be singled out.

    What other ethnic groups have you met that you ascribe this thinking to? It is my guess you don’t treat other ethnic groups as a pack with homogenous behaviour. It is not hard to see you hiding behind that abhorrent and antisemetic line of holding Jews to a higher standard than others, because they are Jews.

    Akaroa – you are disingenuous and ill-informed.

    So now that you’ve both tried to hijack the thread and turn it into an issue about a alleged Jewish girl’s behaviour lets get back to what its really about. One silly girl’s comments on Facebook (who may or may not be Jewish) and a bunch of teenagers who are all contributing to the bad behaviour.

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  62. backster (2,076 comments) says:

    Sarkozy………If you are of the faith and culture that find the term I used offensive I apologise. I will not use the term again. I often make light hearted one line pithy comments. All your assumptions concerning me are wrong but as you don’t accept my word then further discussion is pointless.

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  63. Sarkozygroupie (189 comments) says:

    Backster,

    I was so non-plussed I didn’t look at Kiwiblog for some days afterwards and have just come back to this thread today. If you get around to reading this then thank you, you’re apology is accepted. Regardless of one’s faith and culture, it was my duty to stand up for Jews against such comments (that, in your case were, I accept in good faith, innocent.) Such comments though are generally said with malice, and over email it is difficult where nuance is lacking. Please feel free to carry on with your pithy comments though.

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