Now his fondest memory
November 9th, 2010 at 2:13 pm by David FarrarI blogged previously about Kris Faafoi’s remarkable memory, when on Q+Q he claimed to remember McDonalds coming to Porirua, at the age of one.
I also blogged on his pamphlet which talks about how he had a great start because his family lived in Mana, when the truth is his immediate family lived in Christchurch.
The McDonalds line was dismissed as:
He has since said he “mis-spoke”, and meant to say he had heard it was the first McDonald’s in the country and it was where he had his first McDonald’s burger.
However a Porirua Citylife reader tells me the following quote appeared in the local newspaper on 3 November – three days after the Q+A interview:
Some of his fondest memories include going to the opening of New Zealand’s first McDonalds, which he proudly boasts was in Porirua.
“It was like a family playground for me at that time,” he says.
It’s one think to mis-speak in a live debate. Quite another to repeat it to a newspaper.
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November 9th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Kris Faafoi is proving himself to be nothing but Phil Goff’s show pony. He has been caught out lying. I would Vote for Matt McCarten before I would vote for this guy (if I was ever going to vote left) – but instead the citizens of Mana have the choice and should instead vote for the excellent Hekia who will be an excellent MP for Mana.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Look – this is Mana. Labour could stand a lying carpet-bagger as their candidate and he would probably win.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Typical Labour liar – you sadly cannot expect less – that is the way they think – very sad.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
The newspaper may have taken the line from Q+A without rechecking it with Faafoi.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Hekia Parata and Matt McCarten are both outsiders too, having not spent their formative years in Mana, but neither of those candidates are pretending otherwise.
I think this shows just what a political novice Faafoi is, as his consciousness about not coming from Mana is a huge self-exposed weakness.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Hey, this man is an accomplished liar, so why isn’t he standing for Labour-lite in Mana?
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
“It was like a family playground for me at that time,” he says.
Maybe his memory is a bit creative, but boasting that MacDonalds is just like home is not a great endorsement either. How likely is a commercial sheep to also be a political sheep?
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
I think Kris is a big fat mis-speaker.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Brian Smaller. You are absolutely right. I saw, on TV, a woman in Mana being interviewed on the upcoming election. She was asked who she would vote for, and she said that she was voting Labour. When asked who the Labour candidate was, she said “I dunno.”
You are also right in that Labour is standing a lying carpet-bagger.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
I bet if you ask Kris Faafoi about all the work he used to do for the National Party he might have a memory failure!
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Who cares. They have it with the carpet bagger. The Labour faithful, who don’t follow the machinations of Politics simply don’t care.
Their horizon is a bigger hand-out and other associated benefits.
The Elite luvvies are in it for themselves, and are content to handover other peoples money to keep them at the trough.
Power, money and privilege. A heady combination. Lying is an easy route to getting to the top of that greasy pole.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
“Lying is an easy route to getting to the top of that greasy pole.”
That’s an image I could do without…
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
This Mana by election is rapidly becoming a debate between Matt and myself. Hekia seems to be tired, Chis is not really firing at all and Logie just gets more and more quirky. I must say I am enjoying this campaign hugely. People of Mana are actually very receptive to the ACT message. The big parties remain debt managers whereas ACT is the only wealth-creating aspirational pary in the race for Mana. People in the area really do want to get ahead.
Vote:I am saddened that the people of eastern Porirua continue to vote Labour when they recieve no return at all for thie votes. ACT could help them immeasurably though they will never know it. At the end of it all it is not about Fafoi lying (we expect that from Labour) it is about whether Fafoi will be able to do anything to help the poorest and most vulnerable-I think not.
I am the only true local having lived for 12 years in this electorate and I become more and more convinced each day that I am the only candidate who really cares about the place. The center right would do well to give me their vote. Thenthey would have Colin du Plessis as their Mana MP and Hekia as their list MP. Both of usworking together and both oriented towards what is best for Mana. On top of that Key gets a sixth ACT ally to counter the Maori Party’s five. Key needs to do less of these costly deals with Maori and all of us win.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Mispeaking must be catching – where did jonh key say Hekia lives?
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
“I am saddened that the people of eastern Porirua continue to vote Labour when they recieve no return at all for their votes.”
What do you expect? A great majority of them do not have a brain or any grey matter in their heads, and will vote for whom they are ordered or told. Unfortunately, that’s democracy.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Well firstly to the initial post. I think it is likely that Chris gave his interview to the paper before Q&A as they will have lead times before printing etc. It was only after Q&A when the shit started flying that he’s had to come back with his corrections.
In any case I find it interesting that Chris is already going down the “technically correct” statement route, when it is readily apparent that those statements are misleading and deceptive. One can only imagine how quickly that slippery slope will be travelled once he’s elected.
I was at the Mana bye-election special at the Sandbar. What I took from it:
* Matt came through it the best I thought. Unfortunately he is aligned with Sue Bradford and I will never place a vote that advances that witch.
* Hekia did appear tired. And a lot older than her campaign photo’s
However the most notable part was how the Labour contingent were extremely rude, and consistently shouted down Hekia and Hekia alone. One notable short fat fuck who was not far from me was the main shouter. He wasn’t very happy when I eventually put a finger into his face and told him to shut it but quickly reversed when I put my 6’3″ in front of his 5’8″.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
@Manolo “A great majority of them do not have a brain or any grey matter in their heads, and will vote for whom they are ordered or told. Unfortunately, that’s democracy.”
That is quite uncalled for. I have friends in those areas. The truth behind the matter is that Labourites are consumate liars. Both major parties are so busy chasing popularity that neither are prepared to take make the hard decisions that are needed to bring improvements for all. While Labour continues to tell people they are failing because “rich prick” are stealling from them, of course labour is going to have a constituency. And on top of that Labour is a prime example of “a government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always rely on the support of Paul”
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Surely, this must be Kris Faafoi’s fondest memory : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfHVTlXIUyk
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
CJD – have you been doorknocking with Roger Douglas yet???
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
This aspiring Labour MP has been caught out lying whilst campaigning and instead of apologising, defends the lying by saying he mis-spoke”.
The real worry is that if he is prepared to behave like this as a candidate (not being accountable and responsible for what he utters) then it is quite likely he will behave the same if/when he is elected an MP.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Monty suggests:
Well that’s a worry, because till Fa’afoi switched jobs, Goff was his show pony. Poor Phil, no wonder he misspoke on most everything. Hopefully the new hire has that rare and elusive quality missing from the Labour Leader’s office… you know… competence.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
***mis-spoke”, ***
Such a great euphemism for politicians, best used by Hillary Clinton.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/clinton-misspoke-about-bosnia-trip-campaign-says/
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
How Farrar can write this inane crap and keep a straight face is extraordinary. If this is the best he can find, and it obviously is, then the byelection must be incredibly boring.
For penance he should be required to write out one thousand times:
”Dear John, Hekia Parata does not live in the Mana electorate”
Did John misspeak? Should he apologise?
[DPF: Yes John was mistaken. Note he was talking about someone else, not about something he has first hand knowledge of. Hekia has been very careful to state accurately her connection with Mana.
All I'm asking for is Labour to tell the truth. Sorry that this upsets you so much]
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
K.jones-no, why?
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
You’ll have to try harder than that Maggie; Matt McCarten has come in and pissed all over the Labour parade; the Goffice is NOT amused
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Is that a deliberate lie? Brings to mind you’re previous blog on how it is illegal to deliberately lie in an election:
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/11/labour_mp_loses_seat_for_election_lies.html
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
What we need is a fearless journalist to follow this up, we need somebody to dig out the dirt on MP’s or prospective MP’s who tell lies.
We need a journalist who has shown a steely determination to go for the jugular in the past, one who made their name checking to see what MP’s had been economical with the truth.
Time to call in Fran Mou…….oh hang on a moment, better yet, lets call in Kris Faaf……..bugger.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
You’ll have to do much better than that Inventory2. With a bit more effort may be you could strive to become Inventory1?
Farrar, I’d have a tad of respect for you if you occasionally asked your gods in the National Party to tell the truth. Or is that beyond you?
Shouldn’t John apologise? Or is telling lies about someone else respectable?
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
@CJD: Is it true that you told a National Party selection meeting that the problem with the National Party is too many Maori and too many women? Or did you just mis-speak as well?
(I can call on several witnesses to that one, don’t deny it.)
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
So what’s wrong with pointing out the truth???
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
CJD – sorry for the delay, – you should go for it – it would be a fun test of whether the electorate is “very receptive to the ACT message”.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
Can anyone find out when that McDs got a play ground. There weren’t many playgrounds at Auckland McDonalds when I was a kid except at New Lynn.
Vote:November 9th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
“You’ll have to do much better than that Inventory2. With a bit more effort may be you could strive to become Inventory1?
Farrar, I’d have a tad of respect for you if you occasionally asked your gods in the National Party to tell the truth. Or is that beyond you?
Shouldn’t John apologise? Or is telling lies about someone else respectable?”
Oh goodie, here comes Labour’s blog police … piss off you silly bint.
Vote:November 10th, 2010 at 1:08 am
Farrar, I’d have a tad of respect for you if you
Then why do you keep commenting here? Why don’t you just fuck off?
Vote:November 10th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Plenty of research shows that when asked to recall events before their fifth birthday adults real of a series of major events which prove to be quite wrong although normally based on some real event.
I have run this experiment around our family table at Christmas etc and it is fascinating to see how wrong these early memories can be.
It seems that as young kids we hold a few scraps of memory of an event, but then over the next few years build up a more complete (but wrong) picture as a result of overhearing comments from other members of the family.
You might like to test your own early memories against reliable witnesses and find how wrong they are.
Vote:It does not make you a liar. Just a normal human being trying to make sense of the early events that impacted on your emerging consciousness.
November 10th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Owen, that will be more prevalent the earlier back the memories are, but the same thing continues throughout our lives.
Memories are not facts, they are coloured constructs.
Vote:November 10th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Mr Farrar I find it interesting that you want a higher standard of accuracy/integrity from Kris Faafoi than from John Key. Kris is remembering something from his early childhood Mr Key sees Hekia at least weekly? Has he remebered his meetings with the Exclusive Brethren yet?
Vote:November 10th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
@K.jones Thanks for the reply. When I say the electorate is very responsive to the ACT message I am finding that young mums who have no interest in politics generally and are interested in what is best for their families are being very open minded. It cannot be denied that ACT is all about growing the economy and building wealth for all New Zealanders. In stark contrast the two large parties are about spending existing money in a vain attempt at poverty management.
Vote:I am pleased the ordinary decent Kiwis are not buying into the negative media stereotypes. We all know that attacks on ACT have nothing to do with ACT per se, but is a choreographed move by the left to bring down the Key goverment by denying him an ally.
ACT is and remains the only party comitted to the types of economic growth and subsequent job creation that will help the Pacific communites of Porirua. They may not vote for us, but they sure as hell need the benefits of our policy. No one else can or will help them.
November 10th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
ACT is and remains the only party comitted to the types of economic growth and subsequent job creation that will help the Pacific communites of Porirua. They may not vote for us, but they sure as hell need the benefits of our policy. No one else can or will help them.
Jeez…you can talk some shit !!!
Why don’t you go back to saffaland and help them poor black folks with your visionary policies instead ?
Vote:November 10th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Hi Pollywog-while South Africa remains comitted to the ridiculous socialist myth I will not waste my time. However mate that is a bit unkind of you-do I “not look or sound Kiwi enough” for you tender sensibilities? And what does it have to do with you should I choose to live in New Zealand. Why don’t you go and offer some of your services to the poor in Africa-my record shows I have done my bit it might now be your turn. All I know is that both major parties have had years to fix things and the people of eastern Porirua stay poor because they have swallowed the labour lies! Shame on you!! Exploiters and liars one and all
Vote:November 10th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
hey Colin…i’ve done and my bit and am just winding up to do a whole lot more
here’s the rub though…
the poor people of Porirua are just as much victims of, and only a generation out from, institutional racism and cultural bias in much the same way as black people in Sth africa are.
‘they’ are poor because we haven’t had the same opportunities to build up a culture of success in education, employment, health, justice and governance as the eurocentric majority and ruling elite, but give us a couple generations more and we should be sweet.
so i’m afraid its gonna take alot more than some do goody saffa with a penchant for bullshit and a nifty line in slagging major parties to turn that around in one single by election.
but hey, don’t let me stop you from trying and it’s not that you don’t look or sound kiwi enough it’s that i don’t think you’ve lived here long enough, or with us, to start telling Pasifikans what to do. How about acknowledging and informing them of the cultural bias by successive eurocentric gov’ts to start with ?
look, i’m all for a good idea, whoever comes up with it, so i’d be keen to hear how you’re gonna grow the economy, build wealth and create jobs for the Pasifikan underclass and not just line yourself up for a good ol swilling by dipping your snout in the parliamentary trough and start sniffing around for a nice taxpayer tit to suckle on for as long as you can.
and if you could offer up that challenge to Fa’afoi and Parata as well i’d be ever so grateful…Ta
Vote:November 10th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Nice comeback Pollywog-just so as you know I have lived here for 12 years, I go to church in Waitangirua and dated a lovely Samoan girl for some time. I am not a Pasifikan as you put it, but why should that stop me working with various communities? In most likelyhood Fafooi will be elected, but what a shame if he is selected on ethnicity and not as the best possible person for the job.
Vote:A little about my own background-I studied at a university that was known for its fight against apartheid and teargas a riot police was a constant reminder that we were getting our message through. As for my family-my father was one of the bravest people I knew, constantly fighting injustice long before it was cool (or safe) for a white dude to do so.
Regardign getting my face in the trough-there are easier ways of making money. And yes I am silly enough to think I can make a difference. That is why I left National who are still just a bunch of know all white dudes who pretend to be inclusive. If I can’t make a positive contribution to this small country then I may as well just give up.
November 10th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Pollywog
“look, i’m all for a good idea”
Really?..the left have not had one in more than ten years, best you stick your head back in the sand and let the NACT government get on with fixing things.
“you’re gonna grow the economy, build wealth and create jobs for the Pasifikan underclass”
Did you ask these questions during the nine years of the Klark government?…….thought not, so stop bloody pretending that you care.
Vote:If you did care you would be asking the pacific underclass why they have not made the most of the opportunities offered to them via the NZ tax payer, ask them why so many of them insist on giving so much of their money to the thieving bloody church and ask them what they have done to improve their chances of gaining meaningful employment.
November 10th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
pollywog
‘They’ are not only victims of institutional racism and cultural bias, they are also victims of their own aristocracy, they were the poor Maori even before white people settled here. The rich-poor divide is strong within Maoridom, if you want to get all “spirit-level” on it. Perhaps in trying to settle treaty obligations the crown should divvy them up between all Maori resident in the region?
That’s my good idea.
Vote:November 10th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Dating a Samoan girl for sometime desn’t quite cut it in my books Colin, and neither does going to church. Now if you’d married her and were a minister, that’d be something
“look, i’m all for a good idea”
it’s fairly obvious you don’t have one bruv, so instead of bitchmoaning and pointing the finger why don’t you ask the Pasifikan underclass those questions yourself and not just make up some silly shit in your head as to why, then report back here with your findings and we’ll compare notes.
I know why, but i’m fucked if i’m gonna do your homework for you. And BTW that whole blame helen schtick is wearing mighty thin eh !!!
RightNow…i agree cashed up iwi should do more outside their rohe to support their own hapu and whanau and that this needs to come from a reassertion of pan national Maori sovereignty by rangatira, not from some corporate elite model.
and given a couple more generations that also will come to pass.
Vote:November 10th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
http://pollywannacracka.blogspot.com/2010/02/trick-of-treatyahhh-flag-it.html
Vote:November 10th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
pollywog
Why the hell should I ask the Pacific underclass those questions?, if they made the choice not to avail themselves of all the opportunities this county offers then that is not my concern.
The difference between you and me is that I do not pretend to care about people who have never made an effort to better themselves, Labour (and the left in general) make lots of noise about the ‘underclass’ (the same underclass that Klark said did not exist) but they did nothing for them in nine long years, you exploit these people for their votes and forget about them until the next election rolls around.
My question to you Pollywog is a valid one, what did Klark and Labour do for the Pacific underclass in her nine year reign of terror?
Vote:November 10th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Why the hell should I ask the Pacific underclass those questions?
well don’t fucken ask ‘em if you don’t want to know the answers. live in blissful ignorance, only spare us the empty rhetoric and do it quietly then eh ?
The difference between you and me is that I do not pretend to care about people who have never made an effort to better themselves…
you just don’t get it do you ? it’s only the current generation who have had the opportunity to better themselves on an even playing field. it’s gonna take more than a couple terms of whatever gov’t du jour to turn around a damaged peoples mindset still reeling from post colonial stress disorder.
…and i don’t exploit anyone for votes, am not afilliated to any political ideology and don’t give a fuck what Clark did in 9 years.
that shit is as much relegated to history as any other eurocentric gov’t thats done fuck all but breed Pasifikan people towards welfare dependency and low wage/low skilled employment
and whats the current eurocentric gov’t doing about it…the very same sweet fuck all !!! so pardon my lack of faith in politicians like Parata, Fa’afoi and CJD who claim they got all the answers.
finally, heres what you can do with your valid question. email Winnie Laban the former Minister for PI affairs in the Clark gov’t and ask her what her legacy for Pasifikan people was during her watch.
i did and got no answer. i guess that means she did fuck all…no surprises there and i’d expect none from her chosen successor either or whoever wins Mana, apart from McCarten.
Vote:November 10th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
I suspect Winnie Labans legacy for Pasifikan people is a fuck of a lot bigger than yours will ever be.
Vote:November 10th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
oh i fucking doubt it Eddie…so what’s hers then ?
What’d she leave behind from her time as Helen’s chief Pasifikan handmaiden ?
Vote:November 10th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Whats yours?
Vote:November 11th, 2010 at 12:18 am
nah…you first champ
i’m Pasifikan and she didn’t do shit for me. if health, education and employment stats for the rest of us are so pisspoor then i gotta wonder what she did in 9 yrs in gov’t that you think makes her legacy worth championing ?
she couldn’t even stick around another term to serve her people in opposition, just chucked it in the too hard basket and opted for a cushy gig in academia !!!
the second to last thing of note she did was bail on nailing Te Heu Heu and English for the PEDA LTD debacle and left it Su’a Sio to flounder his way through it.
the last thing being to annoint some ‘bounty bar’ MSM suckhole in Mana to continue her legacy of token gestures and paying lipservice to the party overseers
in my world you’re only as good as your last gig and she failed us !!!
so yeah, by all means put up or STFU. school me up bro, i dare ya…
Vote:November 11th, 2010 at 10:39 am
@Pollywog “CJD who claim they got all the answers” Not so-I am trying to learn more about the situation so that I can get involved and help where I can. People like you are telling me to stay away because I am a “Whitey”. Taht seems abit racist to me. I think it is in the best interests of all cultured to work together. You attitude can ghetto-ise and marginalise the very people you seek to help.
Vote:The current job (MP for Mana) is only for a year maximum so you have little to lose. Put me to the test-vote Colin du Plessis for Mana on the 20th of November and if I don’t perform, you fire me in thenext election. That is democracy…