Queen Kate

November 17th, 2010 at 6:57 am by David Farrar

Prince William’s engagement to will be the major news story of the day. From what one can tell at a distance, she seems very genuine and down to earth and a good choice for William. In fact she has coped superbly with the years of intensive media coverage/harassment.

It is a bit unfortunate that his private choice, is also a matter of public approval – both in the UK and here. Because William’s marriage to a girl from Leeds, means she will in time become the Queen (consort) of New Zealand.

Now I have to say Queen Kate (or more formally Queen Catherine) is a more pleasant future to look forward to, than Queen Camilla, but it would be nice if one day the marriage of someone in England didn’t have any constitutional significance for us in New Zealand.

But regardless I am looking forward to the royal wedding. I actually will be in the UK next July for a mate’s wedding, so if William can set his date for the same month, I could attend both :-)

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56 Responses to “Queen Kate”

  1. slightlyrighty (2,475 comments) says:

    Dy’a think the honeymoon could co-incide with the RWC in NZ?

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  2. tvb (4,415 comments) says:

    You should make your submission to the Palace to time the wedding while you are in London. I suppose the PM will go, as you said this wedding remains one of constitutional importance to NZ as the having of a healthy child (hope it is a daughter) which I assume will be early on the cards.

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  3. Inventory2 (10,337 comments) says:

    Drop him a line DPF; your fame has spread so far and wide that he’d probably be only too happy to accomodate the Lord of the Blog! He might even ask you to house-sit while they honeymoon ;-)

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  4. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,903 comments) says:

    A closet monarchist, no less?

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  5. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    DPF you are sure there is actually a title “Queen (consort) of New Zealand?

    I don’t recall Phil the Greek ever using such a title.

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  6. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    Is she Catholic? The law of NZ is that Catholics aren’t allowed to be our Head of State or married to one.

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  7. slightlyrighty (2,475 comments) says:

    Murray, the wife of the King, is the Queen. However, if the reigning monarch is a queen, Her husband is known as consort.

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  8. James Stephenson (2,171 comments) says:

    I’m raising a big glass of Who Cares.

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  9. big bruv (13,880 comments) says:

    Good Point davidp, it was bad enough having a Catholic as PM let alone head of state :)

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  10. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    I wasn’t questioning the title of consort slightly, I’m looking at DPF’s emotive use of “of New Zealand”. She will not in fact be in a psotion of anything in relation to New Zealand except that of being the consort of our head of state.

    James if you care that little why not say nothing? Do you think we can;t get by without knowing what you don’t care about on anything?

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  11. James Stephenson (2,171 comments) says:

    Murray, permit me to be a grumpy old git as you are most of the time. The Royal Family and Coronation Street were two things I thought I was leaving behind in Britain and pisses me off to find that people here are, if anything, even more idiotic about both institutions.

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  12. Pete George (23,558 comments) says:

    Don’t despair James. NatRad just said they surveyed people at Wellington Railway Station and said the response was lukewarm at best, with only one in eight expressing any interest in the news.

    If the royal doctor keeps his record up we may not have to worry, we’ll probably be dead by the time they get a chance at the throne. Just don’t buy Woman’s Weekly for a year or two.

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  13. Brian Harmer (687 comments) says:

    Davidp, are you sure about that? Which NZ legislation so specifies?
    Does this apply also to the Governor General? I remember rubbing shoulders with a certain Mr Satyanand, old boy of Sacred Heart College, in Newman Hall, the centre of the University of Auckland’s Catholic Society (Cathsoc) way back in the 60s. To this day he self identifies as a Catholic.

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  14. Manolo (13,735 comments) says:

    Good luck to this young couple.

    Who cares about the lives of the parasites that make up the royal family? The French and Russians set a good example of what to do with them. :-)

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  15. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    Brian H… Who gets to be our Head of State is determined by UK legislation. We just buy in to what ever rules they place on their own Head of State. However, I’d be interested to know whether the UK succession (which preferences males over females, and every other religion over Catholicism) conflicts with EU legislation and could be overturned in the EU courts. If that turns out to be the case, the laws that govern our Head of State might actually be ones passed by Greeks, Lithuanians, and Portuguese.

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  16. Dave Mann (1,218 comments) says:

    I’m pretty much with James on this one but I also am amazed that a young woman can make such a life choice. I can’t imagine voluntarily deciding to throw one’s life away and enter such a mad institution as the Royal Family to be gawked at, hounded by, analysed and yapped about by the tabloid media for the rest of one’s life. It would be like going into an asylum with no earthly hope of reprieve. What a future. She must really love the guy.

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  17. James Stephenson (2,171 comments) says:

    davidp – the UK dropped the “No Catholics” rule some time ago, under Tony Bliar.

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  18. Pete George (23,558 comments) says:

    I thought that even with Diana they were still checking them over to ensure they were the right sort of good girl, it’s hard to imagine this relationship has lasted this long without testing the goodness. The royals are known in more ways than one for being bonkers.

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  19. RRM (9,915 comments) says:

    Good on them – I approve.

    And a much more attractive-looking couple than Dad & Camilla…

    http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2009/10/CAMILLA-CHARLES-HORSE.jpg

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  20. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    James… Not according to Wikipedia, which has never ever been wrong about anything:

    “Succession in the United Kingdom is also governed by the Act of Union 1800, which restates the provisions of the Act of Settlement 1701 and the Bill of Rights (1689). These laws stipulate that those who are not legitimate descendants of Sophia, Electress of Hanover and those who have ever been Roman Catholics, or who have married Roman Catholics, are disbarred from succeeding to the Crown. The descendants of those who are disbarred for becoming or marrying Roman Catholics, however, may still be eligible to succeed.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_to_the_British_throne

    Personally I’m glad that the Head of State of NZ must be a legitimate descendant of Sophia, Electress of Hanover. I shudder to think of the consequences if they were not.

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  21. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Shes not going to be a Catholic and shes not, (Autumn Kelly is the only Catholic to marry into the two thumbs family when she married Peter Phillips )when her husband will end up head of the Church of England.

    She’ll have been checked out to ensure she can breed though.

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  22. Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left (786 comments) says:

    “I’m pretty much with James on this one but I also am amazed that a young woman can make such a life choice. I can’t imagine voluntarily deciding to throw one’s life away and enter such a mad institution as the Royal Family to be gawked at, hounded by, analysed and yapped about by the tabloid media for the rest of one’s life. It would be like going into an asylum with no earthly hope of reprieve. What a future. She must really love the guy.”

    Do you know nothing about women? :)

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  23. gravedodger (1,566 comments) says:

    I only wish them well as being King of England aint what it was. Kate Middleton has embarked on a journey that has great potential to end in tears and so long as our constitutional arrangements remain as they are Kate will become our Queen some day all things being equal.
    At least with this relationship it appears to have come about as a result of two people coming together in a relationship of their creation and not as a result of court pressure to find a suitable vessel for the creation of an heir.
    My very best wishes to them both and my deepest sympathy as they continue to live with the pathetic attempts of the MSM to create news from their lives.

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  24. James Stephenson (2,171 comments) says:

    davidp – it appears that I’m wrong. His Tonyness made a big song and dance about doing away with the Act but then didn’t actually do anything. Gordon had the repeal of the Act of Settlement in his manifesto at the last election and negotiations were under way with the Royals and commonwealth countries it would affect (such as NZ one presumes) “Cast Iron” Cameron has ditched the whole thing.

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  25. Mr Magister (409 comments) says:

    Each of them looks way older than 28. He looks about 40 and she looks 35 (and has done for years).

    (Not that it’s a beauty contest or anything.)

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  26. BeaB (2,123 comments) says:

    Dave Mann I agree. Everyone goes on about how lucky she is to nab a prince. I think the prince is the lucky one to get an ordinary girl who has lived an ordinary life (by royal standards), is a university graduate and has stayed with him for 8 years. I suspect she has enjoyed being out of the intense spotlight and now is ready to start a family.
    Only a curmudgeon would grump about a wedding of two such attractive young people.
    I just hope the media stops banging on about Di and other irrelevancies.

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  27. BlairM (2,339 comments) says:

    I have fond memories of Charles and Di as an impressionable five year old. I’m sure this will be a great celebration.

    I look forward to the day when our own Head of State welcomes King William V and his wife to New Zealand :-)

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  28. Sarkozygroupie (207 comments) says:

    Don’t despair James. NatRad just said they surveyed people at Wellington Railway Station and said the response was lukewarm at best, with only one in eight expressing any interest in the news.

    That was me.

    You may all drive me into the sea, but I am a Royalist and I support the Monarchy as Head of State in NZ.

    I also like to watch Coro too ;)

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  29. big bruv (13,880 comments) says:

    “I look forward to the day when our own Head of State welcomes King William V and his wife to New Zealand”

    It will happen one day Blair……but not in our lifetime.

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  30. s.russell (1,640 comments) says:

    Alas, it would have been much more entertaining if Kate was black. Or Chinese. Nevertheless, I doubt she will ever be Queen of New Zealand.

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  31. tvb (4,415 comments) says:

    I am sure she has been checked that she can breed. Her first duty is to love her husband and give him children as the first male born will be King in due course. I hope it is a girl and then what??

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  32. Sarkozygroupie (207 comments) says:

    What will you all think when H1 becomes the first President of the Republic of New Zealand? And don’t think she won’t have it in her sights.

    This is why I support the monarchy so that witch and others of her ilk in Labour don’t have any chance of really having a crack at destroying this country, even more than they have already tried.

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  33. Brian Harmer (687 comments) says:

    tvb … pretty much the same as happened in the case of the elder daughter of the late king George VI, I imagine.

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  34. Dave Mann (1,218 comments) says:

    Yes, Sarkozygroupie. I am bored by the Royal Family and vaguely disgusted by their stupid antics……. but on the other hand I support the constitutional concept of having a ‘Crown’ which previously acted as a buffer between the people and those like John Key and his Maori separatists who want to steal the country off the people.

    I guess my opinion on the Royals is “Its a bastard of a job, but somebody has to do it.” I just hope that this poor Middleton woman doesn’t find that living in a fishbowl drives her as crazy as others who have been sucked into the asylum that is the House of Windsor.

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  35. tvb (4,415 comments) says:

    Yes but if the second child is a son – what then?? Change the rules so the first born gets it ?? I assume the Spencers will be there including the batty Earl and much else I presume. PM, Princes, Ambassadors, Presidents, the Clintoistas, Bushes, OMG the list goes on and on.

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  36. Sarkozygroupie (207 comments) says:

    Dave,

    She has been in the spotlight for eight years now and seems to have dealt with the pressure pretty well so far. Hope this bodes well.

    The edit button told me I didn’t have the right to edit my comment above – what I wanted to add was that the constitutional arrangements still afford us some limited checks and balances, and this I wholeheartedly support. We have already seen the insidious dismantling of these arrangements with the ill considered and hastily imposed Supreme Court, and then stacked with a socialist judiciary. I’m still furious the right to petition the Privy Council was removed without a mandate by the Labour Government.

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  37. backster (2,171 comments) says:

    It’s very good… His Royal Highness has chosen a coalminer’s grandaughter. I think he should be invited to replace the chap who doesn’t look like a New Zealander as our next Governor General.

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  38. James Stephenson (2,171 comments) says:

    She was only a coalminer’s daughter but…

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  39. RKBee (1,344 comments) says:

    DPF.. I am looking forward to the royal wedding. I actually will be in the UK next July for a mate’s wedding, so if William can set his date for the same month, I could attend both.

    You sound and think like a NZ MP.

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  40. The only red for me is that of Manchester United (60 comments) says:

    This is wonderful news. At least the Royal Family display manners and grace. Sadly lacking in many other areas of life. Many New Zealanders must feel deep paranoid if they think the Royal Family still rule over us. We all know that having Her Majesty as our head of state is a bit silly, but really does it deeply effect us that much?

    I’d worry more about the PSA union in New Zealand trying to unsettle the country than worry about Republicanism.

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  41. annie (539 comments) says:

    I’d love to see the end of the monarchy, but sarkozy has a good point – imagine the dangerous dipsticks we’d appoint in their place -

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  42. rouppe (971 comments) says:

    OK I’ll be the cynic. I give it a year after the wedding before the scandals erupt.

    She’s been waiting 8 years to get the claws all the way in. Once they’re set, she’ll be little Miss Entitlement and Don’t You Know Who I Am. She’s the child of new money and as such won’t have the necessary class to stay out of trouble. She’ll be another Fergie but better looking.

    Just wait for the party photo’s while William is away flying missions for the RAF.

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  43. Manolo (13,735 comments) says:

    Rouppe, your cynicism is astounding. How can you say that about the sweet, good looking, and bride-to-be Miss Middleton? Don’t you know a thing or two about women? :-)

    Jokes aside, I wish this young couple the best in their future life together.

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  44. RRM (9,915 comments) says:

    What a romantic you are rouppe.

    Kate Middleton looks a lot more class than that filthy Zimbabwean ‘Chelsy’ thing that Prince Harry has been knocking off.

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  45. RRM (9,915 comments) says:

    What a romantic you are rouppe.

    And Kate Middleton will always look like class in comparison to that filthy Zimbabwean ‘Chelsy’ thing that Prince Harry has been knocking off.

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  46. RRM (9,915 comments) says:

    FML :-(

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  47. adze (2,126 comments) says:

    Maybe they’d like some Skyhawks as a wedding present…

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  48. William Fussey (45 comments) says:

    I was surprised to read you saying Kate Middleton is from Leeds. I had never read that so I did a bit of a google search. She is from Berkshire (Reading) and was raised there. Her paternal family is from Leeds however.

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  49. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,752 comments) says:

    Will be good to see David grovelling before his betters. That’s King William (Still New Zealand’s Head of State) and Queen Catherine. Probably look something like those Hillary Clinton pictures.

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  50. tristanb (1,127 comments) says:

    What a romantic you are rouppe.

    Yeah, but at least he’s realistic.

    As non-celebrities, it’s hard for normal people to understand how these things work. Celebrities are narcissists without feelings, who use each other to move up in popularity and fame. Not that there’s anything wrong with this, I’d love to be in that situation, it’s just quite sad it’s the lead story on NZ TV news.

    It’s good publicity for everyone I guess – great move using Diana’s ring.

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  51. transmogrifier (522 comments) says:

    10 minutes of this bullshit to start the news tonight…Jesus, who truly gives a crap?

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  52. Steve (4,559 comments) says:

    Well saw my dick off,

    More Royal bullshit, the bigest bludgers in the world

    dilligaf?

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  53. Dazzaman (1,140 comments) says:

    God save the Queen!!

    Repub. scum….lol

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  54. Clint Heine (1,570 comments) says:

    Bookies are giving best odds for July 8th for the big day and we will get a Bank Holiday for it too! Bloooody brilliant. 3 day weekend! I’ll take that!

    When they said the wedding will be Spring or Summer I was concerned, considering finding a hot sunny day over that period could be difficult.

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  55. Return To Sender (14 comments) says:

    Marrying someone from Leeds….a car crash waiting to happen…

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  56. Jeremy Harris (319 comments) says:

    Only a curmudgeon would grump about a wedding of two such attractive young people.

    At an estimated cost already in the tens of millions of pounds I betting there are more than a few UK taxpaying curmudgeons pissed off at having to fit the bill for these two average, white, 20 somethings in this the “age of austerity” (I wish it was)…

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