By-election averted

December 12th, 2010 at 10:15 pm by David Farrar

News just broken on Twitter. has won the nomination for , which makes it a victory for the Service and Food Workers Union over the EPMU.

supporters will be relieved that a by-election has been averted.

Personally I think it is a pretty good choice. Louisa performed pretty well in the last term of Parliament for a rookie MP, and I think she’ll have a successful career as MP for Manurewa. If she doesn’t piss her colleagues off, she should become a Minister in the next Labour Government.

Attention will not shift to Te Atatu selection next weekend. Wall’s victory here should help Twyford win the nomination. If Wall had lost out here, then there would have been more pressure to select a female candidate such as Kate Sutton.

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25 Responses to “By-election averted”

  1. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    “a victory for the Service and Food Workers Union over the EPMU.”

    So Dave Hereora found his red card alright, then?

    Guess this means that George Hawkins no longer has an excuse for throwing his toys out of the cot.

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  2. Rich Prick (1,553 comments) says:

    Labour cannot afford another by-election. So sensible, albeit a bit of a yawn.

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  3. freedom101 (462 comments) says:

    Out of the entire Labour caucus, how many are not one of:
    - ex teacher
    - ex university lecturer
    - ex trade union official?

    I can think of one – David Parker. Who else?

    Just how representative is the Labour Party caucus of NZ at large?

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  4. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Just had a look at Red Alert and saw this post by Darien Fenton:
    http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2010/12/12/manurewa/

    From the tone, I must presume that her post was intended to be read by local primary school pupils.

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  5. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    freedom101, wasn’t David Cunliffe a business consultant? (and don’t forget that he was also an amateur poet http://www.fulbright.org.nz/voices/cunliffed-06.html )

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  6. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    Louisa Wall used to be an MP but was made unemployed in 2008 due to only being ranked 43 on the List. By contrast, Judith Tizard was ranked 38. That is a pretty damning assessment of her capability. What has changed in the last two years?

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  7. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    davidp, have you forgotten all the effort Judith made to sort out Auckland’s infrastructure challenges? ;)

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  8. Rich Prick (1,553 comments) says:

    “have you forgotten all the effort Judith made”

    What, to bake a cake??!! Had to laugh my tits off at that one rodders. Sorry, coming in here and suggesting Judith Tizard did anything of note invites ridicule. She is about as useful as fungus in a fat lady’s folds.

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  9. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    Rodders… I don’t recall Tizard doing much at all for Auckland. But I think what she did for British television comedy makes up for that:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sybil_Fawlty.jpg
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:JudithTizard.jpg

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  10. Shazzadude (505 comments) says:

    “Louisa Wall used to be an MP but was made unemployed in 2008 due to only being ranked 43 on the List. By contrast, Judith Tizard was ranked 38. That is a pretty damning assessment of her capability. What has changed in the last two years?”

    I recall Helen being interviewed on Maori TV prior to the last election, and she said that they wanted to have one Maori candidate on the list every 6 places. It’s possible from that logic that Louisa missed out on a quota.

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  11. Leon (4 comments) says:

    An intelligent, educated, Maori woman who supports real, ‘old fashioned’, M.J. Savage, Labour values wins the Labour nomination for a safe labour seat in South Auckland – about time! Well done Louisa Wall.
    Labour will regain the respect of, and mobilise its working class base if it can continue to select candidates like Wall. Now for Twyford’s victory next week.
    National’s bullet proof armour will start to take a few beatings with people like this becoming Labour’s big hitters.

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  12. Rich Prick (1,553 comments) says:

    Crikey Leon, that’s very party faithful and a nice tilt with achient history and all, also good to see you worked in”working class” there too, of course true workking class are a minority these days. But do steady on and don’t wet the bed now.

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  13. Herman Poole (297 comments) says:

    Ticks all the select by quota rather than merit boxes. Female, Maori, Lesbian, Unionist, and never had a job in the private sector. Bloody good rugby player though.

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  14. Graeme Edgeler (3,267 comments) says:

    Out of the entire Labour caucus, how many are not one of:
    - ex teacher
    - ex university lecturer
    - ex trade union official?

    I can think of one – David Parker. Who else?

    Ruth Dyson
    Annette King (maybe … dental nurse, but also a couple of years as a tutor of dental nurses)
    Darren Hughes
    Charles Chauvel
    Ross Robertson
    Clayton Cosgrove
    Pete Hodgson (vet, though he may have taught briefly?)
    Damien O’Connor
    David Cunliffe
    Parekura Horomia
    Winnie Laban
    Mita Ririnui
    Ashraf Choudhary
    Moana Mackey
    Shane Jones
    Su’a William Sio
    Jacinda Ardern
    Brendon Burns
    Clare Curran
    Chris Hipkins
    Raymond Huo
    Stuart Nash (Director of Strategic Development at AUT – does that count?)
    Rajen Prasad
    Grant Robertson
    Phil Twyford
    David Shearer
    Nanaia Mahuta

    That is, most of them. Though I don’t rule out that I missed something in the biographies of the above.

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  15. Clint Heine (1,563 comments) says:

    Imagine that? Labour may have been pressured into selecting Kate Sutton if Wall didn’t make it. Not on merit mind you, but because she is a female, and a stroppy one at that. If people think Sutton is the future of the Labour Party – then it is doomed. Walls too, obviously rated low on the list, got in for ticking all the Labour boxes, although it seems on paper the other lot were bloody useless as well.

    Leon. You serious? Twyford will be desperate to get this nomination after all the other disasters in his selection career. To call Wall and Twyford big hitters is like me calling Chris Carter a straight shooter. Surely Labour are doomed for another election, especially with Phil “the gift that keeps on giving” Goff in charge.

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  16. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Leon said “National’s bullet proof armour will start to take a few beatings with people like this becoming Labour’s big hitters.”

    Don’t forget that if Phil Twyford wins in Te Atatu and Chris Carter then resigns, Judith could be an MP again.
    Bet National are quaking in their boots at that prospect.

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  17. Viking2 (11,133 comments) says:

    Another Maori in Parliament. Won’t be long and they will own the place rather than just calling all the shots as they do now.

    Maybe someone with some spare time might like to add up all those in there with Maori links. Already a majority and no Ngatai Pakeha or Ngatai Samoan nor any Ngatia anything else.

    All very concerning and clearly a takeover by stealth.

    Of course all with the collusion of Ngatai National and Ngatai Labour.

    Time you all thought more about the consequences of this. Forget about the Treaty its now irrelevant to the future.

    [DPF: What's wrong with having Maori in Parliament? Would you prefer it was a white only Parliament?

    Incidentally it is very rare for Labour to select a Maori candidate for a winnable general electorate seat]

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  18. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Viking2 said “Won’t be long and they will own the place…All very concerning and clearly a takeover by stealth”

    I guess that the previous post is a piss-take?

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  19. Graeme Edgeler (3,267 comments) says:

    My apologies, Ashraf Choudhary was an agricultural scientist who lectured at Massey University. Scratch him from the list above.

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  20. Manolo (13,372 comments) says:

    It shows the tight grip of the Rainbow faction of the Labour Party over the candidate selection process.
    Gay comrades to the fore!

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  21. RightNow (6,666 comments) says:

    davidp (1,552) Says:
    December 12th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
    Rodders… I don’t recall Tizard doing much at all for Auckland. But I think what she did for British television comedy makes up for that: [pics]

    I think you meant Australian comedy… http://www.dame-edna.com/

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  22. s.russell (1,563 comments) says:

    Viking2,
    Counting Maori in Parliament is a little tricky because of definition issues (does someone who is 1/32 Maori and never mentions it count?) But I recall a report of an academic who did such a count shortly after the 2008 election. On a braod definition he made it 22 I think. That’s about 18%. The 2006 census count said NZ had 643,977 people of Maori descent out of a total population of 4,143,279. That’s about 15.5%. So Maori are slightly over-represented. So are Pakeha. I can’t cite exact figures but my guess is Pakeha make up about 78% of Parliament and about 70% of the population. Asian Kiwis are the most under-represented group.

    Rich Prick, Graeme Edgeler,
    I recall making a count before the 2008 election. (Again there are definition issues – I tried to base the count on main pre-MP employment). At that time of the 49 Labour MPs 18 were ex-teachers (including tertiary) (37%!), 13 were ex union employes. Just 5 had a mainly private sector background. The remainder were various kinds of public servant.

    My guess is that the Unions have further boosted their representation as a result of 2008. There also seems to be a growing group of “professional politicians”- whose careers before becoming MPs were mainly as ministerial advisers or party agents.

    By contrast I found that around half of National MPs had primarily private sector backgrounds (including farmers). Farmers and lawyers were the main groups, each in the 15-20% bracket. I note with amusement that this is rather less that it once was. I recall once counting up that 18 of 20 members of the Bolger cabinet were farmers or had farm-related backgrounds! The present caucus and cabinet seems rather better balanced.

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  23. BlairM (2,287 comments) says:

    Citing Wall’s low list ranking as a measure of her abilities assumes that the people who run Labour are themselves competent, intelligent, and consistently acting in the best interests of their party. We know, of course, that this is not remotely the case, so I wouldn’t place much stock in it. Wall is, in fact, a fairly decent sort of person (one of the few in Labour) who was punished for stating the obvious – that she probably could not beat Pita Sharples in Tamaki Makaurau.

    I am pleased that crazy leftist nutjobs are no longer being selected for safe Labour seats. I hope the same result occurs in the more marginal Te Atatu.

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  24. grumpyoldhori (2,410 comments) says:

    Viking2 good lad you are learning, a bit more forelock pulling and yes boss when you see a hori and we may just allow you to stay in the country.

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  25. flipper (3,562 comments) says:

    Mr Edgeler…
    You missed one category…. Lesbian or homosexual.
    Wall is well known as one of the former.

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