MPs pay 2010

December 24th, 2010 at 7:42 am by David Farrar

The Remuneration Authority has heeded the PM’s advice, and has not done a massive pay rise to compensate for loss of the international travel perk.

The perk had been valued at over $9,000 and this value was deducted from MPs remuneration to get their base salary. However the compensation has been set at only $2,000 – recognising that not all MPs were using the perk. This should mean the abolition leads to a net saving for taxpayers. There is a warning that this may just be an interim adjustment until they get advice from IRD on what the value of the travel entitlement was deemed to be.

The general wage incraese is 1.4%, which is at the lower end of the public sector. Also worth noting that there was no increase at all last year.

So the new salaries are:

  1. PM $400,500
  2. DPM $282,500
  3. Cabinet Ministers, Speaker and Oppn Leader $249,100
  4. Ministers outside Cabinet $209,100
  5. Chief Government Whip $184,640
  6. Deputy Leader Labour $180,420
  7. Labour Senior Whip $179,600
  8. Deputy Speaker $174,200
  9. Green Party Leader $161,230
  10. Green Whip $152,130
  11. Assistant Speakers  & Select Committee Chairs $148,500
  12. ACT Whip, Maori Whip, Nat Junior Whip, Lab Junior Whip $148,500
  13. Progressive Party Leader $148,500
  14. Select Committee Deputy Chairs $139,100
  15. Other MPs $134,800
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35 Responses to “MPs pay 2010”

  1. tvb (4,326 comments) says:

    Why is Jim Anderton getting extra. He is a sole MP, of a practically non-existant party, though I believe they do maintain their registration – just.

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  2. KiwiGreg (3,234 comments) says:

    Sure as hell no one with any real ability is going into politics for the money!

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  3. Bruce Hamilton (60 comments) says:

    All MPs apparently perform the same, so obviously performance-based pay only applies to other employees.

    Maybe list MPs should only get 60% of electorate MPs, and electorate MPs should have their salaries split into a base salary and a performance component.

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  4. big bruv (13,686 comments) says:

    Great leadership being shown by our MP’s.

    While those who earn the money (the private sector) have struggled all bloody year, and, week after week we have heard English tell us that times are tough these bastards award themselves a bloody great pay rise.

    It seems if you are a public servant you are immune to the economic crisis, meanwhile those who actually make money have to tighten their belts.

    There is no justification for this, none at all.

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  5. Manolo (13,518 comments) says:

    The given pay rise cannot be justified by any spin-doctoring in the world.
    Across the political spectrum these politicians have shown to be a group of self-serving parasites, again.

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  6. mattyroo (1,020 comments) says:

    Agree 100% KiwiGreg, you wouldn’t get out of bed for it would you!

    I guess that is why we end up with so many fuckwit ideologues in parliament, the likes of mad delahunty think 150 nicker is good money….

    Let’s pay our PM 4 million a year, as they do in Singapore and get someone with the smarts and the cahones to implement real change.

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  7. big bruv (13,686 comments) says:

    I know that many MP’s read Kiwiblog, I challenge one of them to tell us why this pay rise is justified.

    Or…(and I bet there are none of these) I would like to hear from one MP who has refused the pay increase.

    None of them will of course, they will keep their head down while they enjoy a longer holiday (fully paid) than most other Kiwis and hope that it all blows over by the time the house sits again.

    Come October/November the bastards will be back begging for our votes…

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  8. david (2,552 comments) says:

    C’mon BB, since when could that miserable amount be described as “a bloody great pay rise.” By the time you take off tax and super it is hundreds not thousands in the hand.

    On the face of it there is a reduction. Take off $9000 and add back $2000.

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  9. Pete George (23,436 comments) says:

    It seems a very modest increase, in step with the financial situation and with what is happening in the private sector. I don’t know what the fuss is about, this is really just a standard administrative adjustment.

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  10. big bruv (13,686 comments) says:

    david

    Let’s agree to disagree about the amount, can you give me one good reason why this pay rise is justified?

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  11. Viking2 (11,368 comments) says:

    So Kiwi MP’s remain among the Highest paid in the world?

    Few would earn that salary in real job.
    For 4.3 million people democracy sure costs a lot especially when we add the local Govt pollies wages to the sum.

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  12. Monty (975 comments) says:

    $2000 – that should be enough for a return air-fare to Sri Lanka – especially if you wanted to visit a resort that caters for “specialist” desires.

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  13. jaba (2,120 comments) says:

    so many are saying they awarded themselves a pay rise .. no they didn’t
    I understand they got 0% last year and 1.4% this year plus some $ to compensate for a travel reduction. Not too flash.
    I think that is fair. Unions are demanding more than 1.4% for their members but are outraged over this. (teachers wanting 4% for each of the past 4 years to look after 30-35 kids).
    I think the PM and cabinet ministers are under paid for the responsibility they have.
    The issue for me, and many others it seems, is the very good salary paid to those hopeless ones who would have not a hope in hell getting that sort of coin elsewhere .. don’t want to name them all BUT the likes of Chadwick, Pillay, Choudhary, Fenton, Beaumont, Locke, Delahunty, Hughes (Gareth .. and Dazza for that matter), Harawira, Quinn etc come to mind

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  14. kiwigunner (230 comments) says:

    Yes, the best MPs deserve $300k but the worst (say those involved in the PEDA scandal) deserve the short trip to the dole queue. Performance Pay is the only answer. While we are at it – how come they are paid on a collective agreement?

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  15. flipper (3,950 comments) says:

    I do not give a s*** what our MPs and Ministers get paid.
    But I object to:
    1. Senior State employees being paid more than Cazbinet Ministers. (When didcx Hughes of social welfare ever “eazrn”, as opposed tyo distribute or useds taxpayers dfollars?)
    And
    2.

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  16. flipper (3,950 comments) says:

    CORRECTION….

    I do not give a s*** what our MPs and Ministers get paid.
    But I object to:
    1. Senior State employees being paid more than Cabinet Ministers. When did Hughes of social welfare ever “earn”, (as opposed to distribute or use, taxpayers dollars?)
    And
    2. Judges being paid more than Ministers.

    (Judges do not take up their appointments for dollars . They do it for reasons of ego and status. They can do that at their cost.)

    Key (or any PM) works 24 hours a day 365. Sean Fletcher (aka Elias) works how many days a year?????
    In any event, like Key, she doesn’t really need the stipend if she can “afford” to engage in race horse partnerships.

    But more to the point, the US has this system right.

    No US Supreme Court Judge or US federal employee gets paid more than the President or the Speaker of their House.

    It is time to abolish this rubbish NZ system which seems to be perpetuated by ex “public” servants or political hacks friendly to the ‘crazts.

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  17. jakejakejake (134 comments) says:

    How much did their tax-free booze allowance get increased by?

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  18. Jinky (183 comments) says:

    Why was it backdated to July? When we negotiated a 1.5% rise with our employers (DHBs) backdating was non-negotiiable.

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  19. Gooner (995 comments) says:

    I have no problem with this. I actually feel sorry for the politicians having to vote on it. It should be set by the RA and that’s it; it shouldn’t be left to the MPs to vote on it.

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  20. lofty (1,310 comments) says:

    Whats the problem here???

    The money is shit for the job…. I wouldn’t get out of bed for

    # Chief Government Whip $184,640
    # Deputy Leader Labour $180,420
    # Labour Senior Whip $179,600
    # Deputy Speaker $174,200
    # Green Party Leader $161,230
    # Green Whip $152,130
    # Assistant Speakers & Select Committee Chairs $148,500
    # ACT Whip, Maori Whip, Nat Junior Whip, Lab Junior Whip $148,500
    # Progressive Party Leader $148,500
    # Select Committee Deputy Chairs $139,100

    The problem is that some of these cretins even get that! In particular scum list MP’s.

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  21. Put it away (2,878 comments) says:

    Manolo, try not to be a dishonest retard your entire life. Take five minutes off. This is not a rise, this is less than rate-of-inflation. Given that this covers two years, it’s WAY less than rate of inflation.

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  22. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Fuck I’m going to stick to milking cows, and at least when they shit on ya you can wash it away.

    Bloody pay rise of 1.4%, fucking unbelievable. So pray tell did our GDP rise by 1.4% , are our borrowings down more then 1.4% this year? I fucking think not. There is not one jot of justification for this wage rise. But let the clowns live in their fantasy world, these pricks need a lesson in physics, you can’t create something out of nothing and that goes for pay increases to. I fail to understand the logic in these peoples minds, I assume wage increases will come from further borrowing, at what stage in these politicians universe does the devil collect his dues. Yes play now little grasshoppers winter is just over the horizon.

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  23. MT_Tinman (3,102 comments) says:

    Given that communists don’t need money – they all work for each other and share everything equally – why are Labour, Red, etc. pollies paid at all?

    Surely they should be given expenses only.

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  24. backster (2,141 comments) says:

    It is hard to see any justification for even a 1% increase when the Nation has been delivered an almost return to recession due to a continuation of Labour Policies that delivered us into recession in the first place. Even more outrageous is the 15-16 grand increases to the Judiciary whose overall performance has also been pathetic especially the Supreme Court with its 22 sitting days a year and apparent lack of business. Meanwhile the productive sector struggles to survive.

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  25. Red Sam (122 comments) says:

    Apparently there was a time (through the 1970s?) when a back bench MPs salary was tagged to that of a secondary school teacher. My how times have changed. The MP’s increase, some of which is in the thousands, is totally unjustified when the tories are constantly preaching and implementing greater austerity.

    “The issue for me, and many others it seems, is the very good salary paid to those hopeless ones who would have not a hope in hell getting that sort of coin elsewhere .. don’t want to name them all BUT the likes of Chadwick, Pillay, Choudhary, Fenton, Beaumont, Locke, Delahunty, Hughes (Gareth .. and Dazza for that matter), Harawira, Quinn etc come to mind”

    I think you’ll find that some of these folk were on a pretty good wicket in their previous careers, particularly Choudhary as an university engineering associate professor.

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  26. dave (987 comments) says:

    recognising that not all MPs were using the perk.

    Particularly the ones that don’t yet qualify for it, but will get the associated compensation for its removal.

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  27. wreck1080 (3,858 comments) says:

    its a damned bad look.

    not only are they profiting now, they are getting another raise in the new year.

    I don’t care that it is to compensate for a lost benefit. Perhaps, they should have just lost the benefit considering the pain the rest of the country is experiencing (except teachers who seem to do quite well compared with other sectors).

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  28. jaba (2,120 comments) says:

    Red Sam .. I mentioned those people not due to their qualifications or previous jobs, I based it on what I have seen. Since Choudhary is so smart, why hasn’t he been put higher up the food chain. The Dept Leader was a Dental Nurse (nothing wrong with that by the way) so a Uni Eng Assoc Prof should at least be a shadow Minister of something.

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  29. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    “so a Uni Eng Assoc Prof should at least be a shadow Minister of something.”

    Perhaps he was an Indian electrical engineer. :)

    http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=919588

    :)

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  30. kaya (1,360 comments) says:

    SSB – very well put.

    I’m self employed, I don’t have the option of increasing my income. I can try, but ulitmately (as a tradesman) I am operating in a truly free market.

    For those here that think the pay rates are low and they “wouldn’t get out of be for it”. That’s really nice for you. The vast majority in this country wouldn’t agree with you. The RA is a pathetic get out for politicians to shrug their shoulders and inply it isn’t me. A joke.

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  31. nickb (3,686 comments) says:

    Exactly kaya.

    thse are 120 of the most out of touch people in NZ. To think the Greens, Labour, MP (and even National for that matter) profess to care about the poor is truly laughable.

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  32. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Kaya they passed a law making the RA responsible for their pay rises for the very reason that they got hammered every time they voted themselves a bloody pay rise.

    They are shit.

    Even our lot.

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  33. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    If Key wants us to take him seriously anymore I suggest he returns responsibility for MP’s pay rises back to parliament and immediately puts up a bill to reduce them by half.

    He won’t because he is a masturbator. :)

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  34. tristanb (1,126 comments) says:

    I said something like this when the Governor General position got an enormous pay rise:
    Surely MPs should be paid what the free market thinks is right. There seems to be no shortage of people wanting to be MPs, so we should start decreasing their wage every year until qualified people stop volunteering for the job.

    Or I was thinking that electorate MPs should state their desired salary on the ballot form. This way the voters get to decide if they think an MP is worth what they’re asking for. They can bulk fund political parties (based on number of seats achieved) an amount that the party desires (e.g. $150000/member) and the party can divide that to pay list MPs/extra for ministers, or use it for bonuses/perks as they desire.

    YOU HAVE 2 VOTES
    Party Vote
    Business Party $200,000/member
    Union Party $240,000/member
    Social Democrat $300,000/member
    Heritage Party $500,000/member
    etc.

    Electorate Vote
    John Brown (base salary $130,000)
    Flona Eggers (base salary $160,000)
    etc.

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  35. kaya (1,360 comments) says:

    Oink. Merry Xmas all.

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