PPTA v NZEI

December 7th, 2010 at 1:55 pm by David Farrar

We have our own version of the Iran/Iraq war occurring in New Zealand. The has launched a jihad against the for the terrible sin of settling their pay negotiations.

In the Dom Post this morning, secondary school teacher Jo Mells says it is time for the NZEI to stop free-loading and attacks their pay settlement.

But even more extraordinary is this video of the PPTA President, Kate Gainsford. At 6:40 she talks of betrayal by the NZEI Executive and at 7:05 calls on primary teachers to reject the settlement their Executive has recommended.

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16 Responses to “PPTA v NZEI”

  1. alex Masterley (1,523 comments) says:

    There seems to be a bit of pragmatism in the NZEI unlike the PTA.
    Now perhaps the BOT’s buggering around with the National Standards could take a leaf out of the NZEI’s book and work to implementing them.

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  2. berend (1,716 comments) says:

    Wow, that video is coming from a site with a lot of bandwidth.

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  3. Mr Elbow (2 comments) says:

    The link to Jo Mells’ letter is here http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/4429799/Letter-Primary-teachers-just-free-loaders

    Disturbing stuff!!

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  4. 3-coil (1,222 comments) says:

    An interesting letter to the editor (Dom, or poss Granny H) last week or so asked:

    “…heard that Radio NZ’s political editor Brent Edwards is married to PPTA president/strike leader Kate Gainsford. Is this true?”

    Anybody know?

    [DPF: Yes it is true.]

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  5. cha (4,081 comments) says:

    Yeah Farrar…. a spat between the chalkies is just so fucking much like a real war…..

    [DPF: You miss the subtle point I was making. Most people in the Iran/Iraq war regarded both parties as equally bad and were happy for them to bash each other. Same applies to NZEI and PPTA. You need to think more laterally and less literally]

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  6. insider (1,028 comments) says:

    PPTA and NZEI are always scrapping. Nothing new there. PPTA have always objected to pay parity with primary, and primary don’t like some of the extra benefits secondary get that undermine parity.

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  7. cha (4,081 comments) says:

    I suppose with a little lateral thinking you could say Halabja was a real giggle too.

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  8. anonymouse (722 comments) says:

    From the PPTA’s website this month…

    It is the belief of PPTA that this clause [entrenchment] does not meet the requirements of good faith nor does it meet the definition of pay parity.

    http://www.ppta.org.nz/index.php/nzspc-home/1557

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  9. YesWeDid (1,050 comments) says:

    Cha you missed that other ‘subtle’ point about ‘launching a jihad’.

    I wonder if DPF actually understands that primary and secondary school teachers have something called ‘pay parity’.

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  10. Whaleoil (767 comments) says:

    Did anyone notice she only has one eyebrow?

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  11. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Christ, I’m really confused PPTA versus NZEI in a holy war.

    Which ones are the Shites? :)

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  12. Nookin (3,466 comments) says:

    It has been some time since I was close to that scene but I seem to recall that PPTA loooked down on NZEI with considerable condescension. Nothing seems to have changed.

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  13. Jeff83 (745 comments) says:

    They have always had beef. My understanding is this goes back to the NZEI negotiations only ever focusing on pay parity with secondary school teachers, hence the ‘freeloaders’ attitude to it.

    Tbh much easier being a primary school teacher than a secondary, both in required qualifications and in stress. In saying that primary school teachers most probably can make more of a difference. Oh a funny world we live in.

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  14. MikeNZ (3,234 comments) says:

    JohnBoy
    delicious, nice one.

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  15. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    THUNDERDOME!!!!

    Two union reps enter… some gets kilt yadda yadda yadda its all good.

    Who gives a shite!

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  16. Camryn (543 comments) says:

    NZEI should be happy with parity. Primary teaching is clearly easier. It requires less depth of subject-matter expertise, discipline and interest are easier to maintain, and there’s no homework to mark except crayon drawings.

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