The Mondayisation bill
January 29th, 2011 at 9:41 am by David FarrarClaire Trevett in the Herald reports:
Labour will introduce a member’s bill to ensure holidays that fall on a weekend can be taken another day.
New Zealanders will miss out on two of 11 public holidays this year because Waitangi Day is a Sunday and Anzac Day falls on Easter Monday – already a statutory holiday.
Labour MP Grant Robertson said the holidays should be able to be taken on a Monday in such instances.
I actually support such a bill. Not to make a last minute change to 2011 which would be a silly panic. But to have certainity in the future that you always have 11 days of public holidays.
Incidentially Mondayisation would not solve the issue of ANZAC day and Easter Monday being the same day in 2011 but this is not scheduled to happen again until the 25th of April 2095. I hope Labour aren’t saying that this is an issue that needs a legislative fix.
But Waitangi Day and ANZAC Day falling on weekends does happen two out of seven years. ANZAC Day will next fall on a weekend in 2015 and Waitangi Day in 2016.
So Labour’s bill is worth supporting, but it is not urgent, and should take its chances in the ballot.
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January 29th, 2011 at 9:44 am
A good bill which should be supported.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 9:47 am
I think this year should be “fixed” as a one-off, could go through all stages ASAP and make tuesday after easter, this year, a public holiday as well. Mondayisation of ANZAC and Waitangi days seems fair enough to me and can take its time through Parliament.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Another thought is to make armistace day 11.11.11 (which is a friday) a one-off public holiday as ANZAC day is caught up with Easter this year.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Raising NZ’s productivity in a big way!
Why is it necessary for the Govt. to legislate anyones holiday?
Tradition from the old country.
Now BB and Grumpy etc. you are quick to condemn old country traditions bought hear by the colonists so to be consistent you would automatically cancel all paid holidays.
Wouldn’t you?
Or would you not want to give up your double incomes for those days and therefore join the Double Dippers from Dipton and the likes.
Vote:Interesting conundrum for you lot.
We will be interested to hear you justify yourselves.
January 29th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Question to DPF. What advantage will you as a self employed person gain from this? You can have a day off whenever you decide.
If your staff want a day off then they can arrange that as well.
Is there any reason other than socialism that an employer should be required to pay people to have a day off, especially as one of those days, Waitangi Day is founded on an erroneous piece of paper that is known to be incorrect.
If you are not sure what I mean try looking up “The Littlewood Treaty” The real version of the treaty.
[DPF: I gain nothing from this. I don’t advocate policy or laws based on what is good for me personally. Otherwise I would support a one year electoral term instead of a four year electoral term etc.
As a former employee, I valued having the occassional long weekend. Taking aside the Xmas/NY break, we only get Easter and five long weekends a year. It is frustrating when the vagaries of the calendar reduces that to 3 or 4
I’m not interested in a debate on whether NZ should abolish all public holidays. It will never happen and the Libz can debate that to their hearts contents.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 10:09 am
What a waste of time. Politicians should be concentrating on how to generate a healthy economy so we can stop borrowing $300 million a week. Stupid moonbats like big bruv support such nonsense. Get your priorities right gummint types, else we’ll be on big penniless holiday.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 10:13 am
8.5% of the year’s days are official holidays. i.e. Days that the poor bloody employer pays for but gets nothing for.
A fair number of those in the name of some strange Mediterranean mysticism bugger all subscribe to.
Bugger that!
The country needs more productivity, not less.ff
Less and less people take (or want) these days off so they should be cancelled, not increased.
One public holiday per year to honour those who have sacrificed their lives for NZ is all that’s needed.
Any other days off (if required) can be negotiated when people are negotiating employment contracts.
For christ sake give the working man the choice of which days he wants off and let him pay for them.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 10:17 am
You’re right MT – Labour doesn’t seem to take the needs of small business into account. It’s populist, it’s reactionary, and it will simply add to the cost of running a business whilst further diminishing productivity.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Why this wasn’t done years ago is beyond me.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Can you work us through that number?
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 10:27 am
This needs to be in conjunction with a change to the Holiday’s act so that the actual statutory holiday is not regarded as a holiday and any penal payments for working on the Statutory holiday falling on the Weekend are deferred to the Mondayised holiday. Otherwise, the reality is that for businesses open on the Weekend, they have to account for the reality of 2 statutory days instead of the one.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Listen to all the socialists bleating.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 10:40 am
I disagree with this proposal. If you mondayise Waitangi Day and Anzac Day they just become holidays and the meaning of the day becomes lost (like Labour Day). Both those days are too important for that.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 10:55 am
How cool, some more long weekends, must tell the cows, sure they will be impressed.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 11:16 am
I don’t really see the need to Mondayise the holidays. It just seems like pathetic whinging.
Suck it up. Sometimes the 6 Feb falls on a weekend (2/7 chance), sometimes 25 April does. If you don’t work weekends you get a public holiday -it’s not the end of the world. The ANZAC’s didn’t land on Gallipoli on 26th or 27th.
With more people working in the weekend it just makes things much more complicated. All the restaurants and cafes will be charging surcharges on all three days, there’ll be all sorts of “you don’t usually work Monday (but do work Saturday), so you don’t get paid leave”.
Leave it simple. If it falls on a weekend, and you work weekends – good for you – you’ve got a day off, or extra pay. If you don’t, don’t piss your pants and cry – in a year it may happen on a Wednesday and be your turn for an employer paid day off.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 11:29 am
malcolm (1,853) Says:
January 29th, 2011 at 10:19 am
8.5% of the year’s days are official holidays.
Can you work us through that number?
Yes.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Just what a second-world country falling even further behind Australia, and $300 million deeper in debt/ week needs: closing down our productivity up to 2 extra days per year.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Harden Up people, man alive 4 weeks annual leave plus the public holidays we do get. That is plenty is it not, of course we always want more, but we have a country to run, businesses to run….
I lived many years in Spain, there were so many dam holidays, it made it hard to conduct a decent business..
What a waste of energy going into this, agree totally with dadfjustice, get the country going, dont stall it more…
And why didnt those pathetic pinko’s do something about this when they were screwing the country up for 9 years!!!!!!
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 11:59 am
MT_Tinman, are you suggesting that employers pay for 365 days of work but only get approximately 230?
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Sadly for me I have never regarded ANZAC Day as any sort of holiday.
Vote:It is the only SACRED day from our short history.
It pays tribute to those who served to defend us and our way of life and the rembrance of those who died doing it.
It is not a bloody HOLIDAY.
So it falls on easter monday, so what.
Just leave it alone for those who actually care about such things.
January 29th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
I don’t see how Anzac Day can be Mondayised and still be recognised properly on the 25th April. Anzac Day events surely have to be on the actual Anzac Day. If it means we miss out on a day or two of holiday every five or six years then too bad. A bit if selflessness in recognition of those who have served and died for us isn’t much.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
I think Labour could do better things for workers. Holidays are good but surely it is about we had a 40 hour week enshrined in law.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
“Just what a second-world country falling even further behind Australia, and $300 million deeper in debt/ week needs: closing down our productivity up to 2 extra days per year”. Aussie Mondayises – this is a way of matching our holy grail big brother.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
I agree.
Vote:NZ appears hooked on legislation and the masses expect, almost want, everything to be ruled and regimented, as a result of decades of socialist indoctrination.
January 29th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
ANZAC Day and Waitangi Days were made Public Holidays so people could stop on the same day each year to commemorate the initial events – the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi, and the landing of troops at Gallipoli. When they fall on the weekend there is no need for Monday to Friday workers to be given the following Monday off.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Every Monday is a murriholiday where I work. Thursdays never are.
Why waste money giving lawyers more work amending legislation?
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Give me my freedom, butt out of my holidays government.
I can organise my own life thank you very much.
Vote:January 29th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
malcolm (1,856) Says:
January 29th, 2011 at 11:59 am
MT_Tinman, are you suggesting that employers pay for 365 days of work but only get approximately 230?
No.
Vote:January 30th, 2011 at 10:46 am
MT don’t know how you got your numbers, but Iheres my workings.
365 days in year. 2/7ths are weekends (for 40 hour Monday to Friday people).
so 260 Weekdays in a year.
20 days leave, 9 stats, 5 sick all payable by employer
so 34 days off paid (36 in a mondayised or year were both hols fall during week)
That means 260/34*100/1 or 13% (13.8% if mondayised).
So 13% of the years work days are holidays payable by the employer.
Vote:January 30th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
The next thing you know Goff will be telling us he has found a cure for Mondayitis
Vote:January 31st, 2011 at 8:26 am
Waaa waa fucking waa we want more holidays and we’re entitled to them.
when did this country turn into such a bunch of whimpy assed little bitches? You don’t even get the irony about whinging about not always having ANZAC Day off compared to the guys who actually gave you the day off 3 years out of every 4. They didn’t get a holiday and they didn’t snivle about it either.
Harden the fuck up New Zealand, you’re becoming a joke.
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