General Debate 21 February 2011

February 21st, 2011 at 8:00 am by David Farrar
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  1. starboard (2,489 comments) says:

    “About 300,000 welfare beneficiaries who are judged to be capable of work will face a day of reckoning”..

    ooohh whore..I bet your sphincter tweeked a tad when you read that…Bawhahhahahhaha!!!

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  2. tom hunter (4,532 comments) says:

    A few days ago I scoffed a bit at the idea of the GOP actually cutting the US federal budget in any meaningful way. Now it looks like that has happened, as even the $100 billion budget cut falls short.

    However, I did get a big laugh about one of the HotAir site writers, “Allahpundit”, going off about this Crumble: GOP effort to cut 100 billion fails thanks to massive Republican defections:

    I was all set to do a celebratory moral-victory post about the votes to defund Planned Parenthood and ObamaCare, but how can we party now? There’s pee in the punchbowl.

    Remember, even the full, allegedly “draconian” $100 billion figure is a pittance compared to this year’s projected $1.5 trillion deficit.

    I’m speechless.

    The House rejected a measure cutting an additional $22 billion from the Republican spending bill, as conservatives ran into a wall of opposition from the GOP establishment over the depth of reductions to federal funding.

    So far, so expected. But I what I really enjoyed was the response from another right-wing writer, Bill Quick of “Blogosphere” fame, to Allahpundit’s surprise. Bill does not hold back:

    This is hilarious. Allahpundit is just speechless with shock and amazement that the very same RINOs he loves so much in his Big Tent GOP just pissed in his punchbowl, then bent him over the party table, spread him wide, and fucked him till his eyeballs exploded.

    Well, AP. You like these guys so much? Then just lie there and enjoy what they’re giving you, good and hard.

    And vote for more of them, and more of the same, the next time. After all, Sarah Palin is dirty and icky or something. Yeah, vote for the RINOs who can win, that’s the ticket. Because they’ll cut spending or something.

    Muhahahahaha……….

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  3. Bobbie black (507 comments) says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-2i2SR_OsU

    No hate, just love.

    OK Maoris?

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  4. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    (here is more on the slo cookies purportedly here at kiwiblog..)

    “.. An SLO is a small programmable token or app if you like, installed secretly onto your system, there will probably be others as well, so going through and choosing the SLO cookies that are from sites you trust is recommended.

    SLO or tracking cookies can slow your computer performance/internet connection when they parse information to the programmer’s server.

    This also uses up broadband, but unless there are lots of them, this effect will not usually be that noticeable because they’re small.

    Most SLO allow editing on the fly so pretty much anything if the programmer is clever enough.

    It has the potential to store and track your activity online which is then accessible by whoever implemented the cookie -

    - or who they choose to on-sell that information to.

    In my opinion the KB SLO incorporates an Internet and key logger which is clearly hack.

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/

    Some flash LSO-cookie properties in short…

    - they are never expiring – staying on your computer for an unlimited time.

    - by default they offer a storage of 100 KB (compare: Usual cookies 4 KB).

    - browsers are not aware of those cookies, LSO’s usually cannot be removed by browsers.

    - via Flash they can access and store highly specific personal and technical information (system, user name, files,…).

    - ability to send the stored information to the appropriate server, without user’s permission.

    - flash applications do not need to be visible

    - there is no easy way to tell which flash-cookie sites are tracking you.

    - shared folders allow cross-browser tracking, LSO’s work in every flash-enabled application

    - the company doesn’t provide a user-friendly way to manage LSO’s, in fact it’s incredible cumbersome.

    - many domains and tracking companies make extensive use of flash-cookies.

    These cookies are not harmless….”

    mr farrar..a question for you…do you sell/provide information about yr visitors to kiwiblog…to anyone..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

    [DPF: No - no one at all. And I have no idea what an slo cookie is]

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  5. Bobbie black (507 comments) says:

    Hone:

    “Why is the bedroom so cold? Turned away on your side. Is my timing that flawed? Our respect run so dry? Yet there’s still this appeal, we have kept through our lives.”

    Peters:

    “Do you cry out in your sleep? All my feelings exposed. Get’s a taste in my mouth, as desparation takes hold. Why is it something so good, just can’t function no more? Love, love for the Maori party will tear us apart again. Love for the Maori Party, love will tear us apart again.”

    Hone: “Winston, in all his glory was the downfall of us Maori fellas. Love, love for Winston was the downfall of us all. Love, love for Winston, was the downfall of us all.”

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  6. Pete George (23,149 comments) says:

    500 million chances of life? Kepler science chief William Borucki at the American Association for the Advancement of Science has announced:

    There are at least 50 billion exoplanets in our galaxy. What's more, astronomers estimate that 500 million of these alien worlds are probably sitting inside the habitable zones of their parent stars.

    But that’s just our neighbourhood, there are estimates of possibly 200 billion galaxies in the observable universe. That’s a lot of potential for more than one managing to have some form of life.

    If there is a god that created all this it would be very strange to create life on one and not on others.

    One god for each? One god for all? Some for some and none for others?

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  7. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Authoritarian “It-should-be-banned” Joyce gets a bit of heat from the public, including Luddite acitvists.

    About 200 anti-expressway protesters greeted Transport Minister Steven Joyce at the opening of the new Waikanae railway station.

    The ceremony marked the completion of double tracks and the electrification from McKays Crossing to Waikanae, and the construction of a new commuter rail station and car park.

    Politicians spoke to a crowd of about 600 people, who were given the chance on Saturday to walk through the newly refurbished Ganz Mavag train carriages and a new Matangi unit imported from Korea, due to start serving the Kapiti Coast this year.

    Protester Jonathan Gradwell expressed gratitude for the train station but said the group strongly opposed the expressway. Carrying 60 balloons, representing homes that would be demolished for the four-lane road, the protesters also held placards emblazoned with slogans referring to Mr Joyce as “The Roadfather”.

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  8. Luc Hansen (4,573 comments) says:

    How to avoid being labelled anti-Semitic

    http://nomorecensorship.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/get_rid_of_anti_semitism_by_latuff2.jpg

    Easy, really…

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  9. pdm (842 comments) says:

    I commend to you my post on the Enigma that is Ma’a Nonu over at the Sports Geek. Go and have a look and tell me what you think. http://scarletmanuka.blogspot.com/

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  10. adc (581 comments) says:

    Who is actually running the Herald these days? I don’t think I’ve ever seen it so bad. Terrible typos everywhere, grammar issues. Did they fire all their editors or something and put the peons in charge?

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  11. Bobbie black (507 comments) says:

    Hone: “Fuck you, half pakeha man.”

    Winston: “How about the next election?”

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  12. Bobbie black (507 comments) says:

    Love, love will tear us apart again.

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  13. David Garrett (6,654 comments) says:

    I am interested in the collective opinion on a little contretemps I had in the supermarket over the weekend. While selecting my fruit and veges, I noted an Asian women near me vigourously sniffing pieces of fruit …and then putting them back for others to buy. I told her – perhaps more firmly than I needed to – that while this may be acceptable in her home country, people here did not want to buy fruit she and others had sniffed. It did not go down well, with the daughter – sadly rather predictably- saying I was a racist.

    Well, at the risk of sounding like Don Brash, my wife is from Tonga, where it is perfectly acceptable for both sexes to loudly clear their throats and spit the results on the pavement. My wife pretty quickly worked out that spitting in public was not OK here.

    Is it racist to point out that some practice which may be totally acceptable back home is very much not OK here? Is it unreasonable to expect immigrants to learn our cultural mores and abide by them – at least in public?

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  14. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    http://whoar.co.nz/2011/our-warmer-wetter-wilder-world/

    …My friend the geophysicist emailed the other day to tell me his house in Connecticut was still snowed in.

    “The main hypotheses for why we have so much snow,” he explained, “involve heat coming out of the now-open Arctic ocean in early winter.

    Once the ice cap freezes over temporarily – the wild weather calms down.”

    In other words, it’s caused by global warming.

    Not global warming next year.

    Not global warming 50 years from now.

    Global warming today.

    And according to a new study published in Nature – the entire continent of North America is affected:

    “Human influence on the climate system has the effect of intensifying precipitation extremes,” said Francis Zwiers, a climate researcher at Environment Canada in Toronto and lead researcher on the first study….

    …The study found that observed increase in deluges “cannot be explained by natural internal fluctuations of the climate system alone,” said Zwiers.

    In other words, only the addition of greenhouse gases to the atmosphere explains why the United States and Canada have experienced a dramatic increase in heavy downpours.

    ….The explanation is simple physics: Warmer air holds more water vapor.

    That means when rainfall gets triggered – the air contributing to the storm is holding more water than it did in the cooler pre-industrial world.

    And it’s not just North America.

    Another new study looked at the epic floods in England and Wales in 2000 – and concluded that they likely resulted from a warmer world:

    In nine out of ten cases our model results indicate that twentieth-century anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions increased the risk of floods occurring in England and Wales in autumn 2000 by more than 20% -

    - and in two out of three cases by more than 90%.

    And the even scarier part?

    These studies only go through the year 2000 – so they miss the entire last decade -

    - which was the warmest on record…” (cont..)

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  15. Viking2 (11,216 comments) says:

    No, and go and complain to the owner of the market about his unhygienic fruit. If he thinks is a laugh then put it the local rag. That will upset his sales. Dirty bastards. and we let them in here.

    Apart from that its not racist unless you made it so.

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  16. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Is it racist to point out that some practice which may be totally acceptable back home is very much not OK here?
    Is it unreasonable to expect immigrants to learn our cultural mores and abide by them – at least in public?

    The answer to both questions is a resounding No
    I’m part Italian, a country where is traditional to pinch shapely female bottoms, so imagine my disappointment. :D

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  17. Pete George (23,149 comments) says:

    I noted an Asian women near me vigourously sniffing pieces of fruit

    I don’t see a problem with sniffing fruit if they handle the fruit carefully. Kiwis have a much worse habit – they squeeze fruit to see if it is “ripe”. A squeeze does a lot more damage than a sniff.

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  18. Puzzled in Ekatahuna (339 comments) says:

    Pete George – “… there are estimates of possibly 200 billion galaxies in the observable universe.”

    So if life is exclusive to Earth, what is the inaccessible extended infrastructure for?

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  19. Ryan Sproull (7,056 comments) says:

    I am interested in the collective opinion on a little contretemps I had in the supermarket over the weekend. While selecting my fruit and veges, I noted an Asian women near me vigourously sniffing pieces of fruit …and then putting them back for others to buy. I told her – perhaps more firmly than I needed to – that while this may be acceptable in her home country, people here did not want to buy fruit she and others had sniffed. It did not go down well, with the daughter – sadly rather predictably- saying I was a racist.

    She wasn’t blowing her nose on it, was she? Just sniffing? It’s about the only way to tell if a mango is ripe, for a start. People pick up fruit while selecting their purchase. Haven’t they always? Just wash fruit you buy, as you really should anyway.

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  20. Nookin (3,142 comments) says:

    PDM
    You got it. I wouldn’t blame Dickinson for these however. They were blatant. Unfortunately the powers that be have decreed Nonu to be among the top echelon of insider centres – supported vociferously by opposition teams who know what you, I and most others outside Wellington know namely he is a loose cannon with a one dimensional game.

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  21. kowtow (7,858 comments) says:

    Al Jazeera news reports that our “freetrade” partners China are cracking down heavily on potential internet etc activists.
    They’re obviouslly shit scared of contagion from the ME.

    If Bahrain goes then Iran extends it’s influence in the Gulf big time.

    Libya on the brink now too. Maybe Scotland could give Gadaffi asylum seeing how they and Brown thought he was such a nice chap. Blair included.

    I’m amazed that oil hasn’t gone through the roof yet. A couple of years ago the speculators used any excuse to push it up.

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  22. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    http://whoar.co.nz/2011/fiore-cartoon-how-the-pentagon-avoids-budget-cuts/

    (another excellent offering from mr fiore….

    ..check out his archives…)

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  23. tom hunter (4,532 comments) says:

    10 Charts That Embody Everything That’s Wrong With The U.S. Economy

    Increasingly I’m reminded of this song (the Concrete Blonde version especially):

    Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
    Everybody knows that the captain lied
    Everybody got this broken feeling
    Like their father or their dog just died

    Everybody talking to their pockets
    Everybody wants a box of chocolates
    And a long stem rose
    Everybody knows

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  24. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    mr garrett..

    how do you think those who hold cows sacred feel…

    ..watching you picking pieces of their sacred animal out of yr teeth…?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  25. pdm (842 comments) says:

    Nookin – thanks for the support. Would have loved you to put that comment on the post at The Sports Geek.

    BTW I wasn’t blaming Dickinson and I see where he is saying refs have been told to toughen up.

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  26. tom hunter (4,532 comments) says:

    Ach – did not beat the clock. Here’s Concrete Blonde with Everybody Knows

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  27. Bobbie black (507 comments) says:

    What was the racist experience that sticks in your mind in New Zealand?

    Come on whities!!?

    Pakeha!!?

    Tell the fucking truth!!!

    I can’t ever recall seeing a Pakeha being racist to a Maori!!

    Hide your white heads in the sand like ostriches.

    RACISM!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  28. grumpyoldhori (2,412 comments) says:

    You cannot get to the Supermarket much Garrett, now let’s see, you have a problem with a Asian woman sniffing the fruit but you have no problem with all other races squeezing the fruit ? putting their grubby mits all over it then leaving it ?
    Oh, why mention the woman was Asian at all, I have even seen women of your race doing the same to some fruit ?

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  29. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    The brutal Qaddafi unleashes his security forces. I wish the noose would await him

    Libyan forces fired machine-guns at mourners marching in a funeral for anti-government protesters in the eastern city of Benghazi Sunday, a day after commandos and foreign mercenaries loyal to longtime leader Moammar al-Qaddafi pummeled demonstrators with assault rifles and other heavy weaponry.

    A doctor at one Benghazi hospital said 15 people died in Sunday’s clashes. Earlier he said his morgue had received at least 200 dead from six days of unrest. The doctor said his hospital, one of two in Libya’s second-largest city, is out of supplies and cannot treat more than 70 wounded in similar attacks on mourners Saturday and other clashes.

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  30. Puzzled in Ekatahuna (339 comments) says:

    Rather than sniffed fruit itself, be more disturbed by young children [Maori included, despite tikanga frowning on posterioral contact with food preparation surfaces] riding in supermarket trolley compartments where you may later drop your sniffed fruit

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  31. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    Madness, pure madness.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/4682130/Texas-poised-to-pass-bill-allowing-guns-on-campus

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  32. Viking2 (11,216 comments) says:

    yep, GOH and I’ve seen your lot piss into apple bins full of apples. There’s a fine standard for you.

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  33. Pete George (23,149 comments) says:

    Madness, pure madness.

    People have been killed when planes have been hijacked, surely if all the passengers were armed they would be able to kill any would be hijackers. Bottles of water are potentialy dangerous so they would still need to screen and scan passengers, but guns will solve everything.

    “Gun-related homicide rates in the United States are two to four times higher than they are in countries that are economically and politically similar to it.”

    Too bad.

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  34. BeaB (2,074 comments) says:

    What a prat! Imagine talking so rudely to anyone!
    I always sniff fruit – it’s the best way to tell if it’s ripe and far better than squeezing (with dirty Asian or Pakeha hands). Just wash your fruit when you get it home, as you should anyway.
    Where do these self-appointed sticky beaks come from?

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  35. david (2,547 comments) says:

    Sniffing is not a problem. Compare ir with the fruit and vege stalls in Seoul when I lived there in the 1990′s. The women manning the stalls did not have spray bottles but instead would fill their mouths with water and spray the produce to keep it looking fresh. Took a bit ofr getting used to I can tell you especially with the Kimchee smell on their breath so strong. To make it more intruiging, one of the “better” markets was in a place we expates called “rat alley” – close to Vege Hill and Hooker Hill it was if I recall

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  36. adze (1,937 comments) says:

    Depends if her nose/face came into contact with the fruit I guess, although from a hygiene perspective noses aren’t much worse than fingers.

    After a couple of bad experiences with cracked eggs, now I always check each egg in a carton before putting it in my trolley. We don’t eat the shells though so it’s not entirely the same.

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  37. RightNow (6,780 comments) says:

    I see the fool ‘Todd’ has been posting on Red Alert about a threat from ‘flash cookies’ at kiwiblog.
    Simply put, a cookie collects information gleaned from your web-browsing. You can clear http cookies from the tools/options menu on your browser. Cookies won’t infect your computer with viruses, but they can pass on information gleaned from your web browsing.
    Flash cookies are a little different and aren’t cleared from your browser the same way http cookies are. Some websites have exploited this feature to create a ‘backup’ identifier for http cookies, so when you visit a site that you cleared the http cookie for, the site can look for a flash cookie with your http cookie ID and restore that http cookie to your browser (from a copy the website stored).
    Todd alleged there was a keylogger operating within this vulnerability (although he said it was ‘offline’ when he last checked it). Keyloggers log keystrokes, so can sniff passwords and credit card details.
    The reality is that cookies (even flash cookies and Evercookies – google for your own edification) don’t contain executable code, so if Todd has detected a keylogger it will be because his PC has been compromised elsewhere. Poor Todd.

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  38. Puzzled in Ekatahuna (339 comments) says:

    Flash cookies are more likely to be on Red Alert where Todd is smearing kiwiblog.

    But to Phil’s comment here earlier –
    mr farrar..a question for you…do you sell/provide information about yr visitors to kiwiblog…to anyone..?
    and David’s answer
    [DPF: No - no one at all. And I have no idea what an slo cookie is]

    What was the problem Phil?
    Concerned someone may have noticed that you comment here?

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  39. RightNow (6,780 comments) says:

    Flash cookies are usually on any site that uses Flash, or other Adobe products. They store info like your volume setting for video playback and such like.

    I’m not sure why Todd keeps spelling LSO (local shared object) as SLO, perhaps he’s dyslexic.

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  40. lastmanstanding (1,228 comments) says:

    David Garrett Agree with you 100% Remember the old saying. When in Rome do as Rome does.

    Well like most Kiwis I have travelled and worked around the world and never ever assumed to demand my host country citizens change their behaviour so as not to offend me.

    I again like most kiwis have accepted my host countries ways and fitted in with them.

    Over the past 3 decades some ethic groups coming to live in NZ not only wont accept out way of life but demand we change to accommodate them

    And pillocks like Jois de Bres at the HRC and his mad mates demand we change or be branded racists.

    It time mors people stood up like David did and said NO. You come to our country. If you dont fit in with our custome then FOXTROT OSCAR We dont want or need you here.

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  41. AlphaKiwi (687 comments) says:

    Very interesting documentary on trying to get Muslims in the UK to get involved in the democratic process.

    It’s called “I’m a Muslim and the BNP got my vote.”
    http://www.mpacuk.org/story/190211/social-commentary-its-best-nationalist.html

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  42. AlphaKiwi (687 comments) says:

    @ RightNow

    See WhaleOil reposted the affair about poor Mr. Todd. Lol!

    http://tinyurl.com/4lswb5v

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  43. Ryan Sproull (7,056 comments) says:

    Smelling fruit to see if it’s ripe is common practice in New Zealand.

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  44. David Garrett (6,654 comments) says:

    This has been most interesting…I will certainly be washing ALL fruit in future, now I see that ‘sniffing’ is a not uncommon practice!

    But fyi “grumpyoldhori” (aka leftie hiding behind a pseudonyn) I do the grocery shopping, along with my boy Charlie, every weekend…first time I have encountered a fruit sniffer…

    Guess the good folks of Helensville have other methods of testing…

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  45. dime (9,607 comments) says:

    todds big revenge plot against kiwiblog lmao troll left wing sites and tell them they will get a virus if they come here.

    just sad.

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  46. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “..Guess the good folks of Helensville have other methods of testing….”

    there’s that (conscious/unconscious?) colour-test you use…

    ..how else do you keep the town so white..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  47. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    breakfast television was quantifiably better this morning..

    it seemed to take itself more seriously..

    ..which it should..

    ..these are serious times..

    ..and we are in an election year..

    ..and they have an important role to play…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  48. Ryan Sproull (7,056 comments) says:

    This has been most interesting…I will certainly be washing ALL fruit in future, now I see that ‘sniffing’ is a not uncommon practice!

    There’s also a common practice of squeezing slightly to see if something is ripe (like a mango or avocado).

    Best practice is to wash all fruit and vegetables anyway, to get rid of any remaining pesticides and herbicides.

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  49. grumpyoldhori (2,412 comments) says:

    What a fucking waste, a young lad and a young woman, fucking madness we worry a lot about firearms yet allow kids with fuck all training to handle death machines.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10707711

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  50. RightNow (6,780 comments) says:

    David Garrett, you should have been washing all fruit and veges anyway before eating them, it’s just common sense.

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  51. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    and garrett..interesting you sneer at a leftie ‘hiding behind a pseudonyn(sic)’…

    care to point out which of the abusing right wing trolls here has the balls to sign their own name to their poison…?

    ..the oh-so-brave/bumptious..!..

    the blowhards…

    skulking/sneering from behind a screen..

    and the funny thing is…they have an audience of one…

    cos’ nobody knows who they are….

    their bon mots fall on fallow ground…

    this is the disempowerment that comes from their lack of testicular-fortitude…

    ..heh..!

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  52. starboard (2,489 comments) says:

    …at the slight chance of being labelled a racist…oh WTF…I saw a maori woman in a PaknSave take 2 bites bite out of an apple then place it back in the pile…moved on to the pears and did the same…I asked her WTF did she think she was doing and she flew into a rage…I told her what she was.. then complained to the Manager , within 10 minutes the sloth was in the backseat of a police car. True story.

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  53. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    gee star-bored…you told us all you are a millionaire…

    ..(with your turbo-powered high class lawyers at yr beck and call…eh..?..)

    you must be the only millionaire who shops with the poor people…

    ..eh..?

    or are you just that blowhard-bullshitter i just mentioned…?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  54. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    Starboard

    Why the hell do you shop at paknsave?

    I hate that place, full of feral bastards slopping around in their slippers and hoodies.

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  55. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    crappy fruit & veg at pak ‘n save…eh starbored..?

    crappy..but cheaper..lots of things..eh..?

    why does such a high-flyer as yr good-self feel you have to endure such a low-level of quality in yr food..?

    there..star-bored…

    ..with yr magnificent wealth..

    ..you’d be insisting on hand-reared organic..?

    ..wouldn’t you..?

    and it can’t be cost..that has you buying crappy food..eh..?

    ..’cos those turbo-charged lawyers don’t come cheap..

    ..do they darling..?

    ..do tell…!

    ..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  56. Sofia (826 comments) says:

    February 20th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
    how do you know..rightnow..?
    phil(whoar.co.nz)

    So, with several items posted on whoar.co.nz by 5.30 am
    we’d have a library open 9.20 Sunday evenings and again before 5.30 am Monday mornings?
    Where Philu has access to a television –

    February 21st, 2011 at 7:18 am
    is anyone watching the bowel-cancer peddler on breakfast telly…?
    so oily i am needing to constantly wipe the screen..
    phil(whoar.co.nz)

    at 11.10
    breakfast television was quantifiably better this morning..

    So indulge this small wastage of space here, to perhaps put an end to daily references to the urban myth that Phil only uses a library computer.
    He doesn’t.

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  57. RightNow (6,780 comments) says:

    Chris Carter sides with the Greens: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10707778
    “Te Atatu MP Chris Carter, who was expelled from the Labour Party last year, has struck a deal with the Greens that will see them cast his proxy vote when he is not at Parliament.”

    Wonder if that means he’ll stand in Te Atatu for the Greens? Fun times eh?

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  58. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    (pssstt..!..is that sofia another cunning marketing-plan from that philu..?..)

    thank you darling..!

    for emphasising how early i am on the job each morning..

    that’s all to provide the best service..as early as i can…eh..?

    ..y’know..!..’birds/worms’..and all that…(excuse the non-vegan metaphor..)

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  59. dime (9,607 comments) says:

    bruv – my local pak n save isnt bad. i dont see any trash there. then again, i wouldnt exactly go to pak n save henderson.

    i usually go to countdown.. but i bite the bullet every 6 weeks or so and do a big shop at pak n save. i save a shitload of $$

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  60. Lucia Maria (2,238 comments) says:

    David Garrett,

    I concur with the others on this thread who are telling you to wash your fruit when you take it home.

    Harassing Asian women in supermarkets is hardly going to be seen as a courageous defence of our culture. And yes, I have been known to sniff the occasional fruit (rockmelons actually), and I’m European.

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  61. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    Dime

    Do you really save that much?

    In the past I have tired paknsave and found that they do not offer a decent range of choice, the brands are all low rent and I did not think that I saved that much.

    Plus I felt like I needed a shower after.

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  62. dime (9,607 comments) says:

    bruv – yea. im not exactly the type that checks prices. but one day i decided to have a look. i eat a lot of tuna. $2 at pak n save, $3 at countdown. there were a bunch of examples. it starts to add up.

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  63. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    she wasn’t sniffing mangoes was she..?..garrett..?

    that’s the only to tell if they are ready to eat…

    ..and there is sniffing…

    ..and there is ramming it up yr nostril like pushing back a lump of falling out cocaine..eh..?

    i suspect it wasn’t the latter…

    (that racist-case does appear to be building…eh..?..)

    btw….do you have your body trained that you never cough/sneeze in public..?

    ..you don’t finger avocadoes…?

    ..no other anti-social shopping habits…?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  64. RightNow (6,780 comments) says:

    I have to confess that my wife usually does the shopping (and actually prefers not to have me along with her due to the increased spend when I do go) and she does the main weekly shopping at Pak’n’save. It seems that there really is a significant price difference, even if the range isn’t so extensive. She then fills her car up at the Pak’n’save petrol pump afterwards using the discount voucher from the shopping.
    We’ll generally do a top up during the week at New World just because it’s a lot closer.

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  65. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    gee..!..that star-bored has gone all quiet….eh..?

    (he’s usually so bouncy-backie/stroppy..eh..?..)

    he must be conferring with his turbo-lawyers…

    ..or shopping at pak ‘n save…

    ..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  66. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    yes..i bumped into her last week…rightnow..

    at the almost-expired hummus cabinet…

    ..eh..?

    star-bored is often seen there too…

    (he’s always the best-dressed one…eh..?

    obviously just slumming…)

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  67. Nookin (3,142 comments) says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4683465/MP-Dyson-to-pay-back-16-000-trip

    Pangs of conscience or the realisation that a reporter was asking questions?

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  68. adze (1,937 comments) says:

    Philu
    I’ve no idea if Garrett is racist, but I also don’t know if he supports a politician who campaigned on restricting Asian people from coming here in the first place, as you’ve done…

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  69. alex Masterley (1,494 comments) says:

    I’ve never seen the vege sniffing thing at any of Countdown (Mt Eden Greenlane or St Lukes) or New World (Viccy Park or Mt Roskil).
    Having said that our fruit and veges come from fruit and vege shops as opposed to supermarkets as there are significant price distinctions.

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  70. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    yes alex..but for the poor…

    ..you can often get big bags of apples/bananas just on the turn…

    ..real cheap..

    ..as my dogs love them too..we go thru a lot…

    ..so…

    there is also the local/foreign-owned question..

    so if you don’t mind those profits all flowing off-shore..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  71. RightNow (6,780 comments) says:

    Nookin – isn’t it amazing what behavioural changes occur when there’s no rocks to hide under?

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  72. Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left (772 comments) says:

    Seriously David, all the crap and poisons that go on our fruit and you’re worried about some sniffing.
    Would you have minded if she was 5 foot 10, 110 pounds, young and Swedish?

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  73. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    ah..! another lie from one of those cowards snivelling from behind a false name..

    look..!..it’s adze..

    what i said about peters…was that his winebox-efforts … and getting free healthcare for nippers..

    ..must be taken into any honest evaluation of the man…and his political-life..

    ..and i stand by that..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  74. adze (1,937 comments) says:

    Phil, you were in denial about his role in the Owen Glen affair. That counts as support in my book, so call it an opinion if you like but it’s no lie. The fact is you overlooked the thing that you despise the most.

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  75. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    “..as my dogs love them too..we go thru a lot…”

    Yeah, well if you starve them long enough they will eat just about anything.

    Seriously Phool, I know you are a parasite and a bludger and there may be nothing we can do about that but must you inflict your fucked up opinions on your animals as well?

    At the VERY least they need vitamins to make up for the lack of meat in their diet.

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  76. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    i don’t actually know enough about the details of the owen glenn affair..to have an opinion..

    ..and in the big picture..don’t really give a flying..

    stop trying to make something out of nothing..

    ..and tell us…why do you have the need to hide/snivel behind a false name..?

    do you have a high-flying job..?

    ..like the failed used car salesman/sociopathic liar big bruv..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  77. voice of reason (491 comments) says:

    Said Fruit or veges have already been handled plenty of times – a sniff here and there won’t matter, given the rubbish that is put out as saleable I sometimes think it is deliberate policy to allow customers to QC and re-inspect whats on offer.

    On a slightly different note – what the heck are Pak’N’Save Albany doing selling Italian Kiwi-Fruit!
    (PS – was definately hairier than NZ fruit ;-0 )

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  78. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    we’ve already had this dicussion..oh sociopathic-one..

    you really are the groundhog day guy…eh..?

    (for anyone else:..)

    http://whoar.co.nz/?s=vegan+dogs

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  79. adze (1,937 comments) says:

    “stop trying to make something out of nothing..”

    Like making serious character judgements about someone for objecting to another person sniffing fruit…?

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  80. Inventory2 (10,161 comments) says:

    Grab the beers and the popcorn folks; Chris Carter has just upped the ante on Phil Goff. This is going to be great entertainment!

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-green-mp-chris-carter.html

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  81. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    Phool

    What discussion?

    You have proved yourself to be nothing other than a pathological liar.

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  82. alex Masterley (1,494 comments) says:

    Should be fun to watch.

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  83. coventry (316 comments) says:

    So now that Carter (Chris, gift that keeps on giving) has given his vote to the Greens, what’s the chance that he will run for Te Atatu on a Green ticket ?

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  84. dime (9,607 comments) says:

    coventry – hope he does. he will soon find out that people in his electorate were voting for labour. not chris carter. but hey, if 10% of his votes did go with him to the greens, national may take the seat. nice.

    good to see the greens have no morals and will welcome chris aboard

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  85. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Would you have minded if she was 5 foot 10, 110 pounds, young and Swedish?

    Where do I find shoppers like that? :-)

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  86. starboard (2,489 comments) says:

    nothin wrong with shopping at P and S whore…I generally do my shopping early in the morning when the ferals like your good self are still tucked up in bed in a drug induced haze from the night before.
    And phool..its lawyer , not lawyers…I just have the one. Now fuck off.

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  87. Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left (772 comments) says:

    “Where do I find shoppers like that? ”

    To sniff your fruit? Maybe ask Dime :D

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  88. voice of reason (491 comments) says:

    “Manolo (3,379) Says:
    February 21st, 2011 at 1:10 pm
    Would you have minded if she was 5 foot 10, 110 pounds, young and Swedish?
    Where do I find shoppers like that? ”

    New World by Victoria Park – evenings

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  89. pentwig (240 comments) says:

    phool/luphi

    FFS twerp your 8:17 piece of drivel is a cut and paste from Todds muckraking on frogblog.

    Have you no shame, no conscience?

    Todd has been banned on KB and for you to cut and paste his excretion on here is an abuse of the highest magnitude on DPF.

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  90. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    gee..star-bored….a millionaure..eh..?

    and you do yr own shopping…

    early in the morning..

    ..at pak ‘n save…(crappy fruit and all..)

    ..and yr cabal of lawyers have slimmed down to one..?

    ..he is i presume…turbo-charged tho’..?

    do you know what we all think..?..there..star-bored..?

    we think that you are 99% sure to be a bullshitting/big-noting-blowhard…

    .and are probably one of those strange acne-riddled/knee-twitching actites-on-campus…

    ..eh..?

    ..acting out..

    ..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  91. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “..early in the morning when the ferals like your good self are still tucked up in bed in a drug induced haze from the night before…”

    no..didn’t you see earlier on…?..there..star-bored..?

    sofia noted that there were quite a few stories/links up on whoar by 5.30 am..?

    hardly sleeping in…eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  92. starboard (2,489 comments) says:

    bugger..you got me phool. Your’re not as dumb as I thought. My bad. Oh woe is me. Back to the storeroom.

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  93. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    shall we calll you the parsimonious-millionaire there..star-bored..?

    i’m sure campbell/the moustache-guy wd be fascinatd with yr story…

    ‘..the millionaire who buys/eats the crappy fruit and vegetables at pak ‘n save…

    …is he just mean..or is he really mean..?

    you be the judge…!

    tonight at seven..”

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  94. DJP6-25 (1,295 comments) says:

    david 10:13 am. I’ve been in Korea since 2003. I haven’t seen any of the street vendors do that. None of the fruit and veges look like they’ve been moistened in any way.

    cheers

    David Prosser

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  95. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    “bugger..you got me phool. Your’re not as dumb as I thought.”

    Yes he is.

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  96. starboard (2,489 comments) says:

    ..BB I refer you back to the first post of this morn on GD. The phool will be sweating profusely… nervous tick running overtime..the mere thought of having to lift his idol bones out of bed in the morning to go and to a days graft…Muhahahahaha!!

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  97. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    and ya speak of acne-riddled/knee-twitching actites on campus..

    and right on cue…up pops pentwig/wept gin..eh..?

    i’ve seen him..at a bloggers’ drinks…

    ..of course the acne/knee-twitching was all going on..

    but sweaty/inarticulate are my main memories of him…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  98. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    nah..!..good try there..star-bored..

    but i think we are still all focussed on what a weird millionaire you are….eh..?

    wot with the pak ‘n save”..and all…eh..?

    star-bored..?

    (you don’t share student ‘digs’ with wept gin..?..do you..?

    ..share the accutane…as it were….?)

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  99. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    emboldened by anonymity….

    ..eh star-bored..?

    you and all the other anonymous/cowardly snivellers..

    ..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  100. starboard (2,489 comments) says:

    Muhahahahhahahahahahahahahaha!!!! sweating…nervous twitch..muhahahaha!!

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  101. paws (197 comments) says:

    starboard (1,644) Says:

    February 21st, 2011 at 1:12 pm
    nothin wrong with shopping at P and S whore…I generally do my shopping early in the morning when the ferals like your good self are still tucked up in bed in a drug induced haze from the night before.
    And phool..its lawyer , not lawyers…I just have the one. Now fuck off.
    You have a lawyer have a million bucks DARN party at your place

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  102. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Of course the parasitic little philu has no shame, no conscience, no self esteem, that of course is self
    evident to anyone who reads this blog. He is just a smart alec twerp. Right philu ?

    i see today the little twerp is challenging others, ‘ why do you need to hide’ etc etc.

    Well, Answer this you little twerp. What do you say to someone like my neice who is a solo mum with two kids
    who has a full time job, contributes to our society, helps pay your dole, you bludger. While you sit at home
    watching TV, posting drivel on this blog all day every day, smoking dope, and scoffing at others.

    What have you got to say to her, you nonce ?

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  103. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    philu
    what have you contributed to our society, ever.

    From what i can see you are a drug addict ex convict who seems to have been a taker all your sick
    life. On the dole for years, quite pruod of that. Have you ever had a career, let alone a job you sick little fuck.
    Procreated the odd clone of yourself who will doubtless follow your example and also be a bludging loser
    and drain on society.

    What use are you ? What use have you ever been ?

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  104. starboard (2,489 comments) says:

    From Stuff…

    A growing, more affluent population competing for ever scarcer resources could make for an “unrecognisable” world by 2050, warned researchers at a major US science conference.

    The United Nations has predicted the global population will reach seven billion this year, and climb to nine billion by 2050, “with almost all of the growth occurring in poor countries, particularly Africa and South Asia,” said John Bongaarts of the non-profit Population Council.

    To feed all those mouths, “we will need to produce as much food in the next 40 years as we have in the last 8,000,” said Jason Clay of the World Wildlife Fund at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS).

    “By 2050 we will not have a planet left that is recognisable” if current trends continue, Clay said.

    The swelling population will exacerbate problems, such as resource depletion, said John Casterline, director of the Initiative in Population Research at Ohio State University.

    But incomes are also expected to rise over the next 40 years – tripling globally and quintupling in developing nations – and add more strain to global food supplies.

    People tend to move up the food chain as their incomes rise, consuming more meat than they might have when they made less money, the experts said.

    It takes around seven pounds (3.4 kilograms) of grain to produce a pound of meat, and around three to four pounds of grain to produce a pound of cheese or eggs, experts told AFP.

    “More people, more money, more consumption, but the same planet,” Clay told AFP, urging scientists and governments to start making changes now to how food is produced.

    “Population experts, meanwhile, called for more funding for family planning programmes to help control the growth in the number of humans, especially in developing nations.

    “For 20 years, there’s been very little investment in family planning, but there’s a return of interest now, partly because of the environmental factors like global warming and food prices,” said Bongaarts.

    “We want to minimise population growth, and the only viable way to do that is through more effective family planning,” said Casterline

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  105. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    ” Madness, pure madness.”

    Another knee jerk gun grabbing liberal posing as a “right winger”.

    Best Crime & Dictator Deterrent- Armed Law Abiding Citizens.

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  106. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Another good article by Karl du Fresne.

    Has Key pushed his luck too far?
    I’m surprised the media didn’t make more of the latest opinion polls that show support for John Key as preferred prime minister has suddenly dropped sharply.

    But what I found far more interesting is that Key’s personal rating had slumped by eight points in the TVNZ poll, bringing him down to a 48 percent approval rating, and by five points in the 3News sampling (to 49 percent).

    These results didn’t surprise me. The strong impression I’ve got over the past month or so is that the tide has suddenly turned for the prime minister.

    Letters to the editor, radio talkback chatter and general conversation leads me to suspect that the magic aura that seems to have captivated the electorate since 2008 is starting to wear off.

    Assuming I’m correct, what could the reasons be? One might be that Key has pushed his luck a bit too far. His mincing sashay down the catwalk in a Rugby World Cup volunteer’s uniform, as he now admits, was a bad look.

    You can see how he misjudged the situation. He was trying to be playful and thought he could get away with it. And why not? After all, the public and the media have given him a dream run. But Key clearly didn’t realise how damaging it would look being endlessly replayed on the TV news. The catwalk strut has turned into Key’s equivalent of the Don Brash gangplank moment.

    http://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2011/02/has-key-pushed-his-luck-too-far.html

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  107. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    David Carter makes the correct call and rebuffs the Luddite Kedgley.

    Agriculture Minister David Carter has ruled out government intervention to keep milk prices down.
    He said the Government would not provide subsidies to New Zealand consumers, and high international prices would benefit the economy.

    “New Zealand is a country that exports at least 95 per cent of everything that it produces,” he said.

    Green Party food spokeswoman Sue Kedgley today called on the Government to set up a full Commerce Commission inquiry into dairy pricing.

    “The Green Party believes such an inquiry is long overdue,” Ms Kedgley said. “There isn’t any real scrutiny of retail prices and how they are set in New Zealand.

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  108. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    “Another knee jerk gun grabbing liberal posing as a “right winger”.

    Yeah, because having a whole lot of loaded guns around at any one time is a really good idea.

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  109. Puzzled in Ekatahuna (339 comments) says:

    1. philu (10,445) Says: 
February 21st, 2011 at 2:28 pm
    
and ya speak of acne-riddled/knee-twitching actites on campus..
and right on cue…up pops pentwig/wept gin..eh..?
i’ve seen him..at a bloggers’ drinks…
..of course the acne/knee-twitching was all going on..
but sweaty/inarticulate are my main memories of him…
phil(whoar.co.nz)

    2. philu (10,445) Says: 
February 21st, 2011 at 2:32 pm
    
nah..!..good try there..star-bored..
but i think we are still all focussed on what a weird millionaire you are….eh..?
wot with the pak ‘n save”..and all…eh..?
star-bored..?
(you don’t share student ‘digs’ with wept gin..?..do you..?
..share the accutane…as it were….?)
phil(whoar.co.nz)

    3. philu (10,445) Says: 
February 21st, 2011 at 2:36 pm
    
emboldened by anonymity….
..eh star-bored..?
you and all the other anonymous/cowardly snivellers..
..eh..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)

    Phil, why don’t you stop for a moment and look at the fucking drivel you are writing.
    Shit, three in a row, without a breath
    This is crazy in anyone’s book – grow up a little bit, or go away.

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  110. Courage Wolf (559 comments) says:

    Yes David Garrett it was racist of you.

    As far as I’m aware fruit sniffing isn’t common practice in Asia either, so you’ve automatically presumed something about someone’s culture without even knowing if it’s a part of their culture or not, based on the fact that they are Asian.

    Just because your wife is Togan does not mean you are not racist – I’ve seen many white and black Americans act racistly towards Asians – so what? How do you even know if she’s from Asia – she could have been born here in New Zealand for all you know.

    The first time I came across grocery sniffing was from some white guy in your electorate actually:

    http://thestandard.org.nz/john-keys-porirua-market-adventure/

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  111. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    philu will return soon.
    he’s just out the back giving the monkey a spank.
    its really hard work today after the hiding he gave it yesterday.
    the little twerp.

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  112. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “Yeah, because having a whole lot of loaded guns around at any one time is a really good idea.”

    Exactly the way Ghadaffi, Castro and the Chicom Generals and every other little tinpot dictator or fucked in the head liberal thinks.

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  113. Ryan Sproull (7,056 comments) says:

    Just because your wife is Togan does not mean you are not racist

    Courage Wolf,

    That typo you just made, I made the same one five years ago and got in a whole bunch of trouble for publishing a Togan flag in an article about Tongans. Of all the typos Google wouldn’t notice…

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  114. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    http://whoar.co.nz/2011/just-who-is-little-brother-the-anonymity-emboldened-tough-guy-on-a-message-board/

    ..As reporter Mike Miliard points out in “You are Being Watched,” most recently published by the Sacramento News & Review, -

    - those vested in online privacy have been “drawn to a battle between two conflicting notions—and the winner of that battle may determine what kind of Internet we end up with.”

    Those in the first camp are most concerned about corporate opportunists and government spies, known collectively as Big Brother.

    Even if some citizens haven’t yet surrendered their anonymity to Facebook or Twitter -

    - when anyone logs in at work or browses almost anything online their every keyboard stroke and mouse click is being tracked, analyzed, and saved.

    “Your smart phone—jam packed with apps coded by who knows who and potentially loaded with spyware—is a picket homing beacon, trackable by satellite,” Miliard reports.

    “There are trucks with cameras on their roofs, trundling past your apartment, duly noting you unsecured Wi-Fi signal.”

    Walmart is even “putting radio frequency identification tags in your underwear.”

    There are also, according to a special report Miliard references from the Washington Post, some 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies in the U.S. developing programs related to counterterrorism, homeland security, and intelligence.

    While Big Brother gets all the ink, though, there’s an equally insidious threat to our privacy that some Internet advocates have come to call Little Brother.

    “Who is Little Brother?” Miliard asks rhetorically.

    “He’s all the people you know – sort of know – or wish you didn’t know:…

    … creepy, barely remembered high-school classmates;…

    … Machiavellian co-workers; …

    …your angry ex.

    But mostly you really don’t know who Little Brother is – because Little Brother is anonymous.

    He or she is part of a sea of nameless faces:..

    … the anonymity-emboldened tough guy on a message board …

    … or an auteur posting a sadistic video on YouTube -

    - or an obsessive Twitter stalker, -

    -or, sometimes – a malicious suburban mom hiding behind a hoax identity while taunting a teenager to suicide….”

    gee..!..

    who do all those examples remind you of..?

    it’s spooky…!

    he must read the commenters at kiwiblog…eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  115. paws (197 comments) says:

    HONE KEY IS A DUMB BORING LIAR, re the bemmers,BMW (i could have handled it better) this means i got caught with my pants down.When the PM we voted in is greasy crap how can you handle it.as his words slime through your fingers, opps some REALLY dumb posters respect this liar.

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  116. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    philu
    that didnt take too long, did it dear ?
    hope you saw my efforts at 2.52 and 3.06
    i know you are not capable of responding you little twerp
    but i didn’t want you to miss them.

    Now, off you go, that bloody monkey needs attention, again…….eh….?

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  117. RightNow (6,780 comments) says:

    you seriously need more iron in your dogfood paws.

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  118. david (2,547 comments) says:

    You just gotta laugh at the headlines sometimes. This on Stuff today

    “Native bird gets new pesk-free island home”

    No wonder the MSM is going down the shitter and people are seeking information that has had a bit of thought applied.

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  119. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    isn’t that be-real a find…eh..?

    definitely lifted the tone of the place..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  120. magic bullet (776 comments) says:

    This blog has become so banal, as to border on irrelevance. You don’t learn anything important or interesting here any more.

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  121. paws (197 comments) says:

    Could someone publish things that hone key could have/ has lined up for future purchases ,by act changes and the ability to be in on the ground floor via a family trust, or his wealth in dealerships with overseas interests ,ie energy oil or mineral or land wealth, he didnt become PM because he loves us. there BIG money to be made, the smiling assasian, he cuddles gays and maoris not middle class white motherfuckers.We see though him

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  122. pentwig (240 comments) says:

    phool/luphi

    It is a bloody sight more interesting than your dribble at 4:21

    … knuckle dragging twerp you…. eh..

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  123. Dirty Rat (504 comments) says:

    Now I am not a racist, but there was this black bast…..

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  124. paws (197 comments) says:

    RightNow (2,259) Says:

    February 21st, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    you seriously need more iron in your dogfood paws.

    RightNow, hone key lied when he said he knew nothing,about the BMWs hes crap he knew and this liars YOUR MAN i will never vote for it again

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  125. starboard (2,489 comments) says:

    paws..could you please speaka in da english?

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  126. pentwig (240 comments) says:

    phool/luphi

    I see you got your arse kicked in on frogblog.

    You really get huffy when you are proved wrong.. eh..

    And sulking…. eh..

    Find a librarian and cry on their shoulder…..that should make you feel better.

    Alternatively have a BIG MAC….. wonderful for the woes.. eh…

    You should really peddle your wares on the stranded. They would love you. Probably start a fan club in your honour.

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  127. mike tan (433 comments) says:

    Phillip Ure – I am willing to give you a job cleaning several of my properties at the minimum wage, please let us know if you are willing to work.

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  128. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Thats a good one.
    A pathetic parasite twerp such as philu talking about lifting the tone of the place.
    Thats one of the best ones yet.
    The little twerp.

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  129. starboard (2,489 comments) says:

    “Phillip Ure – I am willing to give you a job cleaning several of my properties at the minimum wage, please let us know if you are willing to work”.

    ..shit your keen there Mike…make sure all the good stuff is locked away..

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  130. mike tan (433 comments) says:

    To all the global warming people (philu, Luc etc)

    A simple test for you:

    Image the earth is a blackbody at 17C (this is a very simplistic assumption).

    Using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_b…3Boltzmann_law and the radiative forcing data from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenho…_gas_emissions what would the new equilibrium temperature of model Earth be if it were at equilibrium before, and is now subject to that amount of additional radiative forcing? What’s the temperature change?

    Providing the correct answer to this question (show your calculation) will show that you have some level of knowledge on the subject which you discuss.

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  131. mike tan (433 comments) says:

    Sorry the first link is : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackbody

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  132. mike tan (433 comments) says:

    “..shit your keen there Mike…make sure all the good stuff is locked away..”

    I mean only the outside (cutting the lawns, trimming the trees etc)

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  133. starboard (2,489 comments) says:

    Good thinking Mike. Now you have me thinking. Phool , I too will offer you a weeks work mowing , trimming , weeding , and painting ( outside) my rental properties here in Christchurch. One is empty so you may stay in it. I will pay your return airfare from Auckland and I will also pay you the minimum hourly rate. What do you think? Are you able and willing to work?

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  134. MyNameIsJack (2,415 comments) says:

    5 posts by bereal, not one with content. Each one of them simply abuse of another poster.

    One wonders what fixation bereal has with philu and if there is a cure for it.

    bereal DID pose one question –

    Well, Answer this you little twerp. What do you say to someone like my neice who is a solo mum with two kids
    who has a full time job, contributes to our society, helps pay your dole, you bludger.

    I don’t know what Phil would say, but my words to bereal’s neice would be – sorry you’ve got a gormless adenoidal shithead auntie.

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  135. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    thank you very much for the offers..

    but the realities of the poverty-trap are such that any earnings over $85 per week are clawed back at an 85% rate…

    so…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  136. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    Phool

    You have just been offered work, work that you are able to do, tell us why you should not have your benefit stopped immediately?

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  137. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    Jack

    Can I take it that you are happy to have Phool bludging from the tax payer?

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  138. MyNameIsJack (2,415 comments) says:

    BB, I don’t give a phuck how Phil gets his $, and I don’t see why you’re so obsessed with it, either.

    So, let’s just say Phil gets a job, how many unemployed would that leave?

    As to the “work” Phil was offered, I doubt its genuine, and even if it was, its only for a week. I don’t see why anyone would uproot themselves for a week.

    Now, maybe if the work was closer to where Phil lives …

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  139. Yvette (2,735 comments) says:

    If some individual interfered with Election results, to transfer 16,459 votes from a Labour candidate to the Greens, or fiddle the figures so Parliament had a balance different to that determined by democratic Election, that person would probably get some jail time.
    So why is Chris Carter allowed to do it?

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  140. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    Jack

    For a start they are not his $..they belong to those of us who pay tax, he steals them from us every week.

    Is it an obsession, perhaps, however it is justifiable given that he does not contribute anything to society, he is a taker, he takes all he can and gives nothing back.

    I don’t give a fuck where the work is that Phool has been offered, he should be forced to take it or lose his benefit.

    Things are changing Jack, the people have had enough of parasites like Phool, times are about to get a lot tougher for them, I for one cannot wait for that to happen.

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  141. mike tan (433 comments) says:

    I am based in Auckland and the contract would be for atleast 1 year (provided he does a good job).

    I have properties overseas and if he shows himself to be competent i will consider paying his way to get there to continue working for me.

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  142. Viking2 (11,216 comments) says:

    PM’s advisor knew about BMW purchase

    Monday, 21, Feb, 2011 4:02PM

    One of the Prime Minister’s key advisors was aware of the BMW purchase seven months ago.

    Prime Minister John Key has previously said he was unaware of the decision to buy new vehicles until he was told by one of his drivers.

    However email correspondence released today shows Mr Key’s chief of staff, Wayne Eagleson, was in discussions with Ministerial Services about the BMW contract in July last year.

    In the email Mr Eagleson said it was the Government’s intention to renew the contract.

    John Key is expected to release further details about the contract for the BMWs later today.

    But Labour Leader Phil Goff says the Prime Minister has been telling too many different stories about the cars and is accusing him of being devious and inconsistent about the nature of the contract.

    He says he finds it repugnant that Mr Key has said the death of Private Kirifi Mila in Afghanistan distracted his attention from the issue

    [DPF: Off topic 10 demerits]

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  143. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    if someone wants to really help me…they cd flick me some seed money…

    ..so i can take whoar to the next level..

    ..given my situation…it obviously couldn’t be guaranteed..

    ..but i wd offer a serious interest rate on any monies advanced….

    ..and wd expect income generation from early on..

    ..and each day…the aggregation concept i am working on is becoming more the model for the future…

    …there is so much information/news out there…and so much of it is crap..

    ..people will increasingly want others to act as editors/selectors for them…

    ..and that is what i do well..

    did you know that i put together the radio awards skite-reel for mikey havoc..

    ..for his entry when he got his best new broadcaster award…?

    ..plus years of producing radio shows etc…

    i must tell you sometime about the psychic talkback show i produced with jackie brown as host…and psychic guest..

    it both fucken rocked and rolled…eh..?

    ..i am one multi-talented individual…eh..?

    ..yr money would be well invested..

    ..we all know that timing is al.

    ..and the time for the news aggregation model is right now…

    ..and boy…do i run a lean/mean/tight machine…

    the profit margins when they come..will be healthy..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  144. starboard (2,489 comments) says:

    but phool…Im offering you a weeks work with accommodation and airfares…Mikes offer is for a year…who knows where it could go from there…you could start your own property maintenace business ( like I did ) and the skys the limit…you can finally flick the benefit.

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  145. starboard (2,489 comments) says:

    [DPF: Off topic 10 demerits]
    ..WTF?..its the GD ?

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  146. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    oh..!..i also have a masters degree..with (second class) honours..

    ..eh…?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  147. Pete George (23,149 comments) says:

    but the realities of the poverty-trap are such that any earnings over $85 per week are clawed back at an 85% rate…

    It’s not a poverty trap, it’s an excuse to continue being lazy. Benefits are not an alternative to be considered, they should be a last resort if you don’t have any other option.

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  148. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    [DPF: Off topic 10 demerits]

    ??????
    Grossly unfair!

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  149. starboard (2,489 comments) says:

    if someone wants to really help me…they cd flick me some seed money.

    ..gotta business plan ?

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  150. Viking2 (11,216 comments) says:

    And the latest great money making scheme is looking like going the way of digging holes and letting the miners go to work.

    On Tv1 tonight the results of a poll asking what voters thought of the idea of selling state assets 60% said they don’t want them sold.
    Well that was a resoundingly successful proposition from the Govt. wasn’t it.

    As Karl Du Fresne has pointed out the honey moon is on the wane. Going into peoples houses and business daily as I do I quickly get a feel for whats on the go and this decline in belief of the Key govt. is accelerating.

    The biggest question is “well who do we vote for that is going to make a difference to NZ?”
    People are getting worked up over the Foreshore bill and about the youth rates.

    Now the next big thing is to get a seat on the Security Council. Well fuck us all. that’s just what we need. Perhaps that’s Key’s retirement Plan
    When are we going to stop wasting time and money on that useless organization?

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  151. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    Mike Tan

    Please get in touch with WINZ tomorrow and make that offer to them, name Phool if you can as the man you want to do the job.

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  152. cha (3,825 comments) says:

    Who can watch long stabby thing without peeing themselves?.

    I was doing okay until “whack one off”.

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  153. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    …Mike…make sure all the good stuff is locked away..

    Lock the oven door too.

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  154. Pete George (23,149 comments) says:

    V2 will have just pasted the whole message from here including the demerits, so not for GD.

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  155. Viking2 (11,216 comments) says:

    Oh the demerits were given for posting on the Dyson thread. all about politicians wasting money just the same and about using smoke screen to manage the spin.

    The demerits won’t change what others think of the subject.

    I seem to recall it was Key who said this.

    Having to explain “means you have lost” ,or words to that effect, sometime before the last election and I think that was repeated by the host a few times.

    Key was doin the explaining.

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  156. adze (1,937 comments) says:

    Phil,
    You may find some of these links useful in terms of building your business idea (and possibly finding angel investors/grants).

    http://www.theicehouse.co.nz/

    http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/individuals/a-z-benefits/business-training-and-advice-grant.html

    http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/individuals/a-z-benefits/enterprise-allowance.html

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  157. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “….gotta business plan ?..”

    yes…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  158. mike tan (433 comments) says:

    “Please get in touch with WINZ tomorrow and make that offer to them, name Phool if you can as the man you want to do the job.”

    Great idea. Does he go by his real name?

    Whilst it seems like a plan, unfortunatley it is very likely that they will hit me with some BS privacy clause..

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  159. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    thank you adz..

    i am seriously thinking about the enterprise allowance option..

    ..if nothing else pops up..

    and the icehouse has an open day door thing in the first wk of each month..i think…

    ..i plan to go and talk with them in early march…

    thank you for thinking of providing those ideas/options..

    whatever happens..i’ll be off the benny soon…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  160. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    Perhaps if you word it in such a way as to suggest that you really want to help a guy you have been chatting with on line.

    A man who is battling, a man who wants to set a good example to his kids and a man who is desperate for work.

    I am sure they cannot turn that down Mike.

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  161. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    and..nice of you to show yr true colours so early there..mr tan..

    heads-up taken on board..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  162. Viking2 (11,216 comments) says:

    http://lindsaymitchell.blogspot.com/

    Interesting given the posting I did in the weekend.

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  163. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    philu said “whatever happens..i’ll be off the benny soon…”

    When that happens, how will bereal occupy her time when she can no longer hurl abuse at philu?
    It is still quite warm, though so there may be a supply of flies around the house that she can pull the wings off.

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  164. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    No use whatever talking about work with a little twerp like philu.
    FFS call in the psycologists to anlyse.
    Poor sod has bit like a fish. He cant see when he is being had on.
    He thinks his ship has come in at last the poor pathetic twerp.
    He thinks people are sorry for him, he doesn’t get it that he is held in contempt.
    ‘i am one multi-talented individual’
    ‘yr money would be well invested’
    ‘and boy..i run a lean mean tight machine’
    ‘if someone wants to help me they cd flick me some seed money’
    Jeez he really believes people are almost as stupid as he is.
    Almost makes you want to cry its so pittifull. Really sad actually.

    the real story . poor little philu is,
    too soft for hard work,
    too tough for easy work,
    too tired for day work,
    too heavy for light work,
    too light for heavy work,
    cant see for night work.

    The little twerp.

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  165. Viking2 (11,216 comments) says:

    Found a job for Phil

    http://oswaldbastable.blogspot.com/2011/02/welfare-reform.html

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  166. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    bereal said “FFS call in the psycologists to anlyse.”

    Whatever the hell that means?
    Someone hold her down and I’ll call a Doctor.

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  167. Viking2 (11,216 comments) says:

    http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/?p=4969

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  168. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    By the way
    Rodders , if your so effing stupid as to think that a bludging parasite like philu will be
    off the benny any time soon, i’ve got a harbour bridge i can sell you real cheap, you moron.

    Hey, here’s an idea, why don’t you and Jackoff and philu go into business together . LOL

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  169. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Is there a Doctor in the house?

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  170. reid (16,062 comments) says:

    philu (10,453) Says:
    February 21st, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    “….gotta business plan ?..”

    yes…

    phil I suggest you change your business adviser for its quite obvious the person who’s put it together has no idea what’s happening in the busy world of making money on your own.

    It called business phil because the whole idea is that you want to be busy, all the time, until you can’t manage it by yourself so you get someone to help, etc etc. This is in fact what happens phil and the “business plan” is specifically intended to direct you toward that.

    So how are the sales going, phil. No wait a second, what exactly is your product/service offering? Perhaps we could all help by spotting the flaws and kindly and gently explaining how patently fucked the whole thing might be point by point.

    It’s just your busi-ness by all accounts phil has no customers. This is normally point number one, of the business plan. Sometimes activity for its own sake, like typing at your keyboard for hours and hours, isn’t really productive, unless it’s in the context of interacting with and obtaining customers. But you seem to spend an inordinate time here at KB phil and I’m wondering if its ever occurred that we’re not customers and neither even if we were are any of us apart from MNIJ and Todd ever likely to buy anything at all from you ever and I very much doubt you’d get more than $20 apiece from Jack and Todd.

    I just wondered if you knew all of this for if not it could explain why your business plan so far hasn’t produced any results at all, customer-wise, and you haven’t seemed yet to notice that this could be a bit of a problem, for the current version of the business plan.

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  171. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    philu 7.06
    “if nothing else pops up”
    You have no idea at all you poor sick bludger.
    Things dont just ‘pop up.’ In the world everyone else lives in we go out and find our opportunities.
    How the fuck is anything going to “pop up” for a twerp like you who sits at home all day smoking dope, watching TV,
    feeling sorry for yourself, posting drivel on blogsites, and scoffing at everyone else You really are
    beyond belief you poor sick fuck ?

    Rodders, thats why we need to bring in the psycologists.
    Get it now dear?

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  172. Dirty Rat (504 comments) says:

    Viking2 (3,405)

    February 21st, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    [DPF: Off topic 10 demerits]

    huh ?

    Is the BMW spend up not a topical subject, bad luck Viking2, you should have sadi how wonderful it was for them to save the taxpayers money

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  173. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    why can’t/don’t you use your real name bereal..?

    is it because you would be ashamed to be known for your words/abuse..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  174. Luc Hansen (4,573 comments) says:

    @Mike Tan

    Go and try out your maths at Real Climate, and post me the link.

    Cheers

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  175. Luc Hansen (4,573 comments) says:

    Oh, just by the way, I don’t do climate science. I listen to the scientists. The same way as if I need legal advice, I llisten to the lawyers.

    Who do you listen to Mike?

    Grasshopper?

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  176. nickb (3,673 comments) says:

    philu, would you like some constructive criticism of your blog? Seriously, not taking the piss.

    Change the name, whoar isn’t very catchy.

    Take away that random pic of that guy at the top.

    Change the formatting, colours, something, its is just a bit bland.

    Use proper grammar, not your “Kiwiblog” grammar. I mean seriously, do you want your site to be a worldbeater when you write like a drunk monkey?

    Give some balance to the stories. It won’t be a very credible news aggregator (whatever that is) if every 2nd story is about Fonterra spies plotting to assassinate Sue Kedgley etc etc.

    I’m serious. Not trying to be condescending at all. A news aggregator is a good idea in theory, just needs some (maybe a lot) of polish.

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  177. Viking2 (11,216 comments) says:

    Well I take it all back. Some days are good days. That nice Mr Key has given me a wage rise.

    Oh and Phil has got one too!!! Hehehehe.

    Govt raises superannuation, main benefit payments by 3.75% to “keep pace with rising costs”; Rise includes October’s GST compensation.

    Superannuation and ‘main’ benefit payments will increase by 3.75% from April 1 to keep pace with rising costs, Prime Minister John Key and Social Development Minister Paula Bennett announced on Monday afternoon.

    However, the rise includes the 2.02% rise in payments in October last year as compensation for the rise in GST, which was raised from 12.5% to 15% on October 1, 2010.

    See the release from Social Development Minister Paula Bennett:

    http://www.interest.co.nz/news/govt-raises-superannuation-main-benefit-payments-375-keep-pace-rising-costs-rise-includes-octobers-g

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  178. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “..just needs some (maybe a lot) of polish…”

    seed money polishes…dosen’t it..?

    and ‘the guy at the top’ was done for me by chris knox..

    and i think it is a brilliant example of his art/skills…

    ..and a wonderful summation of what i am doing with whoar..

    ..so…

    and i am one person..doing this each day…

    ..and what i cd do with a couple of editors/workers helping alongside…eh..?

    whoar…!

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  179. starboard (2,489 comments) says:

    a question . Why whoar and what does it mean.

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  180. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    i wanted to create a word/brand i owned..an attention-grabbing exclamation..

    not just another daily news/w.h.y…

    ..that’s part of it..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  181. adze (1,937 comments) says:

    I presume it’s an alternative spelling of the exclamation “phwoar!”

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  182. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    yeah..i thought that was quite an ugly word to look at..

    ..but liked the spirit of the exclamation..

    also a play on the media as whores…

    who ar whores..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  183. Luc Hansen (4,573 comments) says:

    Intersting news Viking2 – 3.75% for beneficiaries.

    I wonder if the PM still thinks teachers are “disconnected from reality” for demanding 4%? (Cleverly distracting attention from all the clawbacks the govt remains intent upon).

    DPF? Come in spinner!

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  184. Steve (4,517 comments) says:

    (whore.bludger.co.nz)
    You will never work Phool. How much tax has your ‘News Aggregation Site’ payed in NZ?
    You are a fucking leech, parsite, suckholer, prick, arsehole, bleeder, and all of those those similar things including that C word.
    And you know that you will still get away with it, without never paying one cent back to the TAXPAYER that allows you to live.
    You fucking maggott

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  185. tom hunter (4,532 comments) says:

    “Whoarrrr – my ideology isn’t dead, it just smells funny”

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  186. pentwig (240 comments) says:

    Philu

    I agree with nickb above with all his points.

    A news aggregation is a very good concept as you pointed out the other day when referring to the web seminar in Wgtn.

    The problem with whoar as a news aggregation service is that it is biased by your own ideology.

    It will never sell one item as it stands now, you need to be freer in your thinking.

    You really need to put up current items that people NEED to read and that they will buy.

    Reading about veganism, cannabis and extreme left wing thinking is not a winner.

    Get rid of your bias and you would have a winner.

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  187. Viking2 (11,216 comments) says:

    Interesting Phil. I decided to google whoar.
    Well that’s the only whoar it finds both in NZ and in the world.
    So unique brand name. Very good because unique words are hard to do. hope you have TM ed it.
    Not expensive in NZ.

    suggest that you do take note of some of the suggestions because NZPA are ending their free news information and that will make a good site of use to lots of the organizations.

    Time to get serious about your site. and hey the help is free. Don’t need to pay if you treat people nicely.

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  188. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    3.75% for the parasites….

    Some incentive to find a job aye Neville Key.

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  189. mike tan (433 comments) says:

    Urban Dictionary:

    “Whoar”

    Defintion: Originally coined during a Counter-strike game, when it was decided that a word was need to describe the complete jerkiness one can exhibit.

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  190. nickb (3,673 comments) says:

    Phil, what viking said.

    http://www.iponz.govt.nz/cms/trade-marks/how-to-apply-for-a-trade-mark

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  191. Viking2 (11,216 comments) says:

    Luc Hansen (2,455) Says:
    February 21st, 2011 at 8:25 pm
    I wonder if the PM still thinks teachers are “disconnected from reality”

    everyone thinks”knows” teachers are disconnected from reality.
    What was the point you were trying to make?

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  192. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Do you notice that the deranged can’t even spell words like “parasite” and maggot”?

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  193. reid (16,062 comments) says:

    Oh, just by the way, I don’t do climate science. I listen to the scientists. The same way as if I need legal advice, I llisten to the lawyers.

    Who do you listen to Mike?

    Grasshopper?

    Luc I’ve observed on this issue you’re behaving exactly precisely like the propaganda-driven Israel-firsters behave whenever Israel does something atrocious. I thought you were more astute than that but on AGW, apparently not. Why have you shut down your logic circuits and surrendered your thinking to what you “feel” is right? There is plenty of genuine, detailed and replicable counter-evidence out there from serious scientists, not the play-skool ones, the serious ones. Of course, you need to drop the “feeling” and engage the thinking.

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  194. Viking2 (11,216 comments) says:

    ONLY A MAN WOULD ATTEMPT THIS

    Just try reading this without laughing till you cry!!!
    Pocket Tazer Stun Gun, a great gift for the wife. A guy who purchased
    his lovely wife a pocket Tazer for their anniversary submitted this:

    Last weekend I saw something at Larry’s Pistol & Pawn Shop that
    sparked my interest. The occasion was our 15th anniversary and I was
    looking for a little something extra for my wife Julie. What I came
    across was a 100,000-volt, pocket/purse-sized Tazer.

    The effects of the Tazer were supposed to be short lived, with no
    long term adverse affect on your assailant, allowing her adequate time
    to retreat to safety…??

    WAY TOO COOL! Long story short, I bought the device and brought it
    home…. I loaded two AAA batteries in the darn thing and pushed the
    button. Nothing! I was disappointed. I learned, however, that if I
    pushed the button and pressed it against a metal surface at the same
    time, I’d get the blue arc of electricity darting back and forth
    between the prongs.

    AWESOME!!! Unfortunately, I have yet to explain to Julie what that
    burn spot is on the face of her microwave.

    Okay, so I was home alone with this new toy, thinking to myself that
    it couldn’t be all that bad with only two AAA batteries, right?

    There I sat in my recliner, my cat Gracie looking on intently
    (trusting little soul) while I was reading the directions and thinking
    that I really needed to try this thing out on a flesh & blood moving
    target.

    I must admit I thought about zapping Gracie (for a fraction of a
    second) and then thought better of it. She is such a sweet cat. But,
    if I was going to give this thing to my wife to protect herself
    against a mugger, I did want some assurance that it would work as
    advertised.

    Am I wrong?

    So, there I sat in a pair of shorts and a tank top with my reading
    glasses perched delicately on the bridge of my nose, directions in one
    hand, and Tazer in another.

    The directions said that: a one-second burst would shock and disorient
    your assailant;

    a two-second burst was supposed to cause muscle spasms and a major
    loss of bodily control; and

    a three-second burst would purportedly make your assailant flop on
    the ground like a fish out of water.
    Any burst longer than three seconds would be wasting the batteries.
    All the while I’m looking at this little device measuring about 5″
    long, less than 3/4 inch in circumference (loaded with two itsy, bitsy
    AAA batteries); pretty cute really, and thinking to myself, ‘no
    possible way!’

    What happened next is almost beyond description, but I’ll do my best.

    I’m sitting there alone, Gracie looking on with her head cocked to
    one side so as to say, ‘Don’t do it stupid,’ reasoning that a one
    second burst from such a tiny lil ole thing couldn’t hurt all that
    bad. I decided to give myself a one second burst just for heck of it.

    I touched the prongs to my naked thigh, pushed the button, and…

    HOLY MOTHER OF GOD. WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. WHAT THE… !!!

    I’m pretty sure Hulk Hogan ran in through the side door, picked me up
    in the recliner, then body slammed us both on the carpet, over and
    over and over again. I vaguely recall waking up on my side in the
    fetal position, with tears in my eyes, body soaking wet, both nipples
    on fire, testicles nowhere to be found, with my left arm tucked under
    my body in the oddest position, and tingling in my legs! The cat was
    making meowing sounds I had never heard before, clinging to a picture
    frame hanging above the fireplace, obviously in an attempt to avoid
    getting slammed by my body flopping all over the living room.

    Note:
    If you ever feel compelled to ‘mug’ yourself with a Tazer,
    one note of caution:

    There is NO such thing as a one second burst when you zap yourself!
    You will not let go of that thing until it is dislodged from your hand
    by a violent thrashing about on the floor!
    A three second burst would be considered conservative!

    A minute or so later (I can’t be sure, as time was a relative thing at
    that point), I collected my wits (what little I had left), sat up and
    surveyed the landscape.

    My bent reading glasses were on the mantel of the fireplace.
    The recliner was upside down and about 8 feet or so from where it
    originally was.
    My triceps, right thigh and both nipples were still twitching.
    My face felt like it had been shot up with Novocain, and my bottom lip
    weighed 88 lbs.
    I had no control over the drooling.
    Apparently I had crapped in my shorts, but was too numb to know for
    sure, and my sense of smell was gone.
    I saw a faint smoke cloud above my head, which I believe came from my hair.

    I’m still looking for my testicles and I’m offering a significant
    reward for their safe return!

    PS: My wife can’t stop laughing about my experience, loved the gift
    and now regularly threatens me with it!

    If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!

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  195. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    thank you to viking and ncb for the advice..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  196. reid (16,062 comments) says:

    phil I thought my advice was pretty good as well but not surprised you just let it pass you by, again. Universal wisdom leading you to success and wonder where the hills are alive is much worse than being on the DPB, isn’t it.

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  197. mike tan (433 comments) says:

    Luc, thanks for admitting that you have no idea what you are talking about, i trust the readers can judge the credibility of your claims based on this admission.

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  198. Nookin (3,142 comments) says:

    V2
    You would have been better off buying her chocolates.

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  199. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    philu
    Steve 8.25 spelled it out for you again you joke, you are virually unique in that you have no shame at all.
    You are a bludging leech parasite, sitting on your arse, supported by your countrymen and women who
    work for a living while you, “wait for something to come up” or, ” i was thinking about doing that in March”
    while you sit at home watching TV, smoking dope and scoffing at everyone else. You really are contemptable.
    You are supported by us all and still prepared to put your sick claw out for more, for ,”seed money”
    You must be the weakest, sickest fuck i have ever struck in my life so far.
    Why don’t you do the decent thing.
    You twerp.

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  200. RightNow (6,780 comments) says:

    It’s like a modern day Pygmalion, turning philu into a successful entrepreneur.
    Who’s taking the bets?

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  201. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    to pentwig i wd note that i am not trying to be all things to all people..

    and i have big cannabis/vegan archives…and do those stories as they happen…

    tho’ ..with help/format update…i wd cast the net wider…

    and i dunno about ‘extreme left wing’…i highlight progressive writings/opinions…

    ..they don’t get much sunlight in new zealand..

    and also i have always aimed for a global audience…

    and the audience for quality writiing/analysis is out there..

    ..and a desire for someone to find it for them…

    ..so they can get their daily dose in one package..

    plus i think my grab is quite catholic..

    ..i do film/music/art/humour/cartoons/w.h.y…

    ..a 100% dry/dusty polemic-site…wd bore me rigid…

    ..also…the plan has always been for multi-media..

    things like talkshows are cheap as chips to make…as just one example..

    whoar will be a multi-media beast..

    and that ‘little face’ done by chris knox..

    will become very well known/loved..

    ..and most importantly…trusted…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  202. Viking2 (11,216 comments) says:

    Not at the rate you are going Phil.
    Takes more than a wild imagination. That is the idea but you still have to make it work and then you make $.

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  203. reid (16,062 comments) says:

    You twerp.

    Bereal I’m surprised with the power of the entire internet at your keyboard this is the best adjective you could come up with to describe phil.

    I’m kinda sick of talking about phil, frankly.

    What about Key’s admission he mishandled the cars. Isn’t that unusual, and somewhat refreshing and almost unprecedented to see a leader the PM none the less admit a mistake in public. Very significant. Quite took the wind out of Liarbore’s sails. Aw. And Radio Left Wing was all set to hammer it again as well. Hope Geoff and Simon don’t have to radically re-engineer overnight. Awwww.

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  204. Viking2 (11,216 comments) says:

    PRIVILEGE

    “The face he showed to the country this week was that of a man who didn’t give a stuff what people thought. It may be one that his colleagues and National supporters hope he will not be revealing too often.” Herald Editorial on John Key, Sunday 20 February, 2011

    Is John Key a man of his word, or simply a man of words? That is a question many are beginning to ask as finally the electorate’s love affair with what was an image of hope is starting to tire.

    The image of the Prime Minister is a crucial issue for the National Party as it faces an election in nine months time. He is after all their greatest and perhaps only asset. But in politics, as in life, actions speak louder than words, and if the public ever get a hint that they are being treated like fools or taken for granted there will be a backlash – which could cost National the election, and a number of National’s electorate MPs their jobs.

    Over the last week the shadows of doubt have appeared. TVNZ has caught the Prime Minister out over the embarrassing new fleet of BMWs. Thirty-four $200,000 cars that come complete with four-zone air conditioning, massaging seats, sixteen high-performance speakers, monitors and DVD players, an internet portal, automatic doors, and voice recognition starting. At the time John Key feigned innocence: “I can’t take responsibility for a contract that was entered into by the previous Labour Government, that wasn’t brought to my attention or to my ministers’ attention.”

    It was later found to be untrue. Not only was the National government responsible for the deal, but John Key had known about the cars all along having been taken out in one last April for a test drive!

    How the government could even contemplate doing a deal on such cars in this economic climate is almost incomprehensible. When the whole country is feeling the pain of recession, it is galling to see our elected VIPs even thinking that opulence is acceptable. It is very bad form, made worse by the Prime Minister’s lies – Cabinet Ministers have been sacked for less.

    John Key is lucky that the Parliamentary opposition has not been able to capitalise on this issue because it was Labour who bought the BMWs in the first place, and few parties in parliament are able to claim a moral high ground when it comes to the spending of taxpayers’ funds.

    But self-indulgence and BMWs is not the only question mark hanging over the Prime Minister’s integrity. Back in March of 2010 when he announced the review of the 2004 Foreshore and Seabed Act, John Key explained that he was not prepared to push through a law change unless the wider public were in support. The New Zealand Press Association reported it at the time in this way: “A discussion document released today said the Government preferred to declare the foreshore to be public domain, but reassert the right of Maori to seek modified customary title through the courts. Mr Key said the public domain concept was a pragmatic way to heal a ‘weeping sore’, but if there was not wide support then the current law could remain in place. The intent here is to put this issue to bed in a satisfactory way to the bulk of New Zealanders…”

    The review of the 2004 Foreshore and Seabed Act was driven by the Maori Party’s confidence and supply agreement with National. It mandated a review only, not a law change. Astonishingly, National suppressed the results of that review for 6 months to hide the fact that the public were overwhelmingly opposed to a law change. 77 percent of the 1500 submitters wanted the present Foreshore and Seabed Act to remain in place, while 91 percent were opposed to the planned Marine and Coastal Area Bill.

    If John Key had intended to keep his promise, he should have dropped any idea of changing the law at that stage. But he pressed on.

    The Maori Affairs Select Committee received 5,794 written submissions on the Marine and Coastal Area Bill. Most were opposed to the bill with an astounding 97 percent of oral submissions being opposed to the Bill as it stands. National cannot ‘spin’ these results: almost no-one who has examined National’s law change wants it – neither Maori nor non-Maori. As a matter of trust, John Key is under an obligation to the people of New Zealand to honour his promise and leave the present law in place.

    Having been caught out lying over BMWs is something that is likely to be soon forgotten. Going back on his word over his planned race-based carve-up of New Zealand’s beaches and Territorial Sea is a far more serious and enduring matter for National.

    Without a doubt, as more people realise what is going on, National’s favour with the electorate will drop. We have already seen National party support fall 5 percent in the most recent poll, and we know that many former National supporters are so angry about National’s increasingly close liaison with the Maori Party that they have stopped donating to the Party and vowed not to vote for them again.

    This view is reflected in the article Polls, MMP, and the ‘Bugger Off’ Factor by this week’s NZCPR Guest Commentator Professor Roger Bowden, who states, “I suspect that there are many former National Party voters who are deeply troubled by damaging outcomes like the foreshore and seabed legislation, or dismayed by the dishonesty of the political process involved.” To read the article, click the sidebar link>>>

    Already a number of parties are lining up to campaign on repealing the Marine and Coastal Area Bill if it is passed into law, and Winston Peters will no doubt use it as a platform to expose National’s weaknesses and relaunch his party. Certainly the Coastal Coalition intends fighting against politicians who want to trade away our coastline so they can stay in office.

    While John Key and the architect of the Marine and Coastal Area Bill, Chris Finlayson, have turned a blind eye to the discontent that is fermenting around the country, some members of National have been left exposed. It is they, not those in the upper echelons of the party list that will end up paying the price.

    New Zealand’s Parliament is made up of 122 Members, 58 from National, 42 from Labour, 9 from the Greens, 5 from the Maori Party, 5 from ACT, 1 from United Future, 1 from Jim Anderton’s Progressive Party, and 1 independent – former Labour MP Chris Carter.

    There are 63 general electorate seats around the country: 41 are held by National, 18 by Labour, and 1 each by ACT, United, Progressives and Chris Carter. There are 7 Maori seats, 5 of which are held by the Maori Party, and two by Labour. Of the Maori Party seats, Rahui Katene in Te Tai Tonga has the smallest majority at 1,049.

    Of National’s 41 electorate seats, 9 had been held by Labour in 2002 and 2005, but had swung to National in 2008. If there is a swing away from National in November, some of those MPs will lose their seats – unless they have made a name for themselves fighting for the voters who elected them into office. Jonathan Young in the seat of New Plymouth has the lowest National majority of 105 votes. Next is Paula Bennett in Waitakere with a 632 majority, followed by Chris Auchinvole in West Coast/Tasman with 971, Nathan Guy in Otaki with 1354, Nikki Kaye in Auckland Central with 1497, Tim Macindoe in Hamilton West with 1618, Peseta Sam Lotu-liga in Maungakiekie with 1942, Todd McClay in Rotorua with 5065, and Louise Upston in Taupo with 6445.

    In addition, Peter Dunne is in an especially precarious position with his majority in the Ohariu seat sliding from 12,543 in 2002, to 7,702 in 2005, to 1,006 at the last election. His support for the Marine and Coastal Area Bill is likely to see him tossed out of Parliament – the end of the United Future Party.

    What we can conclude from the current polls is that National’s support is declining, and those lost votes are being dispersed across all other parties. I have no doubt the only thing propping up National’s support is the lack of alternatives. Labour has simply not been able to lift its game to seize the moment; it seems its own transgressions are still too fresh in voter memories, and its leadership is no match for John Key on the charisma scale.

    John Key has already stated that he does not intend to stay in the job for the long haul. If he loses the election he will move on to other things. That means he will not have to suffer the consequences of his divisive law changes.

    While events in the Middle East beam out from our televisions as sobering reminders of what happens when political leaders lose touch with the hopes and aspirations of voters, we can be relieved that we live in a peaceful democracy. However, more and more people are saying that it feels like we have a parliamentary dictatorship between elections. Electorate MPs are on the frontline of voter opinion and a number of current National Party MPs in marginal seats will be reflecting on that come 26 November. I wonder if their reflections will include wondering whether they should have spoken out against the Marine and Coastal Area Bill while they had the chance instead of passively toeing the party line.

    Last week’s fiasco over those luxury BMWs should serve as a warning that National has lost sight of the pressures being faced by real New Zealand. They were voted in on a wave of hope. New Zealanders wanted a prime minister and a government that listened – one that would create an economic environment that enabled people to get on and achieve their life’s aspirations. They didn’t vote for political back room deals to create Maori privilege and nor did they vote for MPs to grant themselves the privilege of thirty-four luxury BMWs.

    http://www.nzcpr.com/

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  205. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    on a lighter note
    here is one for Luc.

    Mohammed takes his daughter to the doctor.
    The doctor asks, ‘Is she sexually active Mohammed ?’
    Mohammed replies, ‘Nah, she just lies there, same as her mother does.’

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  206. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    reid
    Yeah your right, i’ve had a gutsfull myself. He just makes me want to puke though.
    i’ll give it a rest now.
    “Twerp.” is spot on for philu but , google it.
    i think it could be a noun.
    G’nite.

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  207. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    reid..i have always been on the dpb because i had to raise my boy..

    ..that is now just about done and dusted…

    ..and as i have been doing whoar for these years…

    ..and as it meshes with my qualifications/experience..

    ..and as i knew when i started that the aggregation model was for the future..

    ..i knew i just had to plug away until that time was right..

    ..and that time is now right..

    (anecdote:..when i started whoar…the boy and i lived in a warehouse space in albert st..

    ..opposite the herald…

    ..so i used to sit there doing whoar…and metaphorically shaking my fist out the window at the behemoth…

    ..and hollering that one day i was going to take that bastard down…

    ..it amazed me then…and amazes me now…

    ..that so many people…produce so little…

    ..i used to look at their product..

    ..look across at the heaving behemoth..

    ..and wonder what the fuck they all did all day..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  208. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    reid

    “I’m kinda sick of talking about phil, frankly.”

    And that is how Phool would like it, all the talk about BMW’s and Ruth Dyson mean very little when the biggest problem this nation faces is the huge number of parasites and bludgers like Phool.

    This is exactly how Labour and the Greens want us to react, they want us to shrug our shoulders and keep handing over our hard EARNED money to these bludgers, meanwhile we have kids growing up who think it is normal that dad is stoned out of his increasingly smaller brain every day and that the ‘government’ will pay you to stay at home doing nothing.

    Forget MP’s travel, forget about who lied to who and all the rest of the bullshit, the number one problem facing this nation is our out of date and out of touch Welfare system, we simply cannot allow the left to convince us that the status quo is inevitable and acceptable, plainly it is not.

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  209. mike tan (433 comments) says:

    blah blah blah it’s not my fault that i have had to live off your money blah blah blah

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  210. big bruv (13,452 comments) says:

    “i have always been on the dpb because i had to raise my boy..”

    Bullshit!..thousands of other single parents manage to do the same as you while holding down a job, stop making excuses for your lifestyle choice Phool.

    “..it amazed me then…and amazes me now…

    ..that so many people…produce so little…”

    Says the parasite who produces absolutely nothing of value 365 days a year.

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  211. reid (16,062 comments) says:

    phil your problem is you don’t want to understand busi-ness principles.

    I suspect I know why but I don’t give a fuck about thinking further about it cause this is the essence of success. It’s not evil, it’s not selfish, it’s not trampling over other people, it’s nothing that you appear to imagine it, to be, if you were to attempt to get there.

    For you see phil, there are as many paths to it, as there are people. You attain your own success amongst men however, only by giving more than you take. This is where it’s not quite working mate.

    And phil, this is the last time I respond to anything you say, which surrounds your fucked lefty thinking on just about every subject under the sun. I know you understand my perspective, in detail. You’re just being disingenuous, most of the time. Duh.

    So either start addressing what I say directly and engage me not obfuscate, or fuck off. Prove to me phil, you actually do have a masters.

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  212. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    Another slice of delusion/wishful thinking (take your pick) from Martyn “Dickhead” Bradbury.

    the left may lose the election, that’s always a possibility but sweet christ, we’re not pricks like you.

    Dohohohohohoho!

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  213. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    right ho reid…off ya go then..eh..?

    and if at any time in the future you plan on giving someone advice you hope/expect to be thanked for…

    ..maybe try not to leaven it with abuse…eh..?

    i’ll give you that one for free…

    and degree details available online at auckland university…

    and please..don’t address me again..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  214. reid (16,062 comments) says:

    This is how to do it people.

    P.S. Phil, your lefty thinking is fucked. You’re not fucked. It’s your lefty thinking.

    phil, I’m not playing. Change your thinking.

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  215. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    you promised you wouldn’t speak to me again…

    that lasted all of seven minutes…

    try harder…

    ..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  216. Yvette (2,735 comments) says:

    Philu – 9.23 pm

    (anecdote:..when i started whoar…the boy and i lived in a warehouse space in albert st..

    ..opposite the herald…

    ..so i used to sit there doing whoar…and metaphorically shaking my fist out the window at the behemoth…

    ..and hollering that one day i was going to take that bastard down…

    ..it amazed me then…and amazes me now…

    ..that so many people…produce so little…

    ..i used to look at their product..

    ..look across at the heaving behemoth..

    ..and wonder what the fuck they all did all day..

    And now an Aggregation of the Great Aggregator

    An anecdote:
    When I started WHOAR, the Boy and I lived in a warehouse space in Albert Street, opposite the Herald. So I used to sit there doing WHOAR and metaphorically shaking my fist out the window at the Behemoth and hollering that one day I was going to take that bastard down. It amazed me then, and amazes me now, that so many people produce so little.
    I used to look at their product, look across at the heaving Behemoth and wonder what the fuck they all did all day.

    Spot the difference Philu. You are going to have to change your style if you are going to fit all your shit in Apps for those little iPod screens.
    The Great Aggregator is going to need an equally Great Shit Shaper

    At least you are now beating the Behemoth by stealing their stuff, and stuff.co’s stuff, and re-spreading it.

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  217. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    i’m not stealing their stuff..

    i only highlight a paragraph…

    ..and i send readers to them…

    ..i don’t take readers from them..

    ..that’s the aggregation-model..

    ..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  218. pentwig (240 comments) says:

    philu

    Listen carefully as I will say this only once.

    If I was running a news aggregation service for the busy people of the world (they have to be your target audience as they have the means to pay) it has to be topical.

    Take today for instance. People are talking about the BMWs and the Middle East. I would source the very best I could find from both sides of the argument and condense them into a neutral article. I would endeavour not to show bias and I would NEVER EVER proffer an opinion.
    To give an opinion means you are going to lose clients. When you are in business you are in the business of making money no matter how repugnant you may find it.
    Everybody in the money making business have to do things they dislike. Shoe salesperson fitting smelly feet, prostitute servicing a client with obesity and bad breath. You get the picture. But the client is your bread and butter and is always right.
    Leave opinion to the editors of newspapers. Let your clients form their own opinion and in a balanced article the will.
    Do not show your natural leftie thinking or you will lose the clients on the right. Same as progressive/liberal. Be unbiased.
    Put in the correct ingredients, mix it right and you should have an award winning cake. As it stands you don’t, as your blog figures show.
    That is my offering in black and white. you will answer in red and yellow and I have probably wasted 10 minutes.

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  219. Gooner (995 comments) says:

    I’m probably going to be called a traitor or a fuckwit or something similar for this, but I’ve met Phil’s son, and he is a very well mannered, polite, well-presented nice young man. At least he was in 2005 (or so) when I met him.

    So lots of people here give Phil a hard time about his bludging, but he has raised a decent kid, at least it appeared to me as if he had.

    You owe me one Phil.

    Fire off the abuse.

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  220. Luc Hansen (4,573 comments) says:

    reid and Mike Tan

    As I have said before, I’ve wasted too much time chasing down deniers nonsense to bother now. There are plenty of sites that can do it much better than I ever could – eg hot_topic, Skeptical Science, Real Climate and, of course, James Hansen’s home page.

    As James Hansen said in a recent talk (I’ll post the link tomorrow if I remember), NASA place all their data on their website and if someone could come up with an alternative explanation, they would be famous. They would win a Nobel Prize.

    And you guys change your tunes as each denialist argument is closed down. First, the planet’s not warming. OK, it’s warming, but it not CO2. Ok, it’s CO2 but…

    Which is your favouite, guys?

    Come on Mike, show us your superiority – go to Gavin Schmidt and argue with him! Or even our own Martin Manning. What are you, man or mouse? I suspect I know the answer.

    There are some people who just can’t face up to facts, especially when those facts imply a degree of responsibility for some appalling consequences, even occurring as we post.

    I call it the Ricky Fitts syndrome.

    And a symptom is Occam’s Broom – sweeping inconvenient truths under the carpet.

    My energies are heading into letting our kids know what environment what they will inherit from us, and how they can salvage something from the mess. And it’s not just a hot planet we are bequeathing them

    All is not lost, and even if it is, they will still have to cope.

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  221. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    chrs gooner..

    he’s even better now…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  222. reid (16,062 comments) says:

    reid and Mike Tan

    Luc how about these guys

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100058265/us-physics-professor-global-warming-is-the-greatest-and-most-successful-pseudoscientific-fraud-i-have-seen-in-my-long-life/

    Personally, my energies are heading into letting our kids know what bullshit the enviwonmentalists pwopaganda is and to never ever believe them ever lest their evil poison turn one into a cane toad.

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  223. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    pentwig…

    http://whoar.co.nz/?s=libertarian

    the second story down is a profile of peter thiel..

    don’t say i don’t get around…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  224. Fisiani (976 comments) says:

    http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2011/4631/

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  225. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    philu
    you’ve been had like a dogs breakfast by many people today.
    You’ve made an even bigger laughable prick of your self than usual.
    Ever heard of. “by their fruits ye shall know them ”
    Well we know you, you bludging POS
    No fruits, no nothing, unless you count indolence, arrogance, smart alecness, drug addiction, envy.
    Seems some people on this blogsite actually feel sorry for you, but nowhere near as sorry as you
    must feelfor yourself.
    Life has delt you a hand like a foot hasnt it darling, its not your fault
    others had so much more advantage than you , you poor sad sack.
    you twerp.

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  226. pentwig (240 comments) says:

    phil

    That is a very interesting interview. Thought provoking. I rate it highly.
    If you ran your blog with that kind article and left out your personal ideology it would be on my must read list.
    99.9% of the people do not want to read about vegans or cannabis or biased material.

    You have a winner but get the right formula.

    ps Tiels education bubble theory has me buzzing.

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  227. pentwig (240 comments) says:

    phil

    Just a thought

    It is very evident that you have a passion for veganism, animal welfare, cannabis etc.

    Why not create a second blog for your ideologies and develop whoar as dedicated commercial unit.

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  228. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    pentwig..

    out of 44,000 stories/links…only about 1600 are vegan…

    btw..did you like the 24 different types of libertarians cartoon-strip..?..

    and my morning has started well…

    business telly is reporting on-line advertising rose 23% lat year..

    and is expected to rise another 25% this year..

    ..it has now overtaken radio..

    ..and is third behind print and television..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  229. Pete George (23,149 comments) says:

    David Garrett seems to be speaking his mind a bit these days:

    On his Twitter account, TV3 political reporter Patrick Gower said Mr Garrett had walked up to Mr Harawira and called him a “racist hater” before asking if he was “enjoying the scrutiny”.

    Mr Gower tweeted that Mr Garrett then sarcastically added “couldn’t happen to a nicer guy”.

    There could be a bit of bitter payback involved, but it was obviously quite public and will add to the conflicted esteem of his mother and electorate support versus the wider population. It’s a shame, Harawira could have been a good alternative MP, but his feelings of importance seemed to outgrow his actual importance and he let it get out of control.

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  230. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    .. Phil has raised a decent kid,..

    Impossible! If the kid has come up fine (and I wish the young lad the best), is due to his own efforts. Not because of his “father”, who is idleness personified, an accomplished bludger, and parasite second to none.

    A parent like him would be a deleterious influence on the live of any aspiring young boy.

    What can a youngster learn from someone who sits all day in front of a computer and does not contribute to society in any way? Nothing at all.

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  231. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Another of those brave actions from decisive John Key (it must be election year).
    The bludgers will be with us until the money runs out.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10707836

    The Government has ruled out cutting payments to people on the dole.

    The Welfare Working Group’s final report will be released tomorrow, giving the Government possible solutions to long-term dole dependency.

    Prime Minister John Key today said the Government would not consider reductions to main benefit levels, including the sickness, invalid’s, unemployment and domestic purposes benefits.

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  232. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    John Key was lying when he denied any previous knowledge of the matter.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/4685518/PM-signed-papers-relating-to-BMWs

    PM signed papers relating to BMWs

    Prime Minister John Key signed four documents that referred to a deal to buy a fleet of luxury cars – and at least three other ministers were briefed, documents reveal.

    Mr Key – who is responsible for Ministerial Services – says he was in the dark about the deal until a conversation with his driver two weeks ago. But an embarrassing paper trail, dating back to 2009, and issued yesterday by the Government shows there were a series of documents referencing the deal.

    And in July last year his chief of staff Wayne Eagleson met the manager of VIP Transport Service, Geoff Knighton, to discuss the renewal of a contract with BMW to supply 34 new cars.

    Mr Key said he was “not going to make excuses” and acknowledged “the matter should have been handled better by everybody, including myself”.

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