Hone wanted to be a Minister

February 21st, 2011 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

Claire Trevett in the Herald reports:

The Government’s arch critic, , wanted to become a minister when the first went into coalition with National in 2008, according to a confidential statement by caucus colleague Te Ururoa Flavell.

In his submission to today’s disciplinary committee hearing against Mr Harawira, obtained by the Herald, Mr Flavell said both he and the Te Tai Tokerau MP were prepared to take up ministerial positions – belying Mr Harawira’s recent strong criticisms of his party for staying in the coalition.

“Put it this way: If he was to have received a ministerial position, would he still be writing to criticise the relationship? Answer: I doubt it.”

I’d say Flavell is right.

Mr Flavell was also scathing about Mr Harawira’s criticism of National as “anti-worker” and “anti-environment,” saying the MP had had difficulties with his own staff and once told the caucus he did not believe in climate change and nobody would tell him to drive a smaller car.

Hmmn, Hone as co-leader of a new left party is starting to look very interesting!

In the often-emotional submission, Mr Flavell said it was not easy laying a complaint against his friend of more than 40 years and it had taken a toll on his whanau, the party and the other MPs, who had suffered personal abuse.

However, Mr Harawira appeared to have a deliberate strategy to cast the other Maori Party MPs in a bad light.

He depicted the maverick MP as “talking himself up” and “big-noting” by constantly painting himself as the only true voice of Maoridom. “That strategy is aimed at putting the rest of us down.”

And this has been the problem. Hone has always had the freedom to attack National for politices he disagrees with. But when he slags off his own party and colleagues, it is no surprise they have a limit to how much they will put up with.

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26 Responses to “Hone wanted to be a Minister”

  1. slightlyrighty (2,471 comments) says:

    Is Hone really just stoking the fires on the Gravy Train then?

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  2. rouppe (967 comments) says:

    This is true of all evangelists.

    1) They believe that they alone are right, and anyone who disagrees with them must be wrong
    2) The cannot countenance that there is any other valid viewpoint than their own
    3) They attack those that express any contrary view

    Helen Clark, Michael Cullen, Sue Bradford are all examples of the same. Remember the “wreckers and haters” comment? That is where comments of that nature are sourced

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  3. Manolo (13,571 comments) says:

    Could you image the distinction heaped on New Zealand when the polished, cultured and refined Hone Harawira travels overseas as a minister of the Crown?

    Think of the amazement of overseas dignataries at his powerful oratory, his eloquence, his impeccable table manners. The mind boggles.

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  4. Pete George (23,474 comments) says:

    There are a few posters here that fit your evangelical description Rouppe.

    This is hardly surprising about Harawira. He would work fine in a party of one (with a maternal adviser). I can’t see anyone else with new party aspirations wanting to risk giving him their platform.

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  5. RightNow (6,986 comments) says:

    Manolo, he doesn’t need all that, he can dazzle them with his Urkel pants.

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  6. Viking2 (11,409 comments) says:

    Manalo; half the pollies in this world are no different and the rest just appear to be. In fact he would be right athome and may even be better than many.How does that make you feel?

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  7. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    You’d be one of them Pete.

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  8. Viking2 (11,409 comments) says:

    Anyway why can’t we have a decent debate on the tapu subject of the Foreshore Bill that DPF has avoided forever?

    A serious flaw in his character, not speaking about Honkey’s pandering to Chris Carters right wing opposite and his dreadful behavoir towards the citizens of NZ. Using Hone and his issues to hide behind whilst the biggest constitutional rort in our history takes place is appalling. Especially given the debates over various other law changing matters of the previous Govt.

    The more fuss Hone makes the better.

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  9. 3-coil (1,215 comments) says:

    Hone’s biggest problem is that his hate for the “whiteman” is greater than his love for his own Maori people.

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  10. gravedodger (1,552 comments) says:

    Bejesus that Trevett woman is quick isn’t she, Turiana Turia let that slip on Mike Hosking Breakfast on the 12th of February. She must type even slower than moi.

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  11. Monty (976 comments) says:

    Come the election I am not sure as many that John Hatfield will retain his seat. Feral elements will continue to support him, but I think kelvin Davis is a strong candidate and may be in with a strong chance. If the MaoriParty select a good candidate then John Hatforlds support will be split and that is the opportunity for Kelvin to come through the middle.

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  12. mpledger (425 comments) says:

    The hilarious thing would be if Hone took some of the National Maori MPs with him to form a new party. After party hopping once they might see it as a quicker way to power than languishing in the National back benches.

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  13. KevinH (1,215 comments) says:

    Both Mr Flavell and Mr Harawira are mistaken in believing that National would offer more than one ministerial position to the Maori Party. The position of Maori Affairs minister would of been the only position on the table, any other positions would of been as an associate minister only.
    Mr Harawiras desire to be a minister in any cabinet would be conditional upon Mr Harawira demonstrating that he is capable of performing the duties and exercising the responsibilities that come with that position. To date Mr Harawira has publicly proven that he is not a candidate for any ministerial roles.

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  14. Chris2 (762 comments) says:

    Harawira is only in it for what he can get out of it for himself. Remember when he absented himself without permission whilst on Parliamentary business in Europe – he left to go on a personal of Paris. France has one of the most questionable reputations with regards to colonial rule and black oppression but this did not in anyway diminish his enthusiasm to go sightsee in Paris. What a hypocrite he is.

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  15. lastmanstanding (1,281 comments) says:

    So now we know the real reason Hones pissed off. The little Hori missed out on a Cabinet post. Like the other littl, hori Jones both are 2 big for their boots.

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  16. david (2,556 comments) says:

    Occam’s Razor would suggest that there is a relatively simple description fro Hone’s (recent) feral behaviour. Something like Parliamentary Services declining to put “old Tits” (as Leighton Smith referred to her as this morning) on the public payroll as a “Special Cultural Adviser” for example.

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  17. nasska (11,277 comments) says:

    3-coil @ 9.54am stated

    “Hone’s biggest problem is that his hate for the “whiteman” is greater than his love for his own Maori people.”

    & nailed it.

    Hone is driven by hate, to a large extent infused into him by his mad mother. It’s a hate so strong that it derails his personal ambitions & causes him to run off at the mouth like a leaky sewer. It’s the same hate that drives a wedge between him & the rest of the Maori Party.

    He has left change too late to ever be considered an effective Member of Parliament. His legacy to the people he claims to represent will be stirred up emotions bereft of any direction or guidance. No bridge building, no plans for coexistence, no blueprint for the future……just hatred of the Pakeha.

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  18. decanker (184 comments) says:

    rouppe:
    “1) They believe that they alone are right, and anyone who disagrees with them must be wrong
    2) The cannot countenance that there is any other valid viewpoint than their own
    3) They attack those that express any contrary view”

    Stephen Joyce then.

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  19. Inventory2 (10,290 comments) says:

    It’s going to be a long and dirty run-in to the election, if this is anything to go by …

    http://thestandard.org.nz/sickening-2/

    I don’t know which of the several “Eddies” wrote this, but they need to take a look in a mirror …

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  20. grumpyoldhori (2,361 comments) says:

    Monty you Maori, Northern iwi ? because if you are not you know fuck all about that seat.
    Hone will bolt in if he is chucked out of the Maori party, the question being asked by Maori now is this, what the fuck is the Maori party doing for us because they seem really keen on doing what the Nats want for the pakeha.

    Of course I am prejudiced, I hope the Maori party blows apart so the seats go back to Labour

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  21. reversespin (69 comments) says:

    And he hasn’t even turned up for the meeting HE ASKED FOR.

    How many times can the Maori Party turn the other cheek?

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  22. Pete George (23,474 comments) says:

    Time for both cheeks – the bum’s rush.

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  23. lastmanstanding (1,281 comments) says:

    The Hatfields are a sad twisted family of losers and tossers. Full of BS and anal retentives

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  24. KH (695 comments) says:

    Any word yet on Hone’s participation in the family Whare Paia rort and torture scandel?

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  25. Rex Widerstrom (5,349 comments) says:

    Harawira’s suitability for the role aside, if you go into politics and don’t want to be a Minister, then I’d have to ask what you’re doing there, other than trying to add “MP” to your CV, get appointed to some quango (“because you’re from the Waikato” or suchlike) and generally wallow in the trough.

    Because a backbench MP in the present system can do bugger all to change anything; and if you’re not motivated to stand for office because you want to effect change thaen again I ask: why are you bothering?

    It’s possible to enter politics recognising your limitations and not, say, wanting to be PM. But anyone who says he or she is “just happy to be the Member for Tauranga” is either hiding a knife behind their back or is most likely a useless waste of space.

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  26. takutaimoana4sure (4 comments) says:

    First

    “the foreshore and seabed act”

    and now

    “the marine and coastal area bill”

    This is truly a case of “a wolf dressed in sheeps clothing”

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