An own goal

March 5th, 2011 at 11:39 am by David Farrar

I think almost everyone in NZ has been impressed with the Student Volunteer Army in Christchurch. They formed from a good idea and a Facebook page for the 1st and sprung back into life for the second .

Green MP blogged a post in praise of them. I agree with him saying:

The volunteers and organisers I met today represent the nation at its best. Simple and humble community-service and hard-work mixed with cutting edge online tools and organisational software (with a large dose of fun mixed in). They all deserve medals.

But then Gareth had to go for the cheap political jibe, concluding with:

The image of the lazy, selfish, and drunk student or the inept and corrupt student association so favoured of ACT and National Party arguments is well and truly busted.

I commented:

Oh Gareth you were doing so well before you went for the cheap and nasty political jibe. You could have just praised the students for the wonderful job they have done.

Before you embarrass yourself further, you might want to reflect that the student who organised the SVA, and whose idea it all is, is a National Party member. So maybe your little smear against National is rather stupid.

The SVA is not political, and it was only when Gareth tried to politicise the great job they have done, did I point out how ludicrous his position is.

And kudos to UCSA for getting behind the SVA and providing support to it. UCSA is one of the better run student associations, and I’ve blogged this in the past – in fact held up the market research they recently did on what services students want as a model for other campuses.

To make things worse for the Greens, my comment was deleted from the blog after it was made. It later reappeared (along with Whale’s – see his blog here) and the disappearance was put down to technical issues.

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29 Responses to “An own goal”

  1. East Wellington Superhero (1,139 comments) says:

    Not so harsh David. Hughes is just a kid. It’s to be expected from teenage MPs.

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  2. Manolo (14,169 comments) says:

    Hughes, the socialist rainbow ginga, “the-son-Helen-never-had”, looks rather stupid with his inept comments, and even more with his censorious attitude.

    The left loves dissenting opinion, doesn’t it?

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  3. big bruv (14,217 comments) says:

    Gareth Hughes Manolo, not that Ginga git who sits behind Goff.

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  4. Manolo (14,169 comments) says:

    Thank you BB, I read Darren not Gareth. My mistake and I apologise for it.

    Even worse when a Luddite is the offending party!

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  5. big bruv (14,217 comments) says:

    I need to make it clear that I am not defending Gareth Hughes, IMHO he is as big a dick as the Ginga one.

    Both of them are scum List MP’s, both of them are control freaks who want to control our lives and both of them are fantastic examples of why we need to get rid of MMP.

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  6. Peter (1,694 comments) says:

    Strange how these “technical issues” only appear to have affected NACT posters, but not Green posters.

    My WordPress installs – and I have dozens – have never experienced this problem. I’ve certainly never encountered political bias in the software.

    How very, very odd Greens.

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  7. pseudonym123 (4 comments) says:

    Classic. Such a stupid, childish, uninformed and unnecessary comment from Hughes.

    I’ve been involved in helping with the SVA here in chch, being a student at Canterbury. Sam’s a good guy, and the UCSA has done a great job supporting what Sam’s set up too. All totally apolitical.

    And btw, Nat/Act are not my political parties of choice (all political parties have equal measures of shite), just saying before someone tries to say ‘this is all a right wing nat backed rant’!

    If only there was a common sense/civil liberties/social safety net in times of need/minimal govt waste/transparent political party in NZ, sadly vested interests and the status quo will ensure this does not exist anytime soon.

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  8. pseudonym123 (4 comments) says:

    Just looked at the Hughes post and Farrar, yours and the Whales comments are up now

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  9. Monty (899 comments) says:

    Manalo – both “Hughes” are clowns from the left so an easy mistake to make.

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  10. big bruv (14,217 comments) says:

    I just had a look at that thread over at Frogblog, man have the Greens taken a hammering.

    There is the usual bullshit from one or two of the mellons who tried to justify Hughes comments, however, the rest of the comments really stick it right up the pricks.

    Good to see.

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  11. Shunda barunda (2,986 comments) says:

    Just looked at the Hughes post and Farrar, yours and the Whales comments are up now

    I still can’t see them.

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  12. Mark (425 comments) says:

    The SVA and other groups has done a lot of good in CHCH and it shows you that people are always willing to get stuck in and help when required.

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  13. Paulus (2,707 comments) says:

    Well done SVA – whoever you are – you are credit to your country.

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  14. scrubone (3,097 comments) says:

    or the inept and corrupt student association so favoured of ACT and National Party arguments is well and truly busted

    Well, there is the fact that some of us actually observed the corruption first hand.

    I agree the SVA has done fantastic work, but so have other groups such as farmers. But while other farmers in other parts of the country are working hard, students are acting pretty much the same as ever. Except they appear to have a heck of a lot more money these days…

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  15. Kimble (3,955 comments) says:

    Yeah, right on the Greens!

    That National voting student doing good stuff for non-political reasons proves that National is wrong about all students and student associations!

    Maybe Dorothy Hughes should move to Oz where she can spend more time with her friends, the straw man, tinnie man, and cowardly lyin’.

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  16. Inventory2 (9,380 comments) says:

    I have also blogged on this. It’s an epic fail by Gareth Hughes, but what would one expect from a Ronald McDonald impersonator?

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  17. adze (2,130 comments) says:

    “Maybe Dorothy Hughes should move to Oz where she can spend more time with her friends, the straw man, tinnie man, and cowardly lyin’.”

    Nice. :)

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  18. jaba (2,146 comments) says:

    people will vote for the Greens because they think it’s their chance of helping the environment .. if only they checked out the Green MPs. I don’t see a true committed environmentalist amongst them

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  19. side show bob (3,410 comments) says:

    What……….. comments have been blocked from Frog blog, say it isn’t so, it can’t be so. Ah………the melons purveyors of free speech and democracy. I have had comments disappear from their esteemed website, mind you this is probably understandable given my total ignorance of anything green. Perhaps they should have a secret password to post on their propaganda board, so only the anointed get to post party approved dribble.

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  20. adze (2,130 comments) says:

    Just found another blog entry by Kennedy Graham on Frog blog that appears to credit the Student union for the creation of the SVA :

    It is stunningly effective organization by the Canterbury students – their (not long for this world?) student union deserves a medal.

    What a cheek!

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  21. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    just checked hughes out on wikipedia. what a freaky lil bastard. he looks like a green party member.

    Dime firmly believes all green party members are victims. im guessing gareff (also guessing he has a lisp) was bullied at school.

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  22. jaba (2,146 comments) says:

    adz .. is it a cheek or a lie?

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  23. bhudson (4,741 comments) says:

    “their (not long for this world?) student union deserves a medal.”

    If Kennedy Graham said that then he is deeply confused…

    On the one hand he says they are highly capable of mobilising to provide valuable services to those in need, yet on the other hand he says that they will soon be out of existence – something that will only occur under the recent legislative change if said union is incapable of mobilising itself to provide services that are valuable enough for prospective members to want to pay for them.

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  24. Brian Smaller (3,966 comments) says:

    To make things worse for the Greens, my comment was deleted from the blog after it was made. It later reappeared (along with Whale’s – see his blog here) and the disappearance was put down to technical issues.

    Technical issues. Yeeeesss. Interesting isn’t how many times left wing blogs seem to suffer selective loss of comments. They really should talk to their ISPs and read the manual for their particular blogging software. Once is a glitch, twice is a bug, three times is ……

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  25. frog (77 comments) says:

    DPF, did you comment via facebook or directly to frogblog? Let me know at frogblog@greens.org.nz.

    I discovered several comments in the frogblog moderation queue around 10pm that I could see no obvious reason had been put into moderation by the spam filter. But nothing similar has happened since, so I am a bit mystified about that.

    Whale’s comment via Facebook is there now, but not one from you. The “comment via Facebook” option is being trialled at the moment at frogblog. Problem for me is that it is (note, Brian Smaller and others) reliant on a third party service (ie Facebook) that frogblog has no control over.

    If it continues to behave erratically and that can’t be resolved it might have to be scrapped, but that would be a pity because it seems like a good idea.

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  26. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    because it seems like a good idea.

    That’s your excuse for everything when it goes wrong!

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  27. pq (728 comments) says:

    Earthquake, students, Greens and politic:

    It was the Christians who moved into my place, to help shift 22 metres of silt, they asked for nothing, most of them were women from Nelson, and some from Auckland.
    I watched them, and they shoveled and meant business.
    When I fed them chicken they thanked me as though it were me who was the helper.

    I had also two local men , hired to help, but the Christians beat the hell out of them for energy. The next day my hired helpers failed to turn up,
    they had cashed their WINZ cheques, and were not interested in work.

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  28. Inventory2 (9,380 comments) says:

    @ Frog; I left a comment on the Facebook section before commenting on the blog itself. That comment has appeared, disappeared, appeared and disappeared with regularity. It’s gone again right now. I’ll take your word for it that it’s a techhie glitch, but you can understand why people are sceptical, I’m sure :-)

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  29. Clint Heine (1,495 comments) says:

    The Stranded did the same thing the other day. Said that the SVA was all UCSA and not independent students, and that VSM will destroy students getting together to help the people of Chch.

    I believe they wrote it while bodies were still being pulled out of buildings…..

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